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 MsMicki
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Again, you choose the action, you just chose the consequence. I remember some time ago you posted that your boyfriend took his granddaughter on a trip. At the time I thought to myself, that sounds odd. Who leaves their girlfriend at home and takes their granddaughter on a trip. One of those things that make you go hmmm. I hope you verified. Trust all you like but don't completely blame them when they lie to you. You are a easy target and you taught them that.


You are the 2nd person to comment on this...and I find it hilarious!!
Why would anyone consider it odd for a grandfather to take his 9 year old granddaughter on a vacation???
and why would I, as his girlfriend, infringe on their time together?
We go and do plenty of things together....and we do plenty of things apart.
I went on vacation with my girlfriend....he goes fishing with his brothers....damn, that's what helps keep a relationship healthy....having your "me" time along with your "we" time.
I don't need to verify anything....the both of them talked about it for weeks!! (and I helped reserve their room at an Amusement Park!!
I also trust him....because he has never given me a reason not to.

I couldn't even imagine living my life having to "verify" everything he does...
and me being an easy target is about as far from the truth you could get!!
and once again....the condescending blame for something my spouse did....is ridiculous.
I "taught" them....good gawd... where does this garbage even come from???

it's no wonder some men think so badly of women.....
 SomewhereInTheStratosfere
Joined: 4/1/2018
Msg: 177
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Posted: 7/2/2018 2:46:55 PM
You are the 2nd person to comment on this...and I find it hilarious!!
Why would anyone consider it odd for a grandfather to take his 9 year old granddaughter on a vacation???
and why would I, as his girlfriend, infringe on their time together?
We go and do plenty of things together....and we do plenty of things apart.
I went on vacation with my girlfriend....he goes fishing with his brothers....damn, that's what helps keep a relationship healthy....having your "me" time along with your "we" time.
I don't need to verify anything....the both of them talked about it for weeks!! (and I helped reserve their room at an Amusement Park!!
I also trust him....because he has never given me a reason not to.

I couldn't even imagine living my life having to "verify" everything he does...
and me being an easy target is about as far from the truth you could get!!
and once again....the condescending blame for something my spouse did....is ridiculous.
I "taught" them....good gawd... where does this garbage even come from???

Please take this in the spirit it's meant. You lived with a man for how many years and found out he was a child molester? You are either way to trusting or dense to not figure something was amiss. That is on you and no one else. You chose to trust him completely. You chose the consequence.


it's no wonder some men think so badly of women....


I know this snarky remark is based in the fact that you are getting angry with me. You are not ready to learn the lesson. I will say though, I think most men would prefer a woman who will own up to her own poor choices and decisions and learn from them and not keep repeating the same old shit that didn't work the first time around. I do wish you the best though.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 178
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:08:25 PM

just because he decided sex with a 15 year old was what he suddenly needed???



he was the one who hid his secret desires


seems like a pattern to me

do u meet them on pedophile dot com ???



a grandfather to take his 9 year old granddaughter on a vacation???
and why would I, as his girlfriend, infringe on their time together?


I hope they were not alone 2gether, this is sick.

I feel nauseous.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 179
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:10:49 PM
"A person can be a wonderful spouse....attentive, compassionate, loving, sexual...and still get cheated on or divorced. I personally know a few people that admit that their spouses were wonderful....yet they cheated because of the excitement of doing so...."

>>>some people marry with a great image in their life and a devotion to it...and when time shows them it won't come true, they decide to rationalize cheating. I had a married woman hit on me when her husband cut her off in the bedroom after their second child. she initially struck back at him by getting a credit card at the local jeweler in his name. Me, that sign of disrespect would have been a sign more disrespect was coming, but maybe he was old fashioned and thought his job was to make the money and her job was to spend it. Some people don't notice someone is using them, while they're too busy getting what they want from that person. I would wonder about someone I knew being excited by cheating. They weren't overwhelmed with respect for their partner? I can see being excited, but they still had to make the fantasy become reality.

I've had acquaintances surprise me when they trusted me enough, felt comfortable enough to reveal their real thoughts. But they were acquaintances, not close associates. Still, there are exceptions to all rules. In the old days, an old man and a young girl going somewhere for a long period of time wasn't unusual, b/c we believed in "stranger danger". Now we hear stories of molestation inside an extended family. its not automatically bad for two people to be together, but there's also a reason why professional organizations require a third person to be in the room. its just legal CYA.
 julystorm22
Joined: 6/15/2018
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:18:46 PM
Stratosphere is the type of person who always blames the victim and thinks everyone should always look at someone new with a great deal of suspicion. To her all men are likely pedophiles, cheaters, scammers, etc. She's a manhating woman with trust issues.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a guy taking his granddaughter on a trip. Nothing at all.

Regarding cheating by men, please visit the following article:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/love-and-sex-in-the-digital-age/201704/13-reasons-why-men-cheat

As the article I linked to explains, not all men unhappy in their marriage cheat, only some do. Most men find other ways to deal with it. Here are the 13 reasons men cheat:

1) Immaturity: If he does not have a lot of experience in committed relationships, or if he doesn’t fully understand that his actions will inevitably have consequences like hurting his partner, he may think it is fine to have sexual adventures. He might think of his commitment to monogamy as a jacket that he can put on or take off as he pleases, depending on the circumstances.

2) Co-occurring Issues: He may have an ongoing problem with alcohol and/or drugs that affects his decision-making, resulting in regrettable sexual decisions. Or maybe he has a problem like sexual addiction, meaning he compulsively engages in sexual fantasies and behaviors as a way to numb out and avoid life.

3) Insecurity: He may feel as if he is too old (or too young), not handsome enough, not rich enough, not smart enough, etc. (An astonishing amount of male cheating is linked, at least in part, to a mid-life crisis.) To bolster his flagging ego, he seeks validation from women other than his mate, using this sextracurricular spark of interest to feel wanted, desired, and worthy.

4) It’s Over, Version 1: He may want to end his current relationship. However, instead of just telling his partner that he’s unhappy and wants to break things off, he cheats — and then forces her to do the dirty work.

5) It’s Over, Version 2: He may want to end his current relationship, but not until he’s got another one lined up. So he sets the stage for his next relationship while still in the first one.

6) Lack of Male Social Support: He may have undervalued his need for supportive friendships with other men, expecting his social and emotional needs to be met entirely by his significant other. And when she inevitably fails in that duty, he seeks fulfillment elsewhere.

7) Confusion about Limerence versus Commitment: He might misunderstand the difference between romantic intensity and long-term love, mistaking the neurochemical rush of early romance, technically referred to as limerence, for love, and failing to understand that in healthy, long-term relationships limerence is replaced over time with less intense, but ultimately more meaningful forms of connection.

8) Childhood Abuse: He may be reenacting or latently responding to unresolved childhood trauma – neglect, emotional abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse, etc. In such cases, his childhood wounds have created attachment/intimacy issues that leave him unable or unwilling to fully commit to one person. He might also be using the excitement and distraction of sexual infidelity as a way to self-soothe the pain of these old, unhealed wounds.

9) Selfishness: It’s possible that his primary consideration is for himself and himself alone. He can therefore lie and keep secrets without remorse or regret, as long as it gets him what he wants. It’s possible he never intended to be monogamous. Rather than seeing his vow of monogamy as a sacrifice made to and for his relationship, he views it as something to be avoided and worked around.

10) Terminal Uniqueness: He may feel like he is different and deserves something special that other men might not. The usual rules just don’t apply to him, so he is free to reward himself outside his primary relationship whenever he wants.

11) Unfettered Impulse: He may never have even thought about cheating until an opportunity suddenly presented itself. Then, without even thinking about what infidelity might do his relationship, he went for it.

12) Unrealistic Expectations: He may feel that his partner should meet his every whim and desire, sexual and otherwise, 24/7, regardless of how she feels at any particular moment. He fails to understand that she has a life of her own, with thoughts and feelings and needs that don’t always involve him. When his expectations are not met, he seeks external fulfillment.

13) Anger/Revenge: He may cheat to get revenge. He is angry with his mate, and wants to hurt her. In such cases, the infidelity is meant to be seen and known. The man does not bother to lie or keep secrets about his cheating, because he wants his partner to know about it.
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:21:05 PM

If you choose to trust someone, you choose the consequences of that action.

I disagree that you're responsible for whatever they do to you because you trusted them -- as in you Share any of that blame. Unless Baiting them into screwing you over (like a no-no for an undercover cop to do so; ymmv) -- you don't share any of the Responsibility/Blame of their wrong-doing.

Instead, you MAY have some blame on your shoulders about Something Separately that's related to the incident, but a different Side subject to consider. How much empathy/sympathy we may feel for someone Is Not the litmus test for how much to blame them for a situation. Also, one fallacy is that we "split" the blame of someone doing something bad to another -- to whatever degree, which is appropriate much of the time of course -- but falsely doing that when it is 100% one-sided. Why? Because there's a Separate blame to be had.

No, the guy who slips his fingers up a gal's mini-skirt at a bar is not 90% to blame because she was wearing a high mini-skirt at the bar. It doesn't take any level of blame away from him Only because of that. He's 100% to blame. However, you could step Sally aside and give her something Separate that she's Responsible for that she needs to take into consideration: "Him doing that wasn't your fault. He's 100% at fault just as much as if you were dressed as a librarian and he seemed sweet as a jaybird. You have to learn that at this bar, and those two other ones, even though a lot of other gals wear mini-skirts, it's best to wear jeans instead, and not to be 'polite' and roll with conversation by some Cha-Chi coming up to you like this one did."
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 182
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:26:17 PM

Now we hear stories of molestation inside an extended family. its not automatically bad for two people to be together, but there's also a reason why professional organizations require a third person to be in the room. its just legal CYA.


iF SOMEONE KNOWINGLY BOOKS A ROOM FOR AN OLD MAN & A MINOR CHILD (ESP. A GIRL) THEY ARE AN ACCOMPLICE & AIDED & ABETTED .
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:33:12 PM

I hope they were not alone 2gether, this is sick.

I feel nauseous


WTF is wrong with you people???

Since when is it sick for a grandfather to spend special time with his granddaughter??
He took her to amusement parks and to the zoo....not to watch porn for fuk's sake....


seems like a pattern to me

do u meet them on pedophile dot com ??


same man.....put down the Taco Bell and pay attention....
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:42:56 PM

iF SOMEONE KNOWINGLY BOOKS A ROOM FOR AN OLD MAN & A MINOR CHILD (ESP. A GIRL) THEY ARE AN ACCOMPLICE & AIDED & ABETTED .


Yep...I am an accomplice to a great time had by a grandfather and his granddaughter.
The granddaughter lives with him part time....should we call the law now???
Or should we maybe applaud a man that gives up his retirement to help raise his granddaughter who was left motherless and who's father lives 800 miles away.... and decided his granddaughter deserved a reward for getting all straight A's....even after a rough year of losing her mother.

and I stand by my comment....no wonder men think badly of women with examples such as yourself....
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 185
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:43:03 PM
I don't know where the Taco Bell comment came from, but the rest should be reported to the authorities--you booked a room for an elderly man to take a 9 year old girl ALONE?

A normal man would have included a mother figure, rather than skulk off alone w/ a little girl--yes, to an amusement park, the price of admission?

Where were her parents?

I've got half a mind to contact your local police dept. & ask them to look into this. You already admitted right here on the internet your previous partner was a pedo, & NOW THIS?

And you booked the room?
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 186
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:48:52 PM
Funny how you threw in this other info AFTER ppl questioned you.

He still should have brought along a mother figure, such as yourself.

Something is not right about this story & don't try to deflect by saying Taco Bell (is that a slur on Mexicans?) & women like me...yes, women like me that wouldn't allow a 9 year old girl alone in a bedroom w/ an elderly man.
 SomewhereInTheStratosfere
Joined: 4/1/2018
Msg: 187
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:59:30 PM

Stratosphere is the type of person who always blames the victim and thinks everyone should always look at someone new with a great deal of suspicion. To her all men are likely pedophiles, cheaters, scammers, etc. She's a manhating woman with trust issues.


Thats interesting, you don't know me or a dang thing about me. I like most men, especially Mach Mustang, because he is smart and sexy. One thing is for sure, I would never consider myself a "victim". If you see yourself as one, thats your low self esteem and willingness to put up with crap talking. I own up to my own poor choices and decisions, and I have made a ton of them. You are angry with me because I call you out over what I consider your bad parenting choices. Others have seen it too, It's not me just being mean to poor little victim JULY. I don't give a rats butt about you. Quite honestly, I don't think you are all there. I worry about your poor choices affecting your kids. Thats what normal mothers do. If you don't want people commenting on it, quit doing your part in it by putting it out there.

I certainly do not give my trust blindly, there are two people in this world I trust with my life and they are MY children. Everyone else is verified x2. Yes, they do come before any man or my sex life and they always will. There is no way in hell any man ever got into my house alone with my children. if that makes me manhating with trust issues, so be it. MY kids weren't molested because I cared enough Not to put them into the position of that EVER happening. My dating life took a back seat for years, because that was my choice not to have different men in their life. All men are not pedophiles or cheaters or scammers, I'd prefer not taking a chance with my childrens lives to figure out who is who. Ask Micki how well all that trust worked out for her.

Quite honestly, I wouldn't trust you to babysit my cat. Such a shame, when there are people out there who would kill for a child and you consider yours BAGGAGE!
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 188
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:08:52 PM
I showed this thread to hubs

He has 5 grandkids, 4 are girls.

One is 9 years old too.

His response to the grandpa in the motel/hotel w/ grand daughter

"That is sick...I couldn't image anyone doing that..."

Anything any of the grandkids do w/ him, I am there as well.

Mustang mentioned organizations have a 3rd person- well there is a reason.

And BTW, I cook & had filet mignon for dinner, not "Taco Bell" WTF is THAT about?
 SomewhereInTheStratosfere
Joined: 4/1/2018
Msg: 189
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:16:51 PM

and I stand by my comment....no wonder men think badly of women with examples such as yourself....

no wonder so many children are molested when some women are so naive and trusting. History repeating itself. If this happened on my watch once, it certainly wouldn't happen a second time.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 190
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:19:27 PM
And why did YOU book the room, not him?

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND VERY GOOD

Please tell me there were 2 beds & each one was slept in.

"no wonder so many children are molested when some women are so naive and trusting. History repeating itself. If this happened on my watch once, it certainly wouldn't happen a second time."

I CONCUR.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:21:52 PM

Funny how you threw in this other info AFTER ppl questioned you.

no, it's not funny at all that I should even have to give his and hers personal details....
just because a couple of snarkies want to make an issue of a grandfather taking his granddaughter on vacation

and you do realize that hotel suites have more than 1 bedroom to them....don't you??
Did I ever say they slept in the same bed? or even the same room? No....your sick minds came up with that all on their own.

It is a very sad time if a grandfather cannot be alone with his own granddaughter without the likes of you turning into something so dark...says a lot more about you two than it does about him.

and no Taco Bell was not a slur on Mexicans....
you can replace it with Big Mac, Doughnut, Pizza....what ever you choose to shove into that mouth of yours....
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 192
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:26:23 PM
"you can replace it with Big Mac, Doughnut, Pizza....what ever you choose to shove into that mouth of yours...."

uh hum

I see the deflection- it only makes you look bad...

You put this info out there yourself, willingly, living in a small town w/ your pic displayed...& you question my mouth?

Using the imaginary FB Block button^^^
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:36:19 PM
Yes...I did.....because there is nothing to hide....
nothing criminal....absolutely nothing wrong with a grandfather taking his granddaughter on vacation.

This so reminds me of my father who went to see a Disney movie by himself in the middle of the day...and some lady reported him for being there because he "just must be" a pedophile....
Extremely sad, because now he won't go to a movie by himself...all because some woman couldn't imagine a 70 year old man enjoying seeing some silly animated movie.
The funny part is....he watches these types of movies because he is a religious man that won't go to see R Rated movies because of the language and sex...
 ohenryx
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:41:59 PM
There are some very sick people in this thread.

Very, very sick. Very, very, very suspicious, untrusting, and with filthy minds.

I have two granddaughters, the oldest now in college. I spent time with them when they were growing up. No one ever accused me of this kind of sh__. If they had, I probably would have killed them and wound up in the penitentiary.

I repeat, there are some sick people in this thread.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 195
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:43:00 PM
Third time's a charm...where is FREUD when you need him?








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 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 196
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Posted: 7/2/2018 4:45:23 PM
Yes Henry, I read your post about peeking at a young woman's white panties in a pic on Tinder. (Young women)

Funny how you felt the need to come in & post on this.







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 SomewhereInTheStratosfere
Joined: 4/1/2018
Msg: 197
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Posted: 7/2/2018 5:01:48 PM

This so reminds me of my father who went to see a Disney movie by himself in the middle of the day...and some lady reported him for being there because he "just must be" a pedophile

There are caring people in the world, you know, who aren't so naive, that just don't trust every darn person that comes floating by in the muck. It's sad he wont go see a movie because of it but at least people are watching. There is a man going around in the city I work in trying to pick up youngsters on their way to school. This van matches our work vans to a TEE. Myself and my guys are pulled over constantly. A lot of my guys are x cons or on parole which makes it even more tricky. They don't mind though, at least the cops are doing their jobs. If it stops a kid from being abducted whats a little inconvenience.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 198
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Posted: 7/2/2018 5:25:48 PM
Funny how some ppl in here made it all about THEM rather than think of an innocent child (can be a little boy too)

I'd prefer society to be MORE vigilant rather than LESS vigilant, even at my own expense.

Any person on here who chronically posts about their "peccadillos" plus posts their personal info along w/ pictures ought to be careful, in addition to posting anything that can be construed as a violent act or threat.

After years of observing in here, I've got your number (to a few characters on here)
You are as transparent as my kitchen window.

And others see it too, they just don't call you out on it.

We have enablers, we have wanna bees, fantasists, liars, etc.

Carry on.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
Msg: 199
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Posted: 7/2/2018 5:34:27 PM
"There are caring people in the world, you know, who aren't so naive, that just don't trust every darn person that comes floating by in the muck. It's sad he wont go see a movie because of it but at least people are watching. There is a man going around in the city I work in trying to pick up youngsters on their way to school. This van matches our work vans to a TEE. Myself and my guys are pulled over constantly. A lot of my guys are x cons or on parole which makes it even more tricky. They don't mind though, at least the cops are doing their jobs. If it stops a kid from being abducted whats a little inconvenience.

And to add: it is inappropriate for a man to go see a Disney movie ALONE w/ kids around.
He could have gotten a person to come along. It was correct for him to be reported.

Also smart for a man w/ a young child to have a FEMALE friend of good character around as well.

There is naive, & there's just plain STUPID.

Like I said, post your personal stuff all over the net & then expect ppl not to process it?

Now THAT is beyond stupid!
 ohenryx
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Posted: 7/2/2018 6:27:18 PM

Blonde_Idiot
Yes Henry, I read your post about peeking at a young woman's white panties in a pic on Tinder. (Young women)


You are either ignorant (not having a clue what you’re talking about), or an idiot.

I said “on Tinder”, and I know you caught that, because you just repeated it.

Tinder only shows me pictures of women 50+. So where did you get this “young women” horseshit?

Like I said, ignorant or an idiot. I strongly suspect both.
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