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 LBJfan600
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definitely for men, women have FAR more options
 dark_n_juju
Joined: 8/30/2017
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Posted: 8/28/2018 9:00:12 AM

definitely for men, women have FAR more options


Men have the exact same amount of options as women but typically every man thinks he is a 10 and every woman realizes she is NOT even close to a 10.
 Clytemnestra
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Posted: 8/28/2018 9:04:51 AM
msg#152:
Men have the exact same amount of options as women but typically every man thinks he is a 10 and every woman realizes she is NOT even close to a 10.


In their heart of hearts, I suspect everyone thinks they are 'a ten'.
Even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
(Smile)
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 8/28/2018 1:10:07 PM

Men have the exact same amount of options as women but typically every man thinks he is a 10 and every woman realizes she is NOT even close to a 10.


Way to burst my bubble.
 BombayBeach
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Posted: 8/28/2018 2:58:48 PM
I am a 51 year old woman and have long given up trying to find a man. They all gravitate towards younger women.

These days, gardening and masturbation are my hobbies.
 cooldog65
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Posted: 8/28/2018 6:30:28 PM

These days, gardening and masturbation are my hobbies.


We have something in common and it isn't gardening...
 ohenryx
Joined: 3/12/2010
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:00:54 PM

BombayBeach
I am a 51 year old woman and have long given up trying to find a man. They all gravitate towards younger women.

These days, gardening and masturbation are my hobbies.

Some advice for you, worth exactly what you just paid for it here on a free site.

Put up a profile on an adult oriented site. Yeah, I’m talking about one of “those sites”. If you’re not as ugly as a mud fence, you will be overwhelmed by the responses that you will get. Yes, you’re right, they will only want sex. But … they will spend some time with you, before and after. And if the sex is good, they will come back for more. And the first thing you know, you just might have a relationship. At the very least, it beats masturbation (pun intended).
 risingAlpha
Joined: 7/15/2018
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:49:41 PM
Men do not have the same options.... Here is a fun test... Create a male profile and create a female profile.. Fill them both out completely the same and provide pictures you grabbed from the net.. see which one is a barren wasteland in a month, and which one has a full inbox 10 minutes after creating it.
 risingAlpha
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:50:18 PM
Women and Men have different thinking.


Men want sex
Women want security..

Soooo.. this results in women selecting men based on their ability to provide for them. which is selfish.
and Men selecting women based on how they look. which is masochistic.

Men who are able to provide more are usually older men.. weather its a middle school girl going out with the High school junior jock, The High School freshmen girl who somehow is going to prom 4 years earlier than her friends, The College girl who is getting her tuition paid by the executive assistant downtown. The businesswoman who is dating a doctor 10 years her senior, or the lawyer who is in bed with the DA... This is an ongoing never ending pattern.

The best advice I can give to men is all women.. to some degree ALL WOMEN.. are gold diggers.
They will not date you if you have no car, no home, no clothes on your back and definitely not if you are not able to shower them with conveniences and monetary delites like dinners, parties, gifts, blah blah blah, And they will not marry you if you are unable to satisfy them with a home and possibly have the financial ends to secure with if you do decide to have children or not.

Do they care if you look good, and smell good, and are nice, and can hold conversation and funny.... sure. yeah.. But all of that is secondary. Why do you think sooooo many women date ***holes? because their assholishness is outbalanced by some other quality... think about what that might be...
 dark_n_juju
Joined: 8/30/2017
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:51:47 PM

At the very least, it beats masturbation (pun intended).


SAYS WHO? The good thing about masturbation? It doesn't show up on my doorstep everything it gets hard it is only there WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT. I don't have to fake an orgasm to make it stop humping me. I don't have to answer a million text messages to it every day. It doesn't ask me who I was out with last night. IN MY IMAGINATION it has an amazing body. It doesn't force me to spend time with its loser friends, mother or watching sports. It doesn't complain about my cats. OH masturbation is not near as bad as YOU suggest it is.
 cooldog65
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Posted: 8/28/2018 9:13:22 PM

OH masturbation is not near as bad as YOU suggest it is.


Low cost, no STDs, no drama, and I don't have to give up porn...


Wonder when this option will be available?

https://youtu.be/jae38H1_j-E
 Manofsubstance1970
Joined: 7/8/2017
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Posted: 8/28/2018 10:09:33 PM
"Masturbation can be good,, because a man don’t have to put up with a woman complaining,, creating drama,, acting entitled all the time,, expecting a man to cater for her every whim in the hope, that he might get sex once every six months,, but only if he conforms to her manipulation of him and never stands upto her,, when she continuously tries to control his life and make it a misery"

"women get bad sex from men,, because they are uneducated on the way they best feel satisfaction, like to be touched, kissed etc and don’t have the communication skills to instruct the man how best to satisfy their sexual needs….do women only ever think,, that a man wants a bit of in and out action? This is not the case for many men and four play is a very important part in stimulating mind and body,, but also preparing the woman for the in and out action"

"Online dating is a numbers game and women have many more options,, than men,, so with all those options comes the creation of princess syndrome and the most unrealistic expectations,, because they end up seeking perfection in a man and turn down hundreds of suitable men,, because they live on their own little cloud of self entitlement"
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/28/2018 11:40:16 PM
WTF? Henry, that's really disgusting for you to suggest she joins sex sites. That's a lie too, that a guy from there would want to "spend time" with someone they're going to think is a whore. He certainly won't have respect for her, maybe an std, but no respect. So your suggestion is that she becomes a sperm bucket. Why don't you suggest she stands on a street corner soliciting men?
 patchmanjoker
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Posted: 8/29/2018 12:03:16 AM
Dating can be hard for both parties but guys will have the hardest time getting dates. Like I have mentioned before, online dating sites have done research that states women only find 20% of men who use OLD attractive and men see 50% of the women as being attractive. The idea that most men see themselves as being more attractive than they are is also absurd. Some guys might think that way but in today's society it is the women that are reassured that they are pretty no matter the looks or body type. You can walk by a store that carries clothing for bigger women and see pictures in the window of obese women in underwear for all to see. Can you tell me the last time you walked by a men's clothing store and saw a picture of an overweight guy with a beer gut and plumbers crack standing in his tight whites in the front window? I thought so... The difference is women are encouraged to talk about their insecurities while men are not. I am not MGTOW but it is tiring hearing the whole "well, most guys are losers so that is why women have it so bad", and I ask you, If most guys are losers, then are they not at a disadvantage? The idea that people like JUJU are trying to portray is that they are so far above most of these silly guys, but they also will never admit a guy is at a disadvantage because they see that as letting guys off the hook. So basically it is a lose, lose situation. A guy has to be confident but if he is, he is delusional.
 dark_n_juju
Joined: 8/30/2017
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Posted: 8/29/2018 7:29:37 AM

If most guys are losers, then are they not at a disadvantage?


Being a loser is a CHOICE. Being gay or transgender is NOT a choice, but being a loser is a choice. Being shallow is a choice. Choosing a woman based on her looks while asking her to disregard yours IS A CHOICE. Expecting women to be grateful for SEXUAL attention from squirrelly little guys who are confused about mutual attraction is a choice.
And you are hard pressed to walk in any place and see a man in his tighty whities. Clothing stores don't put men in clothes because it is all about NOT making you guys feel insecure. AND the OBESE women you claim are not really obese they are just size 13 or 14 that isn't very big.
The men who use online dating are very much about what the woman looks like. They are guys who don't have the courage to approach these women IN the real world. ONLINE DATING gives them an opportunity they WOULD never have in the real world. Approach a woman they perceive at pretty. It is not about truly getting to know this woman but using her.
THE thing that confuses and angers the average OLD guy is that HE is getting the EXACT same reaction online as he did in the real world. And why of course that goes against all his fantasies. Rather than use it as an opportunity to meet and truly get to know women it is used as a chance to SHOP up. Shop is the word. It is about getting things that you want. Not about people.
 patchmanjoker
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Posted: 8/29/2018 8:54:39 AM
^^^^^^^^^
The more you type the more you prove my point. So, women don't look at attractiveness? Studies have shown that women get way more responses with OLD than men. Of course attractive women will get more messages but attractive men get way more responses than average men. The bottom line is that both parties can be guilty of shopping for ideal and unrealistic dates. But, I got to go back to the studies that proved that women online judge male attractiveness more harshly than males judge women. And about the 13-14 size thing, I have seen posters of women way larger than that in their underwear, just saying. There are countless adds and movements to reassure women about their beauty, and if women fear being judged, it is often other women that they fear the most..... So enough with the childish "girls rule, boys drool" bull sh*t. I know, guys choose to be losers but women are always realistic and honest.... Again... Just a princess complex.
Is dating harder for men or women?
Posted: 8/29/2018 8:58:20 AM

SAYS WHO? The good thing about masturbation? It doesn't show up on my doorstep everything it gets hard it is only there WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT. I don't have to fake an orgasm to make it stop humping me. I don't have to answer a million text messages to it every day. It doesn't ask me who I was out with last night. IN MY IMAGINATION it has an amazing body. It doesn't force me to spend time with its loser friends, mother or watching sports. It doesn't complain about my cats. OH masturbation is not near as bad as YOU suggest it is.

LOL I think I love you! Will You marry me? July, If you're reading this, this is why it's good to be alone.
 patchmanjoker
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Posted: 8/29/2018 9:06:22 AM
Back to the body positive ad thing.. Do a google image search for "women body positive ad campaign", then do one for "men body positive ad campaign", and tell me what you see... a picture speaks a thousand words.
 patchmanjoker
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Posted: 8/29/2018 10:04:40 AM
People should also watch this video about dating preferences hosted by a very smart women who has some good observations about unrealistic dating expectations. This video is a reaction to another video. - https://youtu.be/4lp-ONTyMkM
 2ufo
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Posted: 8/29/2018 10:11:36 AM
I did.
What difference am I looking for?
 julystorm22
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Posted: 8/29/2018 10:17:05 AM
I think that there are a lot of guys I don't message back because from their picture I am not sure there will be any attraction on my part. However, I think that probably a third of these guys I don't message back for this reason just have a really bad photo and if I did meet them in person first I would give them more of a chance. I wish you could post video clips to pof to at least give you an idea. But my fear is that I'm going to go meet a guy, get his hopes up and it'll turn out I am definitely not attracted. The first couple months on pof I met more guys in person because I figured maybe I'd feel some sort of chemistry even if the pic wasn't great but most of the time I was disappointed and I felt so guilty sitting through a meet-n-greet thinking I really don't like them.

I really wish there was a speed-dating event in which all the people on pof in the area came and you had two minutes with each guy to ascertain if there's a possibility and you could mark your thoughts on a sheet of paper and then go pack on pof to contact those you saw potential with.
 dark_n_juju
Joined: 8/30/2017
Msg: 172
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Posted: 8/29/2018 10:48:37 AM
Patchmanjoker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2alnVIj1Jf8&t=59s
Fat woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUy3_kBme4M&t=161s
Fat Guy
NOTICE the difference? Really YOU cant see what the difference between guys and girls?
I noticed. And it isnt fake like the one you posted.

4. RACE AND CLASS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS TO DATERS.
In 2014, BuzzFeed ran an experiment in which one of their writers built a mock-Tinder with stock photos. She found that when someone viewed the person in the Tinder profile picture as “working-class,” they would swipe “yes” 13 percent of the time. But, when they considered the person “middle-class,” they swiped “yes” between 36 and 39 percent of the time. The study also found that people preferred a potential partner to be of mixed or ambiguous race instead of a blatantly different race than their own. co-founder, Christian Rudder, confirmed her findings. He noted, “When you’re looking at how two American strangers behave in a romantic context, race is the ultimate confounding factor.”

A 2014 study published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences does note that this phenomenon isn’t as bad as it might seem. According to the researchers at the University of California San Diego, the majority of heterosexuals on did contact people of another race or at least answer messages from them.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/59509/11-results-studies-about-online-dating

3. MEN SPEND 50 PERCENT LESS TIME READING ONLINE DATING PROFILES THAN WOMEN.
In 2012, the research company AnswerLab conducted a study in which they used a Tobii X1 Light Eye Tracker, which recorded the eye movements of subjects who were reading online dating profiles from Match.com and eHarmony.com. By doing this, they were able determine where men and women were actually looking while reading online dating profiles. As it happens, men spend 65 percent more time looking at the pictures in the profile than women do.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/59509/11-results-studies-about-online-dating

Their chart made it painfully clear: When a woman on the site sends a message, her likelihood of getting a response is much higher if she’s any race but black. Men answered messages from other women—Asian, white, Hispanic, everyone—with average reply rates between 42 and 50 percent. Black women like me? Only 34 percent. Even among black men we came in last.

https://www.glamour.com/story/how-one-woman-confronted-the-issue-of-racial-bias-online-dating-sites

Meanwhile, black women were considered the “least desirable” among all races of men. “Asian, Latin and white men tend to give black women 1 to 1.5 stars less, while black men’s ratings of black women are more consistent with their ratings of all races of women,” he wrote. The most highly-rated groups of women by men were those of Asian and Latin descent, with white women not far behind.

https://www.inverse.com/article/36379-tinder-black-women-asian-men-racism

The researchers determined that while men’s sexual desirability peaks at age 50, women’s starts high at 18 and falls from there.

The study also drew some less than encouraging conclusions regarding what is considered desirable - men’s desirability appears to increase with age up to the age of 50, however women’s desirability scores tended to decline from the age of 18.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-age.html



THIS is the real issue!!! People love to tell themselves lies. The numbers dont LIE.
The study also provides a potential answer for why so many messages go unanswered on dating apps - most singletons choose to message the people they’ve matched with who are more attractive than themselves or “out of their league”, and those people often won’t feel inclined to reply to someone lower down the hierarchy.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/online-dating-partners-more-desirable-out-of-league-study-a8484476.html



Now according to the studies, I have posted I will never be successful at online dating. Am I aware that if I were white and looked exactly like I do I would have an inbox OVERflowing with some of the best looking most successful men on any site??? Yes But I am not white so there goes that. MIDDLE AGE WHITE MEN are the most desirable group online dating except for teenage Asian women. Yet they spend the most time crying about not getting enough attention. WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE?
 cooldog65
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Posted: 8/29/2018 11:53:16 AM

Meanwhile, black women were considered the “least desirable” among all races of men.


Not to this man...
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/29/2018 12:35:14 PM
What happened to juju?😦 I hope she self-deleted and will be back.
 patchmanjoker
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Posted: 8/29/2018 1:03:59 PM
juju is a princess mentality women...she even had that in her profile.

She also put up misleading info. In the one study she sited the article even stated that other studies showed that racial bias was not that much of a factor with OLD. She posted two videos of an attractive man and woman who put up dating profiles then showed up to the dates in fat suits. What does that prove? A better one would be if the profiles were of fat people from the start. She is an attractive women and she would have you to believe that she gets no messages or responses...common people, you don't really believe in that sh*t. If you don't think men have a hard time getting responses, just look at the profile review section on this site. And for the record, men still do the majority of initial contacts with OLD. If women had it so bad the contact ratio would be 50/50. Like a poster said... create two profiles with pictures of two average looking middle age people, one woman and one man, and see which one gets the most traffic.
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