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 2plunk
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Doremi_Fasolatido

I like your assessment--and agree..

I'm still not clear on the stats--age groups--female/children, young men--etc..
Corny maybe-- but--woman with children to the front of the line..


I say, instead of dispatching our military to the border we should have sent screeners, interpreters and folks who could weed out the genuine REFUGE seekers from those who are....not..... It's called proper vetting and it actually takes some thought and compassion. At least, I think this would help.


So what do you do with the next caravan--and the growing ones after.. ?

I know it sounds crazy--and law forbids it--but--
I would like to see an armed escort accompanying the migrants back to where they came from--hold an international court on sovereign ground -- and enforce some patriarchal mentoring on those gangs of violence..
On one wants to leave home--turn them around, take them home and give them shelter on sovereign ground..
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 11/17/2018 7:08:49 PM
We've always vetted [ assessed folks for American citizenship] since our country has been in existence. We've always screened people and have always had agencies that did this.


But,, These folks aren't just migrants.

They're REFUGEES seeking ASYLUM. This is something our country offers to oppressed people. Our country has the means to screen out those in need of REFUGE/ ASYLUM.... From those who do not. Or, have other intentions. Hence, the vetting process I mentioned in my previous post.

And, when the next caravan arrives apply this process to those folks too. If our military must be there I'd hope it would be to help these people with everyday life. I'd sooner see our military used for this than to be used to escort these folks back to possible harm. Not to mention the waste of money and misuse of our military forces. For what? JMHO....
 LGL1975
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Posted: 11/17/2018 8:45:07 PM

US is bad enough of course


My point exactly. All American presidents are war criminals. Trump just took off the mask of respectability.
 MyTrueCompanion
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Posted: 11/18/2018 4:36:07 AM

We've always vetted [ assessed folks for American citizenship] since our country has been in existence. We've always screened people and have always had agencies that did this.


But,, These folks aren't just migrants.

They're REFUGEES seeking ASYLUM. This is something our country offers to oppressed people. Our country has the means to screen out those in need of REFUGE/ ASYLUM.... From those who do not. Or, have other intentions. Hence, the vetting process I mentioned in my previous post.

And, when the next caravan arrives apply this process to those folks too. If our military must be there I'd hope it would be to help these people with everyday life. I'd sooner see our military used for this than to be used to escort these folks back to possible harm. Not to mention the waste of money and misuse of our military forces. For what? JMHO....


If every "American" who is not 100% Native American was able to track their ancestry & their immigration, they might be surprised. For instance, I know an elderly lady who is a bit of a "Heinz 57" however her German grandfather & his brother stowed away on a ship to come to the US, & when it got near the shore, the jumped off & swam to shore!

They married within the next few years & began to reproduce...

I'll bet there are plenty of immigration stories like that, but because they snuck in, were white/euro appearing no one gave a rat's azz. But see some brown people openly beg for asylum & vilify them? The Mothers & children in particular, but even the males...not every male is an evil rapist/drug lord-criminal.

It's just pure racism.

If a ship of Icelandic, blonde haired, blue eyed men & women pulled up, someone would be rolling out the red carpet...
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:44:00 AM

It's just pure racism.

If a ship of Icelandic, blonde haired, blue eyed men & women pulled up, someone would be rolling out the red carpet...
has nothing to do with racism for most! if thousands of ships showed up with blonde haired blue eyed immigrants and it had the same effect as the flood of latinos has, many would be against that too! but why address those issues? just deny those people any help and call them racist, in fact, just deny there are even any issues to address at all!
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/18/2018 9:03:55 AM
Actually it is Racism..,.when Polk want to expand the US down to the Rio Grande and fabricated a war against Mexico to do so, many opposed not wanting to have to absorb the brown skinned. Same with McKinley and the Philippines.

Not all were war criminals lgl...but certainly enough of them.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:28:27 AM

but why address those issues? just deny those people any help and call them racist, in fact, just deny there are even any issues to address at all!
guess we can just ignore the obvious and focus on the war. was that racist? maybe, I don't really know but many have the same concerns about mass immigration and illegal immigrants and has NOTHING to do with race or where they come from. find a few gay immigrants and we can blame it on being homophobic! maybe ask how someone like trump could ever get elected. he listened when others denied an issue or worse, turn it into something totally different and insult those complaining for all the wrong reasons! build a wall or open the borders, BOTH have negative effects! deny they exist and nothing is resolved.
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 11/18/2018 4:22:26 PM
lot of great discourse guys... thank you.

proper channels are there. why form a stunt?
is economics a valid reason to be labeled a refugee or whatever other pity garnering name fit.s the bill? I say no.
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/19/2018 11:33:15 AM

lot of great discourse guys... thank you.


Well this makes no sense...do you think people are offering opinions for your benefit? Geeze...talk about Narcissism.
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 11/19/2018 3:26:09 PM
I started the thread.
I'm thanking those that want to discuss the topic of the thread.


not every topic is you, or trump,or israel.
you are a stalker.
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/19/2018 3:42:30 PM
You stalked me as 8&Screwedup and continually lied about what Jews said about Gentiles, making it seem as if Jews accused non-jews of being cattle and every other derogatory name under the sun. . You came back, found me and stalked me again when you posted as Hopeful Hunk (hopeless nutcase) and would not leave me alone, making sure I knew who you were, that the holocaust was a fake story, and now as Little Red Riding Hood, playing the perennial victim, you found me and stalked me again.

You have hated me and stalked me from the beginning because you are a raving antisemite and you did not like my strong support of Jews or of Israel. Andyou apparently do not like a Jew having the Temerity to honestly tell you exactly who and what you are.

Sorry hopeless....I know exactly who and what you are and so do you...although lately you have loved playing the victim.

Poor you...what with your night sweats and terrors...everybody should feel bad for you....you got to KJ's heart and she asked me to take it easy on you initially...and I did. All you need to do is review the Isreal (sic) thread and you will see how I patiently put up with your anti-semitic ravings. I call you a nutcase because you are nutcase...but more than that, you are the typical hateful, white supremacist trash that Trump has brought to forefront in our country.
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 11/19/2018 4:12:37 PM
look at yourself crying around

In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread

you are an internet troll who have ruined this forum with your self obsessed pettiness.
and you lack the fortitude
to back your own self up.

pity is too strong a word.

laughable is closer.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/19/2018 5:51:28 PM
lot of great discourse guys... thank you.



Well this makes no sense...do you think people are offering opinions for your benefit? Geeze...talk about Narcissism.
actually, they are offering opinions that differ from yours! does everyone that has an opinion different than yours get an insult?
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/19/2018 7:09:11 PM
^^^depends if they are white supremicist, nazi trash trump supporters.

 platitude545
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Posted: 11/19/2018 7:17:18 PM
Hopeless you know why virtually no one engages with you. Because they see what i see...like people were going to debate with you about the holocaust never happening. Even KJ gave up on you. Very sad.
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 11/19/2018 7:31:47 PM
john..1. this is all about her.
every topic is about her.
these are HER forums...
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 11/19/2018 8:48:46 PM
lol... I'm not even white

she refers to my ancestors as a "class" of people
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/20/2018 6:06:25 AM
^^^^yet you are living in very white Montana with white supremacist gangs? You sound, write, have the ideas that the typical brain garbled white supremacist would have. You are one of them. Only difference is your 160 iq lol...vs their typically 85 iqs.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/20/2018 8:04:21 AM

^^^depends if they are white supremicist, nazi trash trump supporters.
in other words, if they don't agree with you, they are all of the above? are all trump supporters Nazi trash?
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/20/2018 8:36:13 AM
^^^^ do you always speak from utter ignorance John...don't bother answering, that is a rhetorical question. Lets just say that anybody who has followed hopeless'es rantings and ravings and claims through the years know exactly who he is. If you agree with Hopeless and his rantings...that makes you what he is...anti-semitic, supremacist trash.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/20/2018 9:34:23 AM
utter ignorance would be excluding any views other than your own. never responding to the topic at hand but instead tossing out an insult, changing topics and of course, showing your extreme prejudice against all that don't think like you. I am openminded enough to hear others opinions and form my own, can you do the same?
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/20/2018 9:58:54 AM
^^^^ just because how i respond is far over your head does not mean i am not responding. Its not my fault you have zero understanding about the economy or complexities therein. You are not open-minded in the least. You simply reject anything you don't understand, which are most facts above an elementary level, and you stand up for other ignorants, like hopeless. Sorry i can't dumb down economic theory enough for you to get it. Maybe Mustang can explain some basics to you.
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/20/2018 10:03:21 AM
That's another problem with too many trump supporters..they are anti facts, anti intellect, anti science. They simply wallow in their smug ignorance, certain they are right about all of the nonsense they accept...like trump tax cuts were good for them, there is no man made climate change, trump knows what he is doing....mindless support for a mindless man. Sad.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 11/20/2018 10:34:01 AM
yet another insult and judging of others that don't agree. UTTER IGNORANCE! you are extremely prejudice against anyone supporting trump in the slightest bit! YOU are the oppressor here! all those you spew hate at are the victims of YOUR prejudice! are they right or wrong? doesn't really matter once you segregate, devalue and generate hate towards 'them'! you have become the very thing liberals once tried to stop! go back in time and look at how gays were viewed, a little farther and the blacks, far enough and you can include any race, religion or culture. now take a good look at yourself!
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/20/2018 10:39:45 AM
If you had atleast an average iq, you would understand where i am coming from...but you don't. You've been responding to posts you don't understand the same way....offensively, since you have been posting here. Trying to explain anything to you is like trying to talk to a brick wall you are so familiar with.....and you project your own narrow mindedness and prejudices to others. Try going back to school, opening your mind, learning a little logic.
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