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Joined: 6/26/2005
Msg: 161
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you see if I recall it all started when you had made an observation (or personal attack as you like to call it) about me initially:

seems the people here against legalization really think that if pot is legalized its use would go up? crime would go up? how so? i dont want to see your opinions i want a link or something with some facts .all i been reading in this thread is a bunch of christian hoopla .not all of us are christian and anyways half of this thread sounds like its straight out of Reefer Madness. its just ridiculous.

So I responded and I clarified that I am not christian, my profile does say Chatholic I was indeed born into that religion but I as a grown adult I do not practice any religion. Why my views have to be discredited and grouped into religious fanticism is beyond me!?!? The point was YOU grouped me in with all the other people first so I corrected you. Furthermore forums are to voice one's opinion and that is exactly what I did, I voiced my opinion. The fact that you did not find my opinion to your liking is unfortunate but ultimately your choice.
If you need facts and need to be reading up on facts then I invite you use your local library or the internet to do research. The threads started in this forum are strictly to voice one's opinion, the fact that some people cannot form an opinion without having to produce the work of someone else, is a different story. However I have provided links to back up my opinions if you chose to ignore them that's also your choice.

you also said:

man there are some hatefull, closed minded ,****es in this thread.....and... you seem like an angry person.

I could make the very same observation. I have not resorted to name calling. Not even once. I simply disagree with some people's views on here and that makes me and angry person? lol

I did however use you as an example of how boredom is a direct product of chronic pot consumption. Sorry you feel that was an ATTACK on you but that has been my argument amongst others, all along and you happened to fit the bill perfectly. If you feel insecure about this then again, that is more your problem than mine. and in fact you should not feel insecure about this if you truly believe in your way of life. Any form of chronic chemically enduce escapism has a direct corelation with boredom and depression which stems from within and can easily be cured by changing your surroundings and NOT necessarily needs to be done by altering your mental state synthetically. If my way of life does not agree with you that's ok. I am not imposing that on you. But you also don't hear me complaining about being bored or about how they should get rid of pot all together! But potheads on the other hand are the antithesis of that.

On a side note: Life has so much to offer yet if you choose to let it pass you by then boredom and emptyness will reign. It's such a simple truth yet so many neglect to see it. You can expand your mind with life's "truths" and do something productive that helps your inner being grow OR you can sit at home and "expand" it with drugs. One will get you nowhere fast. You decide which one that is.
Joined: 6/26/2005
Msg: 163
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/23/2005 5:16:07 PM
^^ Case closed?? ok judge judy!!!

People die of heart attacks all the times the risk of heart attack goes up by 5 times within the first hour of smoking marijuana. There have been studies to prove this, look it up!
And are you kidding me? if you think pot addicts don't steal for their addiction.

I invite you AGAIN to visit Amsterdam.

man this thread is getting soooo redundant. I'm outy!
Joined: 3/30/2005
Msg: 169
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/24/2005 12:50:50 PM
where do you get pot any way.?.. non of my friends in my network of friends have connections.. open for suggestions and ideas..
any one looking for a f buddy.. ?
send me an email...
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 173
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/24/2005 2:28:12 PM
you would, speedo boy.
I'd suspect that you do that a lot.
That clearly indicates that by your own admission you're a sociopath, as is common among the MJ users and as was noted in several of those links I posted.
It could also be indicative of the degradation in brain function caused by MJ.
Thank you for so lucidly illustrating that fact.

Joined: 7/5/2005
Msg: 178
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/24/2005 5:43:48 PM
You are a class act. Your children will end up just like you. YOU set the example.

mmm... Lets think about that statment for a minute shall we;

i have been smoking pot for 15 years...and amazingly enough i have a job!!!!!

and i make great money

have a family who loves me

have my wits about me

and according to IQ tests i score above average

i have amazing memory retention and i don't sit on the couch eating junk food all

but all in all i like pot.. would rather get high than drunk

my made beer, God made pot....who you going to trust????

I am failing to see the problem with more people like funguy in the world.

It's people like you that make the other countries laugh at America

Oh yeah, and take it from an outside sorce... The reasons people *laugh* at America is because of the fledging ignorance which radiates from it
": The above bragadocious is the example of the delusional thinking that pot does to his brain--he rationalizes himself into thinking what he is doing is OKAY. I doubt that any of this is true. God didn't make pot for you to smoke it any more than he made lye to be used for eyedrops. You're deluding yourself. Will it take one of your children or your wife to freak out and kill themselves trying to emulate their father pothead-----huh?
Joined: 3/8/2004
Msg: 181
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/25/2005 7:14:20 AM
Why is it a crime ?

1) If you are smoking a joint, you may not need valium or a dozen other other drugs ( viagra?) - so less profit for all those drug companies.

2) You could easily grow it yourself and be self-sustaining , unlike anything else available. ( no profit)

3) Why drink ? ( Look at all the breweries and distilleries in the USA)

4) You make more money if people are stressed and scared. If they actually sit back for a moment, relax, and think about life - they may decide to get off their treadmill and not play the game anymore.

5)There are a large number of people that have experimented with it, and found it pretty much harmless. Unlike hard drugs, there is a rather large potential market. Couple that with all of the above, and it's bad news for the government.

6) Your taste in music and films may improve, limiting what crud media people can sell you.

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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 182
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/25/2005 8:12:09 AM
holy crap ! this thread gets better everyday! lol

addictin' ain't it lol
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 191
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/25/2005 9:47:01 PM
And you the self confessed child molester it was stated here somewhere have the intrepidity to judge?

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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 192
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/25/2005 9:52:11 PM
re message 202
Hey show some respect the man has the courage to call hin self Capt gordo )Fatpig (
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 202
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/26/2005 5:10:47 PM
I apologise pig is not part of the gordo expression

"El Gordo," spanish words meaning, "The Fat One"
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 204
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/26/2005 5:37:05 PM
I freely admit it my comment as a *cheap shot*
Howere as it seems cheap shots are de rigueur on the Current Events portion of the forums and i was *merely* or it it*simply*? following the established trend.
Mario2010 is no stranger tothe all to commaon phenomenon I see by the above post.
Joined: 7/23/2005
Msg: 207
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/26/2005 7:03:00 PM
I'll tell you why it's illegal...The federal Government dosent allow it because they wanna fuck with me!!.lol...Yeah thats right, they know that after a hard days work there is nothing I would rather do than roll up a doobie, toke up, watch reruns of the "Simpsons" and "munch" coco puffs out of a huge plastic bowl....Brrrb....only a couple more month's of piss tests...Yeah...
Joined: 1/24/2003
Msg: 209
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Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/26/2005 7:36:30 PM
"Flames", will result in suspensions. If you can't compose a reasoned reponse to advocate your views?

Expect a short stay.
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 214
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/27/2005 10:44:42 AM
"The only ones in the Justice system to profit from Illegal drug trade are the corrupt ones who are on the payroll of the mob bosses."

profit is made by any lawyer prosecutor judge corout reporter jailer PO and all in between
corrupt or not.
Joined: 6/28/2005
Msg: 216
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/27/2005 11:13:48 AM
Well it stated off with weed ,But someone is allways bringing up the crack heads...""Crackers"" lie, steal, and kill for their addiction<""MOST OF THEM"".....Pot heads Well the world may never know......Man I love that 23 precent THC shit..Keeps my head wright..I bet the cops are just eating this page up today....NORML
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 223
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/27/2005 7:22:34 PM
See post 230
In most instances when money changes hands profit is somewhere in the equation, is the point

Please tell me you don't actually believe that statement.

Not able to Capt. (see above)

I suppose one may attempt make such an argument as to criminal defense attorneys.
Thank you for allowing that.
Don't have the stats, but my guess that the majority of pot related defense costs are through public defenders who's salary is paid by me, the tax payer. The Judges, court reporters, jailers, prosecutors, etc, etc, etc., have plenty of work to do dealing with murders, rapes, beatings, etc etc.

And you are quite correct you do not have the statistics on that aspect as to the rest of statement it now appears you recognise those name do derive profit, thank you again.
You may take my rebuttal in any manner you choose of course, and will.
The way I see it is within a for profit society precious little escapes the penalty of tax or some form of payment extracted, whether in the form of money or time, that’s the way it is.
Are we not familiar with the catch-phrase, There is no free lunch?
Bumper stickers proclaim “As*, Gas or Cash. Nobody rides for free!

with regards to this bit Capt,
In other words, "blame it all on the Evil US, and capitalism" This socialist blather never ceases to amaze me.
please explain the extreme polarity between the righteous capitalisn and "socialist blather"

The offensive post by me regarding yore nom de plumme was sparked exactly because of the all-to-quick assignment of labels, and an example of either/or thinking. Offence is offence the deghree aspect is some what like the old joke with the guy in a bar attempting to pick up a woman and offering a million dollars to her , which see readily accepts, and then propping the offer to 20 dollars.
once a *value* is brought into question all that matters is agreement on price, or degree.
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Joined: 7/17/2005
Msg: 227
Why is smoking pot a crime?
Posted: 8/27/2005 8:53:52 PM
"It would remove the incentive to fund the smuggling enterprises through organized crime, ergo, "The Mob". "

And this this "Mob" you have so srupulously avoided comment om what say you Capt?

there are more reference to CIA involvement in drug smuggling and the wieght of evidence cannot be denied You government is complicant in the very drugs it claims to abhor.

"To think that there is a naferious government policy to keep pot illegal soley for the purpose of acquiring assets by way of the seizure of those possessing the substance, is not only niave, but also borders on paranoia"

Yes i suppose it would border on paranoia and naivety if that where the only reason .It is not nor have i introduced it as such. Why do you?

"Now, if you want to point to organized crime, and the influence it has on our legislaters, you have an argument with which I can agree."

"...before any lefties, or extreme right wingers..."

drop the labeling, it does nothing of value for your argument and only elicits replies in kind.
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