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 jon1725
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^^^^^^^ If you want a Venezuela type country here, she definitely would be the future. But we definitely don't want that.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/31/2019 7:28:34 AM
Don't hold your breath on that cancer cure. Even I see it as a scam, likely the company wants to go public and manipulate potential investors.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/31/2019 8:46:36 AM
Jon, I know to you on the far right...socialism is a four letter word, but (1) Socialism is not the reason for Venezuela https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-cant-blame-socialism-venezuelas-crisis-154605494.html

and (2) Some things just don't work when it comes to capitalism...one of those is health care where the profit motive is obviously killing the US health care system. Seen pharma prices lately in the US compared to the cost in other countries?
 jon1725
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Posted: 1/31/2019 9:54:11 AM
Plat, I realize you on the far left would deny what is going on. Totally understandable.

MICHAEL QAZVINI
August 14, 2017
“But that’s not real socialism,” says every leftist sympathizer when confronted with the horrific reality of Venezuela’s collapse into an autocratic dystopia. But for those of us who don’t have our heads in the sand, Venezuela is a textbook example of what happens when socialism infects a country and purges any hint of private enterprise.

The people of Venezuela are suffering tremendously thanks to the Bolivarian socialist experiment. Hugo Chavez, the socialist state’s now-deceased founding father, once promised a flourishing utopia where children were merry and the poor were well-fed. Today, Venezuela is anything but joyous. It’s hell on earth.

Under Chavez’s handpicked successor, President Nicolas Maduro, Venezuelans are flooding the streets in protest against everything the socialist state stands for: poverty, destitution, starvation, suffering, and ideological slavery. Intent on preserving the socialist system by any means necessary, Maduro has consolidated power like a king and deployed the state’s security forces to beat down protesters. Before socialism suffocated the prosperity and freedom out of the country, Venezuela was a relatively successful state relative to its neighbors in Latin America. In 2017, Venezuela is a trash heap pitied by the entire region.

Here are five tangible ways socialism itself turned Venezuela into a trash heap:

1. State-imposed price controls limited the supply of basic goods by rendering production unprofitable. In order for Bolivarian revolution to fully materialize, the socialist state needed to have full control over the price of goods coming out of factories. As long as the oligarchs in government enjoyed the fruits of oil revenue, profit for businesses, both large and small, were considered antithetical to the socialist agenda. The proletariat had to have access to goods even if it meant producing those goods at a loss, demanded the socialist state. After incurring tremendous losses, many businesses shut down, unable to continue production. With nobody left to make basic goods, supply became scarce, naturally pushing up the price of goods. And at a certain point, only the richest of the rich could afford goods smuggled across the border and sold on the black market.

2. Venezuela became a single commodity market. By discouraging businesses to pursue profit, the socialist government pushed the economy back to the dark ages. Creativity died. Nobody was incentivized to produce anything of value or innovate. Luckily, Venezuela had a safety net: oil, lots of it. But the global oil market is fickle. It ebbs and flows. Prices drop and rise quickly. When your entire economy is reliant on one commodity, then your economic fate is intertwined with price fluctuations that are beyond your control.

3. Venezuela subsidized its unsustainable welfare state with oil revenue. State-run oil companies were responsible for producing the revenue necessary to subsidize the government’s extensive welfare programs. Under the socialist system, the poor were promised housing, education, healthcare and other wildly expensive benefits. To pay for all of this, the Venezuelan state sold oil in bulk overseas. But when the price of crude plunged, Venezuela went into uncontrollable free fall. By then the people had become so reliant on public services and government benefits that they had no way to take care of themselves on their own. The government controlled the lives of the people and now the government had no way to keep them healthy, fed, and alive.

4. The socialist system encouraged corruption. A socialist government needs an absurd number of government workers to run the day-to-day lives of the people. As a result, government itself becomes the one employer that is always hiring more employees. In socialist Venezuela, the government filled its coffers with oil revenue, generously paying top officials who exercised control over oil profit distribution. Government oligarchs grew rich while the people remained poor. The Washington Examiner explains further:

The bigger the government, the more people's success depends on sucking up to officials rather than on offering a service to consumers. Expanding state bureaucracies offer new opportunities for nepotism. First, Venezuelan jobs were allocated on the basis of political allegiance; now food supplies are.

5. The government had no way of controlling hyperinflation because the country’s monetary policy was imaginary. The Venezuelan state pretended to have control over the price of the bolivar, the nation’s (now-worthless) currency. The socialist state thought that it could set the price of goods, wages, property, and services and simply print money to make up for deficits. But as it turns out, recklessly printing money doesn’t actually work.

Forbes contributor Tim Worstall explains why the socialist government’s monetary policy was destined to fail:

The government does indeed control certain nominal numbers about the economy. They can and do insist that the bolivar is worth this much, that bread must be sold at a certain price, that wages are this or that. And then that reality does that uncomfortable thing again and it turns out that the bolivar is worth what someone will pay for it, no more, meaning that the nominal prices of labour or bread are very different from the real ones.

Give me your backing as we create a constituent assembly and I will give you victory over rising prices. Give me the constituent assembly and you will see. We will go to battle over inflation and those criminals who profiteer and perpetuate our problems.

The inflation is of course being created by the government as they print money to pay their bills. For the Modern Monetary Theory people are entirely correct, government can just print money and spend it on whatever it likes. When they've done so hyperinflation like that in Venezuela is usually what results as well. Meaning that there's nothing wrong with MMT as a theory it's just that it always fails as a policy.

Worstall concludes that when the government aggressively allocates resources, in any country, including the United States, it’s always bad news.

“Economics is about the allocation of real resources so it's the real prices that matter,” he notes. “The Chavistas thought it was nominal that mattered, that they could just set prices as they wish. It don't work that way, something we should recall as our own democratic socialists attempt to fix the prices of rent, wages, college and the rest.”

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And this------------------"It don't work that way, something we should recall as our own democratic socialists attempt to fix the prices of rent, wages, college and the rest.”"-----------------------------------------says it all!!!!!!!

aoc and warren and many others are living up to that^^^^^^^, what they want to see.

Run Howard Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/31/2019 11:29:05 AM
^^^ Jon, please try not to become like Justinelle....a guy with zero integrity...You need to site your source rather than expecting us to find it on the web. When you attempt to hide the Source, it makes every think you post as suspect...because you can cut and paste only what you choose.
 jon1725
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Posted: 1/31/2019 2:25:10 PM
Oh plat, all of us enjoy your humor!! Took me 2 seconds to find the source I posted and the article. It says more about your "ability" then anything but it actually is your liberal way to want to jumble up opinions that are different then yours. Have you run for office before? lol

In other news and hopefully bright people will be able to confirm that it is true(not holding my breath) did ya hear about the democrat who co-sponsored the bill for allowing a child to be killed after delivery??? She came out and APOLOGIZED for doing so, said she never read the bill.......and she CO-SPONSORED it!!!!!!!! And the democratic governor speaks on a radio show how the child can be delivered, how they will be kept "comfortable" and resuscitated of ok by family and THEN a discussion by doctor and family. Even pro choice people are disgusted by all of this and a tidal wave is a coming!!!!!!!!!

Run Howard Run!!!!!!!
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/31/2019 3:48:15 PM
^Trump was right in 2016. Hillary and her party, the Democrats, want to "rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby."


Infanticide is so progressive! In fact, the US is one of only 7 countries that allow for elective abortions up to the day of birth! We should be proud of how progressively sick we have become.


If we called babies in the womb..."undocumented migrants" just trying to enter through the birth canal for a chance to live...would that end the push to kill them?
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 2/2/2019 8:51:10 AM
John
As far as aoc, when more and more people really dive into what she believes, how she is going to pay for it, what she has no idea what she is talking about, then more and more people will see she is a socialist and socialism definitely is something we need to stay away from or we will become a venezuela!!!!!!


Venezuela's (and Cuba's, and any other country that doesn't buy into the U.S. global consensus) hardship is partially due to the fact that the West (The U.S.) has always tried to thwart them. Much like other Latin American countries that try to buck the western financial predators.

Answer me this: If socialism/communism/various authoritarian systems didn't "work," then 'splain the rise of China please. 'Splain the rise of Saudi Arabia please. 'Splain the U.S. support for many other dictators/authoritarian countries. I'm waiting. Venezuela's problems stem at least partially from the fact that they don't play ball with the "Washington consensus," i.e. Neoliberalism, which to those who don't know, is a system designed to destroy organized labor and social safety nets, plunder natural resourses, and produce an economy generally dangling at the whims of Washington and Wall Street predators. The predators that so-called "non establisment" folks decry. And rightfully so, some countries reject this program. These countries should be those who are respected for their courage and independence, and are the TRUE "non establishment" entities, so I don't really know why those right wing "non establishment" folks don't recognize that. "Non establishment" is non establishment, period. Ya can't be "non establisment" and be in favor of policies that are pushed by the most powerful "establishment" forces in the world - Washington and Wall Street.

And don't start with the "murderous dictator"...or "human rights" type thing, cuz we all know we've supported, and support now many said dictators.... cuz they've bought into the Washington consensus. Ya see, it isn't "murderous dictators" we have a problem with, it's not lack of "human rights," not "socialism,".... it's not towing the line with the "Washington consensus" that's the real issue.

If authoritarian governments are so bad, then 'splain why we're so close to Saudi Arabia, or the other repressive Gulf Kingdoms? Or the West's development of authoritarian communist China as the world's manufacturing source? Vietnam? etc. etc.?

Folks who believe that Venezuela, Russia, China, etc. etc. etc. are "bad" because they're socialist or communist .....ya need to get a clue, really. These countries are boogeymen cuz they don't kowtow to the western financial/political order.

But "socialism!!!!!!" does have a way of setting certain people's hair on fire, so there is value in claiming as "socialist!!!!!" a tiny country whose government we want to topple and impose our will by force. Of course, we can do this, but someone like, say Vladimir Putin, can't in his own backyard, becuase after all, he's a "ruthless dictator!!!" and a threat to the free world!

Several years ago Russia's state owned gas supplier Gazprom threatened to cut supplies of natural gas to Eastern Europe..and sent the West into a tizzy. "Putin!!! Evil dictator!!!". Can someone explain to me just how that differs from the U.S.'s freeze of any Venezuelan oil transactions using U.S. bank networks? Which effectively puts the kibosh on Venezuelan oil exports. What's the difference between that and what Putin threatened to do? Not much, except that it's us doing it, so it's OK.
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 2/2/2019 9:01:35 AM

Who is this Schwartz person?
Schultz....got his name wrong, sorry. But it doesn't matter what his name is, because as I suspected, he's just another billionaire d0uchbag who doesn't want to pay taxes. Camouflages neoliberal economic views with somewhat progressive social views. Basically a limousine liberal, but on steroids because he seems he wants to cut the safety net to reduce the deficit instead of raising taxes. We'll see how that works out. Same ol', same ol' failed stuff, though, in my view.
 jon1725
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Posted: 2/2/2019 2:47:16 PM
Ahh, schultz, doesn't align with the democrats so he is a really bad white guy. I said Schultz, not Northam!!!!!! And believe what you want but yu are so wrong with Venezuela. Soory you haven't a "clue" like you alluded to.
 LeFouGamboj
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Posted: 2/2/2019 6:05:08 PM
SS45 says in post 58:


Folks who believe that Venezuela, Russia, China, etc. etc. etc. are "bad" because they're socialist or communist .....ya need to get a clue, really. These countries are boogeymen cuz they don't kowtow to the western financial/political order.


You hit ^ the nail........RIGHT on the HEAD.............I thought I was the only one here who believed this......your post summs it up very well.....................but trying to convince a bunch of Trump-loving bird brains of this....is virtually impossible.................................Like a bunch of dumb pidgeons being tossed popcorn in the local park, they have no idea where their food (information) is coming from...........all they know is that it has a visceral appeal, and just mindlessly gobble it down!

as far as the topic of this thread...................AOC is to be ADMIRED for courageously voicing what she believes in....and although I do not always agree with some of her proposals...............I CAN SEE that she is somebody that is not towing the desires of Washington and Wall street.............but she is just 1 conressperson representing just 1 district, and that is all!

The Repubs are trying to depict her as the poster-child of a Democratic party that they say is covertly moving towards becoming socialistic up and down..............and are using the same scare tactics of her...........they did during the time that Obama was trying to push forward the Affordale care act ( that it was rationing of healthcare.........it had death panels...........it was communistic)

The Democrats have to be wary of this........and make sure they don't make the same mistake (of omission) that they made during the days pre-inacting of Obama-care..............they need to make clear what the mainstream Democratic message is......and not to conflate AOC's personal views with those of the main body.
 platitude545
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Posted: 2/3/2019 2:59:04 AM
Jon, i know you can be intelligent if you want. Do you always have to adapt the shtick of the trumpsters? Is it too difficult for you to express independent, intelligent thoughts? To the low iq trump supporters everything is always so simple, so black and white. You all speak in sound bites. Socialism is a four letter word. Venezuela was done in by socialism. Of course not factually correct but its the conservative talking point...

I wiuldn^t care so much but it feeds into the dumb azz attitude that anything socialist is bad. Example...universal health care is socialism so universal health care is bad. So our pathetic health care system is never improved.

Or climate change is a hoax, even though the climate is rapifly changiing in real time before our eyes.

When did we become a nation of such simpletins? Or have the people always been this dumb?
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Posted: 2/3/2019 10:14:46 AM
John writes:

Ahh, schultz, doesn't align with the democrats so he is a really bad white guy.
Where, anywhere, did I allude to Schultz being "bad" because he is white? Why do conservatives always think everything is about race?


I said Schultz, not Northam!!!!!!
Again, where did I mention Northam?!?! You need to go see a Doc for your ADD. Acquired Democrat Dementia. One of the symptoms of ADD is cowering in a corner, trembling, foaming at the mouth and involuntarily chanting the names of imagined Democratic boogeymen. Boo! lol


And believe what you want but yu are so wrong with Venezuela. Soory you haven't a "clue" like you alluded to.
Folks with a "clue" will at least have listen and debate, and acknowledge there is plenty of convenient hypocrisy in the Venezuela situation.....as is true with any of our meddling in other nations' politics. One can admit it, and say something like, "Well, it's American exceptionalism!!" or "Spreading fweedom!!" or something like that, although these are really copouts too). But the clueless put their hands over the ears and ignore it and try to change the subject. Alls I can say, is you must support the American empire and the hegemony of the financial elites.

LaFou wrote:
The Repubs are trying to depict her as the poster-child of a Democratic party that they say is covertly moving towards becoming socialistic up and down..............and are using the same scare tactics of her.
My belief is the Dems allow it, though, to excite their own left wing base and give them hope. (Only to snatch the football away, Charlie Brown style, when the pedal hits the metal, in favor of centrists.) So that even when the lefties are invariably disappointed, hopefully they will stay with the party that contains their uber-left heroes to fight another day. I think Trump's candidacy thwarted that a bit, though as I've noted before.

Platitude wrote:
Example...universal health care is socialism so universal health care is bad. So our pathetic health care system is never improved.
I guess John likes to ignore the fact that our healthcare per-capita costs is by far the highest in the world among industrialized economies. And still soaring. And just like Tom Brady, I will anticipate the opponent's move on this one......as in John's predictable rebuttal on this subject. Getting out my chalkboard and X's and 0's lol.... It's probable he will argue this: "It's because of Obamacare!!!!". Nope. Our per capita healthcare costs were highest in the world and soaring before O-Care came along. I will admit, though, O-Care really didn't do much to reign in costs, though.

*Spikes football in endzone*


When did we become a nation of such simpletins? Or have the people always been this dumb?
Personally, I think part of it is most of us are in our own news bubbles. Both left and right.
 purplerider1200
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Posted: 2/3/2019 7:34:40 PM

i know you can be intelligent if you want. Do you always have to adapt the shtick of the trumpsters? Is it too difficult for you to express independent, intelligent thoughts? To the low iq trump supporters everything is always so simple, so black and white. You all speak in sound bites. Socialism is a four letter word. Venezuela was done in by socialism. Of course not factually correct but its the conservative talking point...

I wiuldn^t care so much but it feeds into the dumb azz attitude that anything socialist is bad. Example...universal health care is socialism so universal health care is bad. So our pathetic health care system is never improved.

Or climate change is a hoax, even though the climate is rapifly changiing in real time before our eyes.

When did we become a nation of such simpletins? Or have the people always been this dumb?


You do. How can I tell it isn't you?
When you compose it, it's full of spelling mistakes. Now be honest. You flunked english in grade school.
 platitude545
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^^^^^big f_ing deal. Small phone keys without option to edit. At least I have the ability of critical thinking, and I am not a racist, myopic member of the Trump cult, as are you. Learn how to think and then criticize.
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Posted: 2/4/2019 9:48:18 AM
For all the worry by anti-socialists about government interference in business...they didn't bother to complain when Chump gave $7 million tax payer dollars to Carrier and nothing to its competitors, all to hold onto jobs (of course, the fact that former guv MikePence never did, should have been a red flag to what did happen). and a tax cut for the wealthy to create jobs? yeah, that's not a government handout that failed, either. Plenty of OPEC nations subsidize costs for their citizens to prevent uprisings, Iraq used to beat us in infant mortality rates. As plenty have pointed out, countries that act socialist (like hey, Sweden) don't run into problems so long as they don't run into us. Hugo Chavez played footsie with Fidel, and we get a lot of oil from them since the transport costs are low. also, socialism encourages corruption? hey, when Chump fleeced people with Trump University, was he a socialist? As for socialist governments inflating their currency to pay for things, chump on the campaign trail proposed that exact same solution to the deficit. Fuzzy John's article was, alas, fuzzy on logic.

and how is it that people who want a tax cut for the rich, a renewal of the cold war with russia, a billion dollar border wall, don't ever ask, "who's going to pay for all this?" but when the dems want social safety nets for the working class, all of a sudden the working class wants to slit its own throat and go, "oh, who's going to pay for all this?"

AOC is just another "mouthy broad" to scare the voting base with, now that HRC is out of the picture (except when they keep bringing her up). You know the GOP has run out of bogeymen when they bring up abortion yet again. If the GOP wants to look like they really care about kids, and aren't pushing woman's health issues as just a way to control women, they should do the following:

stop trying to defund Planned Parenthood, which offers birth control to those who wouldn't afford it otherwise, and we all know what an ounce of prevention trumps.

tell Hobby Lobby et al to pay for insurance to cover it. or offer an Obamacare that does.

stop cutting programs for poor kids and single moms.

stop reducing pollution laws that leave our future generations unhealthy water and air

stop responding to every school shooting with "now now, its too soon to discuss sensible solutions. too soon we said! we're only just going to pray now, like we have before."

then thinking people might actually believe the GOP GAS about kids.
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Posted: 2/4/2019 4:43:51 PM
AOC is a gift! Love her!

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"stop trying to defund Planned Parenthood, which offers birth control to those who wouldn't afford it otherwise, and we all know what an ounce of prevention trumps."


When Planned Parenthood stops selling dead baby parts....government funding can be discussed.

And YOU don't get to comment on it. You are NOT a woman or are you?
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Posted: 2/4/2019 5:24:06 PM
^^^
Anyone can comment on anything here.
It’s a forum.... talk, talk, talk.

We’re just not heavily edited.

And, by the way, it is federally illegal to ‘sell dead baby parts’ and always has been.
Same as it is to sell adult parts (dead or not).
After an abortion the non(?)-mother can donate the remains for research.
Same as an adult can donate organs or body for research.
Any costs discussed would probably be for transportation.
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 2/4/2019 6:31:06 PM
"Anyone can comment on anything here.
It’s a forum.... talk, talk, talk."


Not according to the Pink P*ssy hatters. :)



"And, by the way, it is federally illegal to ‘sell dead baby parts’ and always has been."

And....yet...Planned Parenthood still did it.

Precisely, why government funds should be withheld until investigations are complete and taxpayers can be assured that such atrocities will not be committed in the future.


Out of curiosity....what do you think the reason is for the recent push for legislation of third trimester up to birth abortions is all about?
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Posted: 2/5/2019 11:28:04 AM
The investigations (federal and several states) were completed in 2016 and Planned Parenthood was exonerated.
It means they did not commit 'such atrocities' in the first place.
Kind of like child slavery in the non-existent basement of a pizza parlor.

However, there is now a push for an investigation of the investigation papers of some of the (or maybe just the federal one) investigations.

My opinion of the recent push for extending abortion to the third trimester is that it is caused by several factors:
1. More and more children that would have died in utero are being born through fetal surgery. This is always dangerous to the mother as well as the fetus and amazingly expensive - even when covered by insurance. It is not always effective.
2. The fear that the conservatives and Supreme Court will reverse Roe vs Wade and are using this as a bargaining chip in political maneuvering - i.e. something they can trade (i.e. we'll trade no abortions after 2nd trimester if Roe vs Wade is NOT reversed).
3. With anti-abortionist threatening/killing doctors, women, clinics and doctors refusing to perform abortions -it may take 9 months to actually find a doctor to perform an abortion
4. The out-of-reach target of perfecting humanity via genetics... which I consider something that hasn't quite reached the consciousness of most people. It's simmering just below the boiling point. I suspect this will hit consciousness when the Vatican makes a judgement on whether or not clones have a separate soul from their source genetics or even a soul at all. The Vatican has a lot of opinions about human cloning but, last I checked, they hadn't made a judgement on that.
5. Probably some more factors that I'll think later. (Always happens that way, doesn't it.)
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Posted: 2/5/2019 2:08:35 PM

When did we become a nation of such simpletins? Or have the people always been this dumb?

Apparently, there is even a term for that, the term is, the flight from complexity. Its an understated way of saying that people are stupid and they enjoy being so.
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Posted: 2/5/2019 2:11:14 PM
Typo's from the phone are one thing,


Now be honest. You flunked english in grade school.


but complaining about typo's while committing grade-school grammatical errors, is hilarious :))))
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Posted: 2/5/2019 2:19:16 PM
"When did we become a nation of such simpletins? Or have the people always been this dumb"

^^^^^Well, we saw a lot of it with corrupt hillary the bern, liz and now we see it with aoc so it's been going on for a long while and it continues.
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Posted: 2/5/2019 2:22:45 PM

Well, we saw a lot of it with corrupt hillary the bern, liz and now we see it with aoc so it's been going on for a long while and it continues.


ROFLMAO...a quote from the self proclaimed two time Obama voter, who quotes authors from the Daily Caller....hahahahahahahaha
 jon1725
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Posted: 2/5/2019 3:16:31 PM
From Davis Harris Jr on aoc "bloopers"-----------

1 Unemployment is low because people are working 80 hours a week
The number of jobs or the amount of hours you work do not affect the unemployment numbers
2 “A 17-year-old can walk into a shop” and purchase an assault weapon
17 year olds cannot buy any kind of gun in America
3 Abolish ICE
Self explanatory
4 Capitalism won’t always exist in the world
She also said capitalism hasn’t always been here.
5 “We’re gonna flip this seat red”
She obviously means turn it blue, but I am sure she and Bernie will turn a lot of seats red.
6 Settlements in Palestine
She claimed that Israel occupies land belonging to the Palestinians and are building settlements there. No Israeli in their right mind would build a house in lands controlled by the terrorists known as Palestinians

^^^^^^^Oh aoc, thank you for being who you are, like eddie would say.....clark, that's the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, you continue to not know what you are talking about.
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