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 kavapaw22
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Giving money to religious leaders is always a good thing:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228?fbclid=IwAR0k08qDoTL2jVZdnAergQNNXlifpSg1a7S64GewNRQV8u8w1bAV3Sa-qvs
 SurelyIamShirley
Joined: 7/22/2016
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Posted: 3/11/2019 10:41:29 AM

congrats on staying off the sauce. its a depressant, so that explains the mood change. some will find a need for sugar to match what the alcohol used to give, but of course you likely know what giving in to sugar cravings can do healthwise.


MPH. Thank you but luckily, I've never been one for sweets....lol.

K22. I did not read your link. The name of Trump was enough because I don't want to discuss politics. I suspect that your comment is intended as sarcasm and there will always be those who for whatever reasons, do not support Christianity. It has been...and always will be but it is not my place to judge.

Today is Day 20 for me and the miracle is that I have not experienced ANY cravings or ANY withdrawal symptoms.

My daily devotional today advised me to "SEEK TO LIVE IN THE PRESENT - with Me!" Me being God and I that I should also thank him for this precious day of life, particularly my new life in his presence and without the influence of alcohol. This is my journey and I will do it God's way.

Love to all and have a wonderful day!
 kavapaw22
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Posted: 3/11/2019 10:51:51 AM
^^^ actually the Link has nothing to do with Trump, other than it is his spiritual adviser who is suggesting her followers send her their first month salaries or face repercussions from God. Blackmailing with threats from God? I consider these religious people looking for money to be Grifters and Con artists, and what they do should be criminalized. I am not talking about legitimate tithes to the church that are used for church business or to help the poor, but scammers getting rich off of believers in the name of religion.
 SurelyIamShirley
Joined: 7/22/2016
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Posted: 3/13/2019 8:29:22 PM
Day 23 tomorrow! Unbelievable! I was at my son's today to bathe the dogs who got skunk sprayed this morning and no one was home. Almost full bottle of vodka (my favorite) on the kitchen counter and I looked at it, picked it up, and had truly no craving. I could not have done this alone after almost 20 years of drinking daily. I have to thank God for this.
 Seamist474
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Posted: 3/13/2019 9:10:14 PM
^^^ Where was your god 20 years ago when you couldn't go a day without a drink? Just asking.

I'm wondering where god was when the priests were raping children. I truly wonder how people wrap their heads around that. They can thank god for a small "miracle" like not taking a drink but where is god when hundreds die in fires, earthquakes, hurricanes or at the hands of religious leaders.

I don't have a problem with faith. I have a problem with the word "miracle" being tossed around or thanking god for your own inner strength and your own strong will and strong mind.

Keep up the good work.
 kavapaw22
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Posted: 3/14/2019 8:49:34 AM
^^^ I don't have a problem with Shirley's finding strength in God. Wherever her strength comes from is a good thing.

I do sometimes wonder though about the reasoning. I am good friends with a very religious Jewish family who follow all of the Jewish traditions, including the requirements of "no work" on the Sabbath, which among other things means no traveling by a motor vehicle on the Sabbath (somehow the firing of a combustion engine is considered work), you can't even turn on lights. You need to turn the lights on before the Sabbath starts when the Sun goes down Friday evenings.

Anyway, a few years ago there was a major Plane Crash killing all on board and two deeply religious people, good friends of my friends, were booked on that flight but missed the plane and re-booked to another flight. After the original flight went down, my friends posted on facebook how it was a miracle, that God had saved these two by ensuring they missed the flight.

I thought about responding, but didn't, questioning how it could be a miracle if God could have saved everybody but instead chose to save only those two and instead killed everybody else, including presumably two people who replaced those two. Why would God be so selective about his miracles? You are right, if God is helping Shirley to avoid drinking now, why did God ignore her when she started her bad habit to begin with. None of this makes sense to me and I don't think anybody can really explain it other than to say God works in mysterious ways...who knows, by saving those two, maybe he was saving a descendant who will end up being another Albert Einstein....still...you have to wonder about these issues.
 Seamist474
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Posted: 3/14/2019 11:02:56 AM

I don't have a problem with Shirley's finding strength in God. Wherever her strength comes from is a good thing.


Nor do I have a problem with it. I'd also like her to pat herself on the back, give herself credit for her own hard work at the same time. I'd like her to look in the mirror and say "Thank god for the strength you gave me today. And "you go girl", you did good."

I will admit I have an issue with the word "miracle" being tossed around. I also have an issue with the word "hero". But that's just me. I have yet to see anything that I would consider a "miracle". I have seen heroes, they walk among us daily and some we just don't recognize.

My question has always been, why do people thank god when something good happens but don't blame god when the terrible stuff happens? Where was god when children were raped by priests...for example.

My brother is a Buddhist. My sister is very spiritual and find knowledge and comfort in many eastern beliefs and meditates to calm her soul and mind. My father isn't religious but believes in a higher power. I'm an atheist. We all have a great time around the dinner table. None of us have problems with how each of us lives our lives or our beliefs.
 Spectrallight
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Posted: 3/14/2019 1:17:48 PM

I'd also like her to pat herself on the back, give herself credit for her own hard work


It's 100% Shirley. All I have to say.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 3/14/2019 3:54:58 PM
I am going back to post # 1, the OP the beginning. In fact, the" genesis "of this thread. Specifically, the headline that read …


Christianity and POF- Can they be combined?


And, just from what I've seen of the womens profiles in my area here, I'd say a lot of them are Christians. Not sure exactly what most are looking for but many sure are explicit in expressing their faith in Christianity. So, I am wondering... Ladies, are a lot of Mens profiles expressing the same zeal for the faith? Just asking as I don't browse the guys here.

And, I'd say why not combine differing ideas or even work towards fostering something good that everyone can agree on.. Ideas welcome I'd say.
 rednwhiterider
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Posted: 3/14/2019 3:58:03 PM
congrats Shirley!

glad things are going well. cept the skunk...

some folks are just Debbie downers.
they NEED to act this way.
time vampires, soul lechers

it's a form of lust.

keep on keeping on.
fill your time and life with what works for you.
lots of folks are happy for you, regardless of who your God is.


^^^I agree... why NOT work on fostering something good?
even a small kindness costs very little, but can make a big difference.
 kavapaw22
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Posted: 3/14/2019 4:13:36 PM
^^^ I was waiting for you to show up with more of your negative crud pretending it would be positive... But that's you...negativity is your middle name.. It is simply impossible for you to post something without showing overt negativity. Must suk to be you. Very sad.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 3/14/2019 4:14:53 PM
#111..... #110 agrees.... Foster the good, like we know we should, and sure would if we could.

And again I will ask the Ladies here, are there a lot of Mens profiles on POF seeking Christian Ladies? Are there a lot of us expressing a interest in the faith at all? Just wondering, and obviously also asking.
 Seamist474
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:05:06 PM
^^^
I will say that if I see "my faith is important to me" or "looking for a god-fearing woman" (both of which I've seen multiple times), I steer clear. I see "I'm judgmental, critical, controlling and I'm looking for a Stepford Wife or Handmaiden". But that's just me.

I had one guy I met for coffee profess how he wanted someone to go to church with him every Sunday and how important that was - he was also 3 times divorced and asked how many dates it would take for me to have sex with him.

So, I steer clear of the religious folks. But that's just me.

Keep in mind, some of the evangelical Teabaggers think that Trump was chosen by god but they forget that he cheated on all three wives, paid off a porn star and a Playboy Bunny and apparently there are tapes of him getting peed on by Russian hookers. Yup, the chosen one.
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:10:52 PM
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I can not recall receiving messages from profiles that have gone overboad with proclaimations of their Christianity but I have dated a couple of nice Christian men from here.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:38:14 PM
115,,,, I have met some nice people here of all faiths and some nice folks who have had no faith at all.

I got a message from a lady once and she said. "You are not religious? Does that mean you don't believe in God? According to her profile she was a devout Christian. And she contacted me first.

I answered back to her this..... Which one? Meaning which God should I be believing in.

She answered me back that in her opinion I was a sick person. I then wrote her that no, I felt just fine.

That was the extent of our conversation..... Seemed kind of close minded and I thought anyone whose beliefs shut off their minds to this extent was the sick one IMO. Why judge others over their world views??

And, as long as it doesn't lead to worldwide strife and war it's all good....

Or, is it?
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:40:54 PM
^People judge others for all kinds of reasons.

Did you think religion would be an exception?
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 3/14/2019 6:04:40 PM
117, yup. People do judge others for many reasons. To me religion is but another bone of contention for people worldwide to argue about and judge one another over.

I mean, I don't really care what you believe as long as you keep it to yourself and don't start a war over it. If I like one of your ideas I'll thank you for it and maybe even adopt it myself. If I disagree I'll let you know and hope you do the same for me. If I think it's of importance enough to do so..... No one is perfect.

With that thought, and going back to the OP Yes. I do think Christianity or any differing sets of beliefs are compatible not just here on POF but out there in the big old world too....

As long as we realize we're all different and all most of us really want to do is live. And maybe, love one another in spite of our differences...
 SurelyIamShirley
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Posted: 3/14/2019 10:10:34 PM
Hello all!
Lots of supportive messages and I really appreciate those. Day 24 tomorrow and I'm actually getting so used to living without alcohol, I often have to go to the calendar to confirm what day I'm on. Unbelievable, especially considering I've been dealing with some stress lately but then again, I am trying to trust God to help. Pray more....worry less. It actually works. Many will say it is a crutch and all in my head but something is different in me now. I feel more joy. I feel my depression lifting. I don't worry like I did. Now that I am working towards giving my life over to God, I feel that he has a plan for me.

Many of the previous posts refer to the same issues and a couple doubt the existence of miracles and why does God let awful things happen and where was God when I was drinking....All good questions and I can't pretend to have necessarily the right answers. When I began drinking, God was not a factor in my life. My very strict and devout religious upbringing and subsequent events turned me away but God does not just jump into your life...You must invite him in and be prepared to enter a relationship with him. One in which you pray, ask forgiveness and try to trust that he will help you in your life journey. It is not always easy when one is accustomed to making one's own decisions but the whole key to faith is that it is not by my Will, but by God's will and mercy that I am saved. The ultimate sacrifice that Jesus made is a gift that God gave us the freedom to choose.

Miracles that have been documented since the Old Testament of the Bible and continue to happen today. The very fact that no two snowflakes are alike and that no one has the same fingerprints is to me a sort of miracle. Unexplained recovery from illness or even death or the fact that two people did not get on a plane that crashed are miracles. God tells us that miracles are everywhere if we only look and not be so ready to consider coincidence as the reason. I consider it a true miracle that I walked away from alcohol the way I did and continue to be able to do because I have tried before on my own, without success.

Terrible things happen in the world and this is the work of Satan. Nothing delights him more than to thwart God in turning people away from God and towards evil and it is people who do such evil things to others. Earthquakes, and flooding, drought, famine. These are all factors of the world throughout time. Why? We don't know. Why does it seem that God can be so cruel? I don't know. I just know that since I began this journey, I no longer feel so alone.

Night, night. Those are my words of wisdom.....lol, for what they are worth but they come from my heart. In the morning, rejoice in the prospect of a new day and thank God for the blessings you have in your life.
 SurelyIamShirley
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Posted: 3/14/2019 10:19:56 PM
Doremi, in answer to your question in my short experience back on POF where I am looking for a partner in faith.

I can't say I've come across men's profiles that specify that they are seeking a woman of faith, but I have spoken to men who confess during conversation that it is important to them. One was seemingly a fraud. Another seemed genuine but unfortunately I was not attracted. A third believed in a higher power which to me is a bit of a cop-out. Can't we give the higher power a name?

I have no plans to start a war over my faith or even debate it but I may as someone suggested earlier, "wave it about like a flag" but it is new to me. I am excited about it and further....Christians are expected to 'witness' for Christ and by sharing my new faith, I think that is what I am doing. I don't wan't to be pushy or opinionated about it. I'm just sharing my joy in the experience. You can listen....or not.


As long as we realize we're all different and all most of us really want to do is live. And maybe, love one another in spite of our differences...


And God said that we are to love our neighbours as we love ourselves and "God so loved the world that he gave his only son".
 Seamist474
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Posted: 3/15/2019 8:39:11 AM
Have you tried Christian Mingle or any other Christian based sites.

Many on here aren't prepared to be "witnessed" to. Just sayin. Unless you're prepared to debate, discuss, argue the whole religious topic in its entirety.
 Clytemnestra
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Posted: 3/15/2019 11:20:51 AM
msg#121:
Christianity and POF - Can they be combined?
Message: Have you tried Christian Mingle or any other Christian based sites.

Many on here aren't prepared to be "witnessed" to. Just sayin. Unless you're prepared to debate, discuss, argue the whole religious topic in its entirety.


+1
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 3/15/2019 11:35:10 AM
Here is a combination of Christianity and POF...

Prayers to all the victims, their loved ones and community of the NZ Mosque terror attacks. These acts of terror should be recognized for what they are: the embodiment of evil, hate and cowardice.

The Goodness of Humanity will win.
 SurelyIamShirley
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Posted: 3/16/2019 1:34:09 PM
MR. I add my prayers to yours. Satan strikes again.

CLY. Those who do not wish to share in this thread are free to ignore it. I will not debate the existance of God or differing translations of the Bible. I have however appreciated your insights and support periodically throughout it.

DOREMI.
I got a message from a lady once and she said. "You are not religious? Does that mean you don't believe in God? According to her profile she was a devout Christian. And she contacted me first.
I answered back to her this..... Which one? Meaning which God should I be believing in.


I think the woman felt that you may have been ridiculing or discriminating against her for her religious beliefs.
I really don't know of any other religious denomination other that of Universal Christianity and Islamism that refer to their God as GOD although Muslims generally call him ALLAH also meaning God. It should be said however that God is not worshipped in the same way by Christians and Muslims.

As far as contacting you first? Why not? This is a dating site. Can a devout Christian woman not reach out to a man whose profile she feels a connection with? Does this somehow make her less a Christian?
 kavapaw22
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Posted: 3/17/2019 5:15:43 AM
Satan strikes again.

Yes blame evil on Satan. How easy. Since nothing can be done about Satan just ignore what's going on, rather than address the problems of extremism, in this case that of white supremacy and trump supporters.
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