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 richard233
Joined: 11/10/2006
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I think what is needed is a law requiring them to only show those people who can
actually respond to a message with another message. If this means they need to
let the ladies in for free, fine by me, but I have no interest paying for a site that
would require the person to pay to respond.

Advertising someone as a member when they have no real connection to site seems
like fraud to me.
 outofthedesert
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 227
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 4:03:51 PM
On one site, everyone of my 'matches' had not been active in weeks.
 udb82
Joined: 2/29/2008
Msg: 228
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 6:18:15 PM
Yes they are big time. If something is too good to be true then i dont think its true. There are various e-mail/screen scanning programs out there that on-line dating sites use. I work in I.T i have seen these programs. I had to program a dating website (proto-type) as part of a uni assignment which was quite funny looking back at it now. Also some of the pictures of people on websites are fake and false. They are professionally done and modified through computer graphics software. End of the day though they are a business and profits drive them not the pursit of helping people find love. Its a corporation behind these sites that use psychological tactics to lure people to pay. In other words they pray on people's emtions. Hmm another term for that is called "Marketing". Rockect science at its best lol.

Just my 2 cents worth (Australian cents which is about 1.9 american cents i believe at this stage of the market).
 kissable0325
Joined: 10/15/2007
Msg: 229
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/2/2008 7:08:49 PM
Does anyone have any information about SINGLES NET.COM?


I don't know about it being a scam, but they are the worst dating website I've ever used and I even paid for a year. Their search capabilities are laughable. You can only search by zipcode and the radius you put in is going to ignored by the system. You say 75 miles, you'll see results from up to 300 miles away. You can't search by anything else, but zipcode. No searching by smoker or non-smoker, drinker or non-drinker, photo or no-photo. You can't even specify an age range.

Also, their email system is the pits. They say that emails are held for thirty days. Yeah, right. Try three days if you're lucky. I've had emails disappear out of my mailbox within a day or two of receiving them.

And singlesnet.com seems to be a hotbed for all those lovely 26-year-old beauties from Nigeria that are just aching to spend the rest of their lives with you. All it will cost is a few hundred dollars for her sick mom, who just went into the hospital for an operation, or to pay the rent because the landlord is about to evict her and her "mum", or quite a few other scams.

I won't ever go back there. So, if you've seen my profile there and it says I've been on "within the last 3 days" don't believe it.
 kissable0325
Joined: 10/15/2007
Msg: 230
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Posted: 4/3/2008 2:23:17 AM

On one site, everyone of my 'matches' had not been active in weeks.


Try CyclingSingles.com. They don't even put that kind of notice on profiles and I haven't seen a new female profile in months. The one or two ladies on that site in my area haven't been on in months. No way I'm going to pay for a membership on a site like that
 outofthedesert
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 231
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Posted: 4/3/2008 3:42:18 AM
There is one for dancers also, but I did not find a partner there. They are rated by experience. I am a latin, ballroom, country, swing dancer and can't seem to find a partner on any of the sites. Guys, learn to dance, most women everywhere want a man who will dance. I hike, ride my bike and dance and nothing around here, not even an activity partner on the majority of the sites I checked.
 kissable0325
Joined: 10/15/2007
Msg: 232
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Posted: 4/3/2008 6:09:39 PM

There is one for dancers also, but I did not find a partner there. They are rated by experience. I am a latin, ballroom, country, swing dancer and can't seem to find a partner on any of the sites. Guys, learn to dance, most women everywhere want a man who will dance. I hike, ride my bike and dance and nothing around here, not even an activity partner on the majority of the sites I checked.


Yes, DancePartner.com is okay, but its pool of available contacts is quite limited. I've had some success in meeting women on that site, but nothing serious has developed.

You are a ballroom dancer and you like to ride your bike? If you didn't live 2000 miles away we would be perfect for each other.
 bassman1959
Joined: 2/23/2008
Msg: 233
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/3/2008 7:16:28 PM
I have tried several pay sites. I don't think any of them are scamming us. Some of the best women I have met came from " Singles.net" and "The Perfect Match" I have also tried "True" , Match.com and Yahoo. As well as a few free sites. I don't think any site works any better than the others. However, I was very impressed with Perfect Match. They do a search to make sure you are single. I never had any trouble with married women on that site.


The thing you need to do before you join a site is take a tour first. Find out if there are any people on the site that live close enough to you.
 Enigma252
Joined: 3/1/2008
Msg: 234
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Posted: 4/3/2008 8:14:44 PM
Some sites are scamming us, yes, totally, as there are no "laws" setting parameters on this commerce format. If I added up the hours I have wasted on all these website I could have finished a Master Degree from Harvard Extension School . .. . . . Unfortunately for us older folks who are not young and glamourous anymore we have few other resources unless we enjoy hanging out in bars, churches, or gambling facilities. Men don't chase me down the street anymore--but they use to! The worse scamming experience I had was on MillionaireMatch.com. I think the whole country of Nigeria contacted me with various photos that were obviously not the men behind the messages. Match.com will keep your profile posted even after you are in the grave and your will has been read, with the obitutary posted. I like POF. I would like to thank those who have contributed extensively to this particular blog.
 Timothy25
Joined: 12/22/2006
Msg: 235
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Posted: 4/14/2008 6:12:57 PM
Maybe more success with match.com and yahoo personals when they were free. I read some things about true.com in the online dating magazine and even on rip off report.
 gruvytune
Joined: 5/13/2007
Msg: 236
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/25/2008 2:11:11 AM
ok,
im certain now that i was scammed by realsexdates. got a couple of emails sent to me and of course cant see them till you pay, so i paid. and of course those were the last times to get any emails. the emails i got were within 2 days of signing up. all this activity just till you pay then all stops and no responses back from anyone.

I think yahoo personals did the same thing, got a few women who simply fall in love with you sending long winded emails. 2 of the women with similar themes. then when you want to see the person finally, got a story that she was in africa stranded by her betraying lover.

i'm about to figure out where to begin not just to get my money back but see if a class action or similar suit was filed. this cant be allowed to continue.,
anyone know of how to attack back?

T
 outofthedesert
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 237
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Posted: 4/25/2008 2:31:31 AM
Kissable, I thought so also.

I report all the 12th grade educated doctors in Nigera to admin on Match. The profiles get deleted. They are all named Kevin and living in Nigera doing research on women's GYN issues. I complained and got no results. It appears the same guy is doing all the profiles.
 outofthedesert
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 239
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Posted: 4/25/2008 3:04:04 AM
I'll admit, I was stupid and rejoined Match because I had 3 emails and was curious. Fortunately, I have the 6 month free if you don't find a match so it makes it a little easier. But as the above poster said, same people are on all the sites.
 to many cold ppl here
Joined: 1/15/2007
Msg: 240
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Posted: 4/25/2008 5:44:48 AM

are the pay sites scamming us


Well the way I see it.. anyone who charges a person to fix them up with someone is , in my opinion, is like providing an escort service. I dont believe it is right at all. IN fact there is laws against that sort of thing. But you cant make an argument out of it cause PEOPLE actually DO pay for stuff like that.

I dont know if they are THAT desperate or what not. But then if the people selling the product think these people are THAT desperate WAHOOOO MORE money in thier POCKET! Of course it is a SCAM, and the peopel that fall for it should take it as a valuable lesson!
 easyoneverything
Joined: 1/27/2008
Msg: 242
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Posted: 4/25/2008 8:46:00 AM
Huggybear thanks for the informative msg #20! I've always suspected much of what you've identified. I don't think a willingness to pay these corporations exhorbitant amounts of money makes you more serious about finding a partner; I think it just makes you gullible. I've been on match.com with some success in the past, but no more success than I'm having on POF. There are insincere people everywhere - here on POF and match and lavalife etc. It takes time to weed through the pond, and that's where POF is a definite advantage - it can take a year or more on match but every second counts, you might go ahead on that date because your subscription is running out and you don't want to renew. Here, no hurry - no worry. Maybe that is why some people lament the length of time people have been on POF without success - maybe they can afford to be more discerning without the clock ticking.
 to many cold ppl here
Joined: 1/15/2007
Msg: 243
are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 4/25/2008 11:41:08 AM

The guys I met were not very interesting, though, and half were lying about their age, claiming they were younger than they were.


If they were EVEN REAL men!!.. I know one particular Paid site. Well you pay if you want a "Gold Member"ship to be allowed to email and make first contact with someone else . Otherwise you can be free and not be able to contact anyone.. whic islike why even bother.

But back to the point there is all these Russian Ukranian Marriage scammers who use Stolen Credit cards.. to get a gold membership and then they email as many people as they can. Thier profiles all say they are like 29-30 years old and they give like a US state as thier location... But then when they email you they want you to email them back but they give you a RUSSIAN email address. hehe!.. Lame.. I know!!.. Whats even funnier is that when the site finds the credit cards they use are stolen.. the Profiles all seem to to be taken down in bunches heheh!

I guess the scammers figure they wll hit on the REAL gold members thinking they are paying money out of desperation so if they can pay for that then THEY are shure to be suckered in thier so called marrage scams! They basically hit them up for to send money for them to come to the states hehe!..

"HMM funny your profile says you WERE in the states?"...NO thats only where thier family lives and they want to be with thier family so they can be close to you! HEHE "So if your FAMILY is already in the U.S. then WHY not hit them up for money instead!! BYE! " hehehe

So I guess the point of it is .. the general percent of the scamming is NOT from the site itslef but the PEOPLE who take advantage of it for Illegal purposes!!
 Timothy25
Joined: 12/22/2006
Msg: 244
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Posted: 4/28/2008 2:49:25 PM
This is how I lost trust in pay sites. I might as well come back to yahoo personals and match.com.

There's this feature called report a concern if we suspect that there's something wrong. They might do that only because of complaints of con artsits that they get.
 karpkev
Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 245
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Posted: 5/18/2008 6:01:30 AM
I wrote this thread a while back,,haven't been on any pay sites for along time so I have no new info.
 HEATHKL
Joined: 1/18/2007
Msg: 246
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Posted: 5/18/2008 8:34:00 AM
got to be, they advertise having so many pretty young girls from where i live, that surely i should run across one of them at least once. and like ya say, u join, see hot gals, write to them, sometimes get a rresponse, most times not, and let your subscript expire, then come the e mails. k
 locario
Joined: 12/8/2007
Msg: 247
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Posted: 5/24/2008 10:02:14 AM
Possibly... (in answer to the OP, and the thread title question).

I say possibly because I've actually met and become friends with 2 people who I was matched with when I had a brief eHarmony membership several years ago. Since my initial eHarmony membership (in which I acted as the site advises, and communicated with EVERY MATCH through guided communication to open communication until it became clear that a) I wasn't interested or he was incompatible, or b) he wasn't interested or I was incompatible with him.) So, after a 3-mo eH membership in 2004, and another 3 month membership in 2006, I've communicated with or intially rejected (or been rejected by) about 420 matches. Out of that, 1 close friend who just isn't in the cards, romantically speaking, and 1 semi-close friend who probably will also never be a romantic partner. But I value both of those friendships, and they were definitely worth the $ I paid. BTW, I would NEVER pay the $50/mo that the site wants you to pay. I only responded to their "act now and pay only $14.95 per mo" type deals. And I never auto-renew.

Ironic, really, that one of those friends I made through eHarmony introduced me to PlentyOFFish, and my initial profile here, 2 years ago, resulted in many friends and many initial meetings, with one short-lived LTR (yes, another irony) resulting. When I came back to the site at the end of last year, my experience has been the same -- there are a lot of great people on this site.

I do know from personal experience that the "true dot com" site, even if they were not scamming people, per se, as I've heard alleged -- they certainly seemed to mislead people on a regular basis. I never paid for a membership there, but at the time I was a non-paying member, true let non-payers respond to the emails of payers. So, I had several dates from that site -- real-world meets. But, I did get a lot of "winks", which when I responded with a "hey, thanks for your interest, but I don't think we're compatible", many times I received a response saying "well, i've never even seen your profile, I thought YOU winked at ME. So, obviously the site was trying to stir up interest, all around.

A lot of free things in life are really quite valuable. And at least there's no chance to get scammed here -- we're all getting exactly what we paid for with this site!
 idyllwolf
Joined: 8/10/2007
Msg: 248
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:27:10 PM
i have lived in a small community of approximately 4000 for 20 years, the pay sites constantly send dozens of pics of beautful girls claiming they live in my town, being i work for a utility company and know everyone in my town, i know that not one of these girls lives there now or has lived there in the past 20 years.
 inJESUSname
Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 249
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Posted: 5/24/2008 3:57:10 PM
Anybody have anything on the site called Christian Mingles - i could tell ya some stories!!!!
 ismudgealot
Joined: 5/15/2008
Msg: 250
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Posted: 6/26/2008 4:39:46 PM
I agree that they are a scam for the most part.
I noticed it to with Eharmony and more so with true. com Eharmony is trying very hard to get me back
but I like this site the best so far 1. it's free. 2. it seems real at least so far. 3 people are sharing opinions
from both sides good or bad.
 paulofgroveton
Joined: 12/10/2010
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are the pay sites scamming us
Posted: 10/17/2011 9:46:32 AM
Would not know.Have never paid to belong to an e-mail sight. I still get more responces than I can handel(or want to) and I am short,old,and a little fat.Paying seems to me like being pimped with no guarenties(see I can't even spell)
 ala2010
Joined: 4/21/2010
Msg: 252
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:52:02 PM
Your right,that is the way they do........I been done that way.........They need throwed under the jail for doing that....I mean UNDER.Paid sites puts fake profiles on there of women so there are women there for men to pay to message.Free sites allows anyone to get on so sorry people puts up fake profiles for fu n,games.
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