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 Tarika
Joined: 8/30/2006
Msg: 562
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I don't like pot...I am actually allergic to weed. Furthermore, I wouldn't even go on one date with someone who tokes up.
 rederer1
Joined: 8/7/2006
Msg: 563
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 2:34:46 PM
I dunno, weed's not so bad. There are a ton of perscription drugs that are far worse. My moms friend is addicted to asprine. I can guarentee you that taking asprine all the time is far worse for ones health than pot. Valium, zoloft, ritalin, cough syrup. These things are all bad for your overall health but nobody cares about these things because they're legal.

I dont think any drugs should be illegal personally. If heroine was legal would you do it? The fact that a substance is illegal isn't what really prevents people from doing drugs. If someone wants to take meth and ruin their life I can advise them not to do it but who am I to say they can't do it?
 justme1202
Joined: 7/26/2006
Msg: 564
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 3:14:35 PM
To all the pot smokers out there,,,so at what age is it acceptable to let your children smoke pot???? another can of worms to be opened!!!!

This is not about our children its about wether One would sat a pot smoker.
 scoobywho
Joined: 9/3/2006
Msg: 565
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 7:10:03 PM
Pro choice amigo. To each their own. I know people who have family and friends, who are very close to them in their lives, who smoke but they refuse to have it involved as a dirrect part of their lives. They respect the fact that the others are adults who have the right to be as destructive to themselves but not for them. Some won't accept it based on the simple fact that it is illegal, duhhhh!
And then there are those who see it as no big deal. They don't smoke it but they don't judge anyone who does.
I say a long as it's not destructive to your life friendship or relationship. If it makes you happy be happy.
But I can tell you from experience: Nothing can make you higher then the love of someone special. So don't ever let that go for something like smoking pot.
peace out
 loveink
Joined: 3/5/2007
Msg: 566
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 8:59:30 PM
I don't care if a guy i'm dating smokes pot. i don't, but I can tolerate it. I'm not about to tell my bf that he's "not allowed" to smoke up. then i would feel like his mother.
 fierynette
Joined: 12/30/2006
Msg: 567
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 9:04:52 PM
I think it depends on how central to the smoker's life the weed is. I personally wouldn't want to be with someone who needed a lot of pot (or alcohol) to get by. I don't mind people who smoke or drink socially, and I have dated more than one. People who let weed smoking get in the way of life though... not for me.
 serenaoak
Joined: 1/31/2006
Msg: 568
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 11:04:18 PM
To all the pot smokers out there,,,so at what age is it acceptable to let your children smoke pot?


If they are over 21, self-supporting and out of the house, they can make their own decision, same as cigarettes and alcohol. I am not currently a smoker, nor do I have children, but that would be my position.
 Strollz
Joined: 3/1/2007
Msg: 569
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/18/2007 11:17:20 PM
F**k all ya pot haters! Its way better than drinkin, and I do that as well, but I've never met an angry stonner. Maybe a hungry one, or one that cant stop laughin. Someone wrote that they wouldnt sink as low to talk to a pot head? Good! We dont want ta deal with yer anti-pot s**t stories anyways. If ya tried it ya probably be alot different. Not that I have anything against non-"smokers" . I hang around alot that dont inhale. So to all ya weed haters. GO F**K YOURSELVES!
 janeyjohns
Joined: 12/31/2005
Msg: 570
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 12:15:32 AM
My brother started as a pot smoker at age 13 and has smoked forever now. His wife used to do it with him. He adopted her daughter and they had 3 more together.

She quit smoking and then she saw the problems more clearly. Her oldest at home was 11 at the time and she could and would roll joints for her dad. Of course she also used to change diapers and watch her younger siblings alot too. He lost his family once she quit toking and the smoke cloud moved away. She woke up from the fog and realized she didn't like the life she was in and moved on.

It may work when two people are both doing it but when one stops it will probably end. If children are involved, is it worth pointing them in that direction because like it or not we are the examples for them?

I for one have always said "do what you want, but live with your consequences". It's all a matter of choices. I just choose for you not to do it around me or my kids and not to have it on your "person" if you are in my vehicle or home.
 IHAVEAMIND
Joined: 3/5/2007
Msg: 571
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 12:19:51 AM
depends on what one considers excessive.
 Open Secret
Joined: 7/30/2006
Msg: 572
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 12:36:24 AM
If the other person does it once in a while to have fun and unwind then I think it is fine. I can't stand the vast majority of people I've met who base their lives around smoking it though because they are very boring IMHO.
 strats4
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 573
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 7:30:47 AM
I was wondering something,when I go to a bar and as the nite wears on and ppl get intoxicated and start talking bull, and some get aggressive and in somebodys face,from drinkin booze,is that an acceptable behavior,or the ones at 1 in the mornin so drunk they can hardly talk.and drowning there whatever with Booze.On the other hand someone who has a few puffs and at the end are still a functioning and love to go out and do stuff that isnt based in a bar setting,Now women which would you rather be with?Maybe some want someone who doesnt use anything,well good luck,This applys to both genders,and guess what one of the biggest turnoffs is a drunk
 oldsoul
Joined: 3/10/2007
Msg: 575
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:02:07 AM
Thank you , Raven1...you took the words right out my mouth....

How sad....
 oldsoul
Joined: 3/10/2007
Msg: 576
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:11:31 AM
[I know I'd much rather date or get to know someone who has a habit/hobby/belief that I don't particularly agree with than I would someone who would cast off another person based on just one aspect of their life!/]

And thank you Msusnicknel! There's nothing left for me to say....
 Survivalism
Joined: 3/9/2007
Msg: 579
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 9:54:08 PM
I absolutely cannot stand it, and, therefore, I won't even give druggies a chance, and it's for one simple reason. Potheads are the SINGLE most annoying people on the planet.


F**k all ya pot haters! Its way better than drinkin, and I do that as well, but I've never met an angry stonner. Maybe a hungry one, or one that cant stop laughin. Someone wrote that they wouldnt sink as low to talk to a pot head? Good! We dont want ta deal with yer anti-pot s**t stories anyways. If ya tried it ya probably be alot different. Not that I have anything against non-"smokers" . I hang around alot that dont inhale. So to all ya weed haters. GO F**K YOURSELVES!


I rest my case.
 sweetriver4
Joined: 2/15/2007
Msg: 581
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:15:06 PM
well i have to agree with strollz on that one me i have doing it sence i was 13 and hey i am still here and my brain is fine i still can read type and spell i am not fried and also just to ta let u know i dont drink much prefere to smoke put me in control and we r the best damn people to know so easy going and down to earth and we r not volient people who ever heard of one but u drink waht happens they go indian on u and i look at this way u dont like that i do it to f890king bad that what i am and i will change for now one take me as i am i will probaly die with a joint in my hand and hope to bury with one so that what i have to say so like lump it or fuxk urself tata for POT
 sweetriver4
Joined: 2/15/2007
Msg: 582
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 10:16:44 PM
well i have to agree with strollz on that one me i have doing it sence i was 13 and hey i am still here and my brain is fine i still can read type and spell i am not fried and also just to ta let u know i dont drink much prefere to smoke put me in control and we r the best damn people to know so easy going and down to earth and we r not volient people who ever heard of one but u drink waht happens they go indian on u and i look at this way u dont like that i do it to f890king bad that what i am and i will change for no one take me as i am i will probaly die with a joint in my hand and hope to bury with one so that what i have to say so like lump it or fuxk urself tata for POT
 aSydneyMale
Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 583
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/19/2007 11:28:55 PM
"....i have doing it sence i was 13 and hey i am still here and my brain is fine i still can read type and spell i am not fried..."

All evidence to the contrary Sweetriver....
 FairieSprite
Joined: 3/3/2007
Msg: 584
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 12:09:58 AM
People always have some opinion or another...I myself feel that the Super Sensitives of the world smoke weed...for instance-see how Raven reacts so sensitively to what that man is provoking in him. I see Raven as a sensitive...dont let him jerk your strings...He's trying to use you as his puppet-
J
 WonkaBar
Joined: 2/3/2006
Msg: 585
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 2:13:37 AM
And to those who say they couldn't date a person who smokes pot because it is illegal, would you refuse to date someone because they drove over the speed limit?


How much over we talking?

If someone I dated drives, say, five miles over I might not have a problem with it... but then again, five miles over the speed limit isn't going to get them thrown in jail if they get caught. Thirty miles over? Screw that, I'm not getting in the car with you, legal *or* illegal.


What about if they drove you home after having 2 beers (technically over the limit for most people/states)?


I will not get in the car with someone who's been drinking. That's what designated drivers are for - and since I don't drink much (if at all, and usually not socially) I'm often that safeguard.


How about a jaywalker **gasp**?


What are you, a crazy person? Next thing you know, you'll be littering!

Look, you're comparing things that result in a simple fine (oh noes, I lost some money!) to something that'll send someone to JAIL. Not only that, but something that *I* run the risk of going to jail WITH YOU for. If I'm in the car and you're speeding, I won't lose my license. If the cop finds a dime bag in the glovebox we're BOTH in trouble.

But the thing that cracks me up about potheads the most is...


Remember, if nobody ever broke the law, the U.S. would still be a part of great brittain, we'd still be owning slaves, and anyone who didn't actively participate in a strict Christian lifestyle could be burned at the stake. Blind ignorance to nonsensical laws is a primary step towards facism.


How they love to rant and rave on and on about how it's all a vast government conspiracy and they're some kind of freedom fighters sticking it to The Man by getting baked out of their minds. Hyperbolic, occasionally incoherent arguments and an intolerance for people who don't worship the ganj the same way they do - I mean, honestly... you expect me to tolerate your toking up but you won't tolerate my not wanting to have anything to do with it? Hypocrisy much?

Seriously. How you can even *think* of comparing destroying your brains with chemicals and the American revolution (or standing up to that mythical "fascism") in terms of political statements just boggles my mind. They're not even on the same planet, let alone in the same ballpark.

Here's a tip... you wanna get mary jane legalized, wearing potleaf baseball caps, ranting about textile industry conspiracies, and comparing the desire to get baked without being thrown in jail with a frickin' WAR is not going to get you taken seriously.

And since we're on the topic...


the U.S. would still be a part of great brittain


The declaration of independence from England was a political movement backed by force. It was no more "illegal" than any other war - especially since there was no United Nations back then.


we'd still be owning slaves


The Emancipation Proclamation was drafted by our government. Lincoln, if memory serves. How's that illegal, again?

Oh, and slavery wasn't legal in the north. That's one of the reasons we had that whole Civil War thing.


and anyone who didn't actively participate in a strict Christian lifestyle could be burned at the stake.


Separation of church and state as spelled out in the Constitution unless you're talking about the Inquisition, and that was the Catholic Church.

Methinks you spent a little too much time toking up in History class.
 atlast
Joined: 2/25/2007
Msg: 586
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 4:26:53 AM
Sure, why not? Screw the rent, go score a key! I don't do any of this stuff, but I'd rather have people driving around stoned than drunk. If you want to keep a drunk off the road, you are going to have a fight on your hands. If you want to keep someone from driving stoned, just order a pizza!
 NocturnalPrincess
Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 589
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 5:38:08 AM
Personally, I believe pot should be no more illegal than alcohol. Some people argue that it leads to heroin and meth use, but I disagree.
Nevertheless, regarding the question of the post, a lot of people do not smoke pot for various reasons. Career-wise, I have too much to lose to smoke pot myself or to associate myself with illegal activites.
I think in the short-term, such a relationship could work, but in the long-term it is a relationship that will ultimately fail, due to irreconcilable differences.
 Art Vandolay
Joined: 2/28/2007
Msg: 590
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 5:49:59 AM
I find that there are a 2 types of non-smokers. And these 2 types work for anything simillar. For example, non-drinkers.

The two types are:
Non-
Don't-

A Non-Smoker, is someone who doesn't smoke, and doesn't want anyone else too.
(aka Moral Pusher)
A Don't Smoker, is someone who doesn't smoke, but understands that you might not be the same as them.
(aka Normal Person)

So yes and no to the question. I would be really surprised if a NON could get along with someone who subscribes to what they are against. However, a DONT, should be wise enough not to judge based on what a person smokes.

(heated topic none the less, and yes I smoke both the green and the tobacco, and for those of you who judge me, shame on you! Look into your closets, what skeletons do you have hiding I wonder. What do you have that would make you, 'bad'.
 strats4
Joined: 10/21/2006
Msg: 593
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 7:33:38 AM
Hey after reading this I kinda think the Question shoulda been can Smokers handle ppl who drink in excess.Now that is Boring I agree with some ppl who said boozin and smokin together can really mess somebody up Things done in excess -no good ,Moderation Kool
 WonkaBar
Joined: 2/3/2006
Msg: 594
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 3/20/2007 2:11:15 PM
Wonka, man, I think you're drawing conclusions from my post that aren't warranted.


It's possible. I was rushing to get it typed before I fell asleep for the night.


I never said anyone should be forced or even encouraged to smoke pot. If you chose not to do it, then I, for one, am completely cool with that. I just don't think people should judge others based on one aspect of a their life, thats all.


Yep, you didn't say this part. I was speaking in more general terms before I moved on to your specific points. Sorry about that.


In regards to my comparing pot to speeding, DUI, and jaywalking, I think you missed my point. The point I was trying to make, is that I'm not willing to let an arbitrary government entity dictate morality to me.


Yea, but those things are not "Arbitrary" decisions made simply to annoy you. They're there to ensure the safety of motorists and pedestrians by mandating safe driving. If I blitz down the highway at a hundred miles an hour, I risk killing everyone in my car plus whoever I slam into when I misjudge a turn. If I jaywalk, I could become street pizza (especially when people disregard the speed limits.) Driving under the influence could also get people killed. The government didn't sit down one day and say "you know what? We're not making enough money off of parking fines. Let's outlaw speeding."


I WOULD advocate working to reform legislation that is nonsensical.


So would I. I'm pro-legalization and a number of my friends are pot smokers. I just don't see the current methods of raising public awareness working very well. For one thing, hazy and tenuous analogies. To wit;


As far as seeing the legalization effort as a "freedom fight," I certainly do.


(lots of other stuff snipped.)

Again, I am pro-legalization. Medical purposes? Go for it. Hemp? Love it. Make all the rope you want. I can't personally understand how cigarettes are on the market and joints are illegal. Makes no sense to me at all.


I absolutely see the legalization movement on the same level as any other quest for freedoms. Comparing it to the revolutionary war is entirerly appropriate.


Not even close. The impetus for the war for Independence was over taxes imposed by the English government on the colonies without the colonies consent, giving rise to the slogan "no taxation without representation." The colonies didn't care about the money - the taxes weren't even that high - but they did have a problem with having no control over their own economies... especially after having fought the French and Indian war on England's behalf.

Things got worse - vis a vis, the Boston Massacre.

I'm sorry if I don't *quite* see wanting to get baked on the same level as a country's political independence or the rights of individuals to not be shot by the army. But it's all relative, I suppose.

Still, we have a representative government in place now. So if you don't like the laws, by all means, lobby for them to get changed. I'm not against that - but you won't get anywhere saying that pot smokers are the equivalent of slaves.


Those freedom fighters were most definitely breaking the existing laws of the land at the time they committed their acts. Remember reading about the Boston Tea Party? Illegal. Killing the soldiers of the government? Illegal. Refusing to pay taxes to Brittain? Illegal.


See above. I do agree that one should protest and/or work to change laws that they don't agree with, but let's not kid ourselves, here. We're not even remotely on the same scale. And like I said, it was a war. Once you start talking about soldiers dying, the law of the land no longer really applies. I'm sure the US army killing Viet Cong was "illegal" according to the north Vietnamese government, too.


As far as owning slaves, the comparison again holds. There were different states with different laws, under a common federal government. Through a process of change (in that case, a violent process) a political change was made. How is that different from the states that have chosen to decriminalize, or allow medicinal?


It's different because you were advocating breaking the law in order to change the law (via protest), and slavery was not ended by the breaking of any laws. The Civil War was fought because the South seceded from the Union in protest over economic sanctions (sound familiar?) related to the plantations and, in part, their use of slaves. Once the war began, it was discovered that Union generals were not returning escaped slaves to their masters - not because said generals believed in the slaves' freedom, but because they considered them *war contraband*. Lincoln decided to use this to his advantage and drafted the Emancipation Proclamation, which later led to the 13th Amendment to the Constitution. There was no protest or disobedience involved in these acts; the first was done to gain support (Lincoln hoped freed slaves would join the Union army, which they did), and the latter enacted because a movement was started (not a protest) to finish the job.

None of which was done illegally.


The whole burning non-christians at the stake; remember the Salem witch trials episode? Again, the legal system of the day was used to persecute those with views different from the views of those in the "majority."


Not quite. The Salem witch trials weren't about religious persecution. Religion was used as an excuse. Analyses were done of many of those who were persecuted under said trials, and it was found that many of the accusations of witchcraft were either revenge based (the accuser didn't like the accused and so pointed the finger) or economically based (the accuser wanted the accused's land, or some such). It was never about systematic religious persecution, although it did help mask the issue.


Our political system purports to place an empahsis on the rights of the individual over the desires of the many, so again I ask, where's the difference?


The difference is, we don't execute jaywalkers. My point was, there are levels of offense. Obviously, possession of marijuana is a much higher level of offense in the eyes of the government than those who partake wish it to be. That's a valid concern on the part of those what partake. But you are not going to win me over to your side by comparing yourself to political prisoners or slaves.


I don't go around wearing pot-leaf hats, playing bongos, and singing kumbaya. But if I did, would that make my points any less valid?


Well, that depends. The rational people who say "I think the studies you based your decision to make pot illegal on are inaccurate. Here's new research explaining why", have my ear. The nuts who swear your brain is like a herd of buffalo do not.

The way I see it, is this. If you are so obsessed with pot that you feel the need to wear it on your clothes, print newspapers about it, champion "smoking a bowl" as the solution to all life's ills, and launch into a tirade about the criminalization being "a conspiracy" at the drop of a hat, it's going to make me wonder about your ability to discuss the issue rationally and impartially. People have, on a few rare (*snicker*) occasions, bent a fact or two in order to further their own agendas on any topic. Heck, if you listen to some pot activitists, the folks who made the stuff illegal did it by doctoring tests and using flawed research. So why wouldn't someone so passionate about legalization do likewise? Am I to assume their intentions are all innocent and pure simply because it's not The Ebil Government, and they're not just really, really keen on being allowed to get stoned at will, using all the purported medical benefits as a smokescreen, to use a pun? We won't even go into the fact that I would wonder how firmly grounded in reality someone who professed to snorf hallucinogenics on a recreational basis would be.

I respect your views, sir, and would fight to the death for you to be able to have them.


And I yours.


But how can you judge otherwise rational, intelligent adults based on one specific area of their lives?


The real question is, do those rational, intelligent partakers of marijuana outnumber the burnt-out nuts that live in their mom's basement and watch Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle for all eternity? I don't know the answer, but I have run into more people like sweet river up there, who swears up and down pot didn't fry her brain while being unable to spell two words correctly in sequence, than I have the former. That's not exactly making me jump on the "pot is harmless" bandwagon.


Personally, I think blind intolerance of personal choice is much more dangerous to American society than a plant with mild hallucinogenic properties.


The question is, where do we draw the line on choice? Is it my choice to drive drunk or to jaywalk? Is it my choice to snort Drain-O?


Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. This wasn't originally about legalization, but I just want people to think, be honest, and at least consider that there might be the possibility that there may be views other than their own. Then make an educated, informed decision and allow others to do the same.


Amen. Be informed.
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