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Joined: 4/29/2006
Msg: 427
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 12/24/2006 12:11:03 PM
I have to agree with "undercover blonde".....I prefer not to be around it and will not date someone that uses it.

If it is a regular habit then the answer would be NO!! I don't even have friends like that (that I'm aware of). I couldn't stand watching someone I care about wasting away their brain cells like that. I agree with kuddlebum, msg #5, that if it was done once in awhile, then I would take it as a sign of good willpower and don't believe it would bother me very much. Depends on the relationship.
Joined: 6/25/2005
Msg: 428
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Posted: 12/24/2006 12:40:14 PM
Aspirin is attributed to over 500 deaths a year. Marijuana-0. It is the most harmless "Drug" in the world. I DO, however, have a problem with women that abuse FOOD. Obesity KILLS people. Even mild obesity contributes to diabetes and other complications, not to mention how the person looks or feels.
Joined: 6/17/2006
Msg: 429
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 12/24/2006 12:44:10 PM
But now, answer this. Was the pot prescribed by a licensed physcian.
nickname for this is 'wheelchair weed' due to it being readily prescribed to MS patients, also, this is much stronger than street weed. Mainly because it is government grown, as a pain killer and as such has a higher HTC (?) level. I'ld look up the actually chemical compound and initials, I'm just too lazy, but you get the idea.
If not, why didnt he prescribe it.
How many years of medical school did you personally attend that qualifies you to prescribe any medical treatment. And finally, there are many many many holistic medicines. Bee stings, for accute artheritis, willow bark in tea for inflamation, so with all the leagally available holistics, why do you choose an illeagle, contraband substance for 'valid medical reasons' MS patients smoke pot for not only pain, but it makes them less 'spastic' (think of a full body charlie horse) and it is leagally prescribed, and they have a medical certificate to purchase, carry and use it.

I have no problems putting these questions on the table here, as I lived with someone who smoked pot on a regular basis. I've known this person for over 6 years now, and she has been on numerous meds for pain, after a major car accident, but in all those years, with all the meds she has taken, she never once said she smoked pot for any other reason than to get stoned because she liked it. I would far from call her a lazy stoner though, seeing her standing on her feet 8 to 12 hours, in total agony, because she took a job as cashier rather than accept income assistance.
So please, unless you have a 'script, with all the other choices available, don't go crying I need to be stoned, poor little me, I need pot to live. Fact is, you want the pot, you want to get stoned, you want to be stoned, and the fact that when you are stoned you dont feel the pain as much is a side effect and a crutch, to justify being an addict in your own mind. I read your post, and I do truely admire alot about you, single woman, building and running 2 businesses, and I admire that you put pot after the business, and didnt lose them because of a habit, or addiction. I admire that yes, you are in pain and still get done what you need to do to take care of business. And I would even respect that if you chose to smoke pot recreationally, that it is your choice to make. I'ld even respect that you chose to smoke pot for the simple reason that you choose to do it. Just not the way you try to justify the use of pot to yourself. I dont need convincing, nobody here needs convincing, I am sure that not many (here, on pof) care if you smoke pot or not for whatever your reason or lack of, the only one that actually needs the convincing is you. I see so many people, so so much worse off than you, in so much pain that i cant even comprehend it. Who, even though the doctors have repeated suggested medical mj as a treatment, refused it. Opting for pills, shots, therapy, or to just do without anything and suffer through the pain day in and day out.
I smoke ciggarettes. I do it because I want to do it. I choose to smoke, for no other reason than that i want to. I want to quit too, just not as much as I want to smoke, yet. But the day I hear the words, Gary, I'm preggy, thats the second I become a non smoker, cold turkey. Which again, is my choice and mine to make.
Point is, if you dont have a script, and you are justifying the pot, and it would be to nobody but yourself that you are justifying it, It would seem that you dont like something about doing it that you need to feel justified. Correct? Hmm?
Personally it doesnt affect me at all if you do or do not do pot. So why even post this reply? Just for two reasons. First, to give you something to think about. I dont care if you are calling me every dirty name in the book, nor do I really care much if ppl reading this think i am a proper... *coffs* for saying this, in the manner I did. Secondly, and more importantly, I posted this so that others would see that pot is a choice, not a solution. Even when prescribed it is not a solution, only a treatment for an uncurrable condition. Rather like giving a person dying of scorosis of the liver whiskey 24/7 as a medical treatment. From experiance in helping a chemically addicted friend of mine, a close friend since childhood, I know the first step in dealing with an addiction is to admit it is an addiction. The first step to that is to remove the justification and show the addiction for what it is, a personal choice, to continue or show moxy and not continue. My friend liked the dope, he just didnt like who he was on the dope or who he had become because of it. I know that if he were typing this, he would be literally begging anyone that had not tried it not to, especially the kids. Thats his biggest heartbreak, kids addicted to drugs and or alcohol, as he was one, and lives the consequences every day. I only see them 2nd hand. And for that i am thankful.
Joined: 6/17/2006
Msg: 430
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Posted: 12/24/2006 1:03:18 PM
Very nice unqualified stats there. 500 vs 0 eh? Ok, so what percentage of the world population smokes pot as compared to what percentage taking asperin?
Next, pot being the 'kiddie drug' what you start off on, (how many crack addicts started out on crack?) how many have OD'd on these drugs they have worked thier way up to from pot.
How many people have driven stoned, and how many children have died because of it? Or how many people in general. Pot is the same as alcohol in that it is a mind altering drug. It affects vision, judgement, and reflexes. So before saying asperin contributes to 500 deaths and pot to 0, maybe we should take a look at your definition of contributing. I will conceed that pot has caused 0 deaths world wide, it is the idiot behind the wheel on pot that causes the deaths. If an addict ODs on crack and dies, it is the crack that killed him, not the pot, the pot just pointed him down the path and opened the doors to make the crack easier to get. Do you for one minute suppose that any pot dealer cant tell you where to get crack, and tell the crack dealer that you are ok to sell it to?
This one i am responding to only because i am bored. The only comment i will make to the women addicted to food, is I would rather be with a woman who was 'cuddley' and know i was with her, and making love to her and she to me, than to be F****** some chick who is so wasted she dont know who she is with or who cant feel anything beyond the buzz. (go ahead, say pot intensifies sex. I need a laugh. Just like i laughed at the guy I was boarding with, who paid $100 for a 'date' even though he was stoned and couldnt get it up.)
Joined: 6/25/2005
Msg: 431
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 12/24/2006 1:12:08 PM
Are we talking about marijuana or crack? Alcohol is the gateway drug you should be worrying about. Why don't we hear about "pot drivers" like we do "drunk drivers"?
Joined: 7/31/2005
Msg: 432
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Posted: 12/24/2006 1:18:02 PM
hahaha, i response to dragon42nb.
i guess you have never heard of the failed crops by goverment in which millions were wasted in failed medical crops which produced thc counts in the single digits.
and as far as medical use it has many, migraines, arthritis, ms, aids/hiv.
inhibits pain centeres, eleviates pain and increases the desire to eat( as how it is used in regards to aids patients. )
and as far as all drugs are concerned i have a real problem with those who use it and abuse it.
caffene, pescrption pills pot and the rest of the trash can converting substances.
as a side defens to those who smoke pot. i have a few friends who do ( i live i B.C )
i am yet to see a pot head get violent. dont know how many ppl ive seen just freak if they dont get there regular morning doubel expersso.
Joined: 12/6/2006
Msg: 433
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Posted: 12/25/2006 2:48:08 AM
I smoke two joints in the morning.

I smoke two joints at night.

I smoke two joints in the afternoon, it makes me feel alright

I smoke two joints in time of peace, and two in time of war

I smoke two joints before I smoke two joints,

And then I smoke two more
Joined: 8/30/2006
Msg: 434
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 12/25/2006 6:39:16 AM
furthermore, Montel Williams has started a campaign to legalize the herb....

it should just be decriminalized.....................
Joined: 1/1/2006
Msg: 435
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Posted: 12/25/2006 7:06:26 PM
Ask and you shall receive....

Pot will be legal in more places as it has already been legalized/decriminalized in various locations in USA.

I really have never dated someone who has never or does not chill out and smoke sometimes.... I am still in my twenties so that might be a factor. I have seen from people I know where there are many different situations that exist on how couples feel about it.

Most cases its the guy who smokes and the girl who doesnt anymore/does occasionally... and then those that never do but criticizes/never does but allows it. It is obviously easiest and what I think is best to find someone who is as close to the same in their wanting to smoke. Their is no need to jeopardize a relationship over such things if one person is angered by it. It is further worse to constantly be going behind someones back.

In Defense of Smokers -It is really kinda unfair to judge someone about what they do if they are responsible and take care of their lives as well. I would have to say there are much more sad stories from drinking related issues than pot ever will. To me - drinking can ruin lives whereas pot has a completely different effect. Drinking/Cigarettes often goes uncriticized when it leads to thousands of deaths and cancer patients per year...pot a total of ZERO. Check the studies people I am not lying.

Things you SHOULD be concerned about if your partner is a smoker:

1. Do they do this before work/other important events? Before spending time with kids?
2. Are they still able to maintain the responsibilities of the house/apartment and most importantly their own health?

Those are pretty important to me. I dont know how much we are talking about even smoking so its hard to make a comment on that but just in general. If someone is taking a toke here toke there at reasonable times... come on people. If it is like bongs every weekday I think we have another case.

If you have a partner that is of concern from this topic, please post it and we will give you our opinion. But really, this topic to me is a case by case basis and its hard to sum it up in general other than....

If you hate how pot makes your significant other act or how it effects their lives and people around them....see if they will stop or do it less cause you ask them to - and if not DUMP THEM.
Joined: 1/2/2006
Msg: 436
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Posted: 12/25/2006 11:57:27 PM
I don't typically date girls who smoke at all.

Girls who smoke pot or take other illegal drugs, I stay away from as I don't want to be around it.
Joined: 6/17/2006
Msg: 437
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Posted: 1/6/2007 1:26:50 PM
reply to post by robz we are talking marijuana.
Read my recently updated profile. I do know first hand about this topic.
This girl smoked grass from the first day i met her, which i accepted as her choice.
It was not the marijuana that killed her, and I highly doubt she used needles, but I am almost 97% certian, knowing her as well as i do, that she used leagle drugs as a replacement for needles, as not only a pain killer but as an excape from reality. She may have started needles or snorthing hard drugs near the end, but if so it was only within the last month of her life, and as i said, i would be highly unlikely. My educated guess, is she got one to many beatings, and turned to drugs harsher than pot to blot the pain and make it go away, and took just a little to much. I know is was not intentional, the girl was terrified of death, more than anything.

I was also unaware that this thread was about government spending or waste. I thought it was about non pot smokers handling being in a relationship with pot smokers. And as I believe, if it is a healthy relationship, a good relationship, then it is very beneficial to the pot smoker, as if they are in this kind of relationship, they just simpley smoke less. Or to my experiance with the girl I mention in my profile, she smoked less.

Alcohol is a different topic altogether. As a rule, Alcoholics are alcoholics, they aren't generally speaking drug addicts too. I've known a few alcoholics, none of which used drugs. I've knows some drug addicts, most of who used alcohol but were not addicted to it.

and finally, it is not termed "drunk drivers" the term is "DWI-Driving While Impaired" which includes a large number of substances, alcohol being only one.
Joined: 8/4/2006
Msg: 438
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Posted: 1/6/2007 3:56:43 PM
I don't see why not. I cannot drink alcohol because i have an allergic reaction to it. I do smoke weed however. I do not have a problem with a person drinking or smoking pot; frankly, I prefer being with the pot smoker, as creates a mellow mood, connection. People often become more abrasive when drinking alcohol al well.javascript:smilie('')
Joined: 7/22/2006
Msg: 439
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Posted: 1/6/2007 4:11:56 PM
i had a very good online friend who had one son die from drugs, another in and out of rehab for drugs...addiction ran in the family ...i have one letter from the rehab son where he gives his entire story, beginning with pot and moving on to heavier drugs...this is not the case of every pot smoker...but it does happen

i just reunited with a guy i dated three years ago...he is heavily into smoking pot...i didn't know this before, he only informed me of it now...he sounds stoned all the time, and even though he is intelligent, you wouldn't know that if you had a simple conversation with him, only in a longer deeper one would u see he does have a brain in there, although clouded...he told me he'd been smoking it since he was 12 years old and was not about to give it up....he looks horrible now, washed three years, he has gone so was sad because he was such a hottie when we dated before...he got kicked out of the military, and works for minimum wage now and does odd jobs, yet all his money goes to getting stoned...he wanted to continue to see me now...but i told him, it's not my thing...and i dont wish to be around it...
Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 440
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Posted: 1/6/2007 4:12:56 PM
Then everybody needs to say they use drugs.. Cause everyone has there drug of choice, EVERYONE. But some of them want to keep anyone else from having theres... Its all about your definition of a drug.. And webster says the whole damn world is on em.. So put that in ur pipe and smoke it lol.
Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 441
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Posted: 1/6/2007 4:18:45 PM
then pass it here lol
Joined: 7/31/2005
Msg: 442
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Posted: 1/6/2007 6:33:06 PM
belly18dancer. you claim that pot was the gateway drug which lead your friends into heavier and more destructive substances. could you be wrong. is it possibel that it was poor choices and even more likeley that alachol had a part to play.
scientefic surveys have shown time and time again that alachol leads to other substances.
recent study of teens and young 20 somethings has shown a direct and starteling link between regular alachol consumption and cigarette smoking.
but alachol is ok right. my goverment told me so. hahaha. aint that the same ppl who are telling us how we may lead our lives. the only reason pot is illegal is because the hemp industry was a direct threat to the cotton industry in was time when they were a direct competetor for military contracts. stronger, more durable, and on par for cost, just had a link with something that people associated with lazy, unmotivated youths.
humanity has always shunned what they dont know or understand.
the only real thing standing in the way of legalization of marijuana is the finer points of marketing and pricing and the avaibility of a roadside test for consumption and intoxication of it.
and one again i say i would rather deal with my most stoned friend than one who is half drunk.
dont agree, talk to a bouncer at a club and ask for there opinion on the subject. they know best of all since they deal with intoxicated people as part of there job.
and as a final note a question for all have you ever done something you regerted later when you were drunk? bet you have.
in closing if you dont want to be around people who smoke pot thats fine i myself choose not to be around people who are judgemental and assume that they know whats best for all.
Joined: 10/24/2006
Msg: 443
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Posted: 1/6/2007 6:35:24 PM
NO WE CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Harry Peter
Joined: 12/25/2006
Msg: 444
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 1/6/2007 6:38:40 PM
Pot smokers are easy to handle usually. They lack energy and stuff.
Joined: 12/25/2006
Msg: 445
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Posted: 1/6/2007 6:53:22 PM

I couldn't date someone who doesn't take care of their body, and I don't want a potential mental case in the future from a partner who smokes pot.

I wouldn't even date a cigarette smoker, who wants bad breath, leathery skin, future health problems in a partner.
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 446
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Posted: 1/6/2007 7:01:33 PM
WOW interesting debate!!

I have a number of points on this as follows:
Never judge something/someone til you've tried it yourself/til you have some knowledge on the topic yourself ie walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me.
Hence I am not against anyone trying anything once or a few times in their life bar the odd extreme exceptions such as the obvious completely wrong things like murder, rape etc.
But in general...

As my mother has always said to me: Everything in moderation. Simple statement but I have held it close to me to this day.

I have had chance to be witness to at least 3 substances that when a boyfriend or someone close to me took them in excess I could see the obvious negative effects.

When i was 17 my boyfriend took a lot of extasy. I witness how this affected his everyday way of being such as biting people in the shoulder! I was young and naieve and what i was ever doing with this guy I do not know!

A friend of mine is a bit bi polar and when she still lived here she would often get herself drunk and go completely wacky. Luckily she has moved away to a place where she is currently leading a happy life.

My current boyfriend smokes pot everyday. Again i have no issues with people doing something now and then but whilst at first i didn;t mind my boyfriend's now bugging me more and more by the day. When he doesn't have it he gets moody and I hate the fact that actually looking back I fell in love with a pothead as opposed to the man I see when he's sober! Eg things like his smile..which obviously you do a lot of when stoned...

I went through a patch there where i was taking a drag from him everyday and in october/november I hit a major dip. Granted I had some major stress in my life including my job but I think some of it was linked to smoking...I've had this happen to me in the past when I was about 18.

Oh yeah last pt and a big one -I DEFINATELY would prefer a regular pot smoker to a regular alchohol smoker!! Alchohol as other people have pointed out can cause people to be violent and it just leads to annoying behaviour whereas marihuana just makes people chilled...WHY alchohol is socially acceptable and pot isn't is beyond me!

Everything in moderation but not in excess!
Joined: 10/10/2004
Msg: 447
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Posted: 1/6/2007 7:08:04 PM

Your post really really touches me because I feel my relationship with my boyfriend is being affected by pot. I feel it's causing his sex drive to be next to nothing and that it's causing him to prefer watching tv, playing playstation and falling asleep on the couch most nights rather than sleep with me!!!!

Ie I feel I am taking second place!
Joined: 4/3/2006
Msg: 448
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Posted: 1/6/2007 7:15:24 PM

it can cause problems in a relationship...but then so can many other factors...
i love the smell of the buds and have fond memories of when i used to smoke it.
Joined: 12/1/2006
Msg: 449
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Posted: 1/10/2007 9:25:01 AM
honestly, my dear .. i think you've watched too many Cheech & Chong movies.

The people you should be naming in the above attack are the gluttunous, the inconsiderate ... all of whom i bet were like that before Mary J even came around. The munchies don't attack every person, only those who are already prone to a drop in their blood pressure, for different reasons. The stupidity? well....i must say that i've met imbecils from every race, ethniticity, and lifestyle -- so again, i would say that you're being lead by the media.

I am hemp-friendly -- i also bike, do yoga, write, play music...amongst many other things. Based on your recent post, i'm sure you will have some pool of misconceptions to throw me into as well.
Joined: 8/22/2006
Msg: 450
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Posted: 1/10/2007 9:43:44 AM
ummmm....NO. Can't stand cigarettes, the smoke from them or the stench--why be around pot? And associate with a pot-head? NO.

And please, do not even bring up the whole "medicinal purpose" issue-- that is not part of the original question.

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