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 jim_in_PC
Joined: 7/26/2007
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Interesting topic, I skimmed through it and thought I would share my thoughts.

I dont have a problem with people that do drugs, I have a problem with people that abuse them. People that use to the point of addiction, or let it affect their life are going nowhere. I wont waste my time dating someone that cannot control their demons, no matter if its their need to do drugs to excess, drink to excess, abuse others, or cannot show respect. How can someone that abuses anything or anyone be a happy, well adjusted person?
 libbyv
Joined: 8/17/2005
Msg: 877
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/4/2007 12:37:01 PM
I had an ex boyfriend who smokes drugs and I am not impressed. He is short tempered and abuses his driving privaleges by getting behind the wheel when he is high. And speeds regularly. I hope the police nail him for it. Because somebody could get hurt with this guy driving on the road. This person is very disrespectful towards others.
 Alzena
Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 878
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/4/2007 12:45:05 PM
I live in the good old us of a and pot is still illegal...and I like to be employed...
 hotrebeccainmesa
Joined: 7/21/2007
Msg: 879
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/4/2007 2:27:20 PM
"can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?"
I've got a one word answer for you based on my own experience: NO
 nona36
Joined: 7/30/2007
Msg: 880
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/5/2007 4:51:27 AM
I'm actually impressed to see so many people who are anti-drug. No matter how you sugarcoat it, drugs are drugs, even if it is for "medical" purposes. I feel that people who do drugs period are apt to do progress from there, it's not worth it and a TRUE TURN-OFF!!
 wrecklessjeremy
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 881
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/8/2007 1:53:27 PM
it's not a good idea to mix the two of us...
 BeautifulNitemare
Joined: 2/22/2007
Msg: 882
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Posted: 8/9/2007 3:57:06 AM
OP - I think it all depends on the two individuals. Personally I could handle it since my experience has been that the smokers I know are also the friendliest, humane, thoughtful people I know.
 dooly
Joined: 8/7/2007
Msg: 883
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/11/2007 12:18:55 AM
I strongly dislike all the comparisons of pot smoking to the consumption of alcohol.
The 2 have profoundly different effects than one another, and problems can arise from the usage of both.
I will say though that I dislike being around 'regular' pot smokers because they are just plain old boring.
I also feel that people that drink daily are just as unappealing, but in other ways.
Living in BC it is next to impossible to find a happy medium of someone who truly uses both substances as occasional recreation, and that is sad.
 joebobbriggs
Joined: 7/31/2007
Msg: 884
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/11/2007 5:47:15 AM
The question should be:

Can people with non-addictive personalities deal with people who have addictive personalties?

JoeBob
 Xianleather
Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 885
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Posted: 8/11/2007 5:53:40 AM
I dont mind the smell, but its the change in personality that bothers me. I avoid it in a g/f...
 marotoo
Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 8/11/2007 6:26:56 AM
this is another addiction, and to me it spells dependancy..I,m interested in people who have a will power..not to mention the dirty sock smell it is foul..so NO I would not!!
 Karen5
Joined: 4/11/2007
Msg: 887
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/11/2007 7:12:53 AM
The question should be:

Can people with non-addictive personalities deal with people who have addictive personalties?

JoeBob


Yes, I like this question better. The thing is, I have an addictive personality but don't indulge it with pot, alcohol, caffeine, or a variety of other substances. However, I've got this food/sugar addiction and that's mind/mood altering too. So, I've found that I can relate very well to people with drug habits - and often times, their use of recreational drugs is healthier than my use of food.

I'll get back to you with the answer of whether I'm able to deal with people with non-addictive personalities. I've met very few (if I've met any at all). Just about everyone I know has some kind of addiction going on - whether it's exercise, miserable feelings, hatred of the opposite gender, television, the computer, POF forums, etc.
 Ready For More Fun
Joined: 7/7/2007
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Posted: 8/11/2007 8:56:07 AM
I know I’m not interested in being around people who smoke; I just can’t handle people being stupid.

But I wonder if what my former hard drinking, pot smoker son would say. He came home to stay with me for a while after his wife filed for divorce, totally blindsiding him. He got off the plane drunk and high and wasn’t sober for weeks. He finally went into rehab. It was great while he was there. Once he got out of rehab, he went to AA once a week. But all his old friends still drank and got high. In order to hang out with them, he tried to “socially” drink and smoke pot. He soon fell back into getting drunk and getting high with these buddies. He realized he wanted more for himself then weekends of wasting of his life. He returned to AA and stopped drinking…but still smoked. Again, he tried to socially smoke… but this soon interfered with his staying sober as well. “It lowers my resistance to alcohol.” It was a huge decision… gives up smoking and being around his friends who did or… his sobriety. His mellow friends and drinking buddies, most who he had know since childhood only wanted birds of a feather; therefore tried to get him to “party” with them. I think these buddies calling stoned and drunk helped him see more than anything to see what a sad waste this was. So sobriety meant losing most… if not all of these buddies. He said, “F--- them, I’ve got a whole new group of friends.” It's been very long road. He now goes to AA several times a week and I don't think he's very been happier.

So I asked him the question…. can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers? His response was, "Why would you bother?"

It you go to slippery place you’re going to slip.

..............
 luckych4rm
Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 889
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/11/2007 5:24:02 PM
I can understand if someone does not want to be around someone who is currently smoking marijuana if they have problems with the smell. However, anyone who will not go out with you because you use cannabis is narrow minded and not worth having around.

Usually these prejudice types are hypocritical prohibitionists who either smoke tobacco, or drink coffee and/or alcohol, yet cannabis is not physically addictive and there is no scientific or statistical evidence to indicate there are any serious or long physical/mental health problems associated with smoking, vaporizing or eating it.

For example, the following people will not go out with someone who uses cannabis, but they think physically addictive toxic substances which can damage your health and kill you are somehow more acceptable.

nona36 - opposes marijuana, yet smokes cigarettes and drink alcohol

Little Mrs Forlorn - another person against pot who smokes tobacco and drinks alcohol. She also claims to have been hospitalized for second hand smoke inhalation after going camping with someone who smokes pot. A cigarette smoker being hospitalized because of second hand pot smoke on a camping trip? If a doctor really suggested that was it (and you did not just make it up) you need a new doctor.

hotrebeccainmesa - would not consider a social pot smoker, but is a social boozer herself
 Searching for love
Joined: 6/24/2007
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Posted: 8/11/2007 6:11:41 PM
WELL I THINK THAT IF YOU DRINK IT'S A DRUG TOO. POT IS A PLANT IT;S USED FOR DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS CLOTHES, ROPE, AND PAPER HELL THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN ON IT, OR SCRIPTURES. IT WAS HERE FOR SOME REASON AND IF MAN DISCOVERED IT HAS BENIFITS WELL SO BE IT. THE ONLY REASON IT IS ILLEGAL IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY (WE WERE WRONG) , THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT THE WAR . PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING THE POLICE , OR GOVENMENT TELLS YOU. FIND OUT THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. THE ONLY REASON IT WAS MADE ILLEGAL WAS TO KEEP OUT THE MEXICAN PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO THE U.S. IN THE 1920'S. AND ALSO YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE OVER DOSEING , ALL THAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET SLEEPY AND WHEN YOU WAKE , YOUR HUNGRY. ALCOHOL KILLS MORE BRAIN CELLS BUT IT;S OKAY. AS LONG AS YOU RULE IT AND IT DON'T RULE YOU. HELL I KNOW COPS, JUDGES, LAWYER , DOCTORS AND OF SOME PEOPLE YOU THINK THAT DOESN'T DO IT. WELL THEY DO I HAVE SEEN IT. AND I HAVE SMOKED , AND IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
 luckych4rm
Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 891
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Posted: 8/11/2007 6:29:59 PM
Trying Again 45

THE ONLY REASON IT IS ILLEGAL IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY (WE WERE WRONG)

That is a small part of it. It may somehow implicate them in class action lawsuits for the continued persecution of cannabis users. For example, the Church of the Uniserve is sueing the Canadian government for 14 million dollars because of religious and spirtual oppression caused by the unjust prohibition of cannabis.

However the main idea behind the US War on Drugs today is to create a black market in order to inflate the price. That way you have a product which would normally be as cheap as lettuce and tomatoes become worth its weight in gold. The annual black market for all drugs combined is over $600,000,000,000 USD anually. Who do you think is getting a sweet chunk of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contra%27s_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#U.S._government_reports_admit_cocaine_trafficking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#U.S.-sponsored_heroin_production_and_smuggling

Gee it looks like the same government "protecting us" from the evil cannabis also smuggles cocaine and heroin into its own country. Hmmm.

Prohibition is a harm to our society and *I* personally would not date someone who failed to recognize this because obviously they are not an independent or deep thinker. People from the hysterical sheep-like masses simply do not do it for me.

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." --Albert Einstein
 laine121
Joined: 6/19/2007
Msg: 892
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Posted: 8/11/2007 8:35:32 PM
I don't mind if my friends smoke. But I would not date a pot smoker. Or a drunk.
 Kell.
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 893
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Posted: 8/12/2007 1:16:50 AM
This is posted in reply to Annica. I think that marijuana is not the cause of these kids in your hospital with psychosis.... some perhaps. I'll keep this one short.
Do you not think it is possible that these cases are not a condition or result of our society today. There weren't kids toting guns around to school either when I was young and I hope people don't blame that on smoking joints.
One last thing as well I have been a proud advocate for the use of marijuana for a long time 12 years or so. I have never hallucinated from it though.
For everyone else I think its this simple, if you don't like it don't date someone that does it. If you do like it to each their own. If you have no opinion well then your free to date whoever you want. Personally I don't date girls that drink a lot or go clubbing like 5 nights a week. It all boils down to personal preference.
Thanks Kell.
 billethekidd
Joined: 6/25/2005
Msg: 894
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Posted: 8/12/2007 1:49:20 AM
what an infantile.... pot is for "kids" who never grew up to see what life really is... its a cop out an excuse to not live... been there done that, so dont tell me i dont know, worse yet i see it in my kids
 Isispriest
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 895
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Posted: 8/12/2007 2:19:57 AM
Folks that smoke pot usually have a lack of repect for Laws. Pot heads generally lean towards technocracy (no government interference in people's lives) or left wing or anarchy politically. With the common thread being we do not respect our governments or economic system.

The odd thing to me is that in "the home of the free" a kid has to have a urine test to work at the Subway. When in Canada the courts have said that banks do not have the right to urine test their employees, because it is none of the employer's business what an employee does off work hours. Though there is drug testing allowed in Canada for workers with trains, planes, and trucking.
 luckych4rm
Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 896
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 8/12/2007 4:24:59 AM
foxfiresw

Even after a heart attack at 28 , he stood outside the hospital and lit up!

Cannabis increases the heart rate to the same extent as mild exercise for about an hour after smoking, so it sounds to me like his heart was in bad shape. Your ex-boyfriend smoking pot right after his heart attack is not much different than going for a jog right after. It sounds to me like he is not all there to begin with.

This leads me to the mental health, or "psychosis" reefer madness issue, since someone else brought it up. Yes, you can find statistics which show more mental illness among the cannabis-using population than the non-cannabis-using population. However scientists point out this does not mean cannabis is the cause. Obviously those suffering from mental health problems are more likely to self medicate. Saying cannabis causes "psychosis" is like saying aspirin causes headaches and antibiotics cause infection. Also if cannabis caused mental health problems, we would expect to see an increase in mental health cases in countries with higher marijuana use, but this is also not the case.

Isispriest brings up drug testing which is another trouble maker. It makes kids choose between:

Marijuana - Can be detected for up to 30 days
Meth - Can be detected for 2 or 3 days, but you can say you taking other legal medication

What message is that sending? As if it was not bad enough authority figures have lost all credibility from lying about pot that young people often no longer believe them when it comes to other substances which will actually harm them.
 okeedokee444
Joined: 7/21/2007
Msg: 897
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Posted: 8/12/2007 5:48:38 AM
Is anyone suprised how LONG this thread has gotten, typically threads are long, because the chances are, there are some people that support the use of this illegal substance. My dad used to throw people like that in jail all the time. I'm suprised so many people defend it.
 Searching for love
Joined: 6/24/2007
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Posted: 8/12/2007 1:09:42 PM
I THINK PEOPLE DEFEND IT BECAUSE THEY ARE FINALLY WAKING UP AND REALIZING THAT THE LAWS ARE MEANT TO PROTECT NOT TO LIE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US. THE VERY FIRST REASON THE LAW OR GOVERNMENT MADE IT ILLEAGAL WAS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE MEXICAN PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO THE U.S. IN THE 1920'S. IT WAS LEGAL TO SMOKE UNTIL THEN. THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONTROL THE BORDER SOOOOOOOO LET'S JUST MAKE A LAW CAUSE WE KNOW THE MEXICAN PEOPLE SMOKED . HELL AT THAT TIME IN TEXAS IT GREW WILD UP AND DOWN THE HWY.'S I MEAN WE NEED TO TAKE BACK THE COUNTRY LIKE IT WAS MEANT TO BE FOLKS FREE. AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HURT ANYONE WHAT THE HELL . IT'S NOBODY'S BUSINESS WHAT YOU DO AT HOME. BUSINESS'S TEST YOU BECAUSE IT MAKES THEIR INSURANCE CHEAP. OKAY PEOPLE LET'S JUST BE SHEEP AND FOLLOW WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS JUST LIKE THE WEPONS OF MASS DETRACTIONS. THEY WANT TO GET YOU WATCHING WHAT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER IS DOING SO THE LEFT HAND CAN RIFLE THRU YOUR POCKETS.
 travelindude
Joined: 8/5/2007
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Posted: 8/12/2007 2:48:08 PM
you wouldnt "sink" to chatting with pot smokers?? get off your high horse before you fall off. you "chat" with more pot smokers in a day than you will ever realize. don't get all bent about something you know nothing about. to me, it's like someone saying they won't tolerate gays or lesbians in their lives. well guess what, a certain percentage of the population is of that persuasion, so deal with it. you people who like to pretend that you're so liberal and tolerant and then come out with "i won't sink to that level" are being ignorant, bigotted, and worst of all, dishonest with yourselves.
 RVawayI go
Joined: 4/5/2005
Msg: 900
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Posted: 8/13/2007 7:41:23 AM
Drug abuse, pot smokers.
Most people who have never smoked pot have no say in the matter.
Most people and this is so true to fact today. Have gone to there doctor and are high on some kind of pain killer there doctor has given them. Lawyers,doctors, etc. etc. And I am sure some even smoke pot as well as drink. Which is legal, just don't drive and kill someone.
I read some things that have been said. The only ones that are worth reading are the ones where someone said its up to each one of us to choose.
The one great big issue I have with it all is this.
For some stupid ass reason the feds spend millions of tax bucks to fight the war on pot, while letting the real bad crap like crack, coke, meth go on. STop and think people,
Yes think. All you none drug users, or pot smokers, Are you aware of the money spent on going after pot smokers????????? Or you all just so stupid and do not care.
Mean while the kid down the street is smoking crack, breaking into your house to steal from you for his or her habit. Hey girls are lucky in that way. They don't have to steal, they can sell their body for crack or coke. WAke up people, pot smokers aren't hurting anyone
Its very rare that someone who smokes pot runs a person over while driving a car. But drunks are doing it all the time. But hey, drinking in legal,,,does that make killing your kid ok????? IF I am drunk and not on pot?????? Well you say no, But yet its legal to drink.
I am sorry folks. The issue is can a person who doesn't smoke be ok with someone who does
Its up to that person. I smoke and have for 38 yrs. And I have done many things in my time. I enjoy getting high. I have never dove into an empty swimming pool. I have never been dared to run from guard dogs. The things they show you on tv are sometimes so stupid. And like doing things that way. Now your saying what?
Go have a beer or two, I will take anyone on that says pot is like booze and affects you in that way. I have a friend that has smoked forever. Just so you all know how bad this drug is.....IF it weren't for him your damn cell phones would not have CDMA........Yes he thought that up with a few other people. Yes he is a very very smart person. But hey he smokes pot.And yes he makes like a 1/2 mill. a yr. Has a big house, family,bla,bla, bla....wake up people. Pot is not coke or crack, and does not affect you the way those drugs affect you. But hey. You all need somthing to whine about and pot is so easy to whine about isn't it.
Lite up one and enjoy. You only live so long. STop crying about the stupid little things that aren't hurting anyone and go after the things that are. Booze, crack, coke, meth. Bush, wars, etc. etc.
And all the people who run the damn country that let all the crime go on.
Its your life and your kids that these people do not care about.
But hey, if you don't like cigs, pot, or someone who drinks, its all up to the person.
Wake up, and get on track here
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