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 DragonBits
Joined: 1/6/2012
Msg: 38
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Just to be clear ( because I dont think you are suggesting food is the issue with beta carotene) its the supplement that can possibly cause harm and not food.
Studies vary and I avoid it as a former heavy smoker and one who still lights up with coffee.
You should eat foods that have beta carotene even with lung problems. I know of NO Dr/nutritionist/specialist that suggests that smokers and former smokers should avoid fruits and vegetables rich in beta carotene.


My major point was that a well funded scientific study proved antioxidants were instrumental in reducing the risk of developing advanced age-related macular degeneration,

One seldom sees any long term studies that get this specific about exactly what supplements to take.

As far as beta carotene and lung cancer, the few studies that were done found that people who take beta-carotene supplements may have a higher risk for conditions such as cancer and heart disease. Especially smokers or those exposed to asbestos. They suspect it's just the supplements because it's isolated beta carotene, but I don't think they really know.

However, other studies that look at big groups of people suggest that those who eat 4 or more daily servings of fruits and vegetables rich in beta-carotene may reduce their risk of developing heart disease or cancer.

Since these fruits and vegetables are rich in many nutriments and antioxidants, who really knows what is beneficial.

So it looks like no one has really studied this enough detail. I don't really have an opinion about the role of beta carotene in general health.

:) I am taking the 5th on beta carotene.
 You_keep_alive
Joined: 10/29/2014
Msg: 39
What vitamins do you take?
Posted: 12/13/2014 8:59:45 PM
Abilify, Lamotrigine, and Lithium. They aren't helping.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/15/2014 3:06:51 AM
Warnings go back for many years.
DRS. have been telling patients with COPD, compromised lungs health etc. to get vit A in a supplement form without beta carotene for 10 years to my personal knowledge
The first studies I read were in early 2005, but the studies went back for years .

In the Finnish (ATBC) study of 29,000 male smokers 20 mg beta-carotene supplements taken over six years were linked to lung cancer. In the U.S. (CARET) study of more than 18,000 male and female smokers and male asbestos workers, 30 mg beta-carotene supplements over four years were linked to a 28% higher risk of lung cancer and a 17% higher risk of deaths from all causes compared with smokers taking a placebo.

Both studies were halted ATBC in 1994 and CARET in 1996. But study participants are suffering lingering damage, according to a report in the Dec. issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

G E. Goodman, MD,of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle looked at follow up on those who took part in the CARET study. They found In smokers, the higher risk of lung cancer and death continues even after a person stops taking beta-carotene.
 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
Msg: 41
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Posted: 12/15/2014 11:38:40 AM
They found In smokers, the higher risk of lung cancer and death continues even after a person stops taking beta-carotene.


Which isn't a problem if people just DON'T smoke.

People just create their own problems a lot of the time.
 DragonBits
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Posted: 12/16/2014 7:15:50 AM

In the Finnish (ATBC) study of 29,000 male smokers 20 mg beta-carotene supplements taken over six years were linked to lung cancer. In the U.S. (CARET) study of more than 18,000 male and female smokers and male asbestos workers, 30 mg beta-carotene supplements over four years were linked to a 28% higher risk of lung cancer and a 17% higher risk of deaths from all causes compared with smokers taking a placebo.


Ok, thanks, they have studied this in more detail.

What they don't know is if beta-carotene in food is equally bad for you.

Getting 6 MG of beta-carotene has no noticeable effect, while 30 MG is bad for former smokers. Drinking 2 cups of canned carrot juice is about 44 MG, two sweet potatoes is 43 MG. I would guess doing that on a regular basis has the same effect as the supplements, but I doubt anyone has studied that. Daily eating of foods high enough in beta-carotene to go over 30 MG a day.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 43
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Posted: 12/16/2014 6:18:39 PM

...and a 17% higher risk of deaths from all causes compared with smokers taking a placebo.


Which is why I now take nothing, but I also believe by taking nothing I am doing my body good and as showing by the data in every study, regardless of what you do, if you believe it works there is a much high chance that it will.

In the breath of, it is not the stress that will kill you, but the fear of the stress.

So, the best vitamin you can take, is a positive attitude, regardless how twisted it may be.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
Msg: 44
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:18:43 AM
Vitamins and Supplements: An Evidence-Based Approach

University of California Television (UCTV)

Published on Oct 29, 2013

Time - ~2hrs

Dr. Jeffrey Tice, UCSF Department of Medicine, looks at vitamin use and the benefits and harms from these dietary supplements.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mDrAQi1SwU
 satx78218
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Posted: 12/26/2014 9:42:28 AM
Dirt Poor: Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/

Studies Show Microwaves Drastically Reduce Nutrients In Food

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/studies-show-microwaves-drastically-reduce-nutrients-food

More recent studies have shown same or worse results.

Now Monsanto wants to add Agent Orange to its toxic chemicals, with corresponding GMO seeds.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/28/2014 10:54:48 AM

Have Fruits and Vegetables Become Less Nutritious?

^^^^^^^Yes, has been getting worse for the last 75 years and everyone would be wise to supplement essential minerals for their health.
SULFUR and Magnesium top The list.( I know I've have said it so many times y'all could just spit)

Its easy to replenish ( sulfur) in our diet with MSM. Getting an opti MSM product will make sure its a good pure form and we all need a good magnesium supplement. My preference is a quick absorbing citrate form of magnesium.
Some may wish to ask their physician which would work best for them. Mg citrate can cause loose stools in some people if they take to much at once.
Some it doesnt bother at all, some need a little help in that area esp if they are a tense person

Magnesium and sulfur deficient diets cause a lot of issues.
We need sulfur for collagen production, hair , skin and nails will benefit greatly from MSM, also lowers inflammation in the body, reduces pain in joints, headaches, helps allergies and is anti cancer.

Magnesium deficiencies also can cause headaches, muscle pain, muscle cramps, sleeplessness, lack of calcium absolution and other problems with the heart.

Its a growing problem and has been for years.
There are other depleted minerals also .
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 12/28/2014 11:43:58 AM

Magnesium and sulfur deficient diets cause a lot of issues.
We need sulfur for collagen production, hair , skin and nails will benefit greatly from MSM, also lowers inflammation in the body, reduces pain in joints, headaches, helps allergies and is anti cancer.

Magnesium deficiencies also can cause headaches, muscle pain, muscle cramps, sleeplessness, lack of calcium absolution and other problems with the heart.


Which really means nothing, as I could fill 10 pages of chemicals and compounds that may produce the same results.

It could also be shown that Magnesium can cause pretty much anything right up to and included death.



The main thing people need to understand is, looking at a study done on a random group of people really means nothing as it relates to anything you, as you are not a random group of people.

So only take a supplement if there is proof (some type of test) that shows you are deficient in some way.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/29/2014 2:01:55 AM

So only take a supplement if there is proof (some type of test) that shows you are deficient in some way.

Thats not always a good indicator, but an aid.
You may not need anything just yet to feel your best.
Not suggesting you tale 100 bucks in supplements a month. Most healthy people can alternate supplements just as they do seasonal foods.

Anyhoo
By the time you feel horrible it may show up or not ( a deficiency)in a test.
If you feel great, I wouldn't worry except for a muti,omega 3's ,magnesium, d3,sulfur and k3. If you only take them 3 times a week its smart.
Mens need are different than women's anyway and the young will be different than middle age to older in a lot of cases.
Each person has varying needs due to age/sex/ lifestyle/diet/stress/health concerns/possibly a genetic issue also..

Some people have more pain, allergies and issues that require the extra minerals/enzymes or vitamins to be healthy.( full potential esp)

Blood tests dont always show that you could benefit from them, just a measure of what is in the blood that day or what is /has been considered
"NORMAL" and normal is such a broad range that what is good for me as a woman past 50 with my particular concerns on the normal scale may not be the best for me.
Just look at weight /BMI scales. Whats fat for me may be fit for another.


Two test I know that are not accurate in what we may or may not need.
Iron.You can show a "normal" read on hemoglobin with no iron deficiency for a year or more, then boom..it does show it to an extent and you feel horrible and listless. ( you have to take in account the size of red blood cells and dist width also usually you see that first and could see it for years as not "normal range but have a"normal" iron level blood test), But you FEEL sluggish and fatigued and blood test dont point to why. It could be iron or you could be taking the less accurate but commonly used thyroid test that shows normal but when checked properly shows an issue.

When normal is not specific to age/ sex etc and so broad I am not going by those test. I go by how I feel and ask for another type of test if I think its necessary or want assurance.

Saw a show on a very young girl with neurological issues and they have all but given up
( Dr after Dr until a Dr finally tried therapeutic B2.) The child couldn't lift her arm and other issues. Wish I had written it down, but she ate normal healthy foods. I had never heard of her syndrome before and again sorry I didn't make note of it.

Non malnourished kids that have ADHD/ADD to some forms of Autism benefit from omega 3's and other healthy fats and minerals too.DMG also can help by supplying extra oxygen to the blood.
Two types of fatty acids are considered essential. Omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids and can't be synthesized in the body so must be obtained from the diet. The omega-6 fatty acids are distributed evenly in most tissues and easily obtained through food sources commonly found in the American diet, but omega-3 fatty acids are concentrated in a few tissues including the brain. The typical American diet cause perhaps the majority of children today to be deficient in omega-3 fatty acids. Specialists now believe omega-3 fatty acid deficiency leads to unique symptoms during childhood, including behavioral problems. I've seen it change lives in kids and caretakers/Moms and grandmothers.

In 1981, researchers first hypothesized that children with ADHD may have reduced nutritional status of essential fatty acids because they showed greater thirst (a symptom of essential fatty acid deficiency) compared to children without ADHD.

These results were further confirmed in 1983. When essential fatty acids were examined in 23 maladjusted children and 20 normal children, essential fatty acid blood levels in poorly behaved children were significantly lower.

In 1987, researchers further documented that 48 children with ADHD reported significantly greater thirst, more frequent urination, and more health and learning problems than children without ADHD. Significantly lower levels of two omega-6 fatty acids and one omega-3 fatty acid (DHA) were found in the subjects with ADHD symptoms.

In a 1995 study comparing plasma essential fatty acid levels in 53 boys with ADHD to a control group of 43 boys without ADHD, researchers found significantly lower levels of omega-3 fatty acids.

In the April - May 1996 issue of Physiology & Behavior, Laura J. Stevens, of the Department of Foods and Nutrition, Purdue University, and co-investigators reported that boys with lower levels of omega-3 fatty acids in their blood showed more problems with behavior, learning, and health than those with higher levels of total omega-3 fatty acids.

Also, in 1996, researchers from the Department of Psychiatry, Technical University, Faculty of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey, reported that levels of free fatty acids as well as zinc were several fold lower in ADHD children compared to non-ADHD symptomatic children.

So in closing. A blood test would not have shown the child needed B2 and I know of no test to exact our omega 3 intake/needs/ omega 3 deficiency so why would most test for many of us tell us what we need in every case? They simply just don't.
The only reason the Dr knew what it was ( b2 def) is she had dealt with that particular syndrome before and recognized the symptoms were close to that of a brain tumor or stroke ( which she was tested for and the other Drs gave up after a while) she deteriorated rapidly with even her eyes not turning correctly.

Yes thats an extreme case, but an example of todays current testing is not the answer to what we need, just a general guide on things.
 HFX_RGB
Joined: 7/26/2014
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Posted: 12/29/2014 6:37:34 AM
You need to understand that taking vitamins and supplements can have a detrimental effect on your lifespan and just taking supplements because you feel sluggish or some other reason is irresponsible at best.

You can quote all the stuff you want, but a medical study that looks at a group of people have no bearing on an individual unless you can show that they are identical to the people in the study.

So unless you are told by a medical professional that you are deficient with regards to a vitamin then you have no reason to take one.



Though if you do think that studies are important why have you not quoted the most famous study with regards to vitamins?


The Iowa Women's Health Study

Background Although dietary supplements are commonly taken to prevent chronic disease, the long-term health consequences of many compounds are unknown.

Methods We assessed the use of vitamin and mineral supplements in relation to total mortality in 38 772 older women in the Iowa Women's Health Study; mean age was 61.6 years at baseline in 1986. Supplement use was self-reported in 1986, 1997, and 2004. Through December 31, 2008, a total of 15 594 deaths (40.2%) were identified through the State Health Registry of Iowa and the National Death Index.

Conclusions In older women, several commonly used dietary vitamin and mineral supplements may be associated with increased total mortality risk; this association is strongest with supplemental iron. In contrast to the findings of many studies, calcium is associated with decreased risk.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1105975
 satx78218
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Posted: 12/29/2014 2:40:38 PM
"In older women, several commonly used dietary vitamin and mineral supplements may be associated with increased total mortality risk; "

of course, this is useless BS.

Nutrition, exercise, and comorbidities unknown, ignored?

only the self-reported intake of vitamins and minerals caused increased mortality? LOL
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/30/2014 4:07:25 AM

In older women, several commonly used dietary vitamin and mineral supplements may be associated with increased total mortality risk; this association is strongest with supplemental iron. In contrast to the findings of many studies

^^^^^^To much of almost anything can be a mortality increase factor. Even some nuts and broccoli.
I'm iron deficient as are a lot of women. I take 2 blood tests a year to check everything reasonable to check.
Calcium supplementation is actually one of the more dangerous in some studies according to the Mayo clinic and respected nutritionist. I want the majority of my calcium from food until more is known about the build up it could cause in your arteries.More on calcium supplement dangers later

Chromium and selenium def should be watched, no more than 400 mcg a day chromium and I would limit selenium to 70-200 mcg, but so many dieters take various supplements, then don't check for over lapping ingredients.

I just went through a box of supplements a lady brought over for me to look at.
She had a multi, a bottle of what she thought was just one thing, but had a large dose of selenium and chromium and then a "night" supplement.All advertising either good for blood sugar balance or weight loss.
Each one had close to the max daily dose of chromium which to much can can damage the kidneys.

To much selenium is dangerous also, either from the diet or from taking supplements " selenium toxicity". It can cause loss of hair and fingernails, nerve dysfunction, changes in personality, and digestive upset and skin issues.The lungs and liver can be affected which can be fatal. Selenium levels greater than 400 micrograms per day pose a risk .


, calcium is associated with decreased risk.

Only from food.People really need to watch calcium supplementation.
An alkaline forming diet is much more effective for keeping bone as is D3, magnesium and k3

More research is needed before we know the effect calcium supplements may have on heart attack risk. The calcium supplements that some are concerned about are those that contain only calcium (a high dose for a supplement)but not supplements that combine calcium,magnesium and D or multivitamin supplements ( a low dose). Calcium from food sources, such as some dairy and green leafy vegetables etc, is not a concern.

Heres a bit of info you may enjoy reading on calcium supplementation . I study extensively.. Women during/after menopause and their special needs and concerns.So I do not recommend any dose of calcium supplement to anyone over 50, female that has heart health issues/risks known unless a small amount in a muti.


A 2007 study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that calcium supplements don’t reduce fracture rates in older women, and may even increase the rate of hip fractures.

Beyond being ineffective for bone health, calcium supplements are associated with some pretty serious health risks.
Studies on the relationship between calcium and cardiovascular disease (CVD) suggest that DIETARY intake of calcium protects against heart disease, but supplemental calcium may increase the risk. A large study of 24,000 men and women aged 35–64 years published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) in 2012 found that those who used calcium supplements had a 139% greater risk of heart attack during the 11-year study period, while intake of calcium from food did not increase the risk. (4) A meta-analysis of studies involving more than 12,000 participants also published in BMJ found that calcium supplementation increases the risk of heart attack by 31%, stroke by 20% and death from all causes by 9%. (5)

An analysis involving 12,000 men published in JAMA Internal Medicine found that intakes of over 1,000 mg of supplemental calcium per day (from multivitamins or individual supplements) were associated with a 20% increase in the risk of death from CVD. (6) Researchers suspect that the large burst of calcium in the blood that occurs after supplementation may facilitate the calcification of arteries, whereas calcium obtained from food is absorbed at slower rates and in smaller quantities than from supplements. (7) It is also suspected that extra calcium intake above one’s requirements is not absorbed by bones, but rather excreted in the urine, increasing the risk of calcium kidney stones, or circulated in the blood, where it might attach to atherosclerotic plaques in arteries or heart valves. (8)

The Office of Dietary Supplements at the National Institutes of Health has compiled a comprehensive review of the health risks associated with excess calcium, particularly from supplementation. (9) For example, daily supplementation of calcium at 1000 milligrams is associated with increased prostate cancer risk and an increase in kidney stones. (10) Additionally, a recent Swedish study reported a 40% higher risk of death among women with high calcium intakes (1400 mg and above), and a 157% higher risk of death if those women were taking a 500 mg calcium supplement daily, compared to women with moderate daily calcium intakes (600-1000 mg). (11) A Consumer Lab analysis found that many of the calcium supplements they analyzed failed quality testing, including lead contamination and mislabeled contents..


I am more concerned about mineral intake/lack of minerals in soil. A multi with minerals that has the min of what the RDA recommends will not hurt most and will help more than hurt many since many are habit eaters No one suggests not talking to your physician or nutritionist that knows your needs/health concerns. I highly recommend it myself for most, but you need to know what to take and the source is reputable.
Most people shop for the same thing every week/month and have little variety with food.
 HFX_RGB
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Posted: 12/30/2014 6:45:49 AM

To much of almost anything can be a mortality increase factor.


Exactly, so unless you know for sure that you are deficient in something it would be irresponsible to be taking any supplements.
 bluespikedshell
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Posted: 12/30/2014 10:39:26 AM
A multivitamin every now and then.
 chameleonf
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Posted: 12/30/2014 11:31:07 AM
Because of lack of sunshine at this time of year, 1 1000 UI natural source vitamin D. I don't see the need for supplements of all kinds unless there's a symptom that warrants it. I must be doing something right - I only get a cold every 6 or 7 years and I can't remember the last time I had a flu.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 12/31/2014 3:09:15 PM

so unless you know for sure that you are deficient in something it would be irresponsible to be taking any supplements.

Thats unreasonable^^^^^^^^^^^
By your reasoning if I am gleaning what you are saying correctly, you think people should be deficient enough in a blood test ( thats not designed to your specific needs) in a vitamin or mineral to show you are deficient by some scale made for general disease avoidance (and probably are already starting to have side effects you may not be aware of) before supplementation of any kind.
Maybe wait until you have rickets for that D, gums to start bleeding or get scurvy before having a bit of extra C too?



Men do not need the same things as women and 21 year olds dont need what a 50 year old needs.
A high emotional stress lifestyle doesnt need what a highly physical one does.
People are different, especially the sexes and health issues from bone loss to diabetes to heart disease or high risk for cancer/stroke.
Blood tests can only give you a guide ( usually a guide for men 35-40), even the RDA recommendations are not accurate for everyone and only state what we need NOT to get a disease. That is not optimal health.That is not preventative measures.

Race can come into it also, exp.A dark skinned person will NOT absorb the vitamin D pale skinned people do with the same 15 minutes of sun and skin exposed..



Most extra vitamins are urinated out that we dont need unless fat soluble, so an extra b complex and c a few time a day can only benefit unless there is a medical reason not to.

I do not think for a minute you neglect your health, but assuming others dont need or should not supplement when they probably do, is not reasonable. I'm not saying all women my age need what I need, because they don't have my specific issues, injuries,diet etc., but I know what women my age MAY need more than you do because you don't research women's health issues over 50.
Again soil depletion of minerals ,the opening post is another very good reason to supplement.



D3 is smart to take esp when not getting sun and if you are prone to winter blues, but again if you do have calcification in the arteries you want to be careful and not take mega doses over 1000 iu unless you have been checked for build up by a screening ( not blood tests, but actual visual pictures) and checking with your physician if heart disease is a risk and it IS the number one killer of women.
We are passing men now in death from heart disease, esp this generation. The
" caretaker generation" as I call it.If you are a woman between 45 and 65 be it a spouse, parent, kids, grand kids, a job and house hold to run...good grief.

Vitamin Bacardi anyone? Happy New Year!!!!
 HFX_RGB
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Posted: 12/31/2014 4:31:09 PM

Thats unreasonable^^^^^^^^^^^


Maybe if you are in the business of selling them, otherwise it is common sense.



By your reasoning if I am gleaning what you are saying correctly, you think people should be deficient enough in a blood test ( that's not designed to your specific needs) in a vitamin or mineral to show you are deficient by some scale made for general disease avoidance (and probably are already starting to have side effects you may not be aware of) before supplementation of any kind.


Yeah pretty much, there is no reason to nit pick and look for things people would perceive as problems.

It is like taking a drug because you are looking for a problem, therfore if no problem exists why try and find one.

Because if you look hard enough you will find that any number of people are not at "optimum" levels of this or that, mostly because we are all differnet.




A high emotional stress lifestyle doesnt need what a highly physical one does.


There in lies some of the irony, as worrying about things like vitamins is not healthy. As for the most part stress is not the killer, but the fear of stress.

The thinking that your body needs vitamins only adds to that pile.




We are passing men now in death from heart disease, esp this generation.


That is like worrying about the grass growing.

People have always and will always die and the less time one spends not obsessed with extending their life the more time they can actually spend living it.



It looks to me, as people are basically taking the Pascal's Wager approach without considering the downside which are as well documented as the up side.
 calguy14
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Posted: 1/1/2015 5:39:55 AM
A multi.Anti oxidants.Niacin here and there.
 midnite_icecream
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Posted: 1/1/2015 6:03:58 AM

Most calcium should come from food.
Sardines and salmon with bone is good

I read somewhere that calcium from crushed pieces of bone in chicken nuggets (not really healthy food, however..) aren't good. Is it because of being derived from factory-reared chickens or is the animal source of it the problem. The only salmon bones I can think possible to eat is that which comes from a can...perhaps bones from fresh sardines are doable, don't know as I never tried it. Unfortunately the canned varieties tend to be too high in salt.. most concerning because of the health implications.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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^^^^^Good point on the salt since so many have issues with it.




My grandmother made her calcium from egg shells saved from a friends hens.
Save your shells ( organic hens with a thick shell are best).
Clean well
Boil
Dry and crush into a powder.
Put in capsules or don't.
 midnite_icecream
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Good to know about the eggs. A way around the salty tinned fish is to add water to leach the salt out of it. The amount of water added depends on how much salt you want removed. I've done this with jarred olives though the downside is you wouldn't be able to keep it as long ..but opened tinned fish should be eaten promptly anyway. If only sodium wasn't a preservative agent.
With regard to vitamins, I'm not taking any at the moment but considering a multi-vitamin, with emphasis on boosting energy levels. Somewhat hesitant about relying on popping a pill everyday (whilst I took a pregnancy multi-v every day, I knew it would only be for a finite period)... every second day is preferable to help supplement deficiencies. Saves me a little moneywise.
Of superfoods, started eating avocados regularly not too long ago. A good food source for diabetics is bitter melon but the bitter taste might be a turn-off to the tastebuds of the uninitiated. I've got a jar of linseed, sunflower and almond kernel mix and note that one serving looks extremely high in omega 3 compared to a serving of tinned tuna. Made me wonder if one can ingest too much of this. I also have a tablespoon of Chia seeds sprinkled on food once a day when I remember.
 calguy14
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Posted: 1/1/2015 7:27:27 PM
I would doubt the label.
 Peppermint_Petunias
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Posted: 1/2/2015 2:53:24 AM
^^^^^^ be careful with bitter melon, cinnamon is safer and doesnt have the hypoglycemia dangers bitter melon* can *have in case you get to much.
I would take a diabetic vitamin, full of antioxidants, a bit of chromium picolinate and alpha lipoic acid.
You can cut in half and take a half a.m. and the other after another meal.
Google a brand or two and make a copy of the ingredients label and ask your Dr/nutritionist which is best for you.

Also to much of the omega 6's can cause inflammation in the body/heart problems/joint pain. You get enough from food in most cases.
Mayo and salad dressings are full of omega 6's( usually soybean oil)
Maybe make your jar of oil supplementation with extra virgin olive oil, avocado oil and flax oil?.
Organic eggs ( with yolk) is a good source, just dont over cook the yolk.
A deep water salmon oil can be good, but brands vary greatly in quality. Pop a capsule and smell it.

Great that you are eating avocados.
I put guac on organic eggs. Its really good.

To much consumption of omega-6 fatty acids can cause serious health problems. There are very rare cases of a deficiency in omega 6's in the American diet.
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