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 want to travel
Joined: 7/29/2006
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there are men in the western world that still want to marry a virgin..... who knew, maybe they should join the taliban lol
 StevieCashmere
Joined: 4/22/2009
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Why a virgin?
Posted: 10/18/2009 3:02:20 AM
Decades ago, this thread would be' Why have sx before marriage'!! ~ times change as they say
Let people be who they want to be so long as they don't impose on anyone else
~sc~
 merelymortal
Joined: 11/24/2009
Msg: 270
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Posted: 6/11/2010 6:55:26 PM
The only men who should be looking for virgins are virgin men. Otherwise its just backward and chauvinistic to expect a virgin partner.

Its 2010, get with it people.
 want to travel
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Posted: 6/13/2010 11:03:34 AM
i dont believe that most men want to marry virgins
only a few cultures, not the western culture
western men,want good lovers, not easy girls, but women that love to have sex and are good at it
 ohio07
Joined: 12/27/2008
Msg: 274
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Posted: 6/16/2010 7:08:16 PM
This reminds me of the Adam Carolla quote about the Muslim terrorist awaiting 1,000 virgins in heaven: "Trust me, three virgins into it... your looking for a "pro"!
 TheReason_
Joined: 5/16/2009
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Posted: 6/17/2010 11:24:16 AM
If someone is a virgin at 40, they probably have more issues than I'd ever want to deal with.

Being a virgin is irrelevant to me. Sounds like he was way too insecure.
 want to travel
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Posted: 6/20/2010 2:55:46 AM
somebody said you dont want a slut to be the mother of your children, i hate the double standard,if a woman has a high sex drive its just that,,,, a high sex drive
had a couple of virgins, when i was a young kid, they where very bad experiences, the did not know what to do, i want as much experience as i can get
 want to travel
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Posted: 6/20/2010 7:06:47 AM
i was a kid too and did not know much more then they did
now that i am 38, i want a woman that is a great lover, has had many men, is imaginative and creative in the sack,i find the more men a woman had the more open and wonderful she is, and is willing and able to please ,not just take pleasure
 want to travel
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Posted: 6/20/2010 7:29:45 AM
you know i was not a good lover until i had an affair ,i was 17,18 at the time she was 35
she taught me how to really have great sex, she was patient with me, she also showed me a wold of finer things in life, living so close to detroit we would go to concerts, art galleries, and fine dinning
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 281
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Posted: 9/17/2011 6:49:03 AM
Any man who says that is an idiot. Period. ESPECIALLY after inviting you to his bed! What a slap in the face! "Sorry, you've had a few in you(My Gods how very crass), you're no longer good enough to marry. But you're good enough to F***!"

Truth told, I've deflowered a couple of virigns in my time, and with the exception of one, it was a chore. If I wanted to be a teacher, I'd get a teaching license.

I hope you avoided him like the plague from that point on.
 cbbull21
Joined: 3/9/2009
Msg: 282
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Posted: 9/18/2011 8:40:18 PM
What a load of crap. Alot of guys and girls don't want virgins. Well, virgins have to get experience somewhere. I admit it's pretty asinine for a non-virgin groom to want a virgin bride. However, I don't see any indications that you think there are any virgin grooms. What's wrong with "fairy tale marriage"? (if love is really a mutual learning process given both parties put forth the effort). If you're looking for a stable, satisfying sex-life before marriage, I doubt that you'd ever find it after.
What ever happened to "courting" and "going steady"?
Every sexual encounter is a game of roulette with your future on the line. What's worse is the payout's marginal at best, equatable to drug use.

This may or may not be my honest opinion, but it is a logical conclusion.
 wiseguy_89
Joined: 1/7/2012
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Posted: 1/10/2012 12:04:18 PM
I don't think its the virgin problem.I never had sex with someone whom I don't love so someway I expect the same from the other person.Casual sex is in someway a turn off for me.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2012 1:23:54 PM
Virginity is a specifically male issue that stems from thousands of years of a hypocritical patriarchy.

There is ONE reason why men long insisted on a woman being a virgin: it meant that there was no risk of her being pregnant when the couple married. A man didn't have to worry about raising (unknowingly) the child of another man.

This is why when the Israelites were committing genocide in Canaan, they could spare the virgins. However, they weren't supposed to have sexual relations with them for a year so they could make sure the "virgins" were really virgins and not pregnant.

Virginity became a religious issue because of this--but then, religious tenets are often social aspects cloaked in sanctimonious excuses.

In the world of double standards, men could have sex with whomever they could get away with having sex. There was the chance of STIs, of course, but he wasn't going to get pregnant and paternity was impossible to establish before blood tests (which were faulty) and DNA testing. Of course, some men were subject to shotgun weddings, but that was to save the woman's honor.

People continue to have mixed up ideas about sex. I don't think humans will ever be able to look at sex objectively.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 288
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Posted: 1/10/2012 4:22:40 PM

well because I haven't found the right 1, not for a lack of trying I assure you of that.


Does this mean that you are a virgin or that you are seeking a virgin?


I think that men enjoy sex more than women because they have it on their mind more than women do, also why do women complain so much when the guy wants to have sex?


Come in to the 21st century--women LIKE sex. And if you are the virgin, how do you know women complain?


Women on here say there not looking for sex, that is a big lie, you know you want it , just finding the right guy is all it takes!!


You just contradicted yourself: if women don't like sex, why do they want it?


If women hate sex that much why do they get pregnant then?


Oh, so now, women "hate" sex--make up your mind! This question makes no sense--a woman could actually hate sex but still want to have a child. And you were not even in the 20th century--ever heard of "birth control"? Believe it or not, but women can have sex now and NOT get pregnant. By the way, I am 59: I will not get pregnant unless I have big time medical help, but I still have sex because I enjoy it! Go figure!
 TheCritic
Joined: 3/7/2011
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Posted: 1/10/2012 4:33:25 PM
In many high cultures and upper class societies, women who "sleep around" or have many sexual partners are frowned upon in the higher circles.. While society in general has become more sexual and promiscuous, the general morality has not changed over the centuries.. There is still a certain elegance and fertility factors that go into a woman who is a virgin, and she is deemed more desirable and the process of "deflowering" one is so much more appealing than the lame excuse of having sex with an "experienced" woman.. It does not take a rocket scientist to be experienced in something like sex, and virgins are much more rare than slutty women, and by nature of supply and demand, what is rare is deemed more valuable.. thank you.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2012 5:34:32 PM

slutty women,


So every woman who is not a virgin is slutty. I will be sure to tell my 86 year old mother this when I see her next.
 Digit69
Joined: 12/31/2010
Msg: 291
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Posted: 1/11/2012 10:22:45 AM
Who would want a virgin that was boring in highschool any real man should be confident enough to handle the past and the experience never hurt either!!
 RoughAsGuts
Joined: 7/27/2008
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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:13:09 AM
Lets be honest here

Men care about virginity in much the same way women care about having a wealthy partner.

Its not a priority for many but it would be a bonus if they were lucky enough to come across one.

The day women can claim men are unfair to wanting a virgin, is the day all women renounce wanting a wealthy husband. Because at the end of the day both men and women have their own selfish pursuits and no one is responsible for anyone else or whatever fixation their partner might have. If a man can land a virgin more power to them, if a woman can marry a billionaire then good for her. Bottom line is that each has their own life lessons to be had, and some may reach happiness this way while others may not.

If you happen to be in a relationship with a person who pursues wealth to the point of jeopardizing love itself, its a very unreasonable attitude in my opinion. Much in the same way that a person who wants a virgin wife, is willing to torment a woman who isn't a virgin or reproach her at every turn. He should be man enough to let her be and if he so wishes to marry a virgin, then he shouldn't string her along for years only to cause untold resentment later. He should man up and set her free and let her meet a man who will respect her more. Then he can seek out the virgin of his dreams, otherwise he should just zip it.
 curviest
Joined: 5/28/2010
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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:56:59 AM
Country boy said: "You don't want a girl that has been with a ton of guys, you just cant trust her as much I guess."

Can anyone PLEASE explain the connection between how many lovers she has had in the past, and how trustworthy she is?

Does each new penis reduce a woman's trustworthiness by one degree?

Please explain!
 curviest
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Posted: 1/24/2013 3:01:30 AM
Gwendolyn2010 "Virginity is a specifically male issue that stems from thousands of years of a hypocritical patriarchy."

+ 1
 licoricecat_1
Joined: 11/23/2008
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Posted: 1/24/2013 4:09:14 AM
My male Italian cousins wanted a virgin and only a virgin. Most of them married young 20 yrs old. The other one got a woman pregnant and that was overlooked but he called his female cousins sluts in they even went to a bar. Double standard. My mother did not stick up for us, so we had to defend ourselves. This was the same cousin that slapped me on Easter Sunday because my son gently hit the crystal on the lamp because he wanted to see it shine. I got hit and shoved out the door, me and my 2 yr old. son. I have abusive cousins and it is overlooked. These men are chauvanistic and want to wear a virgin on their arm. They feel that a virgin is untouched. It is an ego thing. Men though are allowed to sleep around and it is macho if you get more but when they settle down they want a virgin. She is worth more in their eyes, untouched. Why is it that men pursue women to sleep with??? I tried it both ways. They love to pursue a woman and then when they conquer her, they leave. The challenge is over....move on to the next. I have tried it both ways. When I did not sleep with the guy, there was just pressure and they go out of their way to please you with gifts, ......You know they don't really care, they are just trying to please you for their own egos. Women want respect and for you to appreciate who they are. Women do not want to be just the ornament on their arm so they could show you off to their buddies. They want to be loved and cherished. I would not go out with a guy who wants to just use me for their ego! I tried this and did not sleep with this guy and he started resenting me for saying No. He tried to hide me from his friends and did not stay with me at his friends daughters graduation. Most people did not even know who I came with. He drank alot and acted like I was not with him and then when he wanted to drive drunk. I told him that I would drive and he was screaming at me while I was driving and swearing and no one was on the road at that time. I handed him his keys, got out of the car and got a ride back to his home. He did not respect me more because I did not sleep with him. He resented me, swore at me, got drunk and hid me. He did not want me to go to the camp out that the host invited me to. He told me it was a guy camp out and I found out it was co=ed and they started teasing me that I would have to sleep with my friend. I became the joke so I knew that he was talking about me to these guy friends. I let the husband of the host drive me back to my car at his house.

I think if a guy wants a virgin, just to have a virgin, he is egotistical and chauvenistic and double standard. If he sleeps around why does he not want his girlfriend to? Double standard and not respectful. Egotistical that he wants a virgin on his arm. When you are young it is more realistic to find a virgin but when you get to our age, most people have been married and have kids, are divorced, have had sex, and not practical or realistic to find a virgin (untouched). There might be a few out there, but should not be ultimate goal to find a virgin at this age. Look at the heart of your woman...she is worth it!
 Lucky...13
Joined: 12/28/2012
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:24:44 AM
I think I saw your boyfriend on the cover of SOLDIER OF FORTUNE..... He moved to the *middle east* and is now surrounded by a sea of virgins. LMAO
 paramedic52
Joined: 12/9/2012
Msg: 297
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Posted: 1/24/2013 3:19:44 PM
if sexual experience is the only way for a woman to find a guy than i will be single for life. my guy count is one.
 RoughAsGuts
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Posted: 1/24/2013 3:50:55 PM
The double standard is in thinking that only men can be unreasonable or have lofty requirements for love.

If a man wants a virgin, then let him seek her out. His troubles are already double for putting such a high requirement on himself to find such a rarity. The same goes for women who think they will only ever be content living a millionaire lifestyle with minimal effort.

At the end of the day most people are shallow. Both men and women alike. And because people take so long to learn about life, I think its reasonable to just let them be. If you don't match with such a person then move on. But to say there is something wrong with any guy wanting a virgin is just dismissive and an unproductive way to look at the overall situation.

Men and women will want what they want. Nobody can say whether its right or wrong. If a woman thinks the only way she can be happy is to live rich then thats her perrogative. If a man thinks he can only ever trust a virgin or ever truly give his heart to one, then let him find out what life has in store for him. I have no sympathy for those who think the world is so simplistic that they try to fit everyone into a one size fits all on morality. There are always extenuating factors, like race, religion, culture, language and social conditioning. And at the end of it all you still have the gender thing, men and women don't think alike! And largely have different motives and goals where happiness is concerned. Live and let live I say.
 lowmiles2
Joined: 6/5/2007
Msg: 299
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Posted: 1/25/2013 9:53:51 AM
I have heard on this thread and others that a person's past sexual history is not important and that one needs to look to the future. That being said, if I catch Herpes from this gal someone is going to pay. The gift that keeps on giving. So yes he or she past sexual history is important. Marrying a virgin would eliminate the thought.
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