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Joined: 12/6/2005
Msg: 26
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I feel very enlightened. I'm glad to have read all of your posts. I too have worked for Walmart, as a seasonal employee. They offer exceptional training, and profit sharing. After leaving my ex, I had no credit rating (which is worse than none). Walmart gave me a credit rating by qualifying me for a credit card, just by being employed there. Other than that, yeah, you're right, they're not the greatest employers. It wasn't until I was going out the door that they offered me permanent part-time...whoopee.

I understand the plight of the small town businesses, however, it is up to the average consumer, as stated, to make a stand and not shop there. I do not see that happening in my life-time. We (the average consumer) are fixated on time (or lack of it). We want convenience. Walmart offers everything you need under one roof. We are creating the monster. That's why they're still around. We've also got Home Depot, and the Price Club is due to arrive soon. Sign of the times, I say. Nobody likes change.
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 27
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:04:09 PM
Do they still have pep rallies with the employees before the store opens and at shift changes, and if the employee doesn't entusiastically rally and cheer along, they get reprimanded?

Thanks for the additional info!

~ Panda
Joined: 12/4/2005
Msg: 28
Posted: 2/19/2006 8:11:14 PM

Do they still have pep rallies with the employees before the store opens and at shift changes, and if the employee doesn't entusiastically rally and cheer along, they get reprimanded?

The pep rallies aren't uniquely Walmart. I worked as a manager for a Walmart competitor and they did the same thing. It's supposed to motivate you give enthusastic customer service. I also worked at Walmart briefly and it was similar.
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 29
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:15:38 PM
Toon: I don't know how far you'd have to drive to shop at Costco (Olympia maybe?), but if you're a very organized shopper and planner, and you have other reasons to drive to a locale occasionaly where Costco is, the pricing when you buy in bulk is very competitive with Walmart, and more than worth the membership cost. Even if you start buying only a few items in bulk when you drive their direction just occasionally, because of restriction of funds for buying everything in bulk, and you gradually build it up over time, you will be doing yourself not only a favor in the moral dilemma department, but also with shopping costs. Im sure they sell Spaghettios in bulk! LOL

Plus, you get a hefty discount on gasoline at their pumps. I don't drive anymore (to save money and to reduce my 'carbon footprint'), but I remain a Costco member simply because it's worth it. I have a friend who owns a B&B in a remote area of Alaska and they come down to Seattle a couple times a year to visit relatives, and for a shopping trip to Costco. Because of her B&B and his fishing lodge, they actually fill up multiple shipping pallettes with Costco goods (including groceries for the B&B and fishing lodge) each trip which are shipped by sea, plus as many smaller boxes as they can take on their seaplane flight back. But they still save oodles of money even with the shipping figured in.

Some of the things I could get lower priced at Walmart than Costco, I can get even lower priced at eBay online, even with shipping charges added in.

I think I know of someone who works at your Walmart.

Good luck!
~ Natalie
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 30
Posted: 2/19/2006 8:48:19 PM

Wal-Mart fails to cover 60% of their workers with any health insurance

How is this different from anywhere else? I used to work for Osco Drug and I had to work there for a year and maintain an average of 32 hrs/wk to get health insurance (I also got paid minimum wage). Most places that I've worked health insurance was provided only if you worked full time. And provided isn't really correct since even when health insurance was provided at other jobs I still had to pay for it.

70% of Wal-Mart merchandise is from China

Is this much different from other retail outlets? I doubt it.

The way Wal-Mart runs its business has accelerated the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing jobs overseas, lowered working standards at home and shifted the burden of caring for their employees to U.S. taxpayers.

We can't blame Walmart for this. Americans enjoy a high standard of living and can no longer compete with other nations. We live in a global economy and this is going to cause rich nations, like America, to come towards equilibrium with the rest of the world.
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 31
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:05:27 PM
I wanted to share another website with the readers of this thread. It's (Don't think anyone posted this site yet...sorry if I missed it.)

Check out the "Wal-Mart Facts" tab, and the "Community Fights" tab.

It's a very informative site.

The following is a list of links (have to go to the "In the News" tab to have clickable links) of news stories about Wal-Mart controversies JUST FROM THE PAST 2-1/2 MONTHS!

~ Panda

Gregoire pledges to pass a "Wal-Mart bill" next year
Seattle Post-Intelligencer (WA) - Thursday, February 16, 2006

Democrat demands Wal-Mart pay fair share of health-care costs
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner (AK) - Thursday, February 16, 2006

Debate over ‘Wal-Mart law’ hits Colorado
Pueblo Chieftain (CO) - Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Education board objects to Wal-Mart
The Republican-American (CT) - Wednesday, February 15, 2006

House panel approves health insurance bill aimed at Wal-Mart
Lexington Herald-Leader (KY) - Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Bernanke expresses concern on industrial banks
Reuters - Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Wal-Mart Must Stock Contraception in Mass. (Associated Press) - Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Asda Wal-Mart guilty of anti-trade union activity
Food and Drink Europe - Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Wal-Mart accused of cheating on pay in SLC
The Salt Lake Tribune (UT) - Monday, February 13, 2006

States must follow Maryland's lead on Wal-Mart health benefits
The Free-Lance Star (VA) - Sunday, February 12, 2006

Wal-Mart Accounts
The Capital Times (WI) - Thursday, February 9, 2006

Migden proposes `Wal-Mart' bill
The San Jose Mercury News (CA) - Thursday, February 9, 2006

Wal-Mart workers' healthcare
The Miami-Herald (FL) - Thursday, February 9, 2006

Wal-Mart upgrades to attract upscale
MarketWatch - Wednesday, February 8, 2006

Sen. Clinton urges caution on Wal-Mart bank bid
Washington Post (Reuters) - Wednesday, February 8, 2006

Report says Wal-Mart, others cost state millions
Seattle Post-Intelligencer (Associated Press) - Tuesday, February 7, 2006

N.J. wants large employers to spend more on health care
Courier Post (NJ) - Tuesday, February 7, 2006

Utahns Foot Insurance Bill
The Salt Lake Tribune (UT) - Sunday, February 5, 2006

Hillary Clinton Returns Wal-Mart Cash
Las Vegas Sun (Associated Press) - Friday, February 3, 2006

Wal-Mart urged to stock day-after pill
San Diego Union-Tribune (CA) - Friday, February 3, 2006

Wal-Mart should pay fair share of health benefit costs
The Olympian (WA) - Friday, February 3, 2006

Wal-Mart succumbs to opposition
Contra Costa Times (CA) - Friday, February 3, 2006

Next round begins in battle between Wal-Mart, its foes
Statesman Journal (OR) - Thursday, February 2, 2006

State should force Wal-Mart to play fair
Concord Monitor (NH) - Wednesday, February 1, 2006

Thousands of workers in top companies relying on taxpayer-funded health care
Associated Press - Wednesday, February 1, 2006

Women sue Wal-Mart over access to emergency contraception
Associated Press - Wednesday, February 1, 2006

Retailer critics take war to Web
Arkansas Democrat Gazette - Sunday, January 29, 2006

Worker lawsuits stack up at Wal-Mart
Orlando Sentinel - Friday, January 27, 2006

Fed chief assails company banks
Arkansas Democrat Gazette - Friday, January 27, 2006

Greenspan Urges Industrial Bank Exemption Review
Reuters - Thursday, January 26, 2006

Over 3,100 Wal-Mart Workers Got State Health Aid
Seattle Times - Tuesday, January 24, 2006

Bill in Works To Force Wal-Mart To Give Employees Health Benefits
The New York Sun - Monday, January 23, 2006

Wal-Mart Deal Rankles
Rocky Mountain News (CO) - Monday, January 23, 2006

Wal-Mart Goes After Disabled Ex-Worker's Settlement
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Saturday, January 21, 2006

Planning board votes 4-3 against Wal-Mart proposal
Nashua Telegraph (NH) - Friday, January 20, 2006

Wal-Mart Warned on Health Care
Green Bay Press-Gazette - Thursday, January 19, 2006

Court: Case Against Wal-Mart Can Proceed
AP - Thursday, January 19, 2006

Trailing in "race" with Wal-Mart
The Seattle Times - Thursday, January 19, 2006

Teaming Up for Reform
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Wal-Mart Cancels Northridge Store Plans
Los Angeles Business Journal - Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Maryland Puts a Premium on Employer-Paid Healthcare
Los Angeles Times - Tuesday, January 17, 2006

Wal-Mart Prompts Concerns
Salmon Arm Observer (BC) - Friday, January 13, 2006

Local Dems Rally Against Wal-Mart
Central Michigan Life - Friday, January 13, 2006

Criticism greets Wal-Mart proposal
News Observer (NC)- Friday, January 13, 2006

Wal-Mart Dealt Legal Setbacks on U.S. Workers' Rights
Bloomberg - Friday, January 13, 2006

Maryland Sets a Health Cost for Wal-Mart
The New York Times - Friday, January 13, 2006

Maryland measure kicks off care fight; `Fair share' law aims at Wal-Mart coverage
Chicago Tribune - Friday, January 13, 2006

Maryland OKs Wal-Mart health care bill
Reuters - Friday, January 13, 2006

Windsor Wal-Mart project defeated
York Dispatch (PA) - Thursday, January 12, 2006

Volusia may sue Putnam over Wal-Mart
St. Augustine Record (FL) - Thursday, January 12, 2006

Aide: Ehrlich misspoke when he denied Wal-Mart fundraiser
Associated Press - Thursday, January 12, 2006

Judge: Wal-Mart workers can sue over hours
Associated Press - Thursday, January 12, 2006

For One Clerk, Fight for Wal-Mart Bill Is Personal
Washington Post - Thursday, January 12, 2006

Wal-Mart benefits furor is spreading across U.S.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Former Wal-Mart Executive to Admit Fraud
The Washington Post - Saturday, January 7, 2006

Wal-Mart ends automated movie suggestions
Associated Press - Friday, January 6, 2006

Wal-Mart Says December Sales May Crimp 4th-Qtr Profit
Bloomberg - Thursday, January 5, 2006

Wal-Mart in Their Sights, States Press for Health Benefits
The New York Times - Thursday, January 5, 2006

Wal-Mart Focus of Actions by Faith-Based Institutional Investors - Wednesday, January 4, 2006

Wal-Mart aside, retailers on track for December
Reuters - Monday, January 2, 2006

Wal-Mart has worst holiday sales in 5 years
Seattle Post Intelligencer - Monday, January 2, 2006

Group previews Wal-Mart health-care debate
The Capital (MD) - Sunday, January 1, 2006

Residents organize against Wal-Mart
This Week New Albany (OH) - Tuesday, December 20, 2005

Wal-Mart is target of criminal probe over waste
Reuters - Tuesday, December 20, 2005

Wal-Mart foes press on
The Daily Herald (WA) - Monday, December 19, 2005

Groups unite in opposition to Wal-Mart in Ripon
STOCKTON RECORD (CA) - Monday, December 19, 2005

Workers' Nightmare: 'All Companies Should Be Like Wal-Mart'
News Hounds - Sunday, December 18, 2005

Can Wal-Mart change its spots?
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Saturday, December 17, 2005

'Wal-Mart bill' tops lunch menu
The Daily Times (MD) - Friday, December 16, 2005

A sour note for choir at Wal-Mart
Newsday - Friday, December 16, 2005

Show of force — Wal-Mart hearing draws a crowd
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC - Friday, December 16, 2005

Baptist Leaders Call Wal-Mart to Higher Standard - Wednesday, December 14, 2005

City rejects plan for new Wal-Mart
The Wichita Eagle - Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Local ministers join anti-Wal-Mart campaign
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

The Wal-Marting of America - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Wal-Mart Critics Ask 'Where Would Jesus Shop?' - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Opponents of Wal-Mart organize
The Daily Times-Call (CA) - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Wal-Mart's Critics Stage Holiday Protests
Women's eNews - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Longmont Group Fights Opening Of New Wal-Mart
Associated Press - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Seng: I'll veto Wal-Mart plan
Lincoln Journal Star - Tuesday, December 13, 2005

Big Box Balderdash
The New York Times - Monday, December 12, 2005

'Wal-Mart' DVD nears 100,000 sales
Hollywood Reporter - Monday, December 12, 2005

Leaders of Faith Mark Holiday Season by Bashing Wal-Mart - Monday, December 12, 2005

Children protest outside Wal-Mart
The Boston Globe - Monday, December 12, 2005

Wal-Mart policies target of protest
Richmond Times-Dispatch - Monday, December 12, 2005

Wal-Mart Critics: Where Would Jesus Shop?
Associated Press - Thursday, December 8, 2005

Wal-Mart Brings Controversy To Middle Tennessee Community (TN) - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

Wal-Mart rumor has town jittery
Richmond Times-Dispatch (VA) - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

Monte businesses ask to put brakes on Wal-Mart plan
West Central Tribune (ND) - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

Wal-Mart foes not swayed
Columbus Ledger-Enquirer - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

Poll Shows Decline in Wal-Mart's Public Image - Monday, December 5, 2005

Growing opposition frowns on Wal-Mart
USA Today - Monday, December 5, 2005

East-side residents fend off Wal-Mart
Orlando Sentinel - Friday, December 2, 2005

Shoppers, Grannies rage at Wal-Mart
Mountain View Voice - Friday, December 2, 2005

Groups pledge to fight against Wal-Mart plan
Contra Costa Times (CA) - Friday, December 2, 2005

Racial profiling feared at Wal-Mart
St. Petersburg Times - Friday, December 2, 2005

U.S. majority says Wal-Mart bad for America – poll
Reuters - Thursday, December 1, 2005

Critics: More Turning Away From Wal-Mart
Associated Press - Thursday, December 1, 2005

Quit shopping at Wal-Mart
Arizona Daily Wildcat - Tuesday, November 29, 2005

list at site continues...
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Msg: 32
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:15:53 PM

Is this much different from other retail outlets? I doubt it.

Ilbi: You aren't picking up the information being posted here. They ARE different than other retail outlets. You don't see states suing other retail outlets at the same rate they are Wal-Mart. There's a reason for that! Read some of the voluminous information at websites that have been posted FYI.

If you're a fan of Ayn Rand, then I suppose ethics don't matter. However, not just the few people who have posted here, but THOUSANDS of legal actions against Wal-Mart demonstrate it isn't just jealousy because they are genius at making money. It's because they're costing taxpayers too much money to simply exist, because they are engaging in huge volumes of grossly unfair employment practices, because jobs are being LOST in our economy at an alarming rate--a not-insignificant percentage of that trend traceable to Wal-Mart directly, and because of myriad other problems NOT typical to other discount retail outlets...and FOR SURE not comparable in SCALE to similar problems with other discount retail outlets.

~ Panda
Joined: 4/4/2005
Msg: 33
Posted: 2/19/2006 9:53:12 PM
Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged?

Yeah...Walmart is the Antichrist.
Joined: 6/1/2005
Msg: 34
Posted: 2/19/2006 9:57:40 PM

Ilbi: You aren't picking up the information being posted here. They ARE different than other retail outlets. You don't see states suing other retail outlets at the same rate they are Wal-Mart. There's a reason for that!

Yeah, it's called jumping on the bandwagon. Walmart gets some bad press and politicians decide they want to be anti-Walmart so they'll get re-elected. This feeds the bad press and more politicians jump on the bandwagon. We've seen this feeding frenzy before: cigarette manufacturers, gun manufacturers, Microsoft, terrorism, the War on Drugs, etc. At the end of the day the politicians have solved nothing, but made their constituents happy.
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Msg: 35
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Posted: 2/19/2006 9:59:29 PM
No...that's not where I place the Antichrist, garf.

By the way, in my prior post about the site, I forgot to recommend that any taxpayer would be concerned about the facts contained in the PDF download about one-third of the way down this page, titled "Wal-Mart and Cost to Taxpayers fact sheet."

~ Panda
Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 36
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:41:18 PM
I live in a small comunity in BC Canada and walmart just opend their doors i think maybe 2 years ago. I owned a small store, we sold gifts and some clothing. when Walmart opened their door, my sales went way down. because my sales were so low I had to do some thing to pay my bills so I would have no choice but to up the sales price on our more popular items just to stay a float (some things way down so there was no profit). Soon after my business failed. so when a big company like walmart moves in other businesses have to mark up some things and thuse catering to people with money rather then every one. If walmart never opened their door in the first place then there would be better prices and more small businesses that employ more full time people, so people can survive better.
Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 37
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Posted: 2/19/2006 10:46:59 PM
I think the owners of Walmart are smart. they move in to small places and offer like 80 or 100 jobs, but they are all part time and minimum wage. so 80 or 100 different families are now in poverty so they have no choice but to shop in Walmart. so its starts a cycle.......Sad..... I will never work or shop in a Walmart ever. It has ruined the business that i work so hard for.
Joined: 12/20/2005
Msg: 38
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Posted: 2/20/2006 9:16:05 AM
Walmart is like the republicans...
...take from the poor and give to the rich...
its called trickle up affect
the gap between the haves and have nots only widens....
their laughing all the way to the bank...
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Msg: 39
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Posted: 2/20/2006 8:57:39 PM
atrkyhntr: Great phrase, "trickle up effect." Mind if I borrow it from time to time?

~ Panda
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 40
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Posted: 2/27/2006 5:37:16 PM
Poor little Wal-Mart billionaire owners!!! (See article below) They're being forced by states all over the country to provide affordable healthcare coverage access to their ill-paid employees and it's going to make a perceptible-to-the-eye dent their "trickle up effect!" PATHETIC. NOW--since they're having to do the same thing all other big employers are supposed to do--they're concerned about the rising healthcare costs in the country!

~ Panda

Wal-Mart CEO sees 'too much politics' in proposed health bill
By Kris Hudson of the Wall Street Journal
Feb 26, 2006

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) Chief Executive Lee Scott on Sunday denounced as "too much politics" state bills aimed at dictating what large employers spend on health benefits for employees and called on U.S. governors to address rising health-care costs in a broader manner.

"The soaring cost of health care in America cannot be sustained over the long term by any business that offers health benefits to its employees," Scott said yesterday in a speech at the National Governors Association winter meeting in Washington, D.C. "And every day we do not work together to solve this challenge is a day that our country becomes less competitive in the global industry."

Only 46% of Wal-Mart's workers enroll in the company's health-insurance plan. Many others are covered by spouse's policies. But thousands more--nobody has a good number--have no coverage at all or rely on state Medicaid coverage. And state and local officials have been increasing grousing about the costs of providing coverage for uninsured Wal-Mart workers.
In his speech, Scott reiterated impending changes to Wal-Mart's health-care benefits that the company disclosed last week: a shortening of the wait time for part-time employees' eligibility from two years; granting eligibility for children of part-timers; and expanding a low-cost, high-deductible coverage plan from its current limited availability to half of Wal-Mart's 1.36 million U.S. employees by 2007. Wal-Mart also intends to establish in-store health clinics for customers and employees in more than 50 stores. Wal-Mart hasn't divulged when it will implement the changes.

Wal-Mart's critics, primarily union-backed activist groups, note that Wal-Mart is promising the improvements to its benefits at the same time it is shifting its workforce to a greater portion of part-timers. The retailer has acknowledged such a shift in recent months as a means of trimming labor costs and better matching its labor shifts to customers' shopping patterns, but its executives haven't quantified the shift. About 70% to 80% of Wal-Mart's U.S. workers are full-time.

Bentonville, Ark.-based Wal-Mart faces a host of potential health-care mandates in various states after Maryland legislators in January overrode Gov. Robert Ehrlich's veto of a bill proposing to require large employers to spend the equivalent of 8% of their payroll on health-care benefits for employees. That law has since been challenged in court by the Retail Industry Leaders Association.

In tandem with the Maryland override, the AFL-CIO announced it would push similar bills in as many as 30 states. However, several of those bills have fared poorly, with bills failing in Washington, Wisconsin and Colorado, among others. Union groups are optimistic about bills pending in states such as New Jersey and California.

Scott noted in his speech that, while Wal-Mart wants to cover more of its employees, state Medicaid programs have become "far more generous" in covering children. "Are you right to want to make sure that the kids of working families have health coverage--even if it's Medicaid? You bet you are," Scott said. "So, let's commit ... to working together to solve these problems." [rainpanda editorial comment: Wow, does that sound like someone else we know, vintage 1999?]

Governors had differing reactions to Scott's speech in interviews afterward. Christine Gregoire, the Democratic governor of Washington, where a so-called Wal-Mart bill died this month, said that despite Scott's request for a broad response to rising health-care costs "he too shares in the problem." Roughly 20% of Wal-Mart's employees in Washington are enrolled in the state's Medicaid program, she said. And she suspects that the improvements in Wal-Mart's coverage that Scott outlined won't bolster the percentage of Wal-Mart employees on the company's health plans. [rainpanda editorial comment: Go Christine!]

Another Democrat, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, chided Wal-Mart and other unnamed large companies in a statement for "not contributing their fair share."

"American companies must start providing living wages and affordable health benefits to their employees and stop saddling the federal, state, and local governments and the taxpayers with their responsibilities," Gov. Corzine said. "I supported legislation in the U.S. Senate to do just that, and will support state legislation that embodies the principles of fairness and affordability."

Republicans favored allowing the federal government or the market to determine matters of employer-provided health-care coverage rather than the states.

Republican Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio said employer-provided health care isn't an issue for state governments to decide. Ohio lawmakers are considering a Wal-Mart bill. "If there is going to be an effort to address health insurance, it has to be a national solution," Gov. Taft said.

In Massachusetts, legislators are attempting to reconcile competing bills, one of which would mandate that large employers provide specific levels of health-care benefits. "I don't see this as a Wal-Mart problem nor as a business problem," Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican, said prior to Scott's speech. "I see it as an insurance issue that needs to be dealt with, in our case, on a statewide basis."

Colorado Gov. Bill Owens went after the bills' primary supporters. In Colorado, the sponsor of a Wal-Mart bill pulled it from consideration on Friday. The Republican governor called the bills a method for unions to force Wal-Mart's unionized competitors to bolster their health-benefit plans. "If Labor really cares about health care for the millions in the U.S. who do not have health care, why aren't they going after Main Street?" he said. "Why aren't they going after small business?"

Fielding questions from governors after his speech, Scott found fault with Wal-Mart's programs for encouraging healthy habits for employees. "Our health-care program is better than our wellness program," he said. "We have a lot of work to do there."

At least one governor praised Wal-Mart for offering high-deductible health-care accounts and health-care savings accounts for employees. Even so, Scott noted that the rate of Wal-Mart employees signing up for the pre-tax savings plans for health-care costs "is not very high." In fact, the CEO has yet to enroll in the plan himself because the federal paperwork to do so "is too complicated." He suggested that simplifying the application would boost interest in enrollment.

At the NGA conference, Scott met individually with governors from Pennsylvania, Kansas, Tennessee and Arkansas.
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Msg: 41
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Posted: 2/27/2006 5:58:05 PM
...sure anytime...
Walmart.... grrrrrrr

"high-deductible health-care accounts" cannot be serious !!!
..who can afford to pay that working for the peanuts their being paid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Msg: 42
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Posted: 2/27/2006 8:22:08 PM
This is Canada and everyone is yapping like a communist. You either want free enterprise, or you don't. You don't get to pick and choose when it is convenient for you.
And, FYI, all the largest companies in the world have hate sites - they are meaningless. Canada alone has about 60,000 people employed by Wal-Mart, there are bound to be disgruntled people who got fired for their own stupidity chanting the evils of Wal-Mart.

You don't get it...
This is America where I sit and we love high quality debate for the good of Country. Its the American way and we're proud to say it...
The word is "out" on Walmart because people became sick of seeing Mom & Pop stores, the core of American Business, being pushed and shoved to the side in the name of profit. We became disturbed how workers were treated unfairly as their wages/hours worked did not qualify them for medical coverage... I could go on... Its our right, disgruntled or not to question when we see something we don't like...
Have a nice day
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Msg: 43
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Posted: 2/27/2006 8:34:39 PM

I fell big corperations like Wal-mart should not be alowed to move in to small communities. The place that i grew up in only has 30,000 people in it and alot of small independent bussiness. Walmart promises to bring jobs to the comunity. well sure it bring some that are minumum wage and very part time, but at the same time they put alot of smaller business out and they are forced to shut their door. thuse killing more jobs then they produce. not only is the profits leaving the community. I was just wondering what your veiws are on the topic.

Sorry Bill, I don't see it but if its true I'll stay out of the discussion if the OP ask me...
Have a nice day
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Msg: 44
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Posted: 2/27/2006 8:54:40 PM
hahahaa... good one
I must ask... You not a Walmart greeter are you?
Have a nice day
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Msg: 45
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:21:47 PM
"dollar bill" said...

...guarantee staff 12 hours per week...

You AREN'T SERIOUS with this being a defensive statement about Wal-Mart, right? LOL!!! How FREAKING magnanimous of them! Are YOU surviving on 12 hours a week?

By the way, was that $9/hr Canadian or American?

~ Panda
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Msg: 46
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:31:10 PM
Oh dear GOD, they guarantee 12 hrs a week!!!

You know, I heard that Wal-Mart has an open door policy of letting RV's camp overnite in their parking lots. Pretty soon we will see a special section of that parking lot for part-time employees living in cardboard refrigerator boxs who work that guaranteed 12 hrs!

Ugh, 12 hrs...

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Msg: 47
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Posted: 2/27/2006 10:42:08 PM
Yeah, I picture a Wal-Mart greeter with 4 kids thinking "Shit, I only got 12 hrs this week...**stards!"

"Hi, Welcome to Walmart!"

 smile with your eyes
Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 48
Posted: 2/27/2006 11:53:51 PM
*sniff* I smell union propaganda. And now let the flaming commence.

First of all I know I smell it...cuz I was engaged to it...yes...the union that hates Walmart because they chose scabs to do their labor. Ah well..that same union worker I was engaged to..finally understood the benefits of Walmart when trying to scrimp and save for a wedding.

Do I shop there always? Nope..but if I need to get some stuff for my car, house, and fridge...I'll hit the's just quicker..and cheaper. We have no costco (who oddly use union workers for their buildings) HMM Anyway...we don't have I can't go there. So..what's a single mom to do? Gonna go with Toon on this one..I'm going to shop where I get the most bang for my buck. And if the smaller stores wanted to compete..they'd lower their prices...they don't to Walmart I go.

Now come on....can't we all just get along???
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Msg: 49
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:19:32 AM

Do you also realize how insulting you are to the people who do need to work at Wal-Mart, and do rely on them for their living?

People love bashing the giant, but funny how NONE of you hypocrites have done anything to help the situation.

dollar_bill: I am not insulting or bashing ANYONE. I understand why people shop there and why many of them work there. I am ADVOCATING for these people to have better working conditions and benefits. And you make a wrong assumption that I am not doing anything to better the situation.

By the way, one of my friends DOES work at Wal-Mart and not only appreciates my activism (not just posting on forums, either), but encourages me, hopes the various legislations challenging mega-employers (frequently targeting Wal-Mart) will change things for the better. Most of their new-hires are less than 20-hour employees, and according to my friend, most of those people have to maintain another part-time job or two to survive until they can find full-time work with affordable healthcare coverage. I know there are a lot of folks with Wal-Mart who have put in YEARS of working their way up, who are now in management/supervisory positions and are working full time with capability to afford full benefits. If that's your situation...more power to you and congratulations! But I can tell you that in the US, the entry level new hires are rarely offered full time employment, regardless of whether they seek it or not. It's an employment practice to avoid having them be eligible for group health insurance coverage through employment. For each employee that Wal-Mart has in the my state, it costs the state a higher percentage in state assistance than with any other large employer in the state. And that's true in many states...hence, the reason there are now many states bringing lawsuits against WM to force them to change their employment practices.

Now, I don't know much about employment in Canada, but my guess is that, whether you're talking about Canadian or American dollars ($9/hour starting pay for entry level positions at Wal-Mart), it's probably the minimum wage by law in that city or province, or whatever. Our state's minimum wage is one of the five highest (maybe one of the three highest still), so entry level Wal-Mart employees in this state get more than most do throughout the US. But it's less than $9 American/hour and it's still not a living wage. In Canada you have government-supplied healthcare program; I have no idea what it costs you in taxes, but healthcare access for low-income persons in the US is miserable...and Wal-Mart is the worst "offender," not just in my opinion, but supported by the state's statistics.

Just my views. We don't have to agree, but kindly don't make any assumptions about what I do or don't do to improve working conditions in the US, because you don't know! And if you want to defend Wal-Mart, that's fine! Everyone's views should be welcome here. :)

Attention, K-Mart Shoppers...we are now closed.

~ Panda
Joined: 10/2/2005
Msg: 50
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Posted: 2/28/2006 12:59:53 AM
You'll excuse me when I say I don't believe you.

Of no consequence, mr. dollar_bill.

I know it's true, so I'm not concerned about your skepticism or judgmentalism.

No, $9.00 per hour is actually 13% higher than minimum wage.

That's very peculiar. Can't imagine what would provide the impetus in Canada for them to go above the minimum wage...but if you say so [hmmmm]. In the US, the entry-level person at McD's or Wal-Mart will make the same minimum wage...but the McD's employee will have better benefits and better opportunities within.

Costco rocks!

~ Panda
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