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Msg: 310
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Msg: 328
One of the women complaining about Trump, has asked for a list of Trump's actions against women. I didn't actually read the article because this old IPad won't take me past a headline, so maybe someone can post yhe URL.

Comrade Trump will attack North Korea or Iran to change the subject before any of the women he allegedly abused get their day in court.

Trump Accuser Demands Release Of Documents On All His Sexual Assault Allegations

"Summer Zervos, who claims Trump groped her without consent, is suing the president for defamation."

A woman who accused President Donald Trump of unwanted groping has subpoenaed all documents held by his presidential campaign about any harassment and assault allegations against him, BuzzFeed News reported Saturday.

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on “The Apprentice” and one of many women who came forward during the campaign to accuse Trump of harassment or assault, initiated the subpoena as part of her lawsuit against the president for defamation. Zervos decided to sue Trump in January months after the then-presidential candidate denied the allegation and dismissed all of his accusers as liars.

In her bid to establish that Trump “defamed” her, Zervos’s subpoena aims to prove how Trump deliberately tried to discredit her and the other accusers.

The subpoena, which is liable to renew public attention on the numerous allegations against Trump, sets the stage for another legal and political headache for the president.

Zervos’ subpoena requires him to turn over all documents “concerning any accusations that were made during Donald J. Trump’s election campaign for president, that he subjected any woman to unwanted sexual touching and/or sexually inappropriate behavior.”

The order would cover documents about Zervos, as well as other women who accused Trump of groping, including, but not limited to, Jessica Leeds, Mindy McGillivray, Rachel Crooks, Natasha Stoynoff, Temple Taggart, Kristin Anderson, Cathy Heller, Jill Harth, and Jessica Drake.

Zervos’ legal team, which includes nationally renowned women’s rights attorney Gloria Allred, issued the subpoena in March, but it only entered the court record in September.

Trump’s attorneys tried to get the suit dismissed in March on the grounds that the president is immune from being sued while in office. They also tried to dismiss the subpoena in July, arguing that it “seeks wholly irrelevant information intended solely to harass the president.”

During Trump’s campaign, he vowed to sue the women who accused him of assault and harassment, but he has not followed through on the promise.

At least 16 women have publicly accused Trump of forcibly attempting to kiss, grope and have sex with them. Many of those women came forward in October 2016 following the leaked 2005 video of Trump bragging to “Access Hollywood” host Billy Bush that he freely touches women without their consent, infamously stating that he can “grab them by the ****.”

Zervos said that in 2007 Trump summoned her to meet about professional matters on several occasions and then kissed, groped and humped her against her will.

MAGA – Morons Are Governing America.

Memorable Rex Tillerson Quote: "Donald Trump is a F*cking Moron"
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Msg: 311
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Posted: 10/15/2017 7:34:21 PM
the writer clearly doesn't take it seriously and was making fun of Summer.
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 312
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Posted: 10/15/2017 7:42:39 PM

I'm certain you are a very busy woman. I am in a unique situation being that I am the only former Apprentice who operates a business where Mr Trump's supporters can walk in, express their admiration for him and inquire about my experience. Mr Trump has a great deal of support in Huntington Beach, Ca! He has witnessed both my highs and lows operating a small business and I am pleased to report that business is good. Sunny's Restaurant has a long history of making people feel special. We hire a diverse crew and embrace anyone who is honest while working hard. Mr Trump is cut from the same cloth.
I would greatly appreciate reconnecting at this time. He will know my intentions are genuine.

Thank you,

Summer Zervous
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 313
On Fox News today.....
Posted: 10/16/2017 6:03:11 AM
"I'm surprised a large number of women haven't come forward with credible accounts"

>>>which ironically may suggest the ones who have, are credible. If a massive rush of women trying to cash in, came forward, a logical question may be, "how did Chump find enough time in the day to accost that large a number?" Label me an elitist, but of all the things Chump can brag about having in his life...he brags about the P he can grab? Doesn't sound very high class. Sounds more like insecurity at a low-brow level.
Joined: 3/8/2012
Msg: 314
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Posted: 10/16/2017 8:52:16 AM

"which ironically may suggest the ones who have, are credible"

Some were credible - no doubt, but you still didn't give YOUR OPINION about those kisses on the mouth. Major scumbag or pervert? Inappropriate?

You realize a lot of men and women do that quite often. I don't! I'm not from a family of kissers. My ex-wife and another long time GF were: their families were kisses. I'm thankful none of the males tried to kiss me on the lips, but plenty of the women did. Were they wrong? Perverts? They were all unwanted kisses, but I didn't get stressed out.

The following is a list of all the women making allegation. Since it all came out just prior to the election I suspect Hillary's staff might have a lot to do with it. Now I kinda regret not voting for Trump. Next time I vote I'll be researching the candidates. No more voting for all Democrats and just a Republican or two every four years. I've seen the light! Especially now after observing so many Democrats are crazy and appear stupid. Ignorant me (a Democrat, of course) thought only Republicans were dumb and somewhat insane (Ted). I wasn't paying attention!

Ninni Laaksonen 2006 "he squeezed my butt"

Jessica Drake porn star, 2006 "kissed her without her consent and offered her $10,000 to have sex with him" .

Karena Virginia 1998 "she was leaving the US Open when Trump approached her with a group of a few other men. According to Virginia he said, “Hey look at this one!” and “Look at those legs.” Virginia alleged that he then grabbed her right arm with his right arm, then touched the inside of her right breast before reportedly asking, “Don’t you know who I am?”

Cathy Heller around 1997 the first and only time she interacted with Trump, “he grabbed her, went for a kiss, and grew angry with her as she twisted away.”

Kristin Anderson early 1990s Anderson says she was out at a Manhattan nightclub with friends, sitting on a red velvet couch, when she felt Trump reach into her skirt and touch her vagina through her underwear,

Jessica Leeds - that unbelievable story that happened sometime in the early 80s. She was moved from coach to first class and returned to coach after Trump grabbed her tiny boobs and reached under her skirt.

Rachel Crooks 2005 upon meeting Trump, she introduced herself and shook his hand, but he would not let go. Trump began to kiss her on the cheeks, then directly on the mouth.

Mindy McGillivray 2003 I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald,” McGillivray told the Palm Beach Post. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’

Natasha Stoynoff 2005 Trump insisted on giving her a private tour of the grounds, at which point he pinned and kissed her: “Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat .

Jennifer Murphy 2005 He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. ... When he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch. I was like ‘OK,’” she told Grazia. “I didn’t know how to act.” Murphy also told the publication that she still plans to vote for Trump.

Cassandra Searles presumably in 2013 posted a photo on Facebook of her fellow contestants and the question: “Do y’all remember that one time we had to do our onstage introductions, but this one guy treated us like cattle and made us do it again because we didn’t look him in the eyes?

“Jane Doe” 1994 In June, a California woman — “Jane Doe” ― filed a lawsuit alleging that Trump raped her at a party at Epstein's when she was 13 years old. Epstein entertained dozens of high-profile guests, including Revlon chairman Ronald Perelman, real-estate tycoon Leon Black, and even former president Bill Clinton. Is Trump and Epstein’s friendship enough to place him at Epstein’s apartment on the night of the alleged assault? Detective Fisten doesn't think so. "I interviewed hundreds of victims — people who were victimized by Jeffrey, worked with him, were part of his organization," Fisten told me. "I interviewed them, the FBI interviewed him … Trump never came up involved in this part of his life anywhere, at any time, by anybody." Asked why Trump was named in this lawsuit, Fisten said flatly, “They threw Trump’s name in there.”

A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016

Temple Taggart McDowell 1997 when she was first introduced to him, he kissed her. “He kissed me directly on the lips,”

Jill Harth 1993 worked with Trump in the 1990s, but it ended in a bitter legal battle. In a 1997 lawsuit, Harth alleged in court documents that Trump repeatedly sexually harassed her, at one point groping her under the table. She dropped that suit.

Harth told LawNewz that she was “under duress” and “pressured” to file the case. But when questioned about who applied that pressure, she wouldn’t say. So were the sexual harassment allegations true? Harth says: “The allegations were twisted and embellished. Everything could be looked at in different way.”

Harth, who now runs a beauty business, says she’s put the lawsuit behind her, and get this, she says she’d even vote for Donald Trump in the upcoming election — what she calls “supporting a friend.”
“I saw him [Donald] recently, and he said I looked good,” Harth said. “I have nothing but good things to say about Donald.”

Summer Zervos Her account: Zervos, a contestant on season five of “The Apprentice” (and a self-described Republican) said in a press conference with attorney Gloria Allred that Trump assaulted her on several occasions. She said the first time, she met with Trump in his office and he kissed her on the mouth, which Zervos rationalized as simply a strange greeting. On a separate occasion, she said she met with Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel to discuss business opportunities. Instead Trump grabbed her while she sat next to him and began kissing her and touching her breasts, Zervos said in her statement. Trump later walked her into the bedroom, she told reporters, and “began thrusting his genitals.” The two did go on to have dinner and discuss real estate, according to Zervos. When asked why she chose to come forward now, she said: “I want to be able to sleep when I’m 70.”Trump’s response: Nothing yet. When we found out: October 14, 2016When she says it happens: 2007
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Msg: 315
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Posted: 10/16/2017 9:20:20 AM
Unwanted kissing is sexual assault by definition. Your opinion to the contrary Flick is of no moment. Trump is low class, and so, based on your admissions, are you. And your opinion on credibility of the women who claim Trump groped them, or kissed them uninvited, is also meaningless.
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 316
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Posted: 10/16/2017 10:05:43 AM
"but you still didn't give YOUR OPINION about those kisses on the mouth"

>>>true, I forgot I had posted about this in the past and so likely got missed, so i'll repeat my opinions. There are certain actions I wouldn't want some dude doing to my mom, my sister or daughter (if I had either), my gf if I had one, or my female friends. So I consider those things to be crossing the line, if done to other women. A perpetrator might claim afterward they were drunk, but we hold drunk drivers responsible for when they kill someone in a car accident. When I was a kid, my father explained that anything I said or did that I thought would need to be explained afterward...was likely activity I should resist doing. At the time he was talking about jokes, he never repeated a humorous comment or explained it, if you didn't catch it, that was your problem. But I figured his rule/guideline extended to many other things.

I don't come from a family of huggers or kissers, either. Whenever I was approached by a kisser (there was a family of them we spent Christmas with), the kiss was always on the cheek. I can't remember anyone going for my lips, who wasn't sexually interested in me. Maybe i'm unique in that experience, others can chime in.

In my opinion, cracked as it may be, a kiss on the lips is sexual and intimate, a kiss on the cheek or forehead (if you have the flu) or the back of the hand, is not sexual but may be platonically intimate. If a dude ever kissed me on the lips...I would think his intentions were pretty clear. should we physically interact with women the way we physically interact with men? I tend to do so, unless they reach in for a hug, and I figure then I've got permission to hug--but probably in the way they are hugging me, not a bear hug to feel how firm their breasts are.
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 317
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Posted: 10/16/2017 1:28:12 PM
if everyone who attempted to kiss or come on to someone uninvited was quilty of a crime, there would be more kissers than marijuana users in prison.

you people have got to be kidding me.

are they kidding, ben?

interesting take on this:

"""Affirmative consent laws trivialize sexual assault by turning nearly everyone who has ever dated into a sexual offender. For example, if a student throws her arms around her boyfriend and kisses him without his permission, even if has done this dozens of times before, she has violated affirmative consent policies. She can, at some later date, be hauled before a campus judiciary on charges of sexual assault. Victims of sexual assault should fear this new regime, because it will inevitably confuse rightful cases of abuse with capricious accusations.

Journalist Cathy Young writes, “One would think that [our] legislators would have some second thoughts about endorsing a bill that essentially redefines some 95 percent of human sexual encounters as rape (including married sex, since the bill specifically states that a prior relationship creates no presumption of consent).” In an anonymous letter to The Atlantic Monthly, a recent college graduate realized how “out of touch with reality” affirmative consent is when his first college girlfriend threw her hands up in disgust and asked, “How am I supposed to get turned on when you keep asking for permission for everything like a little boy?”""""

yes. there is rape an assault. but that's not it

unless you are out of touch with reality.


this is not about stragers or one's limited personal world.

it is about society at large.

(let the caveats begin. . .)uh. . . continue. . .)

Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 318
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Posted: 10/16/2017 1:34:42 PM
^^^ Maybe you live in the same world as Flick where walks into a bar and a woman he doesn't know Gropes him and holds on for ten minutes.

In my world, I don't know any woman or guy who just walks up to a stranger of the opposite (or same) sex and suddenly kisses them on the lips... that is sexual the least a battery...which is a crime and a civil infraction.

Now have I had women make the first move to kiss me? Too many times to count... but we were on first dates, or had gotten to know one another as "friends" before they would move. Or perhaps we would be at a bar talking and they couldn't help themselves..(happened a few times).... and I'm sure they felt they were invited to do so by our body language, but a stranger just coming up to somebody and kissing them uninvited al la Trump....are you kidding?
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 319
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Posted: 10/16/2017 2:33:07 PM
1) it was ironic that Donna Karan, who profited at dressing women, had to weigh in on how victims "ask for it" by the way they dress....maybe none of the victims wore DKNY?

2) the eventual result of infantizing college students into asking for permission for every little thing, is that they go out into the world after four years of en loco parentis thinking that every sex partner will ask for permission for every move made on them. On the flip side, would we want some stranger kissing our 13 yr old daughter on the lips, or would we find that, y'know, creepy? At what age do we think its appropriate for strangers to be kissing our daughters on the lips without permission?
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Msg: 320
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Posted: 10/16/2017 3:38:56 PM

"if everyone who attempted to kiss or come on to someone uninvited was guilty of a crime, there would be more kissers than marijuana users in prison." "you people have got to be kidding me"

At this years Oscar ceremony I had no idea what Trump did that made Streep and others so furious. I'm amazed to learn it was mostly about several unwanted kisses on the lips. Streep apparently had no problem whatsoever with Polanski raping a 13 year old girl. She made that clear during an Oscar show.

Hypocrites! My guess you noticed. Right - Dee?

I don't recall anyone from the media or Hollywood suggesting it was improper for a man to grab a married woman's body and head, bend her backwards and kiss her lips for 6 seconds while holding the back of her head.

In fact most of the same people condemning Trump for brief kisses cheered and applauded Adrien Brody when he kissed Halle Berry.

That unwanted kiss made the Top 2 Best Oscar Moments of All Time. Really! They must be so proud.

Halle Berry was married to Eric Benét at the time of that unplanned kiss.

In 2003, Adrien Brody planted a surprise kiss on presented Halle Berry. He concluded the six-second smooch with the following declaration: "I bet they didn't tell you that was in the gift bag."

“That was not planned. I knew nothing about it,” explained Halle. “I was like, ‘What the f--k is happening right now?’ That was what was going through my mind,” she recalled of Brody pulling her in for a kiss. “I just f--king went with it.”

When host Andy Cohen asked the Oscar winner if she enjoyed the kiss, she said, “I don’t know, I was too focused on what the f--k is going on right now. I don’t even know!”
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Msg: 321
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Posted: 10/16/2017 3:54:53 PM

Streep apparently had no problem whatsoever with Polanski raping a 13 year old girl. She made that clear during an Oscar show

This quote by you Flick shows there is something seriously wrong going on in your head. You are completely and totally divorced from reality, and maybe that is why you lie, like trump, with such easy abandon. You don't even know it. But if you want to use this kind of reasoning, than everybody who voted for Trump has "no problem whatsoever with Trump being a P... grabber".

Ask the local Trump supporters how they feel about that?
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Msg: 322
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Posted: 10/16/2017 4:47:16 PM
Well LOL... I mean popp.

Sounds like you agree with Ben. That it is all ridiculous.
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 323
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Posted: 10/16/2017 6:22:53 PM
Oh the liberal hypocrites in here, not saying a word about corrupt hillary and her acceptance of money from certain countries and then you have jimmy kimmel's hypocrisy and disgusting acts....Shhhh, you won't hear a liberal that is disgusted with either one......YIKES!!!
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 324
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Posted: 10/16/2017 7:42:59 PM

not saying a word about corrupt hillary.... is the "paid" troll (by Russians) blathering on.......talking about his assigned topic.

The hallmark of a troll, is to keep talking about his "talking point"...regardless of the topic at hand!
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Msg: 325
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Posted: 10/16/2017 9:24:30 PM

if everyone who attempted to kiss or come on to someone uninvited was quilty of a crime, there would be more kissers than marijuana users in prison.

Yeah, but that's too open-ended. It depends what made it happen that notes whether it was OK, inappropriate, or more than just inappropriate. Assuming that a gal is just a silly liberal whiner because she says a guy crossed the line / violated her on the sexual level because he was kissing her when she didn't want it -- would be just as silly as an actual liberal whiner assuming any time a gal is kissed where she doesn't like the guy in-that-way is a tride & true sexual assault.

If guy & girl are out on a date, and to cap it off, the guy goes in for the kiss -- even if he thinks there's a good chance she's not that into him, she's not giving the invitation signals At All, but he wants a definitive answer -- No, that's not crossing any line. A guy walks into a bar, then walks up to some (random-ish) girl and grabs her by the waist and throws his lips against hers -- nom-nom-nom, uhhhh yeah, that is. Or as a job interview is finishing up and the guy interviewer does something like that to the pretty interviewee. So there's a big difference between one scenario vs the other. And of course, there's gray areas too.

Any time you have something like this, where Many different people are coming out against a certain big-time individual doing some bad sh!t, yeah, you can bank that there'll always be a few where it's exaggerated and many times Believed by they themselves that the exaggerated version actually happened since it was long ago & the like, when really it'd be pretty much no wrong or a very mild issue in reality... but it'd be a$$inine for one to assume all or virtually all who are claiming foul with their own individual stories are in that category.

And I am no fan at all of the over-arching sexual assault bill proposals out there. They throw the baby out with the bath water on a laughable level sometimes.
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 326
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Posted: 10/17/2017 4:23:46 AM
Liberals can resist gloming on a PC / COOL/ In Vogue? issue as much as they can resist

using foul language or ad hominem.

So, yeah, I question 99 the claims.
( I give 1% to stories that I haven't heard yet. Certainly not those in message #333)

It is clearly now a power grab

getting on the bandwagon

or they didn't like him all along.

See Kate Winslet, who said:

"""“But that’s how he operated. He was bullying and nasty. Going on a business level, he was always very, very hard to deal with - he was rude.”"""

( I can imagine Kate punching him if he tried anything with her.)

And therefore, all this leads to a


Did the person now leading the completion destruction of the Weinstein studios push this or leak a lot of it, knowing that actors of the female variety couldn't resist getting in on the drama?
Those people do eat their own.

Sure. He probably was inappropriate with a few. Was it rape or sexual assault? Ah. That is what I question.


Don't hate Mayim Balik

Donna Karan has morphed into apologizing for not supporting women subjected to "sexual harassment."
That is a very different dog from Sexual assault , as I pointed out in an earlier post about liability of employers.

And how does Karan walk that line between being the friend of the wife who was married to the, no question no question about it, DOG and adulterer that is Weinstein, and yet recognizing that many women volunteer for the casting couch or walk along the edges hoping not to fall off?

I watched the local news this morning. It was 45 degrees and the weather woman had on a halter top. Really? Yeah, we should take you seriously.
( Is Trump causing the cold weather?)

All that about "a woman can wear what she wants" is not valid in the face of reality ( And you look not that bright wearing a halter top talking about how cold it is outside and the winter weather on its way. )
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Msg: 327
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Posted: 10/17/2017 5:53:54 AM

DOG and adulterer that is .....

Trump fits this^ description pretty well himself, many might say.....funny ya never ascribed it to him......wonder why?
I guess your handlers offered you a raise
Joined: 3/8/2012
Msg: 328
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Posted: 10/17/2017 6:02:48 AM

Sounds like you agree with Ben. That it is all ridiculous.

What's ridiculous, Dee?

In one thread I listed all the sexual misconduct allegations against Trump. Only two women accused him of grabbing them under their skirts. Both women weren't reliable and their stories were illogical. Did I suggest otherwise? By posting those allegation means I believe them?

What did I ever write that suggested I agreed with the troll on anything?

The kissing stories were believable. So what! People in Hollywood and on TV shows have been kissing like that for decades, yet not one protest about men kissing women until weeks prior to an election.

Isn't Brody kissing Halle a good example of Hollywood not thinking it's wrong to kiss a married woman without her permission? They laughed and applauded. The host even asked her if she enjoyed the kiss. I bet her husband didn't like Brody treating his wife like that. Perhaps Halle's husband's race made it acceptable.

Not one person HERE is going to say what Brody did was outages. Apparently some believe all of Trump's kisses were outrages and also means he grabbed them under the skirt without his victims claiming he did. Has any member given a plausible example of Trump grabbing a woman under her skirt? I asked - no response except for Trump saying they let celebrities grab them there. Of course that means to THEM Trump grabs hundreds, maybe thousands. Why provide a name? He's guilty, guilty, guilty. Kinda like that member constantly quoting someone without any proof whatsoever. Perhaps he has no idea what 'quote' means. If he knew how to use a dictionary, he might find out.

It's all political. Most voters realized that at the time of the election. They're not as gullible and stupid as popp. Very few (if any) are! Only an idiot would brag about having a 20/20 IQ and think 'ozzie' Japanese pilots committed 'Harry Harry' during the war.
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Msg: 329
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Posted: 10/17/2017 6:23:00 AM
There's an amusing meme on FB from a comedian suggesting men refrain from telling women, anything they wouldn't want to hear from another man's mouth in a prison shower :) Funny how comedians now are the new moral compass. Pretty soon they may replace our old heros, and become the people brave enough to "speak truth to power".

The Mayim Balik article was interesting, yes, entertainment and fashion walk on the double-edged sword of profiting on eye candy. Like a stripper, we are to look, but not touch. If a celebrity known for their looks flirts with us, we should take it as a compliment, we got something that others fantacize about. Personally, I never liked how in those black and white movies, the hero grabs the heroine, forces a kiss on her, and she struggles...just painful to watch, sure seems like an assault. But wait, she gives it that she always wanted it, and he's smart enough to think for the both of them, or is she just overpowered? or is it just all to be taken in as the thinking of the time, me Tarzan, you Jane?

How many people want a man kissing their wife on the lips? How about someone interviewing their 18 yr old daughter for a job, and then kissing her on the lips? would that seem appropriate?

Weather forecasters, as well, are meant to entertain as they talk about the facts. Maybe b/c otherwise, who wishes to listen to someone who constantly predicts the wrong thing? Maybe we won't get so angry with the woman in the halter-top if we just think she's too ditzy to realize to dress appropriately.

Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 330
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Posted: 10/17/2017 6:34:00 AM

HE agrees with YOU.

anyway . . .

no one is angry at the weather woman.

anger in place of disagreement is a leftist thing.

she is pitiful and can't whine about not being taken seriousky.

well, she can whine, but who should care.



has anyone denied that Trump is an adulterer?

again, person with flaws who will build my house


person with other flaws who will destroy it.

i pick the former.
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 331
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Posted: 10/17/2017 7:27:05 AM
anger replacing disagreement is a human thing, as nearly every Chump tweet shows.

Meanwhile, upon further reflection, I recognized an irony in Mayim Bialik's article (Alas, the comment section on it is closed) local TV station plays BigBangTheory reruns as I cook dinner, so I've noticed one of the many running gags in the show was, when her character gets drunk and then says inappropriate things about the breasts of another character, Penny the sex object, or tries to get Penny into an erotic scenario.

Indeed, no one wants the flawed person who is out to destroy a house and literally flood the neighborhoods' houses with climate denial, and that's why millions more voted against Chump. They could clearly see what an increasing number of Republicants are beginning to finally see now.
Joined: 3/8/2012
Msg: 332
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Posted: 10/17/2017 7:33:25 AM


HE agrees with YOU.

Nah! He NEVER agreed with me. He's a troll. I'm surprised you never noticed. He mindlessly attacks me (like he does to you) with foolish BS and insults. That's what trolls do.

I'll give the troll credit: I believe he attempts to read the postings he's commenting on. His problem is 'he doesn't understanding what's written'. Like most stupid people, he has a serious reading comprehension problem. Also if he's not aware of something, he believes it's not true without bothering to check out the facts.

Apparently the jerk isn't aware of Meryl Streep's long winded attack on Trump during this years Oscar show. When the known child rapist (Polanski) won his Oscar, Streep gave him a standing ovation with a huge smile on her face. Those are facts! The troll believes they're lies. Why? Because he's a moron. Morons or trolls never agree with me.

I suspect you didn't read what I wrote - perhaps just a quick scan, if that. Trust me, the troll isn't agreeing with anything I wrote.
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 333
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Posted: 10/17/2017 7:40:41 AM
You see, you just double down on your lack of critical thinking ability Flick. That people admire Polanski's artistic work does not mean they approve of rape. Your mind is always seeing things that aren't there, a la Trump. Example...mucking politicians are responsible for your being beaten by cops three times before you were nineteen...once because you wouldn't lead them to a beer party. Lol..what a fuktard you are.
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 334
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Posted: 10/18/2017 12:24:26 AM
By Sara A. Carter

Fifteen months before the 13 members of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, known as CFIUS, approved the sale of the Canadian company Uranium One to Russia’s nuclear arm giant Rosatom, the FBI began investigating persons who were connected to the Russian state corporation. The FBI said in court documents and in interviews conducted by Circa that by 2010 they had gathered enough evidence to prove that Rosatom connected officials were engaged in a global bribery schedule that included kickbacks and money laundering. FBI officials said the investigation could have prevented the sale of Uranium One, which controlled 20 percent of U.S. uranium supply under U.S. law.

The deal which required approval by CFIUS, an inter-agency committee who reviews transactions that leads to a change of control of a U.S. business to a foreign person or entity that may have an impact on the national security of the United States. At the time of the Uranium One deal the panel was chaired by then-Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and included then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder.

By the time CFIUS approved the sale of Uranium One to Rosatom the FBI’s investigation had already gathered substantial evidence of bribery and kickbacks against a Russian national, Vadim Mikerin, who was then a top official with Rosatom’s Tenex subsidiary, according to court documents. The FBI said while at Tenex, which was located in Maryland, Mikerin was involved in multiple bribery and kickback schemes.

In a 2015 affidavit, FBI officials said Mikerin, “with the consent of higher level officials at Tenex and Rosatom (both Russian state-owned entities), would offer no-bid contracts to U.S. businesses in exchange for kickbacks in the form of money...” made to offshore accounts, stated the affidavit in support of a search warrant. Mikerin pled guilty to the allegations.

Affidavit in support of an application under rule 41 for a warrant to search

The Justice Department didn’t move forward an indictment with prosecution of bribery by people tied to Rosatom, through subsidies and other entities, until 2014 after CFIUS approved the sale of Uranium One, leaving the American public without knowledge of the Russian company’s allegedly illegal actives as it went to procure one-fifth of U.S. uranium supply.

In August 2015, Mikerin pled guilty to money laundering conspiracy involving violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, according to a Department of Justice press release. By the end of 2015, four defendants were indicted in the years long investigation, according to court records and a Justice Department.

United States of America v. Vadim Mikerin - Original Indictment

“Mikerin admitted that he conspired with Daren Condrey, Boris Rubizhevsky and others to transmit approximately $2,126,622 from Maryland and elsewhere in the United States to offshore shell company bank accounts located in Cyprus, Latvia and Switzerland with the intent to promote the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations,” according to a DOJ press release announcing the charges against the then defendants in 2014. “Mikerin further admitted that the conspirators used consulting agreements and code words to disguise the corrupt payments.”

United States v. Vadim Mikerin - Final Plea Agreement

Condrey was an executive of an American trucking company, Transportation Logistics International (TLI) based in Fulton, Maryland, which was authorized at the time to move Russian uranium around the United States, according to contracts and documents reviewed by Circa. Condrey pled guilty in June 2015, to conspiring to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) and conspiring to commit wire fraud.

Rubizhevsky, a Russian national, who was the president of NEXGEN security, in New Jersey, worked as a consultant for Mikerin and Tenam, according to court documents. He aided in the scheme to get the contracts awarded to TLI, according to the Justice Department. Rubizhevsky pled guilty to conspiracy to commit money laundering in June 2015.

"A Russian state-owned enterprise responsible for selling Russian nuclear materials, contracted with a U.S. public relations expert in 2009 to provide public relations and marketing consulting services to TENEX in the United States," states a court warrant. "The contractor approached the FBI and received authorization to participate in the scheme."

Victoria Toensing, a lawyer for the FBI informant, said her client “is not only afraid of the Russian people, but he is afraid of the US government because of the threats the Obama administration made against him."

My client was providing information for a couple years before this really got voted on by CFIUS, and here’s the rub. High-ranking law enforcement officials in the Obama Administration knew that there was corruption in this company and that information about the corruption in this Russian entity never made it to CFIUS, evidently, because CFIUS authorized the purchase in 2010.
Victoria Toensing, lawyer
Toensing said, “My client was providing information for a couple years before this really got voted on by CFIUS, and here’s the rub. High-ranking law enforcement officials in the Obama Administration knew that there was corruption in this company and that information about the corruption in this Russian entity never made it to CFIUS, evidently, because CFIUS authorized the purchase in 2010.”

According to a 2010 press released from Tenex, a Rosatom subsidy, the company had signed “10 -long term Enriched Uranium Product supply contracts with eight U.S. utilities exceeding $4.3 billion and is aiming to expand its operations in the USA and beyond.”

By late October 2010, “Technabexport (TENEX) opened its first subsidiary in the United States,” known as Tenam Corp., which was a part of the Russian state nuclear arm Rosatom, according to press releases and documents.

One of the points of contention for people investigating the Clinton's connections with Russia and the Uranium One deal was a $500,000 payment given to Bill Clinton by the Russian bank Renaissance Capital for a speech he gave in Moscow in June 2010. Analysts at Renaissance Capital, who paid the Bill Clinton for the speech, spoke highly of Uranium One’s stock saying in July 2010 research report that it was “the best play” in the uranium markets. The speech by Bill Clinton and the 2010 research report by Renaissance Capital happened while CFIUS, of which Hillary Clinton was a sitting member, was looking at the Uranium One sale to Rosatom. A spokesperson for Hillary Clinton did not return calls seeking comment and no evidence has been presented the speech payment made to Bill Clinton had any connection to the passage of the deal. Officials at Renaissance Capital could not be reached immediately for comment.

At the time of the investigation did any of the U.S. law enforcement, intelligence or other agencies involved in the case inform the CFIUS board of the ongoing investigation? If not, why not? If they were informed, why did they make the decision they did to approve the Uranium One transaction? Did the president, himself, know?
U.S. official
“At the time of the investigation did any of the U.S. law enforcement, intelligence or other agencies involved in the case inform the CFIUS board of the ongoing investigation? If not, why not? If they were informed, why did they make the decision they did to approve the Uranium One transaction? Did the president, himself, know?,” a U.S. official who worked counterintelligence cases related to Russia told Circa.

The bribery schemes included delivering thousands of dollars in yellow envelopes, laundering tens of thousands of dollars in briefcases or wiring thousands of dollars through shell companies through the Seychelle Islands, Latvia, Cyprus and Switzerland to name a few.

During the time of the FBI’s investigation which began in 2009, Tenex was able to expand its American foothold with $6 billion in new utility contracts, according to documents and news reports obtained by Circa.

The case being built against Mikerin in 2010 was under the supervision of Maryland U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, then an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general. According to court documents, the case was also handled by then Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is currently the deputy FBI director under Trump. The Department of Justice and the FBI would not comment on the bribery investigation of Mikerin.

Other agencies, including the CIA, State Department and U.S. Department of Energy were also involved in their own extensive investigations during that same period regarding Rosatom, according to several U.S. officials who spoke to Circa. It is unclear what the end results were of those investigations.

"One thing is certain, other agencies must have known what was going on but more importantly, did the CFIUS members?" said one U.S. official, who was not authorized to speak on the matter.

Speaking of Russian/US involvement BEFORE Nov 6, 2016....YIKES, this story is gonna have some legs....YIKES!!! How is it going obama/clinton???
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