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 Strider886
Joined: 3/28/2006
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would you ever date someone who has an std?Page 2 of 15    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15)
It happen's, half the time its because people think they may have something but they are too embarrassed to get it checked. They then don't tell their next partner.

Do the responsible adult thing, get yourself checked EVERY 6 months, regardless of who you've been with and for how long. You owe it to yourself and to your lover.

Ignorance is the reason that STDs and STI's still have a grip on our modern society.
 privatenites
Joined: 11/12/2005
Msg: 52
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 12:13:28 AM
@*jenni*

Nice try? I wasn't "trying" for anything - that quote came from a medical research article affectionately entitled:

"Sexually Transmitted Infections 1999 Oct;75(5):317-9"

-Transmission of HPV through routes other than sexual is definitely possible. One may be exposed by something as innocent as shaking hands with someone as proven in 'Sexually Transmitted Infections'-

Detection of human papillomavirus DNA on the fingers of patients with genital warts. Sonnex C, Strauss S, Gray JJ, Department of GU Medicine, Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, England: “14 men and eight women with genital warts had cytobrush samples taken from genital lesions, finger tips, and tips of finger nails. Samples were examined for the presence of HPV DNA by the polymerase chain reaction.

HPV DNA was detected in all female genital samples and in 13/14 male genital samples. HPV DNA was detected in the finger brush samples of three women and nine men. The same HPV type was identified in genital and hand samples in one woman and five men. This study has identified hand carriage of genital HPV types in patients with genital warts. Although sexual intercourse is considered the usual mode of transmitting genital HPV infection, our findings raise the possibility of transmission by finger-genital contact. Condoms offer little protection against HPV since any skin-to-skin contact can result in transmission of the virus."


I prefer to read and keep informed about what's going on in the world around me - granted you can't believe everything you read, but I feel a whole lot better for the knowledge that a speeding train may be approaching - then to jump right out in front of it blindly!!
 Mystacall
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 53
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 12:51:13 AM
gee i posted this same question about a month ago and it got pulled...but to answer your question..it depends which one ...aids? genital warts? herpes? all different and ya know what ..so many people have them and don't even know it! so anyone who says ew no way they probably would test positive on one or another...with the blood test! So it depends on the person and how i feel about them and what they have.
 Mystacall
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 54
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 12:56:37 AM
hey Coy did you know they have non latex polyurethane condoms that are stronger than latex? I am allergic too and there great...diurex and trojan make them only thing is if your well blessed...they don't come in hungryman size!!! mysta
 fiery redhead
Joined: 2/25/2006
Msg: 55
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 1:25:52 AM
bluntly...no, no, no,and No.

and, anyone who intends to be with me, condom or not, will submit to a visual and/or physical inspection for lesions.
 crazycurlz
Joined: 7/29/2005
Msg: 56
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 1:29:51 AM
crazycurlz-I think the operative word here is "has".

I'm not going to knowingly have sex with someone that I know HAS an std.


fantasyflavor, the operative phrase here is "would you date", not would you have sex with. you can date someone who has an std...whether you would have sex is another question entirely, now isn't it?
 privatenites
Joined: 11/12/2005
Msg: 57
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 3:59:20 AM
so true crazycurlz^^^

and for good measure throw in the 'would you "ever" date' for all the adamant posters on here that said HELL NO

odds are if they've been on 4 dates in recent months - 3 of them were infected with something - knowingly or NOT

Reading these threads, I’m beginning to see why this has become such a widespread problem, it was nice to read the few posts that came from an intelligible standpoint
 badboy - goodboy
Joined: 1/25/2006
Msg: 59
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 8:17:57 AM
they should be marked so you know whot they are, a tatoo on the leg would do the job

so that if they try to sleep with you and give you an STD you avaid it

why should we risk it

...
 jeezaba
Joined: 4/2/2006
Msg: 62
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 9:33:48 AM
if the men i want to go out with i practice safe sex using a condom and ask question about his sexual history there good in hiding things i take more precautions by letting him know your playing with fire i wont take any dangerous risk of having sex with a men you need to know his back ground if he single which is a lied they use a word celibate they might have a long list of sexual partner of plenty as 100 or more it depends on the men sex ego too there addicted to passion with out brains in there head crab lice is curable you take a medcine to treat it and shave your private parts and never go out with a condom too that was a big mistake of my friend and thats so filty so i agree with the original post here ifa men goes out with mei im going to drill him to go with me to the police station take a lied dector test and go with me to the doctor to get tested also to get a background check on him if he disagree ask a male friend to be the spy to see if he tell the truth or back out ona lied men are very tricky on there plans to have sex with us i aint no booty call or one night stand they will a hell from me this girl dont play shit its better to be clean and safe and take full proof precaution some std can causes out breaks .som take yrs to acturaly look for a cure
i aint taking no chance no my self life to short to messed up .
 Kaltes
Joined: 12/19/2005
Msg: 63
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/6/2006 9:38:01 AM
Just to add to some of the previous posts on HPV. There is NO FDA approved test for men on this. So if your male partner says he is STD-free, and even shows the lab results, he is not including HPV.

There are 100 strains of the virus, so even if your body has developed the anti-bodies for one strain, it has 99 to go.

15,000 women in the US die of HPV related cervical cancer per year. Get your PAP test every year ladies. A woman can test neg. for HPV for years and still have the virus. It can develop from LSIL to HSIL to cancer in less than 12 months.
 peace 14
Joined: 11/9/2005
Msg: 64
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/7/2006 10:30:43 PM
There is no way in the world I would have intercourse with someone nowing that they have one! I don't want to go through the trouble in curing it or just living with it for the rest of my life!
There are so many things out there now you never now when you are going to get one. Its always to be safe than sorry.
I have never had one and been tested for the HPV. I had a friend that had it and went through the chain of partners and found that we were connected through the grapevine so I went and got tested.
Here is one fact that no one has mentioned yet. Did you know that you can get CRABS by sitting on the same toilet as someone with them, or even trying on a pair of pants in a store that someone had tried on with crabs.
 molonel
Joined: 12/20/2005
Msg: 65
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/7/2006 11:02:35 PM

Just to add to some of the previous posts on HPV. There is NO FDA approved test for men on this. So if your male partner says he is STD-free, and even shows the lab results, he is not including HPV. - kaltes


That's correct. Even though I get tested at least once a year, and have never exhibited any symptoms, I remind women of this when have "That talk" about STDs. The only test for HPV in men is visual inspection, and many strains of HPV exhibit no visual symptoms.

I think sometimes people are all too willing to believe someone who says, "I'm clean" without doing any research on the subject.
 Mystacall
Joined: 3/4/2006
Msg: 66
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/8/2006 12:38:19 AM
To all you people out there who say ewww no way!! I know of a couple of people male and female who have an std and they sleep with whoever...and don't tell... so don't be so quick to say eww no way, because you just never know now do ya!!! I am a CNA and Do Hair and have to take continuing education on this every 2 years..caveat emptor = buyer beware..And don't think a condom will protect you because it can be on someones arm...leg...thigh...in their blood..saliva...so best thing is to be educated and not so quick to judge cause one day ...it may be YOU!
 molonel
Joined: 12/20/2005
Msg: 67
Oh, and ...
Posted: 4/8/2006 1:24:04 AM

Nice try? I wasn't "trying" for anything - that quote came from a medical research article affectionately entitled .. blah blah etc. etc. - privatenites


The reason she probably said, "Nice try" is because of your use of selective quotation. None of your original quotes were attributed.

Take this one, for example:


“Transmission of HPV through routes other than sexual is definitely possible. One may be exposed by something as innocent as shaking hands with someone as proven in Sexually Transmitted Infections” - privatenites


Your first quote comes, not from a peer-reviewed medical journal, but rather this site:

http://www.phend.co.za/viraphend/HPV.htm

It's an advertisement for a product called Viraphend.

You didn't even quote their caveat:

"HPV is not always transmitted sexually. However, the types that cause anogenital warts (also called condylomata acuminata, venereal warts, genital warts, vaginal warts, and penile warts) and cervical dysplasia are most commonly sexually transmitted, like low risk HPV types 6, 11, 42, 43, and 44. For this reason HPV is classified as an STD (sexually transmitted disease) and can be transmitted through sexual intercourse, oral sex, anal sex, or any skin-to-skin contact."

They slip that "any skin-to-skin contact thing" in at the end, just in case you're not paranoid enough, already.

Later down the page is the hook:

"PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FOR HPV: Preventative maintenance with Viraphend™ is particularly important if you have ever had HPV problems such as cervical dysplasia or genital warts because these problems may be an indication of a weak immune system. If you do not have cervical dysplasia or genital warts, and you want to take Viraphend™ simply as "preventative maintenance", I recommend 2 caps/day orally, and, for women, one capsule per WEEK vaginally, except during menstruation, indefinitely."

The quote you used in your second post on the subject came from here:

http://health-science-report.com/cgi-bin/alotek.cgi?topics=1&article=51

Now, you're trying to make it sound like you can get genital warts from a simple handshake. But the study you're quoting - but, interestingly enough, not linking for us to read, ourselves - posits perhaps a 30 percent transmission rate from a mother infected with HPV to the child she gives birth to:

"We present evidence for vertical transmission from at least 30% HPV positive mothers to their infants, resulting in persistent infection in children. That the mother is the source of infant infection has been confirmed by DNA sequencing. We also discuss the evidence for oral HPV-16 infection in children."

Now, I'm going to out on a limb here, and say that a child who has passed through its mother's womb has had FAR more intimate contact with her than I have when I shake hands with her.

Is it POSSIBLE? Perhaps. Anything is possible.

Does it warrant the sort of paranoia you seem to be implying? Not by any evidence you've presented.
 badboy - goodboy
Joined: 1/25/2006
Msg: 68
Oh, and ...
Posted: 4/16/2006 4:00:55 PM
sure if the had HIV even better I would love to get some...mmm mmm sounds wonderful
 Seeing_Stars
Joined: 3/11/2006
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would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/16/2006 4:18:43 PM
No I would not. However, what is the chance they'd actually tell you they had one if they did? I find the majority of men don't even want to go get tested so maybe they don't even know if they have one!
 Seeing_Stars
Joined: 3/11/2006
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would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/16/2006 4:23:28 PM

Condoms don't prevent 90% of STI's, there's still direct contact unless you're stretching that thing all the way around your hips.


Yeah, there's always stuff like crabs and herpes that could "get around" condoms. There's always the female condom but that's really expensive and hard to use.
 Seeing_Stars
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Posted: 4/16/2006 4:29:13 PM

Once I met a guy who had HIV. He never told me till on our first date.


This is really tough. I mean the guy deserves credit for being so honest and upfront about it. He could've been an a-s-s-hole and not said anything until after you've slept with him or something, or worse, never say anything at all. At the same time, I agree I probably wouldn't want to date him because I'd be scared too. It's a bad catch 22. I guess the best thing to do is to trust no one. When starting a relationship with someone, MAKE them get tested before you sleep with them and if they refuse, they must have something to hide.
 Seeing_Stars
Joined: 3/11/2006
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would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/16/2006 4:50:15 PM

“Transmission of HPV through routes other than sexual is definitely possible. One may be exposed by something as innocent as shaking hands with someone as proven in Sexually Transmitted Infections”


After so much has been spent educating people on disease transmission, it saddens me that some people still believe you can catch STD's by shaking someone's hand! The ONLY time people can catch any kind of virus from shaking hands is if 1) They have cuts or open sores on their hands where the virus can get through (and this is still pretty rare) and 2) If they don't wash their hands and put their hands to their mouths (or any other opening in their body - which is again, very rare). If you're still in doubt, call your public health region and they will confirm this.
 Letsplaydr
Joined: 4/16/2006
Msg: 74
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/16/2006 6:10:03 PM
If you're happy and you know it, wash your hands!!!
 ChrisHoogstraten
Joined: 3/30/2006
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would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/16/2006 8:52:56 PM
There is absolutly no way I would consider dating a person with an STD. why spread more infection?!
 arlie1969
Joined: 2/7/2006
Msg: 82
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/28/2006 4:06:49 AM
if my feelings for that person were genuine than definently,no one sets out to get something it just happens,every please be safe ,but dont punish some one for being a victum of a bad situation....
 Esperanza143
Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 83
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/28/2006 4:57:53 AM
Statistically over 70% of those who are saying "no way, not me" are carrying HPV and do not even know it and never will. Only apx. 30% will every have outbreak...so don't all be such puritans.There is a huge potential for all unless you practice the strictess standards of universal precautions.
 ripley65
Joined: 7/29/2005
Msg: 84
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/28/2006 5:30:38 AM
not only no,,but hell no!
 RBM
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 89
would you ever date someone who has an std?
Posted: 4/29/2006 6:10:15 AM
Originally posted by Traylynn


Thankyou

someone that is an educated person thinks before he speaks... I wrote this for a herpes forum but it applies here:

I am so disappointed to hear such negative attitudes about stuff like this. Hopefully people will become more educated and lighten up.

First off, how many people suffer from cold sores? Big ugly facial sores that are exposed to the public and what...that's totally acceptable right? Where do you think herpes come from? What's on the face is the same below the waist!!!!!!

Most of the time people who have it down below came from some one's lips on the face...however North can go South but South doesn't go north....HSV2 doesn't like it cold so doesn't live on the lips so you are relatively safe with oral, not getting it on your face from down below so feel free to tease!

Yes there is a possibility to spread it without a outbreak, but I have friends...she has had it many years, have been given the gift that keeps on giving, yet her partner of 11 years hasn't got it yet and they have bare raw sex, always have always will.... another girlfriend has had it 20 years married 8 years, two children and nothing...and they have great sex! A male friend has it, did pass it once because he didn't know he had it!

1 out 5 people have the virus. If you think you haven't been with someone who has it, or a form of, you are sadly mistaken!!! If you think you can't get it because your partner is "clean" wrong! And YES! Most people who have Herpes DO NOT KNOW! Sometimes you can have a rash, a bump, an insect bite type thing, a scratch, a numb feeling, chaffing, a yeast infection and guess what.......that could be HERPES! And it's possible to only have it once and never have a symtom again....BUT YOU HAVE IT FOR LIFE! Doesn't mean that your partner will ever get it and doesn't mean that you will ever pass it and it also doesn't mean that you know that you have it!

EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE!!!! THIS IS REALITY 70% OF OUR TEENAGE POPULATION HAS A FORM OF IT, 1 OUT OF 5 PEOPLE HAVE IT!!!! 80% OF INFECTED VICTIMS DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE IT!

Do you know that chicken pox, shingles, cold sores, are all Herpes related! Don't be so quick to judge. Judging is ignorance. Get educated!

I wouldn't have a problem dating someone and sleeping with someone with Herpes. There is medication and precautions. We should all be taking precautions to begin with! Nobody wants to get a virus or a disease, but who has the rights to condemn a victim of an STD? Would you cast out a cancer victim?

Besides, you are at risk all the time for STD's, besides Chlamydia...which is highly transmissable and all over out there...how would you like that in your mouth?, there is crabs and gardnella, syphlis, gonorrhea, candidiasis which is rampet, warts, HSV, PID,Trichonomiasis, HBLV, PPV, Hep B Hep C, HIV, AIDS, ONE HELL OF A WAY TO LEARN THE ALPHABET ISN'T IT??????

My point is, get educated, you are not exempt from this...people with Herpes are not bad people and people who are scared of it aren't either, but don't judge and don't think for a second that you can't have a normal and healthy sex life with a Herpes infected partner. A person is more than the herpes they have. Remember this if you don't remember anything else

A COLD SORE ON THE FACE IS NO DIFFERENT BELOW THE WAIST!!!!

Get educated and give it a break....
Traylynn

I hope that all of you that are ignorant to today's society will not only get educated and also realize that this is what today is...this is what it brings and how dare you condemn someone for being victim! You may one day get some gift that you never wanted. And guess what...you will still want to be a "person" and you will need love too!


Exactly Traylynn!

There is no lack of information about STDs on the 'net. And educating oneself is of paramount importance! Just be sure when checking online sites for info that they are bonafide and not trying to sell you, or someone else (research grants) something.

I have a couple of online lady friends who live in other states that I would consider dating and having a possible relationship with. I've "known" one woman online for years, the other for several months. They are each articulate, intelligent, and smokin' hot. One has HSV 2 and the other has HSV2 plus HPV. Each has told me that they positively will not date me because they do not wish to pass the infection(s) along. So they each have scruples as well.

Even though it would be my choice to accept their "gift" as part of a LTR, it was a no-go for me with them!
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