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Joined: 8/9/2008
Msg: 101
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Ask a woman out if you like her. The worst thing she can do is say no and, should that happen, there are other women. Confidence plays a role as well. If you don't think you can get someone then why should she. Women notice these kinds of things.
Joined: 2/8/2004
Msg: 102
Out of my league
Posted: 10/25/2011 7:28:55 PM

We don't always (in fact, rarely) date 'what we are'. But we date people who bring the same amount of value 'to the table'. The most extreme, common, and obvious example is, rich ugly fat guys date poor, but very beautiful women.

I disagree. Studies show (and personal observation as well) that good looking guys hang with good looking girls. The gender reversal CAN happen, but many times they can be just friends and you don't know it... or he has tons of money, which is usually a factor when she's older if he's ugly & she's hot.... or they were married and he let himself go. So you do have to take long-term married people out of the equation.

In the end, if there were no "leagues", then there would be no people significantly better looking than another by the general populace's eyes... which means models in magazines would be randomly selected, as taste would be random -- which it's not. There's an objective baseline and it shifts to some degree subjectively in the details.

When have you seen a ripped, good looking guy with a decent job land a date and eager to start dating a 300lb unemployed heffer with 4 kids? League difference.
Joined: 10/9/2011
Msg: 103
Out of my league
Posted: 10/25/2011 8:10:24 PM
I sort of agree with the guy who used the baseball analogy, but I would leave the words "babe" and "banging" out of your vernacular. Otherwise, it won't matter what "improvments" you make. No self-respecting woman will want to seriously date or "bang" you.

That said, remember that a lot of pretty girls are alone or just hanging with her girls because men expect to be shot down so they don't ask them out. Also, not all women are looking for the GQ model with the fat wallet. I met a couple the other night who I never would have imagined together. She was pretty and personable and while he was personable, he wasn't what I would consider to be attractive. But they had great chemistry and seemed happy. My guess is he saw her and decided to take a chance. Try it sometime. You might be surprised at what kind of woman will say yes.
Joined: 2/5/2011
Msg: 104
Out of my league
Posted: 10/26/2011 12:29:00 AM
I think a person is limiting themselves severely if they stick to someone in their perceived league. I've seen a lot of short, rotund gals who dress shoddily and yet they have a tall boyfriend or husband who's in shape.

I would say go for the women you're attracted to, but don't discount the Plain Janes either. The best way to do this is get to know them and see if they have things in common with you.
Joined: 9/26/2011
Msg: 105
Out of my league
Posted: 10/26/2011 2:28:43 AM
I think mr right for you has pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Im stuck for going for guys i dont fancy as im scared the good looking major league guys will only play about.

I consider myself none of the leagues more of a half way inbetween maybe.

But your right, i never got anything decent at school so this has made me the way i am. And now even though im alone a lot more ive stopped settling. I want to feel alive and only being into someone you actually fancy is going to do that

So good effort on that post. Thats brill
Joined: 10/3/2007
Msg: 106
Out of my league
Posted: 10/26/2011 3:39:30 AM
Leagues are some kind of ridiculous, socially constructed, shallow hierarchy based on looks. I would ignore the superficial presence of leagues and instead assess worthiness of a relationship based on true character. I don't deny that 'leagues' exist, but I personally don't live by them - nobody is 'out of my league', because I don't have one.
Joined: 3/24/2011
Msg: 107
Out of my league
Posted: 10/26/2011 9:13:59 AM
I'd rather take my chances with women that are *OML*, and maybe...
Just M A Y B E ...find one that finds Me interesting enough to start something wonderful with....(It's happened , before!!)
Settling for someone that I'd be embarassed to be seen with in public...
...which does , luckily , also leave a fair amount 'In Between' !!
Is a Challenge get some of the Very Attractive women just to respond to a
polite Note of Admiration..??!!
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