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 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 126
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^^^^^
FYI, that 5'9 guy you dated, wasn't short, that's avg height in USA&Canada.
 Taztiger72
Joined: 2/26/2008
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Posted: 1/29/2010 1:07:23 PM

FYI, that 5'9 guy you dated, wasn't short, that's avg height in USA & Canada.


You understand this statement = women do not care they don't want average they want the Magical 6'0" Man - no matter their own height - it's like the Ultimate and nothing compares to it. It is a Requirement for a lot of women - and no it's not embedded in their DNA - I've read taller Women complain about this and blame Disney because most women watch a lot of the Disney Channel growing up and this is emphasized a lot - the Man has to be extremely tall and the women must be petite and they can protect them against the "boogy man" who is all shorter men under 6'0". This is a double edged sword - it cuts Short Men out and Taller Women out.

Yes in the Anglo World the Average Male is 5'9' to 5'10" and Women Average 5'4" to 5'6" - because there is a lot of people who carry DNA from towns people who lived in towns and cities for generations and the Height was carried - Taller people have DNA from Country People who lived in the Countryside where there was more room to be Taller.

Here is the problem with this Tall Man thing: It is totally blind of several things for a relationship - Smarts, Personality, Trust, Stability, Character - it is a 100% superficial issue and it has nothing to do with the person - they are a prize - Women like to show off to their friends and say I got a Caddy - what do you got? Its more of a competitive thing and to say to their friends "I got Mine" then it cycles that women want the same thing Taller and Taller and if Average Men are the only one's available then "There are No Real Men left" Like I said I challenge any women to say to their mother, "There are no real men left because there are no 6'0" tall men available."

 Fifi47
Joined: 8/19/2004
Msg: 128
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Posted: 1/30/2010 4:36:48 AM
I like men of all shapes and sizes, it does not matter to me if a man is tall, short or average. Some tall men I have met seem to like short, plump women, and some seem to really prefer tall thin women. Some people have preferences, some seem to have set rules about a person's appearance, and some are like me, they like a variety of people, based on the personality, not the appearance.
 standoutboy
Joined: 12/7/2009
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Posted: 1/30/2010 7:18:05 AM

People win big lotteries..... never met one myself, not likely to & even less likely to win one myself in this life time...... we all know the odds are insanely small. I guess there is that 1 in a million who will end up dating a short guy. Bet they never said I prefer a short guy. I have a few married female friends who are mystified by me being single .... til I have them think about it ( did they & did their female friends of past or present date short men???) ..... then they get it. Always the same story ( Your a great guy & nice looking , why are you having no luck?) in that they themselves are never interested in short guys ...... but some ( mystical , unknown ) girls must. It is like a Leprachan ( the women who like short men) in that never spesifically seen but believed to exist. In my 45 years I have not met a Leprachan NOR met a woman who is single & avail. AND likes short men.


Absolutely spot on and well ariculated, hopefull 1964. And, its not just only limited to thier stringent height requirements, it could be, on any of thier numerous whimsical and arbitrary preferences, I can't be bothered to mention, right now.
I love it, when women especially single women coo at me with the most sympathetic tone 'you are nice guy, you ll find someone'. That cliche absolutely cracks me up, because there is me thinking, if I am such a nice and intelligent and whatnot guy, why are you wishing me on someone else you dont know and care about- its not like you are altruistic or something ,why do you reject my advances and put me down in such a brusque manner, why would you prefer to date the guy, you and I and everyone well knows, is stringing along two or more women or why have you determined to choose to stay single until the 'Big Bad Giantman' or any other manly creature of 'Perfection' turns up, than attempting at giving it a go, with the 'out of luck' guy, you might just be compartible with.
Very well said.hopefull1964. Great observation.
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 130
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Posted: 1/30/2010 9:23:33 AM
^^^^^
Your ex was a rare case, I personally don't know a single guy who doesn't prefer short women (5'-5'4) so I can guarantee you, not many would be saying they'd make your legs longer.

I also don't know any guys who care about hair (so long as its there, is clean, and pretty), sure we look at tits, but again how many guys would say to you, oh ya you're only a B cup ( I dunno your size just an example) come back when you've got a D or bigger. other then Hollywood or something like that...and PLEASE tell me women wouldnt go BATSH1T calling that guy all kinds of names and saying he's SHALLOW for that....so why can't men say the same about you and other women who chase the bean poles.

As far as weight goes, that's CHANGEABLE! but it also has to do with health, and lifestyle...so its not necessarily always about just aaaw she fat.
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 131
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Posted: 1/30/2010 10:00:19 AM
^^i'm 5'9 and I have trouble too, because you don't often find 5'9 guys who have damn near 46-50" chest with a 34-36" waist.

Same with pants, i'm in between sizes in terms of length and they hardly ever carry them...plus do you know how many pants i've ripped, or had to give to family members cuz my legs keep getting bigger lol
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 132
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Posted: 1/30/2010 2:16:21 PM

..... and to add ... it is now a REQUIREMENT that the guy is 5'10"+. NOT a preference.

HUH?????????????????????? I've had four first dates in the past month and a half. Not ONE of them was over 5'8". One clearly lied about his height, at 5'9" and I knew immediately he was barely 5'7". The height didn't kill the date, his negative attitude did.
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 133
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Posted: 1/30/2010 2:25:09 PM
VeryGreen, you've already indicated that you honestly don't really care about height, I just hope you don't go thinking like some women that he's negative because of his height, and that all people his height or shorter are the same.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 134
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Posted: 1/30/2010 2:34:33 PM

VeryGreen, you've already indicated that you honestly don't really care about height, I just hope you don't go thinking like some women that he's negative because of his height, and that all people his height or shorter are the same.

LMFAO ~ Uhhmmmmmmmmm, NO. His negativity had to do with his LIFE, not his height. The world did him wrong. The last gal he dated stopped calling him and wouldn't tell him why, she must have been bi-polar. His career went to hell because his ex wife was a biitch. His car had a flat tire because some idiot left a nail on the Parkway, etc., etc. It was non-stop. Had nothing to do with his height. (As I've stated a dozen times in the past 4 years here ~ height makes no difference to me unless he is short on intellect, sense of humor, self-worth or common sense.)
 Taztiger72
Joined: 2/26/2008
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Posted: 1/30/2010 2:44:04 PM
GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK!!! you guys do it too not always about height but legs tits ass face weight hair shit ...when the last time that you gave that 300 pounder thyroid issued woman with the bad acne scars a chance shes got an awesome personality...what about the skinny limped hair woman with no ass , i hear she makes an awesome catch...we all things we go for ..learn to deal...


Here again - you lose - that Women who you put down as a 300lbs or the skinny one are interested in the same 6'0" man you are -

And you know what they won't take a shorter man either....

My suggestion if it's all about height competition - then move to Holland = they want the Tallest offspring in the world right now....
....

All Women 4'0" to 6'7", 75lbs to 300lbs, all demographics want men 6'0" - so get you get over it...
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 136
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Posted: 1/30/2010 2:53:01 PM
BadMonkey: just check through some profiles, some women CLEARLY state something to the effect of "don't even bother messaging me if you aren't over 5'10", don't want no small fishies" or some shit like that.
 Hopefull1964
Joined: 4/8/2009
Msg: 137
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Posted: 1/30/2010 4:52:41 PM
1) No one is claiming 100% of women reject short guys.
2) several reaerch studies show a huge proportion do. Aprox. in the high 80s to low 90's. Thus about 10% will date short guys. The 90 persent do not prefer to date BUT will ONLY date guys 5'10"+= requirment.
3) Not easy to find that 10% AND have all the other compatability factors come together, thus making it EXTREEMLY hard to find a mate.
Thus lies the cunundrum for the short guy.
4) all the posters agree , more or less, to this situation.
5) A value system for mate selection changes very slowly through the generations. Height was of no consequence 100 years ago. Who knows what physical characteristics will be valued 100 years from now. Side burns & a bushy chest & face were all the rage for almost 15 years back in the mid. 60's to late 70,s.
6) This obsession with height will not change anytime soon. Unlike hairy chests, ya' can't just wax.
7) Short guys are s.o.l. Some will win the lottery most do not.
8) Secretary of the Dept. of Labour ( u.s.a.) Robert Reich (early 90's) was having his Dept. studying various wage inequalities. One statistic that stuck out: huge difference in % of married short guys. Way off the charts low % married or in a relationship. I am not sure how they got the stats. on height.
COMMON SENCE: how many short guys with a mate , do you see in large public area like shopping malls. VERY RARE.
 metalwench
Joined: 6/15/2009
Msg: 138
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Posted: 1/30/2010 4:57:27 PM
I myself tend to date taller men i'm 5"9..I will date men my height but would prefer taller..I like wearing heels and don't want to tower over my man..
 DiannaBall
Joined: 1/6/2010
Msg: 139
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Posted: 1/30/2010 5:21:53 PM
I only like taller men too. I need someone to wrap my legs around and know they are there. Not to mention, I am pretty buff so I need a man with more muscle than me (won't be found on this site.) So yeah, I keep them tall and fit for a few reasons. I like wearing heels too. Anywhere. They look best around a nice tall buff man's neck. :) *Wink
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 140
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Posted: 1/30/2010 5:24:30 PM
^^^
you're 5'1....by and large the majority of men are taller then you...
and i've seen some pretty jacked dudes in some threads, i'm in the infancy of my bodybuilding career, (came from a 130lbs kid to 225lbs now) and live to far away lol but don't say you can't find a big (didn't say tall) dude
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 141
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Posted: 1/30/2010 5:49:34 PM
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13735689.aspx
This outta set this thread back about 13 pages.
 Hopefull1964
Joined: 4/8/2009
Msg: 142
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Posted: 1/30/2010 6:37:26 PM
That is HILLARIOUS . Only you ^^^^^ responded to that threat. Guessing no one else ever saw such a thing. The thread 3 post previous; 5'1 & only TALL man need respond..... SOOOOOO typical.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 143
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Posted: 1/30/2010 7:04:22 PM
Hmmm:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/603849/why_tall_women_should_date_short_men.htmlhttp://www.datingish.com/710525873/short-mentall-women/
http://www.walktallshoes.com/research/taller-women-short-men-talk.html
http://www.tallwomen.org/links/
http://engagement101mag.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/tall-women-short-men-relationships/
http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-319122.htm
http://www.planjam.com/weblog/2007/08/22/short-men-tall-order-tips-for-dating-taller-women/
http://www.ehow.com/how_2225005_date-tall-womanshort-man.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/06/gender.lifeandhealth
http://www.datingish.com/710525873/short-mentall-women/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-477179/Why-DO-tall-women-love-little-men.html
http://www.tallcorina.com/tall-women-with-short-men.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/14/famous-couples-with-talle_n_214948.html
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzz/Tall_Women_Short_Men
http://www.shortsupport.org/News/0285.html

~OT~ Maybe this will clear up some of those questions we've been politely attempting to spell out:


Napoleon Bonaparte: Controversy over short man syndrome - or the Napoleon Complex - has raged for years

It is said to have motivated Napoleon, spurred on Mussolini and driven Attila the Hun.

Now scientists may finally have proof for the "short man syndrome" - the phenomenon where tiny men overcompensate for their lack of height through acts of aggression.

A new scientific study has shown that shorter men are more likely to be jealous husbands and boyfriends than their taller counterparts.

Controversy over short man syndrome - or the Napoleon Complex - has raged for years.

Supporters of the syndrome say that society's obsession with height forces small men to overcompensate by becoming chippy, more aggressive and - in extreme cases - lust power.

The new findings come from two studies carried out at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands.

There, researchers asked 100 men and 100 women how jealous they were in their current relationships.

They were given a range of options from "not jealous at all" to "morbidly jealous".

They were also asked how interested their partners were in members of the opposite sex.

Shorter men were far more likely to say they were jealous than taller ones.

"Taller men tended to be less jealous, and the tallest men were the least jealous," said the researchers, led by Dr Abraham Buunk.

"In contrast very short and very tall women tended to be more jealous and women of approximately average height were the least jealous."

In a second study, 119 male and 230 female students were asked to say how jealous they would be if they were at a party - and say their girlfriend, or boyfriend, flirting with a stranger.

Again, taller men were the least jealous, and short men the most, New Scientist reports today.

Average sized women were the least jealous- while tall and short women were the most. ...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-532448/Is-PROOF-short-men-feel-insecure.html#ixzz0e9h8pWHg

 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 144
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Posted: 1/30/2010 7:04:49 PM
Opps...double post. Sorry!
 Taztiger72
Joined: 2/26/2008
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Posted: 1/30/2010 8:59:01 PM
verygreeneyez you are getting silly at this you know that!

Napoleon was 5'7" OK - his nemisis was the Duke of Wellington who was 6'2" which in 1815 was enourmous for then - OK - Wellington hated all and I mean all men shorter than himself!

As for Napoleon - his 1st wife was Jos├ęphine de Beauharnais she was 5'4" she didn't like him not because of his height (which it has be contrived for the Napoleon Complex) but 2 other reasons which are 1. His Race - He was of Corsican which is heavily ethic Italian and he had darker skin than a Frenchman. 2. He wasn't Aristocracy - he was commoner in her eyes and not worthy for her, and he dumped her when he became Emperor of France.

http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/bonapartenapoleon/a/napoleonheight.htm

Now the British Claim 5'7" in French Inches = 5'2" in British Inches if this is the case Jos├ęphine de Beauharnais was still shorter under 5'0" Tall! Which in real size the French Inch was longer at the time - sorry, plus some British still claim he was under 4'10" in height - which would make him even smaller?

Napoleon's 2nd wife: Marie Louise, Duchess of Parma (Austrian Empire) was around the same size 5'4".

Enough with this contrived nonsense - which it is = and in Napoleon's case it was Propaganda and slighting by the British!

Tall or Short doesn't make the man - it's what the man is and does and the way he thinks - get over it - there are Creepy Nasty Short Men and there are Creepy Nasty Tall Men - don't base totally on someone's height - if Tall or Short was the answer we would all be Tall or Short now! We are Not!

The point is this Good Men come in all sizes and don't judge only on someone's Height! Because that is 100% Judgmental and not a preference - because with a preference it's negotiable - with a close cased judgment it means NO no matter what!


2) several reaerch studies show a huge proportion do. Aprox. in the high 80s to low 90's. Thus about 10% will date short guys. The 90 persent do not prefer to date BUT will ONLY date guys 5'10"+= requirment.
3) Not easy to find that 10% AND have all the other compatability factors come together, thus making it EXTREEMLY hard to find a mate.


Well, I must deal with the 10% and you know what I'd rather - Make Lemonade than sour grapes - but lot of women on here are so damn closed minded that they don't see they are short changing themselves - be more realistic than 8-10" inches difference - you need to be 2-3" that is reasonable not only 6'0" Tall men are for me and if I can't have him - then I won't date until one comes along - you're gonna wait a long time and be very miserable in the process - Like I said not everyone gets a Caddy - there are other options....

 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 146
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Posted: 1/31/2010 4:16:55 AM

verygreeneyez you are getting silly at this you know that!

Because I can rebuke your false statements time and time again, I'm silly? "Pot meet Kettle" comes to mind (as you became SILLY about 3 pages of posts ago.) Your above argument falls short of making a valid rebuttal. It's still Little Man Syndrome no matter who he was married to or not married to. (Pun SO intended.) Did you actually state one can "make lemonade or sour grapes" ??? OMFG!!!!
 Hopefull1964
Joined: 4/8/2009
Msg: 147
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Posted: 1/31/2010 6:06:55 AM
Taz has explicated quite accurately the historical facts, without footnotes, to back up his point. NOT needed as this is not a University academic forum. Anyone in a graduate class in psychology would be laughed out of the classroom for even letting " Napolean Compex" pass their lips. In phsychology, theories such as this one are termed "pop-psychology" as they were conjured up by an uneducated populace & based on no scientific study. Reputable Universities such as Harvard, Yale & Princton have spent decades developing tests to unearth our subconsious thoughts. The most accurate test is the I.A.T. First as Taz. is pointing out the" Napolean Complex" is a misnomer because the historical facts surrounding Napoleon bear out that this "complex" is missaplied to Napolean. Getting past THAT; we all understand the gist of the concept, " Napolean Complex". Three decades & recent studies applying the I.A.T. have debunked the belief that short men have any greater tendance to insecurity ( due to height or any other factor) & " overcompensating" for it, than any other group in society. The perception of such insecurities & overcompensating has been proven to be greatly dependent on those doing the percieving. Eg. Historically one group would see another group as insecure & overcompensating ( Germans towards the Jews .... remember the Germans saw the Jews as inferior & insecure .... thus overcompensating by " overworking" their businesses & amassing wealth. This became a big source of distain & hate the Germans had for the Jews. This perception was entirely based on the Germans prejudice & hate for the Jews. It was not an accurate reflection of the mindset of the majority of Jews. The Jews' mind set was just simply to work hard to be successful, live comfortably & provide a good inheritence for their children. The same desires & goals the Germans held. ) Same too with short men. Indeed some are insecure. BUT several studies using the I.A.T showed that most are not behaving in an insecure manner although percieved by many as doing so. Just one of many eg. many women see the short man as insecure if he is wealthy &/or drives a flashy sports car. he must be " overcompensating" for his lack of height. These women have no idea weather or not he thinks he has " lack of height". These women see it as such because they desire a man with height & see him as lacking it. But when presented a tall man with a flashy sports car they see a successful VERY eligable & confident bachelor. Ok, enough said. My arguments are not provided with footnotes & brief snipits from reaserch. Some posters will " bull up ' on it but so what. This forum is not an academic forum AND I got other things to do other than spend all my time on this. Not like I am going to earn a degree or win an award. AND the whole point of this thread was not to discuss the validity of the "Napolean Complex" . I do feel that if someone does a bit of reaserch & finds the academic studies on the concept , they will in future be embarrassed to speak of it any further. I come from a family of a father & 2 siblings who are professors & being often in the company of academics I can say they do get a laugh out of people who belive in it. B.T.W. No they are not short: Dad 6' , brother 5'10, sister 5'6".
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 148
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Posted: 1/31/2010 12:32:38 PM

I come from a family of a father & 2 siblings who are professors & being often in the company of academics I can say they do get a laugh out of people who belive in it.

Just because you think you are the only person that has formal education here, doesn't make it fact. Likewise, just because you have academics in your family tree, doesn't make you unique. I think that's status-quo. At least in my family, friends, loved ones and even acquaintances ~~ it's our norm. And sorry to be the Bad News Fairy, yet again, but the only academics that I know in a psychological or sociological field that would "laugh at" others thoughts, theories, beliefs, or even ideologies are those who are too small minded to know enough to listen rather than judge (SNOBS for the lack of a better term.) Generally, truly intelligent people (regardless of formal educational endeavors) are very well aware that: The more they learn, the less they know. Maybe your peeps don't subscribe to that, however. On that note? I'm bored with this silliness and it's become more and more obvious that you and Taz are an army of two. You both really should log out, go find a couple of 6' beauties that don't give a ratz azz how tall you are, buy them a couple of drinks, have dinner and live a little. But that's just my opinion. Oh, and this:


B.T.W. No they are not short: Dad 6' , brother 5'10, sister 5'6".

LMFAO ~ what on earth does that have to do with anything? Whatever, it was worth a snorting giggle for me. Thanks for that!
 valenciacityx
Joined: 3/10/2009
Msg: 149
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Posted: 2/1/2010 12:55:50 AM
you know if short people quit dating, quit breeding, eventually the gene would die out. cheer up, by the time you get reincarnated, you could come back taller.

eventually that short gene works out the Punnet squares ;)
 PrinceCharmingsCousin
Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 150
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Posted: 2/1/2010 9:56:11 AM
^^^
conversely all the tall guys would now be AVERAGE, and women would seek ever taller men, so the 5'10-6'1 crowd would now be considered short.

AND

there would be no more short hotties anymore...woman would in parallel grow taller on avg, to the point where 5'9-5'10 would probably avg for them....so the cycle would just keep going, except with taller people.
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