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 Masked_Hero
Joined: 12/14/2003
Msg: 131
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This is very true... alas we as humans always want the "shiny" Things .... Kids don't eat veggies cus they look gross. Yes whats on the inside is very good for them the vitamins will help them grow big and strong. But.... as children we'd rather have candy !!! It looks sooo good so glamerous but yet it rots our teeth and can turn us into fat obeist adults... We work so hard in our adult life. If you dream of driving 2005 Ford focus please rais your hand ? Its so reliable on the inside won't give you any troubles great car ! Now if you dream of drving a 2005 Lexus convertable please raise your hand... Hmmm I'm see'n a lot more hands. Both cars do the same thing they take me to freak'n work ! Sorry to say this but to humans whats on the outside REALLY does matter ! Thats why today when you went to the grocery store buying apples you but back the apple that had a dent in the skin and picked up the real shiny red apple !
 IWork4KyzrSoze
Joined: 2/20/2005
Msg: 144
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 2/26/2005 8:24:02 PM
Again, I'm posting after having NOT read through the seven pages in this thread, but has anyone addressed why HOT GUYS never give a chance to an average looking girl? Just curious.
In other news, I'll answer the initial question: In my experience (as a hot girl), I'd have to say I like to stay in my own league first. Perhaps, when I'm older and sagging, I'll skip over to the "average" section, but until then, I'm gonna only go after HOT GUYS because it just makes good d*mn sense! We feed off of each other's HOTNESS! Hot chicks just can't get with an average guy early on in the game, because that will burn your flame!

Is anyone still reading this, or have you finally realized that this post (along with this thread) is pretty much full of **it!
 aradienne
Joined: 12/31/2004
Msg: 151
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 7/12/2005 3:21:26 PM
I dated an "average" looking guy that I was nuts about....except for him telling me constantly that he didn't deserve me and what did I want with him and he didn't have anything to offer me. He finally convinced me.

I'd rather put up with the**** attitude than that any day.
 who_the_fox
Joined: 4/29/2005
Msg: 152
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 7/12/2005 3:32:43 PM

I dated an "average" looking guy that I was nuts about....except for him telling me constantly that he didn't deserve me and what did I want with him and he didn't have anything to offer me. He finally convinced me.


Yep...there is nothing attractive about a man who keeps going on about me being "out of his league". It just means he is insecure and I don't want to play therapist, thanks.
 jimmyzorro1979
Joined: 7/7/2005
Msg: 154
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 7/18/2005 5:25:36 AM
The awnser too this question is easy. Everyone is worried about everyone elses opinion. (Such as)...... WHat would maria think if she saw us together.or such beleifs. You see even rich people don't marry poor peoples. Basic problem is most of us Judge poeple by looks intellegence physical appearance or socio-ecenomic status. Not for what really makes a person attractive. That would be The good qualaties, such as kindness understanding Honesty Trust . Of all these Trust is No 1. Hope I helped clear a deeper angle of the thread. TY JimmyZorro
 ladyvenus
Joined: 12/26/2005
Msg: 171
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Posted: 3/4/2006 10:23:02 PM
Miss Music, good advice. The buckshot technique seems mechanical but it has to work because by asking out as many girls as possible, you are increasing the odds that one of them will say yes. I also agree with you that you can't change someone else, you can only change yourself.
 twochecks
Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 173
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/4/2006 10:47:42 PM
sometimes they do
 canadianbakeun
Joined: 1/9/2006
Msg: 174
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/5/2006 5:11:27 AM
i can't believe how many ugly chicks are answering this question.....
 ArchDemon
Joined: 3/9/2006
Msg: 177
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2006 6:50:42 PM
I have met tons of hot intelligent women.

And what yada said about the ugly duckling/swan girls is by far the most stupid thing I have ever read on this site.

The ugly duckling/swan women are the best.
 Saturday Night Rocks
Joined: 11/20/2005
Msg: 181
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 3/11/2006 10:07:31 PM

Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?


Why do hot guys never give a chance to an average looking girl?

Why do rich guys not drive Yugos?

They don't have to!!!
 shaman312
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 186
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Posted: 9/4/2006 8:46:17 PM
I didn't read all 8 pages, so I don't know if this has been brought up:

Average-looking guys aren't the only ones getting the cold shoulder from attractive women. Looks are a huge issue in the alternative dating scene, too. If you're not a super model, most "lip stick" women won't give you the time of day.
 WhiteFlames
Joined: 8/3/2006
Msg: 188
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 9/4/2006 9:28:25 PM
After reading some of this thread and combining the repliesalong with some things that seem to pop up alot in other threads, it seems that many people believe it's all about the wrapping and not what's inside the package. There are some packages that are wrapped so beautifully, but are empty or contain pure sh--. There are packages wrapped in plain brown paper, that can contain pure, priceless jewels. And then of course, some jewels do come beautifully wrapped, and some brown paper wrapped packages can contain sh-- or nothing at all. That's four different types of packages to choose from.
However, many women and men will only go for the glitter and fancy ribbons.
Thank goodness not all are like that.
 wsrfr33
Joined: 6/16/2006
Msg: 190
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 9/4/2006 10:50:20 PM
They don't because they don't need to. Another way to look at it is this: why do hot looking guys usually hook up with hot looking women?? Human nature.

Personally, I think we are heavily influenced every day you turn on the tv, go to a movie, look at billboards, or any other type of advertising. They are plastered with hot looking men and women. How can we not be influenced.

You might be happier dating avg looking women who are otherwise a good match for you. Who knows, it might even change your dating habits.

Remember there is a 50% divorce rate in California (and maybe elsewhere)

Ok, enough lecture for one night.
 withoutcha
Joined: 8/13/2006
Msg: 192
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Posted: 9/5/2006 5:32:35 AM
im sorry, but once again, i find a post i cant resist, average? hot looking? o ok i get what your saying, you labeled it wrong, plastic , superficial, self centered, stuck up, look at me im beautifull kinda loser girl? if she wasnt all that she would give you a chance, having said that? what do you consider hot? and whats average? i dont know, what i do know is, the woman im seeing right now is a 10, although i havent turned her inside out to look , maybe if you were looking for something other than outside beauty, you would find a ten too, :0) yes patty im talking about you babe, alan
 Rettam
Joined: 1/30/2005
Msg: 194
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Posted: 10/29/2006 11:15:55 AM
^^^^

I think there is lots of truth to what markeeoo is saying, though there are a few parts I'm sure people contrue in a way that's very controversial.

But as I read what he says, nothing he has propositioned is really all that false. And I will be happy to put up a defense on lots of these points, with my own variations on a few.



There is one thing that many people tend to bring up in discussions like this that adds nothing at all, in my opinion to the REAL questions behind the matter. And is questions like "what is your definition of beautiful" or "beauty is subjective." In about 80% of the topics on this site, there is no need to address this issue at all, because what people usually mean is not what is beautiful, but what is under higher demand.

If you replace the question "can an average looking guy get a pretty girl" with the statement "can a guy who is not sough after as much by girls get a girl that is sought after by porportionately more people" nothing is really lost in answering the latter question instead of the first.

I think the same goes for markeeoo's post above, and probably every post here. Yet in a few posts you'll see someone calling this guy shallow or superficial for not realizing that beauty is subjective.

People are HUNG UO on the subjectivity of beauty. In most posts, its actually a cop-out retort that adds nothing to what we already know. I think that' s a lost cause - yes beauty is subjective... but what's at work here that's causing all the dissapointment, why some people are coveted by many while others can't get a response to save thier lives, is not BEAUTY. It's demand for the same group of people. You can call them ugly or stupid or plastic, but what remains the same is that lots of people desire them.

So stop calling them beautiful or pretty or whatever if you like. It doesn't cahnge the fact that some people have waaaay more options in terms of who to choose from than others. It's not about beauty. It's about demand. And demand changes your life. The picture of LA that markeeoo talks about sounds like this concept is taken to the extreme there.

People tend to avoid the more painful questions around that by dismissing it as a tendancy for people to be shallow or judging a book by its cover. Even if the world was reduced to a non-visual existence, this would not go away, and the truth that beauty is in the eye of the beholder doesn't explain or solve a thing. Some people will still be more popular than others for one reason or another, and others will be depressed about it because they feel hopeless to change it. THAT's the problem... and there's not real solution, which is what makes some of these whiner threads so frustrating to read,yet compelling becasue it reveals something true about dating.

I think the phenomenon is deeper and more disturbing than just "looks."
 bucsgirl
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 195
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Posted: 10/29/2006 11:27:34 AM
Let's just make this simple. If the OP is only interested in a woman because of her looks then he can hire an escort and show her off around town, at the company party, etc. People generally who are that hung up on how their date looks is only out to impress other people. For some, having a hot sexy woman on their arm is the same as showing off a new car, a Rolex watch....etc....ad nauseum.
 Rettam
Joined: 1/30/2005
Msg: 196
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Posted: 10/29/2006 11:45:25 AM
I've talked to some guys that are seriously picky about how a girl DRESSES - which I think is beyond just resting everything on "looks." Looks, to these guys, is already not enough. It's not just about the right body parts, the right face and so forth but the right sense of style, as reflected in the clothes they wear. I've literally talked to guys that complain about girls with no class or taste adn how that would reflect poorly on them if they were to date them.

But I've also hear the inverse of this argument, comming from women actually, who think that this isn't worse - because at least you can choose th clothes you wear, whereas you are born with your physical "look"..... and that there's some merit to thinking of a person in one way or another based on how they dress. These same people reserve the right to launch the "slutty outfit = slutty person" argument.

I don't agree with neither of these views, but I've noticed that people that say you shouldn't be hung up on looks will often still support one of the above positions.
 Rettam
Joined: 1/30/2005
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Posted: 10/29/2006 12:42:29 PM
"hot girls can do whatever they want"

Women that are desired by lots of people have lots of actual power - they cna use their position to demand things, have things go their way etc, so yeah, in a sense this is true. This is true of anyone that has something that lots of people want or want to be affiliated to.

So, I ask all the "hot firls" out there, do does it feel like the top of the world to be a hot girl?

They're definately very powerful, in a particular kind of way.
 1hotbrat
Joined: 7/6/2005
Msg: 201
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Posted: 10/29/2006 2:21:13 PM
To start Beauty is only in the eye of the beholder.
So for you to assume and pass on your insecure miss guided perception of a HOT person is very sad!!
With your thinking and attitude no wonder your single. It falls into a dumb thing men tend to say or use the words shes not in my "league" their is no such thing as league this is your own insecurity Not a league You lack self confidence and you quite before you even try. No wonder so many pretty girls are standing alone. Men are to afraid of a little rejection to even try!! This type of thinking is preventing men from being a positive, assertive and confident partner of the opposite sex.
Men and woman can be Vain....
Average people can be just as shallow as HOT people! Its whats inside that counts. Just because you think someone was more lucky in the looks department, Is in no way a reason to assume someone is more or less educated as the next person.
What one thinks is what one becomes!!
 Huggablehottie
Joined: 8/3/2006
Msg: 207
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 10/29/2006 4:09:42 PM
Yeah hot girls do give average joes a chance.
 Rettam
Joined: 1/30/2005
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Posted: 10/29/2006 4:59:49 PM
-I hate to beat a dead horse, but like I said, beauty being inteh eye of the beholder, I think has nothing to do with this.

The complaint here, as it usually is, is that he doesn't think he has as good a chance with the women he's attractied to.

If that is indeed true or false has nothing to do with the subjectivity of beauty. It has to do with demand.

If, to him, a certain group of women appeared attractive to him, and no other guys in his region saw them as attractive at all, then he WOULD DEFINATELY have a better chance at dating them. It's unrealistic to ignore what options the women have, and if they are under demand (regardless of what the reasons for that demand are) then it's almost irrational to think they'd be just as available for dating you as other women that are not being asked out by a pile of guys.

It doesn't matter if beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If he finds girl x attractive, but girl x is being pursued by every guy, you have to acknowledge he's going to have a harder time.

A girl may not be "out of your league" whatever that means. But she can sure be wanted by waaay more guys than other girls. In that case the girl is not out of your league - you've just got lots of competition, and that's not an insignificant hurdle.
 howdwegethere
Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 213
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 10/30/2006 4:19:35 AM
Lol yeah come on hotties, give me a chance already!
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 218
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Posted: 10/30/2006 9:05:56 AM
I am not hot, but I go with what I am attracted to, and that's totally different from anyone else. Basically everyone likes something different. So that means if you think you are average, you are only being turned down by what YOUR idea of a hot woman is. Your friends may disagree.

Almost makes it pointless to start this thread doesn't it?
 TropicalNights
Joined: 6/4/2006
Msg: 219
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Posted: 10/30/2006 9:37:13 AM
She is with you for your Other , Better Qualities,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or else she would not be w you,,,,, simply said she loves you,,,,,,,,, if you accept that,,, you will feel less insecure and more loved, and hopefully you may lose the ugly duckling feeling,,,,,,,,,, best to you! Strangerstill
 Winebuddy
Joined: 7/14/2006
Msg: 220
Why do hot girls never give a chance to an average looking guy?
Posted: 10/30/2006 8:02:19 PM

"hot" women, as you put them are relatively uneducated. If they are educated, there's a very good chance that they were also the "ugly duckling" in high school and miraculously turned into a swan. These women tend to get by on their looks and arent concerned with such frivolous qualities such as education, humor, a good heart..etc...what they want is the man that will look good on their shoulder...regardless of if that man cannot offer the positive qualities that makes a couple truly compatible.


oh my pooky wooky, am I worthy to carry your lunch pail? From this educated, humourous, good hearted woman give your head a shake. Did you ever think our little pea brains told us you were AVERAGE (by your definition) and we're just not interested! Get over it or get a little self esteem.
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