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 Flyers_Phan
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the day israel gets attacked by a major force is the day Armageddon begins
 n1n0909
Joined: 6/7/2005
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Posted: 7/3/2006 9:08:29 PM
i was just thinkin ,why the wont nuke youre gay ass....

just look at youre self...

and dont think u cool, couse u got that old ass rifle ****......
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:48:27 AM

Sweetheart...

Do you actually think that it is only Israel and Palestine that are dancing on the stage? Behind these two actors are many others including the US, who are writing the drama.
LMAO ... the US does not write the drama ... they just fund Israelis killing off the Palestinians ... a few at a time.

The US underwrites (funds) the Israelis bulldozing the Palestinians' homes, they underwrite (fund) the Israelis in everything they do against the Palestinians as in shutting the water off to entire towns, stopping ambulances at check points until the people inside die ... the list of atrocities goes on and on.

The US might as well be driving the bulldozers, might as well be cutting off the drinking water to the Palestinian towns, might as well be standing at the check points stopping the ambulances.

Why nuke Palestine? All they have are stones to throw at Israeli tanks. What danger are they to the world? Palestine has no "illegal nukes" but Israel does. So who is a real threat to world peace? The "stone throwers" or those with "illegal nukes".

The US doesn't want North Korea to have "illegal nukes", and apparently doesn't want Iran to have "illegal nukes" ... but supports Israel with their "illegal nukes" ... eh?

I see no reason to nuke anyone ... anywhere. What in the world would be the point?
 itechman63
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Posted: 9/9/2010 1:53:09 PM
I'm trying to figure out how we nuke a state that doesn't exist. Of course, if you nuke Israel you are taking out Gaza and the West Bank... and part of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon too. But we'd have a hard time locating Palestine on a map.

Particularly in Christianity there does seem to be this impression that supporting Israel unconditionally gets us in good with the Big Guy. Buying our way into heaven on Judgement Day so to speak. As though we can get into the club by being friends with and walking in with Israel.
 .dej
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Posted: 9/13/2010 3:56:41 PM

I can't think of two bigger threats to world security than Israel and Palestine.

Then you aren't good at thinking, and you don't understand what threat nuclear weapons in the hands of megalomaniacs not held accountable by their constituents via any power check is to the world.

A skirmish between the IDF and a rag-tag militia does not rival North Korea invading South Korea and triggering a world war, or Iran nuking Israel, causing a nuclear war. An open conflict between North and South Korea will mean several hundred lives lost two days, and will bring the entire region into a shooting war.

If Israel invades Palestine, maybe a few hundred, or even a thousand die, and that sucks, but it doesn't even compare to the fallout North Korea could bring to the East.


The islamic nations would band together (again) and strike against Israel. This would force America's hand and after America has acted, Iran's hand.

Not a fan of history? The last time the Arab nations banded together against Israel, the Jews whooped their ass in a weak.
 .dej
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Posted: 9/14/2010 9:28:01 AM

So we haven't sent an additional 30.000 troops to Afghanistan ?

We have, and you are deliberately misconstruing what you are responding to.

If you do attack, we'll respond. That's not an ignorant mindset. That's called defending one's nation. And it's common sense.

Tempting someone to attack thinking they will be cowed into obeying you because you have F16s is an ignorant mindset.
 cotter
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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:21:28 PM

... you don't understand what threat nuclear weapons in the hands of megalomaniacs ...
I know ... letting Israel keep those illegal nukes is a big mistake. I mean really ... no telling when those trigger-happy maniacs will cut loose.

If you do attack, we'll respond.
If who attacks ... WHO will respond?

Oh dear ... did someone forget where they live? Or are you speaking in general terms ... as in if someone attacks (Israel), those of the Jewish nature will respond? Otherwise, that sentence doesn't make sense.

That's not an ignorant mindset. That's called defending one's nation.
And that sentence makes even less sense ... unless someone is saying that if Israel is attacked, they will respond.

At any rate ... the only ones I expect to do any attacking of any kind over there are the Israelis. They're the ones always stealing others' land and mongering on their neighbors.

I repeat ... "I see no reason to nuke anyone ... anywhere. What in the world would be the point?"
 MrLove45
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Posted: 9/14/2010 5:49:48 PM
What an utterly stupid and foolish thread to have and lo and behold only republicans would even have a conversation about using nukes...and you wonder why the majority of the worlds hates us. Thank goodness the Lord bless america with a man in the white house who don't allow him decisions to based on foolishness,fear and hate like most of the b asta rd s that would even consider nuking people they haven't done anything to them, nope, they have just been feed a steady diet of hating people that don't look like them and as we all know it all started right here at home in the good ole united states.
 wisguyingb
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Posted: 9/14/2010 5:55:53 PM
^^ I think a Democrat who was President at the time used nukes (atomic weapons) on Japan in 1945.
 MrLove45
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Posted: 9/15/2010 12:04:06 PM
Gosh Dayum! What a couple of dumb basts#$ards.....to hear you clowns tell Mr. Truman was a lone cowboy going alone dropping bombs for the pleasure of it..

Truman faced challenge after challenge in domestic affairs. The disorderly postwar reconversion of the economy of the United States was marked by severe shortages, numerous strikes, and the passage of the Taft–Hartley Act over his veto. He confounded all predictions to win election in 1948, helped by his famous Whistle Stop Tour of rural America. After his election he was able to pass only one of the proposals in his Fair Deal program. He used executive orders to begin desegregation of the military and create loyalty checks that dismissed thousands of communist supporters from office, even though he strongly opposed mandatory loyalty oaths for governmental employees, a stance that led to charges that his administration was soft on communism. Truman's presidency was also eventful in foreign affairs, with the end of World War II and his decision to use nuclear weapons against Japan, the founding of the United Nations, the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe, the Truman Doctrine to contain communism, the beginning of the Cold War, the Berlin Airlift, the creation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), Chinese Civil War, and the Korean War. Corruption in Truman's administration, which was linked to certain members in the cabinet and senior White House staff, was a central issue in the 1952 presidential campaign and helped cause Adlai Stevenson, Truman's successor for the Democratic nomination for president, to lose to Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower in the 1952 presidential election.
 .dej
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Posted: 9/15/2010 12:42:44 PM
MrLove45:

If you are going to wholesale copy and paste from the Wikipedia article from Truman, at least cite where you are copying from and put it in a quote box.


I know ... letting Israel keep those illegal nukes is a big mistake. I mean really ... no telling when those trigger-happy maniacs will cut loose.

No one person in Israel has power to do anything without being held accountable via a democratic policy, but you knew that, and were misconstruing the differences between states like Iran and Israel.



If who attacks ... WHO will respond?

Oh dear ... did someone forget where they live? Or are you speaking in general terms ... as in if someone attacks (Israel), those of the Jewish nature will respond? Otherwise, that sentence doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense, if you don't start in the middle of the conversation we were having. Someone drew a parallel to Afghanistan and the fact we are still there.



And that sentence makes even less sense ... unless someone is saying that if Israel is attacked, they will respond.

Well, it made sense in context. You chose to ever-so-efficiently save the time you could've spent understanding what was being said doing something else.



At any rate ... the only ones I expect to do any attacking of any kind over there are the Israelis. They're the ones always stealing others' land and mongering on their neighbors.

Well, then you're not paying attention, but you seem like you can't even pay attention to what is being said in this thread, so that seems par for the course.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3954896,00.html
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/09/15/2740913/rocket-attacks-stepped-up-during-talks
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/09/13/2740876/attacks-from-gaza-on-israel-increase
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/today/10/09/0113.htm

^And that's only in the past couple days. If the only ones you expect to do any attacking are the Israelis, you have your head so far up your ass you need medical help to undo it. And I'm not saying Israel is blameless in anything, but you have wholly defied reality here.



I repeat ... "I see no reason to nuke anyone ... anywhere. What in the world would be the point?"

I do not disagree.
 whiskeypapa
Joined: 5/19/2008
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Posted: 9/15/2010 6:15:10 PM
Ynet news and jta.org are both zionist propaganda sites who's perspective and analysis are so far twisted from reality that one can only read with jawdropped amazement. how can people being starved and deprived of water carry out any kind of attack on a nuclear armed criminal entity? It is the typical case of the bully saying, :...he bloodied my fist with his face."

If you would like some interesting reading read, B'Tsalem who recently citicized the criminal entity stating that it encourages the killing of the Palestinians citing the deaths of 617 civilians most under the age of 18.
 .dej
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Posted: 9/15/2010 10:02:41 PM
Wait, you're calling BS on two globally recognized news sources that are reporting the same thing every other outlet on the planet is reporting?

http://www.news24.com/World/News/Gaza-rocket-fired-into-Israel-20100915
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3702088.stm
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/gaza-rocket-strikes-israel-no-casualties-military/678429/
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/04-gaza-israel-clashes-rocket-qs-03
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE6887654.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/world/middleeast/19gaza.html

This kind of detachment from reality... you may want to seek professional help. Spouting off about Zionist conspiracy theories and denying plainly obvious facts... well we've seen some poor examples of the kind of delusional ranting coming from that. For the love of god, even Al Jazeera reports this:


Palestinians in the Gaza strip have fired 12 mortars and six rockets into Israel, resulting in no reported injuries on the Israeli side.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/09/20109151393302881.html

Granted, this is in contradiction to other reports:


A foreign worker in Israel was killed Thursday by a rocket fired from the Hamas-controlled Palestinian territory of Gaza, according to the Israeli military, soon after the arrival here of the European Union’s top foreign policy official.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/world/middleeast/19gaza.html

But never mind, it's all Zionist propaganda.

Unbelievable, what people you can find on the internet. Even in these forums, apparently.
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
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Posted: 9/16/2010 5:37:51 AM


At any rate ... the only ones I expect to do any attacking of any kind over there are the Israelis. They're the ones always stealing others' land and mongering on their neighbors

Well, then you're not paying attention, but you seem like you can't even pay attention to what is being said in this thread, so that seems par for the course.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3954896,00.html
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/09/15/2740913/rocket-attacks-stepped-up-during-talks
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/09/13/2740876/attacks-from-gaza-on-israel-increase
http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News/today/10/09/0113.htm

^And that's only in the past couple days. If the only ones you expect to do any attacking are the Israelis, you have your head so far up your ass you need medical help to undo it. And I'm not saying Israel is blameless in anything, but you have wholly defied reality here.


You are right to recognize that the Israelis are not "blameless in anything." I remember that an extreme element, opposed to a peace settlement negotiated some years ago gunned down the Israeli Prime Minister in order to derail the peace agreement. The main issue was, and still is, that the Israelis would need to give back some of the Palestinian territories they INVADED and have been holding by force.

It is extremely ridiculous, and intellectually deficient, to offer as a defense of the Israeli position the attacks launched on them by some extreme groups of Palestinians. Any honest debater would have to recognize that the population of the country , town, village, or home that has been invaded by force by others who have superior weapons, have the legitimate right to fight back with whatever means necessary against the invaders and occupiers of their land.

As an American I would do no less to defend our country if we were invaded by others.
 whiskeypapa
Joined: 5/19/2008
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Posted: 9/16/2010 4:48:55 PM
The range of a mortar is about 5000 meters, the IOF was well out of range. rockets?? what rockets? the rockets fired from Gaza are nothing more than firecrackers and do no damage. They are more like SOS flares to draw attention to their plight, the relentless murders of civilians for their land.

The criminal entity controls all the news that come out of Palestine, because other outlets pick up the stories does not make them true. This just an example of Goebbels "big lie".
 sexyisback!
Joined: 9/14/2010
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Posted: 9/18/2010 12:14:38 PM

Ynet news and jta.org are both zionist propaganda sites who's perspective and analysis are so far twisted from reality that one can only read with jawdropped amazement. how can people being starved and deprived of water carry out any kind of attack on a nuclear armed criminal entity? It is the typical case of the bully saying, :...he bloodied my fist with his face."

If you would like some interesting reading read, B'Tsalem who recently citicized the criminal entity stating that it encourages the killing of the Palestinians citing the deaths of 617 civilians most under the age of 18.


criminal entity" ? lol.. since there are now almost 15 times as many "Palestinians" (i.e. people who decided they wanted to take Israeli's land AFTER Israeli settlers had irrigated/improved it) in the area, Israel is indeed doing a pizz-poor job at the 'genocide' that is an accusation routinely tossed at it.

The USA is currently and recently doing afar BETTER job considering it has killed far more than 600,000 Iraqi & Afghani civilians in the past few years (sort of better than 617 killed inadvertently, during military actions to protect one's border, as in Israel's case?)

more to your liking I'm sure would be:

Germany, Germany above all,
Above all in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
|: Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world. :
|Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune;
|: Bloom in this fortune's blessing,
Bloom, German fatherland. :|


or the Horst Wessel Lied (song of the SS):

The flag high! The ranks tightly closed!
SA march with bold, firm steps.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit in our ranks.

Clear the streets for the brown battalions,
Clear the streets for the stormtroopers!
Already millions look with hope to the swastika
The day of freedom and bread is dawning!

Roll call has sounded for the last time
We are all already prepared for the fight!
Soon Hitler's flag will fly over the barricades.
Our servitude will soon end!

The flag high! The ranks tightly closed!
SA marches with a bold, firm pace.
Comrades shot by the Red Front and reactionaries
March in spirit in our ranks.
 cotter
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Posted: 9/18/2010 5:39:31 PM
Message 50 ...

... but you seem like you can't even pay attention to what is being said in this thread, so that seems par for the course.


... you have your head so far up your ass you need medical help to undo it.

LMAO at the personal attacks. They must have changed the forum rules. I didn't know they now allow personal attacks like that (in the forums). Oh well, what ever it takes to fill the page (post) ... It's been my experience that when a person has basically nothing to say ... they go the "personal attack" route. Go for it.


If who attacks ... WHO will respond?

Oh dear ... did someone forget where they live? Or are you speaking in general terms ... as in if someone attacks (Israel), those of the Jewish nature will respond? Otherwise, that sentence doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense, if you don't start in the middle of the conversation we were having. Someone drew a parallel to Afghanistan and the fact we are still there.
No matter, but please tell me, when did Afghanistan ever attack us (the US)?

Help me here ... I just don't recall when we (the US) were ever "attacked" by Afghanistan. Our invasion of Afghanistan was not a response of being "attacked" by Afghanistan. Our invasion of Afghanistan was nothing more than the invasion of a sovereign nation ... just as we invaded Iraq ... for no damn good reason.

Now, where were we? Oh yes ... the nuking of Israel ... right?

Mesage 56 ...
The only words I've ever heard or sung (while living in Germany for 10 years and as a performer here in the US) are below. No one I know there or here (among all of my German friends) even care about any other version of the "Lied der Deutschen".

The following provides the lyrics of the "Lied der Deutschen" as written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben. Only the third verse is currently the Federal Republic of Germany's national anthem.
Deutschlandlied
German lyrics and Approximate translation

First stanza
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält.
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt,
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt!

Germany, Germany above all,
Above all in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world.

Second stanza
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Und zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang.
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!

German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song
Shall retain in the world
Their old beautiful chime
And inspire us to noble deeds
During all of our life.
German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song!

Third stanza
(Germany's National Anthem)

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand;
Blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland.

Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune;
Bloom in this fortune's blessing,
Bloom, German fatherland.

 .dej
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Posted: 9/20/2010 3:36:03 PM

It's been my experience that when a person has basically nothing to say ... they go the "personal attack" route. Go for it.

This attitude puzzles me. "Basically nothing to say".

You responded to a post with citations that refutes yours, and your defense is that I have "basically nothing to say". Explain yourself.
 cotter
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Posted: 3/2/2012 4:08:28 PM

Please, just nuke them both before they end up triggering WW3 (Which is going to happen sooner or later because of their actions).
That was posted in July 2006 ... and now we have Israel threatening to attack Iran.


You can't get world war three if nobody participates. The whole reason Israel acts as it does is because of outside aggression.
Threatening to attack Iran ... is that being aggressive?


... supporting Israel unconditionally gets us in good with the Big Guy. Buying our way into heaven on Judgement Day so to speak. As though we can get into the club by being friends with and walking in with Israel.
Being friends with Israel won't get us anything but world hate.
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