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 gilgo
Joined: 3/11/2005
Msg: 93
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 SPANKIE
Joined: 1/17/2005
Msg: 94
Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 9:48:34 AM
so that means they want to get pregnant and go on welfare?
 Jordyn
Joined: 1/31/2005
Msg: 96
Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 9:52:36 AM
ewe no, whats wrong with all you people? are u guys all on welfare yourself?
 gilgo
Joined: 3/11/2005
Msg: 98
Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 9:57:25 AM
sorry jordyn i dont use daddy's credit card every day and use mommy's luxeries, i work hard for my sh*tin the medical field, so why dont ya just put your charge it account on someone elses forum
 Real_heart_real_girl
Joined: 12/28/2004
Msg: 121
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 3:20:56 PM
well said fid....
 Raven34
Joined: 3/8/2005
Msg: 123
Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/11/2005 3:38:21 PM
In my opinion bad apples are bad apples.....they are that way regardless of whether they work 60 hours a week or sit on the system abusing it. I don't want that kind of person in my life.

If someone is sick, down on their luck or life has handed them some crap as it sometimes does that is outside of their control I would hope I am evolved enough not to be judging them by their misfortunes. I would hope that I date someone based on their character not where there income comes from.
 toonsmith
Joined: 1/19/2005
Msg: 138
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 3/12/2005 9:03:44 PM
Would I date someone on welfare? A date is a date. I am not going to put limitations or ask for a credit check before going out. That's silly. I want to get to know the person instead of putting any preconceived notions on her. That is what dating is all about. To get to know the person.

I am on lifetime disability myself. But it hasn't stopped me from setting up an art studio and working out of my home. I went through hell battling cancer and came out alive.

I am happy to be here and I just say "talk to the hand" Bush supporters, cold hearted Republicians and healthy people who have nothing better to do than just plain hate.

Toonsmith
 Richard--
Joined: 11/13/2004
Msg: 160
GeorgiaLeopard... lone56Wolf
Posted: 3/15/2005 1:11:07 AM
You guys have seen some tough times... struggled to beat adversity, and have an open mind about the issue... I saw those tough times... in '92 I was looking at a wheelchair for life, and I'm da*n grateful for the social safety net that Canada has. In the Excited States I'd be in that wheelchair paralysed from the waist down by now...maybe dead from complications.... unable to afford the half million $ or so the surgeon/hospital would have cost me. Here Medicare ("medical welfare" for those of you down south) paid the cost...had the best neurosurgeon in the country and today I walk normally. Am I grateful I live in this left wing "commie" enclave of liberal socialism?? ...you da*n rights I am!

So would I date a "welfare" recipient? Darn right I would... sh*t happens to most of us at one time or another... that makes them no less a person. Maybe she's a woman abandoned, possibly seens some abuse and has needed to move on with her life. She has fallen on hard times...maybe on disability pension... is she the lesser of a person? Of course not!

I think Georgia and Wolf have seen that ugly side to life. Provincial disability/welfare...WCB... here in BC it's no better than in Ontario....you can count on that!
 Richard--
Joined: 11/13/2004
Msg: 161
"Hot bush"
Posted: 3/15/2005 1:20:16 AM
..."they came from the thrift store" Hey.... I shop in the local Hospital foundations thrift store down the street... my money goes to a good cause...like buying a heart defibralator for emerg... or an ultrasound machine for the labour-delivery-room. The threads I get are first class..sometimes even new. My money goes to local charity not to pad some Toronto CEO's already bloated 7 figure salary.
 Double Cabin
Joined: 11/29/2004
Msg: 162
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The Reality Of Welfare
Posted: 3/15/2005 12:57:56 PM
Welfare is not nearly the drain on our tax dollars that other things are; it is such a small part of the pie, in the US in any event. Sure there is abuse, but compared to the infinite number of pork barrel projects that add up far more welfare is indisputably not our most pressing problem to address. If you stereotype people because of whether they are on public assistance or not there is much you have not learned in that life. There is no such thing as universal circumstance. Look within, not without.
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 182
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 7:47:20 AM
No, I wouldn't date someone who is on welfare. Nothing personal, but to be honest, I would always have suspicions of ulterior motives. I don't mean to offend anyone, just simply telling it like it is.
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 184
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 7:54:01 AM
Here’s what bugs me with SOME welfare cases ... standing in line at the grocery store, person has to remove items from their basket because there is not enough “money” on the “Access Card” (Pennsylvania’s Welfare ATM card) to buy it all. You feel bad at first when you glance over the three kids and hope they will have enough to eat. Then the person pulls a $20 out of their pocket and buys three packs of cigarettes. Then you feel really bad for those kids. Smoke ‘em while you got ‘em, I suppose ... f*cktards
 NeoRaijin
Joined: 4/17/2005
Msg: 187
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 8:31:38 AM
Unless her source of income is illegal/immoral, I dodn't truly care.
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 189
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 9:10:38 AM

I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WETHER TO DATE SOMEONE,JUST BY HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE IN THERE POCKET

Regardless of why someone is on welfare - there are legitimate cases and purposes for the program - if you're an individual who makes a "comfortable" living, at some point you should question whether the person is interested in you or your money. I know not everyone is after money, but there are some. If you have worked hard to get ahead in life, you don't want to close your eyes and let the thief in through the front door.
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 190
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 9:12:59 AM
@ darma

A woman after my own heart ... I think I'm in love ... LOL ... Seriously, I couldn't have said that better myself
 Diggy03
Joined: 4/7/2005
Msg: 194
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 9:22:16 AM
Our system not only can be abused.... but it's faulty at every level. They say the whole purpose to Social Assistance is just that.. to assist people in need to ease them back into work.... yet when you remove government funded education programs to those who don't have access by any other means (most provinces have done this), or at least don't know how else to go about getting a proper education.... once they are in the job force for oh let's say minimum wage.. they are still on Social assistance... having their cheques supplemented to make ends meet. Thus staying on the system as that's all they know.

Yes there are a lot of people especially in isolated area's who are so selfish they think of their needs before their childrens needs. The state does not have the man power to take and place into foster care every child from a "welfare" home where drug and alcohol use is the norm.

You can all sit here and judge people on "the system".. sit here and complain, or you can actually get out there and change it.

Who here is guilty of voting the Liberals BACK into government? Not me!!!!!
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 195
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 9:23:02 AM

I will not date someone that... can not provide for themselves. I will not date someone that... I have to financialy support.
I have one child! I do not need another to support.

Not saying that they have to be rich!!! Just saying they have tobe able to support themselves.


... wow, this thread is uncovering all kinds of "potentials" ... LOL ... again, well said, Exavier
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 198
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 9:53:12 AM
@Exavier,
All you have to do as a woman to ensure you will have a roof over your head, your utilities paid, food on the table and some extra spending money is have a baby. You get an 18-year ride.

But I do agree, welfare has its place and use. Living where I do, I have seen the best and worst of it. This is one of the country’s poorest regions since the bottom fell out of the steel and coal industries. I saw one friend’s dad, a coal miner all his life, use the assistance to allow him to go back to school at 47 and become an occupational therapist. At the same time, I have known people who pump out one baby after another, the couple never gets married, the dad who has a job doesn’t officially live in the same household so they get all the gov’t benefits plus the money from his job ... and it was all planned!!!

@ Darma,
Indeed they do
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 200
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:01:35 AM
Mean? Elaborate, please
 Diggy03
Joined: 4/7/2005
Msg: 202
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:08:33 AM
Social Assistance does have certain criteria and programs. Has anyone here ever been on Assistance in Ontario who can clarify?

When you apply you have to go to an "information session" where you learn how the program works. They specifically tell you that you have two options while on assistance, you can volunteer (which will hopefully gain you employment), or you can do a job search where you are actively searching for work and MUST have potential employers sign a sheet that shows you are looking.

Now certain programs are automatically paid for by assistance like your WHMIS, or smart serve, stuff like that. If you can show just cause why you need asistance to pay for college or university courses they MAY help you out. See here in Ontario we have OSAP (Ontario Secondary Application Program) you receive financial aid from the government to pay your tuition, books and living expenses. Well if you qualify.

Getting back to Social Assistance... you can make up to I think 250.00 a month through work then anything over that they deduct dollar for dollar. About how the system keeps people on it, if you figure that a person works two part time jobs raising a child or two... the one job goes to pay for the daycare and the other job you aren't even breaking even. You all know how expensive rent is ESPECIALLY in geared to income housing (which is the crappiest housing you can live in). Well you need assistance to supplement what you make to make ends meet. To have even a supplement keeps you on the system. Especially if you work at a job where there is no such thing as room for advancement or where it would take years to advance.

It amazes me how any of you who have never BEEN there pass judgement so quickly. Take the blinders off and see ALL the people who are on assistance.... NOT just the ones you want to see.

@YamIhere

Some 18 year ride. They don't pay enough to make it worth your while to stay on it that long. It is my understanding that here you have to get off assistance at least by the time your youngest is in school. For myself when my daughter turned a year old... (regardless of why I was on assistance) they were pushing me to find work. I wonder if my university degree had any bearing on that!!!
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 203
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:13:04 AM
@Exavier,
No, darlin ... not at all. I think everyone should be held fiscally responsible for their children. What I was alluding to was government programs and the “welfare mothers” that abuse them. I won’t touch child support with a 120-foot pole

Sheesh ... how evil do you think I am?
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 206
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:15:06 AM

I wonder if my university degree had any bearing on that!!

Yup, sure did. In the U.S., if you're a young girl, drop out of high school, have no marketable skills, just have a baby and the government will take care of you. It may be a meager existence, but you get to spend all that time with your child.
 YamIhere
Joined: 3/17/2005
Msg: 209
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:23:54 AM
Oh, I’m an a$$, but I like to think I am at least a sensible a$$
 ontario_woman
Joined: 4/3/2005
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:24:29 AM
I'm from Ontario and unless someone is abusing the system badly as in raking in thousands of dollars on the side, I don't look down on those who need it. They give you so little and constantly make you jump through hoops for every penny. For those who stay on it for years, I just think that it's sad that they lost hope and don't try to aspire to something better. Life on Welfare grinds you down and sucks all hope out of you. It is a very unpleasant life.

I was on it for a few months when I left my abusive ex. I'm not lazy and I am a responsible person. I'm on OSAP now (that's student loans for those of you who don't live in Ontario) and receiving straight A's in school. I didn't want my daughter to grow up in poverty, so I went back to school. I was one of the lucky ones.

I know people with University degrees that can't find work. I know people with disabilities that can't find a job because employers don't want to have to accomodate them. I know people who worked for decades, then ended up getting laid off and finding themselves on the rolls that they used to complain about. Many of them end up stuck on these rolls, because even though they might have 20 or 30 years experience at a factory, they can't find other work because of age discrimination and because manufacturing jobs are going elsewhere.

Be careful when you judge. You might find yourself on the Welfare line someday too.
 Diggy03
Joined: 4/7/2005
Msg: 213
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Would you date someone who is on welfare?
Posted: 6/14/2005 10:26:13 AM
YamIhere....

Here in Ontario if you have no high school education there are adult education centres where you have to go to get your upgrading or you can just write the GED (General Education Diploma test) that will get you into most any college.

I think more people who say they care about their kids and want a better future for them... should look into applying to college or university as mature students. Oh but wait.... if you get accepted to either and you are accepted for OSAP... you CAN'T be on welfare. Hmmm... desicions decisions for some people!!!!!

Why couldn't I have been born into a native family!!!!
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