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 cpfstock
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 67
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me outPage 3 of 5    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
Dang, sounds like I need to check out what this Beck guy is saying.
 jed456
Joined: 4/26/2005
Msg: 68
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 9/26/2009 2:32:41 AM
I sat through one show of becks when he started praising Joseph McCarthy it was time to switch the channel.



You probably never heard of Van Jones, and you may never hear of him again. Until last week, he was President Obama's adviser on "Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation" in the White House Council on Environmental Quality.

But he is no longer. Now he's out of a job. And therein lies a tale that should make all of us angry or nervous.

One man railroaded Jones out of his job: Fox News anchor and radio talk show host Glenn Beck. You remember him. He's the nut who called President Obama a "racist" on "Fox and Friends" last July 28.

There was a time, not so long ago, when calling the president of the United States a "racist" on national television would get an anchor fired. But that was before Fox News. At Fox, archenemy of President Obama, Beck was not only not fired he was treated like a folk hero -- even though some 60 major corporate sponsors stopped advertising on his program in protest.

Rather than apologize to President Obama, the decent thing to do, Beck went berserk, accusing Obama of staging a quiet coup d'etat to turn this country into a Cuba-like communist dictatorship. "There is a revolution," he warned his gullible audience, "and they think they can get away with it quietly. ... Most of America doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. There is a coup going on." (Cue the Black Hawk helicopters!)

And, to help him carry out that coup, fumed Beck, Obama has surrounded himself with a gang of communist agitators known as "czars." Beck's first target: "Green Jobs" czar Van Jones.

Jones hardly fits the profile of a dangerous radical, unless saving the environment is your definition of subversive activity. A graduate of the University of Tennessee and Yale Law School, Jones became a community organizer and created the nation's first "Green Job Corps" in Oakland, Calif., in 2005. That same year, he also helped form the web-based grassroots organization Color of Change, which organized the current sponsor boycott of Beck's TV show. Jones left the organization in 2007. In January 2008, he launched "Green for All," a national organization to help lift people out of poverty through green jobs -- work for which he was recognized by Time magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the country. In March 2009, he joined the Obama administration.

Yes, along the way, Jones made a few mistakes. He once signed a petition urging an investigation into the crazy theory that George Bush and Dick Cheney actually staged the attacks of Sept. 11. In 1992, after being falsely arrested in the Rodney King riots, he described himself as a "communist" -- though he never joined the Communist Party, but instead channeled his energies into founding a highly respected anti-police brutality organization in the Bay Area. More recently, he referred to Congressional Republicans attempting to derail Obama's legislative agenda as "a-holes."

Foolish mistakes, perhaps, but hardly worth destroying a career over. Yet, in 14 episodes of his show, Beck seized on these statements to paint Jones as a dangerous "communist-anarchist radical" heading a vast radical/environmental/black nationalist takeover of America from within the Obama White House.

It was a page ripped right out of the book of Commie witch hunter Joseph McCarthy: personal attacks on little-known government officials based on nothing but lies, smears and innuendo ("Are you now, or have you ever been...?") -- yet ultimately, just as successful. Within two weeks, Jones was forced to resign. And, rather than defend him, the Obama White House accepted his resignation.

Welcome to the Beckification of American politics -- where one cable host alone, with no help from Congress, can bring down a top government official, based on a campaign of lies and distortion. God save the Republic!

One thing for sure, which Obama should have considered before accepting Jones' resignation: Having once tasted blood, Glenn Beck won't be satisfied with destroying Van Jones alone. In fact, he's already identified his next targets: so-called White House "czars" on energy and climate change, Carol Browner; on science, John Holdren, on regulatory reform, Cass Sunstein, and on communications, Mark Lloyd.

Beck's diabolical campaign is all the more bizarre given his own avowed history with alcohol and drug addiction.

Which raises a serious question: Why believe a recovering alcoholic and drug addict over a former community organizer? I'll trust Van Jones any day over Glenn Beck.

(Bill Press is host of a nationally syndicated radio show and author of a new book, "Train Wreck: The End of the Conservative Revolution (and Not a Moment Too Soon)." You can hear "The Bill Press Show" at his Web site:
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 69
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 9/26/2009 8:13:35 AM
Today, in Mount Vernon, WA, the misguided mayor will be giving Glenn Beck the key to the city where Beck lived as a child.

This has caused an outraged outcry from the citizens, and prompted the City Council members to publicly state that they have distanced themselves from the mayor's decision--I guess they'd like to be re-elected when the time comes.

Glenn Beck is beyond bizarre, and so is the mayor's decision to give the key to the city to a man who has done nothing to deserve it, aside from spending his formative youth living here.

I think the boy needs an enema.
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 71
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 9/26/2009 9:51:16 AM
Glenn Beck isn't so much a whistle blower--doesn't he have to belong to ACORN to actually be a whistle blower?--as he is a windbag.

Throw enough darts, and sooner or later, you're gonna hit the target.
And, it remains to be seen just how 'right' Beck was about ACORN.
My disgust with Beck and his ilk goes far beyond ACORN.
 cpfstock
Joined: 11/7/2005
Msg: 73
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 9/26/2009 11:24:19 AM

Throw enough darts

Not really familar with Glen Beck, but from what I'm reading here it's starting to sound a lot like hit dog barks.
 jed456
Joined: 4/26/2005
Msg: 77
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/3/2009 7:46:14 AM
The man is a true patriot in every sense of the word.


Your being serious?

If you think Joseph McCarthy is a "patriot" then you would think beck is one too.There one and the same in there tactics.

The guy is a buffoon who will do or say anything outrageous to make a buck and the simpleton's among us lap it up like a dog dying of thirst!
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 78
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/3/2009 8:00:29 AM
Glenn Beck is an entertainer--not a particularly appealing one--and, as such, he gets his audience from those who love bombast and hyperbole...and, sometimes, outright lying.

Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to educate ourselves and try to find reasonable solutions to complex issues.
 geeleebee
Joined: 5/26/2008
Msg: 82
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/3/2009 8:47:16 AM
The ACORN 'scandal' is overblown. It involves a fraction of the people who work for ACORN, and sadly, the 'scandal' will affect thousands of families who need help.
Gosh, thanks, Glenn Beck. You massive ass.

Beck isn't a hero. He threw enough darts and finally hit the target--not a bullseye, but the board.

Who DOESN'T want 'an honest government'? Seriously?

This statement is the best example of 'are you fricking SERIOUS?!' I have ever read/seen/heard:

...what he presents has truth within it.


'...truth within it...' WTF.
It doesn't have to BE the truth, as long as there is a modicum of 'truth within'.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the HUGE difference between those who act and those who REact.
 jed456
Joined: 4/26/2005
Msg: 83
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/3/2009 8:50:45 AM
Glen is not much different from the rest of us. Most of us want an honest government that works for the people as they should and this is what Glen has been and is pushing for.


Actually if you listen to the post above yours He is promoting the idea of states seceding from the union lets see wasn't this tried once before?Deaths During the Civil War



Union Confederacy



Total forces 1,556,678 1,082,119

Deaths from Wounds 110,070 94,000

Deaths from Disease 249,458 164,000

Death Rate 23 percent 24 percent

Wounded 275,175 100,000
Anyone sane want's an honest government.Beck is definately not a person to be taken seriously.

Here is a little more on this" patriot of the truth"

Beck praises constitutional provision protecting slave trade
Beck praises "Migration or Importation" tax provision in taking cheap shot at "immigrants." In the chapter, Beck reprints and then praises Article I, Section 9, Clause 1 of the Constitution. Beck specifically highlights in yellow the phrase "ten dollars for each person":

Section 9. The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

That's right, the Founders actually put a price tag on coming to this country: $10 per person. Apparently they felt like there was a value to being able to live here. Not anymore. These days we can't ask anything of immigrants -- including that they abide by our laws. [Arguing with Idiots, Page 278]


Provision Beck praised actually "barred Congress from ending the international slave trade before 1808." As noted by Yale Law School professor Akhil Reed Amar: "To make matters worse, despite the new Congress's general Article I, section 8 power over international commerce, section 9 barred Congress from ending the international slave trade before 1808. By that time, the Deep South hoped to have enough extra muscle in Congress, based on white migration and slave importation, to thwart any possible antislavery constitutional amendments and perhaps even to weaken any proposed ban on further slave importation. ... [T]he 1808 date itself was exempt from constitutional amendment under Article V." [Amar, America's Constitution: A Biography, Page 91]

 sd_matt
Joined: 7/9/2006
Msg: 87
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/6/2009 3:05:17 PM
The best in the media right not, IMHO, Jerry Doyle and Phil Henry. Late night AM radio.

If nothing else that that they give more raw information (especially Phil Henry). They give you more opportunities to look up what they say. It's common for Phil to read stuff to you. Many others will not do that and then give you their interpretation.
 sd_matt
Joined: 7/9/2006
Msg: 89
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/7/2009 12:16:50 AM
I'm probably splitting hairs here. Moore is more like Air America. Beck is a tiny step above. He's closer to Alan Combs factually but much more entertaining. Personal assessment.
 EarlzP
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 91
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/7/2009 6:44:44 AM

I'm probably splitting hairs here. Moore is more like Air America. Beck is a tiny step above. He's closer to Alan Combs factually but much more entertaining. Personal assessment.


Beck is an opportunist creating a feeding frenzy and then fiesting off of it, he throws in a little chum now and then to keep the feeding frenzy alive but he's mostly a user, a feeder a low life
 EarlzP
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 93
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 10/7/2009 9:21:40 AM

The Left fear Beck because information is what the Obama administration does not what us to have.


Your opinion your entitled to it factual or not


Obama ran on the concept of Transparency he has yet to exhibit this and has been in office for 9 months. They want to fast track everything and hide their true agenda in a blizzard of paperwork.


I guess writing it down is hiding it and the republicans the "party of no" is not capable of reading it


Why did the Stimulus plan require over 1.000 pages? Why was it given for review with so little time before voting?


I have no idea so why don't you tell me, opps you already did the President hid the facts by writing them down, now lets see if the document was vague you would be asking for more detail and claiming he was being vague in order to slip things inbetween the lines,Please tell me how many republicans are their in the senate and the Congress and do they have aids, lets say their are 100 republicans between the senate in the congress and that each of them have one aid thats 200 republicans to cover 1000 pages that means each republican would have had to read 5 pages, OMG what a job how could they do that it would take months if they read one word a day


I like Glen Beck and people like him as they are encouraging people to investigate, to little of that went on during the campaign. The enemy of this administration is information, the more people have the more they can see what his agenda is and how he is failing as President.


Glen Beck is an opportunist, a user, a distortionist your liking him is your business,
incidently you may want to pound the wall harder it appears that President Obama's job approval ratings are going up, that's what normally happens when a person is doing a good job
 EarlzP
Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 96
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:12:12 PM

Glenn Beck is a great source of information.

HAHAHA


His views are closer to George Washington than George Bush.


HAHAHAHA


If you don't like him, view the thousands of liberal media outlets that pretend to be unbiased. Freedom of speech is a great thing. Shutting people up is not only dangerous, it is unconstitutional as well.


I would never shut him up, I have a right to a good laugh once in a while, closer to George Washington? HAHAHAHA
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 100
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 4/29/2010 10:40:59 AM
Somehow, I just chanced upon watching the Massa episode. Otherwise, I never watch Beck-- not because he genuinely challenges my views, but because he challenges my gastrointestinal well-being. It was something to hear him admit "Viewers, I have just wasted your time for the last hour." I was thinking, "Maybe he should say this at the end of every show, if he doesn't already."

But, hey, Geraldo got his job on Fox News after the vault fiasco.
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 104
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/2/2010 8:33:08 AM

Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out


Glenn Beck hilariously presaged by a '94 Kids In The Hall

http://videosift.com/video/Glenn-Beck-hilariously-presaged-by-a-94-Kids-In-The-Hall
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 106
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/11/2010 6:21:45 AM

I challenge you to find anything that Beck has said that isn't true.

One search - "Glen Beck Lies"


He said that no other President had never been sworn into office without a Bible. He said he 'checked'.
He either did not check or checked up his arsegraped butt because he's lying. John Qunicy Adams used a law book. Franklin Pierce didn't even swear. He affirmed. Teddy Roosevelt used no Bible. Several Presidents kissed a Bible but did not swear on one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203769.html

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pinotable.html



Glenn Beck lied when he said recently that $1.4 million of stimulus momey was used to repair a door at Dyess AFB. The doors repaired were aircraft hangar doors and the cost was not $1.4 million.
The cost was $246000 out of $1.4 million in repairs funding.



In June Beck lied when he said that the US was the ONLY country that had a natural birthright provision. Here is the list of other countries that do:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-observing-birthright-citizenship.html



Glenn Beck lied when he said that the director of White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/
 jed456
Joined: 4/26/2005
Msg: 108
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Posted: 5/11/2010 12:37:56 PM
Jack slam dunk swish! <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0>


Thank you!
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 109
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/13/2010 5:06:35 PM
May 12, 2010: Back in Black - Glenn Beck's Nazi Tourette's

USA Link -
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-12-2010/back-in-black---glenn-beck-s-nazi-tourette-s


Canadian Link -
http://www.thecomedynetwork.ca/Displayblog.aspx?bpid=3209ffca-177f-4fad-ba7d-4af630555d7c
 flyguy51
Joined: 8/11/2005
Msg: 110
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/13/2010 7:57:57 PM
As disappointing as it is to say this, Beck seems to be more principled in one area than McCain seems to be. Regarding the Times Square bomber being read his Miranda rights, McCain thought that was the wrong course of action. It seems that, to him, being a bomber of Islamic background trumps having the Constitutionally protected rights of a US citizen. Beck, to his credit, agreed to the reading of his Miranda rights, as much as it appeared to pain him to say so.

I have always had mixed feelings about McCain, but, boy, I get more and more glad I didn't vote for him as time goes on...
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 112
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/24/2010 9:11:44 AM
Apparently he's been going after a Congressman who is investigating one of Beck's advertisers.

Beck lost most of his sponsors with some really crazy, hateful comments, so now he has third tier companies advertising on his show. One of them is Goldline - which Beck personally shills for. Anyway, Goldline is essentially one of those crooked outfits that have always been around. The Better Business Bureau in every state has a littany of complaints about them - they sell you gold, but charge several times its actual worth.

They've ripped off enough people, that now they're starting to get some heat. And Beck is running interference for them. It's pretty bad when you have to defend con artists on your show because legitimate companies won't advertise with you.
 FrankNStein902
Joined: 12/26/2009
Msg: 114
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/25/2010 1:40:07 PM

What will God tell The Beckster to do?


God: I want you to make B. O'Reilly say "I Like Weiner" ."

Beck: K


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14e_1274729507
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 115
Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/26/2010 7:34:12 AM
Holy Cow! I had no idea just how loopy this guy is:


Beck sees elaborate scheme designed to "destroy" him

Beck: Due to Alinskyite conspiracy, "my children have been in jeopardy," my "family is under attack." On Fox Business' America's Nightly Scoreboard, host David Asman discussed Weiner's investigation into the questionable business practices of one of Beck's sponsors, Goldline. Asman asked Beck whether critics are taking from the "Saul Alinsky handbook," and Beck said, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. You isolate and destroy. Isolate and destroy. That's what -- that's -- that's their whole mantra. They try to do it with Rush [Limbaugh], they try to do it with Fox. They're just coming after me, and they've been relentless. This kind of stuff has coming after me for over a year." Beck added: "When you have your children in jeopardy, which my children have been in jeopardy; when your family is under attack; when you have the death threats; when you can't go anywhere without major security because of these groups and what they say and how they distort and how they lie." [America's Nightly Scoreboard, 5/24/10]

Beck on criticism: "The Nixon enemy list? Please. This is nothing like that. This is targeting and destroying." During the May 24 America's Nightly Scoreboard, Beck and Asman accused Weiner of "trying to destroy" Beck's career and "scare" his advertisers with his investigation into Beck's relationship with Goldline. Beck suggested either the White House or Weiner was "directing his attack" and connected it to the SEIU, the AFL-CIO, Van Jones, and a former Media Matters employee:

BECK: Look, I have -- David, I have -- I have Van Jones leading a boycott against me. I have Jim Wallis, the president's spiritual and political adviser, leading a boycott against me. I have SEIU and Andy Stern -- SEIU, most frequent guest in the White House -- Andy Stern, also an adviser. I have AFL-CIO, Richard Trumka giving a speech at Harvard, saying we're going to do something about this Glenn Beck stuff. I mean, he's [Weiner's] just the fifth. His assistant was the PR director, I think, or the spokesperson for Media Matters.

ASMAN: Oh, that's a coincidence.

BECK: I mean, you've got the same -- you've got the same people. An hour after he held this press conference, he was at the White House.

ASMAN: Is the White House directing his attack?

BECK: I don't know. I don't know.

ASMAN: What do you think?

BECK: Well, seeing that we already have three people already doing it directly related to the president of the United States, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think that Weiner might be doing it.

Beck then claimed the White House's strategy is to take Fox personalities out "one at a time" and that he's "next." He stated:

BECK: Polarize that individual and make that individual toxic. That's not coming after all of Fox, because that wakes everybody up. Do it small. Take them out one at a time. I'm just the first. And if you take me out, then what happens? Does [Bill] O'Reilly go? Does Sean [Hannity] go? Do you go? And once they clean this place out, then who goes? Is it Diane Sawyer? Is it [George] Stephanopoulos? Who is it? Who's next? I mean, it's -- I've never seen anything like it before. This, this -- the Nixon enemy list? Please. This is nothing like that. This is targeting and destroying. [America's Nightly Scoreboard, 5/24/10]

Beck: "[I]f you associate yourself at all with Glenn Beck, Congress will come after you." On his radio program, Beck said: "Now that we have a congressman coming after this show and trying to discredit me and my sponsors, and driving yet another wedge, another stake, and trying to use fear -- if you associate yourself at all with Glenn Beck, Congress will come after you. That's exactly what's happening. We already had the White House -- look, I've had -- I've had sponsors that were on television, big sponsors, that said Glenn, we can't handle the White House coming after us. ... I warn you, you're losing your soul in response. ... If you don't stand up now, who's going to be there when they come after you?" Beck later said: "I hope to God Congress and this administration never disagree with you. You don't stand up for me, who's going to stand up when they target you?" [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/18/10]

On O'Reilly, Beck suggests White House involved in conspiracy to "destroy" him. On Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, Beck again brought up Weiner's investigation into Goldline, while eating a wiener sausage, and claimed that "t's weird" that Weiner was investigating Goldline because, he claimed, they were a reputable company. Beck added: "It's almost like Weiner is going after something else." Beck also mentioned that one of Weiner's "main people ... used to work for Media Matters, which is weird." Host Bill O'Reilly later suggested Weiner may be "working with people in Congress or in the White House to try to destroy you," and Beck suggested the criticism from the AFL-CIO, SEIU, Jim Wallis, and Van Jones were examples of the White House's involvement in trying to "destroy" him:

O'REILLY: But that's why it's not a joke. That's why it's not a joke. Because if Weiner -- if Weiner is working with people in Congress or in the White House to try to destroy you, that's not a joke, Beck. Then I have to get involved and defend you.

BECK: Wait a minute. Hold it, hold it. Hang on just a second. Thank you.

O'REILLY: You're welcome.

BECK: Here's the thing. So it wasn't a joke when Jim Wallis, the spiritual and political adviser of President Barack Obama, is boycotting me. Leading a boycott. Leading a --

O'REILLY: Nobody knows who he is, though.

BECK: He is a spiritual and political adviser.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but nobody knows. Nobody cares.

BECK: He's meeting with the president. Then you have Andy Stern, SEIU.

O'REILLY: Yeah.

BECK: SEIU leading a boycott, trying to put me out of business. Huh. There's two people that are targets of mine. Van Jones, his organization leading a boycott.

You have AFL-CIO president of -- what's his name, Trumka -- coming out and saying, "We're going to do something about the Beck problem." Really?

And now Weiner. Please call me to testify, please? Please. I will be so respectful.

O'REILLY: Of all those people -- of all those people, Weiner -- Weiner is the one you should take seriously. The others are, you know. [The O'Reilly Factor, 5/21/10]

Beck: Weiner is "trying to put blinders on this society" and is "shutting down another way for you to protect yourself." On his Fox News program, Beck posited that the real reason Weiner was investigating Beck's relationship with Goldline was because the federal government didn't want people investing in gold, but rather in Treasury Inflation Protected Securities. Beck said:

BECK: Well, if you think a collapse is coming, if you think things are bad, if you think inflation is coming, well, you're not going to put your money into gold -- or, I mean, into treasuries. You're going to put it into gold, which made this happen.

But they figured it out. That's why the Treasury came up with something called TIPS -- Treasury Inflation Protected Securities.

What you do is you buy these and you say, they're lying, man. Are you kidding me? Inflation is going to go through the roof.

You buy these. It's a -- it's a hedge against inflation. It's a bet against inflation. It's a hedge against what they're telling you is the truth right now.

In the 1980s, they remembered this. They realized that if we have problems, people take their money out of bonds and put it into gold or silver or precious metals. When you do that, you then are in control of your wealth, and they lose money.

That's why they came up with this. That's why this price is not over here, because they also needed to do something else. They needed to make sure that they could get away with spending out of control as long as they could.

If gold was $3,000 an ounce today, you'd be freaking out. The markets would be freaking out.

So, they made it paper instead because most people don't understand this. Well, that's not so bad. Oh, no, look, 1980, it was here.

This is nonsense. TIPS allows you to continue until the patient is almost dead.

Congressman Weiner, under the guise of attacking me, is not really attacking me. He's trying to put blinders on this society. The hedge for inflation now is bonds. TIPS suppresses the price of gold. Do you get it?

Beck added: "This is not about me or anybody else; this is about shutting -- shutting down another way for you to protect yourself. Protect yourself. It doesn't have to be this. Find another way." [Glenn Beck, 5/19/10]

Beck outlines Van Jones-SEIU-Wallis-Media Matters' "unholy alliance" against him. On his Fox News program, Beck speculated that there is a "grassroots unholy alliance" to "silence anybody who speaks out about this program or anybody at all that is involved -- scare the friends, scare anybody away." Part of the "unholy alliance," according to Beck, is Jim Wallis, Andy Stern, Van Jones, the AFL-CIO, and Weiner. Beck claimed Weiner's presence is "interesting because we graduated into a darker level now, because now it's official. McCarthy has appeared." Then, Beck accused Media Matters -- "the spin machine for the left" -- of "start[ing] the ridiculous attack on gold sponsorships" and being part of the "unholy alliance" with Weiner:

BECK: On another completely unrelated story, Weiner's newly hired press secretary until recently worked -- no, not at the Center for American Progress financed by George Soros -- but Media Matters, funded by George Soros. You know, the spin machine for the left. Isn't that -- I like Weiner.

It was Media Matters, by the way, who first started the lie that we could read in, I think, the LA Times and then The Washington Post, which this guy is -- oh, he's doing stuff for The Washington Post? The little story came from Media Matters that my ratings were down on this program.

Well, now, we can tell you, because the official ratings are out May to May -- and it's weird. They're down so far that they're actually up 22 percent. It sounds like a smear campaign with no facts at all.

It was also Media Matters who started the ridiculous attack on gold sponsorships. Now, that -- that is something we should look into -- this unholy alliance of Media Matters and Weiner's. [Glenn Beck, 5/19/10]

Beck says Weiner is "actually trying on the shoes of McCarthy." On his radio program, Beck said: "Now we have four -- four organizations all tied to the White House ... and now we have a congressman actually trying on the shoes of McCarthy and going to stop their political enemy." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/19/10]

Beck says "tips are coming in" about Weiner FEC penalties, and Goldline complaints are "now officially McCarthy." Also on his radio show, Beck stated: "Tips are coming in like crazy on Tony Weiner. ... So the FEC has two cases under review about Congressman Weiner. Both cases have the same name: Friends of Weiner." Beck later said: "Now this is the guy that's targeting the -- my sponsor now. This is becoming now, this is -- Stu, am I overstating? This is now officially McCarthy." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/18/10]

Beck says: "You will have to shoot me in the head. We are not stopping." On his radio program, Beck said: "Let me tell you this: They shut me down on radio, that's fine, I'll do TV. They shut me down on TV, that's fine, I'll do Internet. They shut me down on the Internet, that's fine, I'll do stage shows. They shut me down on stage shows, that's fine, I'll go door to door. You will have to shoot me in the head. We are not stopping. If you can frequent any of our sponsors, only -- only if you feel they are going to give you the right deal, the best deal. Only if you feel that this is something that you want and are interested in. I value your hard-earned money far too much. ... If you can support our sponsors or you can become an Insider Extreme member, I ask you to do it." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/18/10]

Beck declares: "We are in full-fledged McCarthy land now. ... America, look out." On his radio program, Beck read from a post in which Media Matters' Will Bunch criticized the "relationship between Beck and the odd list of gimmicky products he peddles," and then noted that Weiner had launched an investigation into Goldline. He stated: "And now they are using the Congress of the United States -- we are in full-fledged McCarthy land now. Nobody cared -- nobody cared that three advisers were targeting me and this show, trying to drive me out of business. They can't prove me wrong; they never have tried. I stand with the facts, but now -- now they're using the power of Congress. America, look out. Look out. That's not fearmongering. That is truth-telling." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/18/10]

Beck compares Weiner's Goldline report to McCarthyism, says it's "another arm of this administration trying to shut me down." On his radio program, Beck mocked Weiner's name and said: "This is incredible. This is again, another arm of this administration coming out to try to shut me down. This is absolutely incredible. Is there anybody that is going to say anything in the press at any time if you stand up against this White House? They have three -- count them -- three advisers of this president that have launched official campaigns boycotting my sponsors. Any sponsor that stays with me, now they're targeting -- you want to talk about the McCarthy era? Look at what this country is becoming. Is there anyone -- anyone -- that has the courage to stand up against these monsters? Look at what they are doing. It's incredible." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/18/10]

Beck says the White House is "trying to make a lesson out of me." On his radio program, Beck said the White House is "trying to make a lesson out of me" and speculated that criticism from SEIU, Van Jones, Jim Wallis, and Weiner are "all coordinated." Then, he suggested Media Matters "started" the Goldline investigation:

BECK: There is a problem with the truth. There is an absolute problem with the truth. There is nobody telling it. Very few. And those -- I think there are a lot of members of the media that want to but for some reason or another are not. And whether that's, you know, get along to get along, you don't know what the future holds, am I on the right side? Am I on the wrong side? What are the corporations saying?

I mean, there's -- there's something to be said when you don't think that them -- that SEIU, Van Jones, Jim Wallis, and now a Weiner investigation --

STU BURGUIERE (producer): Weinergate?

BECK: -- yeah, Weinergate -- on my sponsors, you don't think that that's a message just meant for me, do you? That's a message meant for everybody in the press. Don't screw with us. Don't screw with us. Remember what they said. Remember when they came out against Fox; they said we don't recommend that you treat them -- we're not going to treat them like a legitimate news source, and we recommend that you don't either. Well, now that didn't work. So instead of just coming out and saying it, you nudge people. That's what's happening. They're nudging people. They are trying to make a lesson out of me. You will be a pariah. We'll destroy you. [...] They get you by isolating everything, by separating everything. It's not. These are not isolated incidents. These are -- these are coordinated. They're all coordinated. And I believe the Center for American Progress is, you know, the star chamber, if you want to call it that. It's the doom bunker. It's where it all comes from. Center for American Progress, period.

Now, where did Weiner come from? What are his connections to Center for American Progress? I know that his -- what is it, his assistant works for or used to work for Media Matters? ...

BURGUIERE: I guess his press secretary or something.

BECK: His press secretary used to work for Media Matters. Well, who started this thing? Media Matters. Coincidence? Really? I mean, it's just -- come on. It's ridiculous. It's laughable, and that's why we're treating it like a big wiener investigation. [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/24/10]

Beck also suggests progressives are out to "destroy our faith"

Beck: Progressives have "almost-complete plan" to "destroy the Constitution, destroy the founders, and destroy our faith." On his radio show, Beck said, "Freedom is on the run," and attacked progressives by saying they have an "almost-complete plan," through social justice, to "destroy the Constitution, destroy the founders, and destroy our faith." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/24/10]

Beck says Media Matters "want[s] the faith of the former Soviet Union. Atheism, nihilism, God is dead." On his May 24 radio program, Beck read from a post in which Media Matters' Bunch criticized him for promoting a book that distorts George Washington's views on faith. Beck responded: "Why must you destroy their belief? Why must you make them an atheist or a Deist to say they want everything equal. Because you must demonize Christians, that's why. You can't handle -- these people cannot handle the fact that Samuel Adams said, 'I am no bigot. I will pray with any man.' Yet he was profoundly Christian. They can't handle the fact that these Christians went into courts and fought for other faith and their rights. They can't handle it. They don't understand it, they don't want to understand it. These people want the faith of the former Soviet Union. Atheism, nihilism, God is dead." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/24/10]

Beck lashes out at Media Matters and tells viewers to "live in the lie" or "stand in the fire of truth." On his Fox News show, Beck said, "There is a revival going on in America, and the left hates it," while referring again to Bunch's criticism. Beck said his viewers were part of the "revival" and can "live in the lie" or "stand in the fire of truth." [Glenn Beck, 5/24/10]

Beck: "Media Matters ... has to destroy the founders and Christianity." On his Fox News program, Beck said: "We have to bring ourselves together, because they're not going to give up. I mean, they are very well organized, and they want revolution. ... They'll unite with anybody." He continued: "That's the reason why the media has to destroy -- Media Matters, I should say -- has to destroy the founders in Christianity. They can't have this guy [George Washington] be a good guy and a Christian. They can't have it, because then all of this stuff goes away. You have to have Christians be a bigot." [Glenn Beck, 5/24/10]

Beck says the mainstream media and Wallis are "trying to unite Christians against" him. On his radio program, Beck said, "Last night, we had quite a show on social justice. You understand why they are trying to unite Christians against me. And they are all done by -- all of these things are done by the mainstream media under the direction of Jim Wallis, a Marxist, and his groups. They are a very small minority, but they have the mouthpiece of this government." [The Glenn Beck Program, 5/19/10]

I know I've mentioned that from up here, it seems like the Right in the US spends a lot of time in self pity and whining. But, my God, this guy this guy takes it from annoying background muzak to high Opera. If a novelist were to invent a character like this I'd put the book down and figure the author was going really over the line and had broken the "willing suspension of disbelief" bargain.

I've met crazy people before, so that doesn't shock me. What shocks me is that he has a freaking TV show.
 jed456
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 5/26/2010 10:03:16 AM
Whats is really bizarre is one of beck's heroes is Former Sen. Joseph McCarthy of the famous McCarthy witch hunts.I just love karma!
This guy beck is living in some conspiracy paranoid deluded little sandbox.As for Beck having a TV show if the jersey shore can make it anyone can.Jesus shaking my head.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 6/5/2010 12:20:42 PM
Looks like we're in the final act of Beckomania:

Glenn Beck has been in denial about his ratings slide for weeks now. First, he claimed that there is no ratings decline for his Fox News show, and then he claimed that the weather was to blame for his 33% drop in viewership. However by attracting only 1.7 million viewers on Friday, Beck hit a new all time low which is now 50% off of his peak audience of 3.4 million.

On Friday, Beck pulled an all time low of 1.776 million viewers, and while this is good enough to handily win his time slot, this marked a new low which has quickly turned into a free fall since January. At the close of 2009, Beck was still averaging 3 million total viewers a day. At his peak, Beck could draw 3.4 million plus viewers a day. There was talk of him eventually supplanting cable news king Bill O’Reilly.

The story for Glenn Beck last week was the same as it has been for all of the other weeks over the past few months. He starts strong on Monday, but he loses viewers on each of the following days of the week. Last Monday, Beck had 2.3 million viewers. By Tuesday, he had 2.1 million viewers. On Wednesday and Thursday, he had 2 million viewers, and by Friday he was down to 1.77 million viewers. What should be most troubling to Fox News is that Beck did not have one below average day. He had three. Beck’s average number of viewers had fallen to 2.2 million viewers, but on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, he was under that.

The root of the problem remains Glenn Beck himself. Beck fancies himself to be a political leader now, not an entertainer. On his radio show on April 20, Beck said, “When we were, and I’ve never told this story before, when we were starting the TV show, there were things that I did that I wouldn’t do now because I had to be more of an entertainer to get people to go what is this show at five o’clock? I never said anything I didn’t believe, but I may have said things in an entertaining fashion.” The problem is that viewers don’t seem to like the new serious Glenn Beck.

In reaction to the ratings drop, Beck has tried to spice things up by adding lots more God into his program in an effort to bring back the Evangelicals, and he started the gimmick Founders’ Friday which comes complete with a studio audience. Since Founders’ Friday led to his lowest numbers ever, I would say that it isn’t working. Beck has gone to the three Fox News G’s (God, Guns, and Gimmicks), and yet his audience continues to erode.

While Beck refuses to admit that he is losing viewers, Fox News is saddled with a program that generates no ad revenue, and sagging viewership totals. If Beck’s show starts pulling under the 2 million viewers a day Fox News averages on a consistent basis, changes will be made. Whether he wants to admit or not, Glenn Beck has a real problem here. His viewers are slowly eroding away. The Beck fad appears to be over, and what Fox News has left is redundant, repetitive, one trick pony of a host.

Crazy rants get old fast - as anyone whose heard them in real life can attest to. It doesn't mean anything about political trends, it just means that he ran out of material a long time ago and you can only hear, "Obama = Nazi" so many times before you change channels.
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