Plentyoffish dating forums are a place to meet singles and get dating advice or share dating experiences etc. Hopefully you will all have fun meeting singles and try out this online dating thing... Remember that we are the largest free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate.
     
Show ALL Forums  > Current Events  >      Home login  
 AUTHOR
 WakeDan
Joined: 8/16/2006
Msg: 69
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?Page 4 of 4    (1, 2, 3, 4)
man, the cost for a business to add a 3rd bathroom? especially a small business, like a gas station? Some of those barely have room for the 2 bathrooms they have. To add one space that will only get used a couple times a month....then see the cost of it being passed on to us through the products they sell....no thanks.

And i disagree with the line urinals are obsolete, lol. I got a chuckle from that one. urinals are the ONLY reason the men's lines are so short. And that fact has probably helped countless brave women over the years, as they ran into the empty stall, glared at by all the women in the long women's line.

I used to sneak my gf into the men's room at big events like football games and county fairs, where the women's line was unbelievable, I'm saying like 50 women in line. The guys would stroll right by the women, whistling Dixie, walk in to the men's room and walk out before the women's line had advance even one person. Man we got the evil eye. Well I sure wasn't going to stand for an hour while my gf suffered. So i escorted her in to the men's. No one would even look at her, since i was there. You should have heard the grumbling from the women when we came out. Oh well, THEIR problem. My gf was happy lol.

I notice the younger gals, in their 20s, have no problem using men's rooms at the dance clubs. The guys room at one club has 3 urinals, and a large handicap accessible stall. Almost everytime I go in there, I hear girl's voices in the stall. Two girls go in at once usually, sometimes one. I've even waved girls in that looked like they were in dire need...held the door open and said 'stalls open if you want to use it' 'THANK YOU!!' is the reply I get. The only people who object are the bouncers, if they happen to catch it, strictly for legal reasons. But if no bouncer, you will often see girls in the men's line up, the guys will willingly bypass the stall so the ladies can have it. And for all the years I've been going I have never seen a guy act perverted, or try to sneak a peak. It's probably because the doors to the mens and womens actually face each other. The womens door is propped open by the line up, and there is usually a small lineup at the mens, enough to prop their door open too. So, none of the guys is going to act like a creep, in front of 20 girls in the hallway....girls that they will be trying to dance with a little later. Keeps em honest so to speak.

Last time, two girls were at the mirror checking their makeup after they used the stall! That's getting REALLY comfortable.
 nipoleon
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 71
view profile
History
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 6/6/2007 4:40:56 AM
Any woman, or anyone who looks like a woman, who want's to use the Men's room while I'm there, is welcome to as far as I'm concerned.
For practical purposes, I'd say you should use the bathroom of the gender you're trying to be.
But, you can always use the Men's room when in doubt.
 generally
Joined: 5/27/2007
Msg: 73
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 6/6/2007 9:17:25 AM
From my own experience, some women do socialise in the public washroom, but not the men's.


And it is true , many transsexuals wouldn't even use the transgender washrooms because they might as well wear a sign that read “I am a transsexual.”

I know some transsexuals who can pass as females and it’s not just about “dressing up in woman’s clothes”, it’s about having a female face and body after being on estrogen for several years and some trans women who still looks like a a badly dressed drag queen and they face more danger when they enter the *wrong* washroom.
 susan_cd
Joined: 5/16/2007
Msg: 76
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 1/12/2010 12:12:08 PM

"""The problem comes in when a woman in that
washroom "might" notice that the other "woman" is really a guy. THAT is where the
problem comes in. ""


That's one of the problems. Another is that a man dressed as a woman enters & uses the men's room because, as spiderham said in post # 8 :


I have trouble understanding why this is an issue... Your either Male or Female. I could care less what you think you might be.. It doesn't change what you are at that exact moment. When you decide to make the cross to the opposite gender, then your more then welcome to use the other washroom.


is confronted by a narrow minded a**hole ( or a narrowminded a**hole & his good buddies) and is beaten up because they're dressed as a woman. And as occasioianlly happens, the police figure the victim was to blame for putting themself in that situation
 susan_cd
Joined: 5/16/2007
Msg: 77
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 1/12/2010 12:18:38 PM

Are you serious? There is nothing wrong with male "ca ca" (as you put it). But my body is my body and I prefer to keep it private and not available to every Tom,**** and Harry. I would feel very uncomfortable having to literally share the same washroom as a man at the same time!


I'm curious, how often do you strip down & parade around the public washroom naked?

I assume you close the door of the stall when you use it, then leave the stall to wash your hands before exiting. Unless you do strip down while in there, any Tom,**** and Harry would see only what, you washing & drying your hands? Or maybe touching up your makeup?
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 78
view profile
History
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 1/13/2010 8:26:32 PM
This is all too funny. I can't tell you how many times I have simply gone into the men's room and used a stall ... rather than stand in line for a half hour for a stall in the lady's room.

I could care less who is using the stall next to me and could care less what they are doing in it.

I could care less if they know I am urinating or having a BM. I'm just there to relieve myself and get the hell back out of there ... no matter which restroom I'm in.
 kabiosile
Joined: 11/3/2005
Msg: 79
view profile
History
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 1/15/2010 8:46:59 AM
Yeah, this is a strange thread. No one would know the difference between a transgendered person peeing sitting down from a woman sitting down unless they are looking. It will sound exactly the same. pee hitting the water.

I think gendered bathrooms are beyond puritanical as is. To make a separate bathroom for transgendered folk is beyond stupid. It makes it like they have some sort of disease and they cannot be in the restroom with other men and women. Which I would find more offensive by far.

I think some people in this thread have more issues about sexual orientation than most of the transgendered folk I have met. I have never heard a single one complain ever about which restroom they use when they have to go. They just go.

Yes it is true some people come mentally orientated as the opposite sex. It is also true that some people imitate it for attention as well and that still others only do it to shock others. In the end it does not really bother me what a person chooses or was born with when it comes to orientation.

To waste money and make bathrooms only suited for transgendered folk??

Well it would make sense for a lot of places to make a unisex bathroom for overflow. Especially a club that serves alcohol but, to waste money on a transgendered bathroom unless the population is high (gay bar, or area that has a lot of transgendered etc) is idiotic.

I bet if you asked most transgendered people what was highest on their list of things to change about society it would have nothing to do with bathrooms.

It would have more to do with all the people, tryin to kill them, beat them etc. simply because they are "different", or people's ignorance in the way they treat them.

In short no transgendered restrooms are not needed. In fact this is more like a troll post that, feeds to the conservative nonsense mentality that somehow there is a conspiracy of "all minority groups are trying to get special attention."

What these people whom think this way, do not understand is these groups are not asking for special treatment at all. They wish to be treated EQUALLY that is all.

It is not equal to give special privileges to men and women whom choose to make a commitment and not offer that same privilege to 2 men or 2 women whom choose to commit their lives together.

These are the things minorities are demanding from the public. This whole thread just plays into the hands of the other side whom wish to keep the status quo.


Same as it ever was.
 dwmitch
Joined: 12/31/2009
Msg: 81
view profile
History
Transgender washrooms?? Are they needed?
Posted: 12/3/2010 11:09:40 PM

The issue, as I understand it, has to do with the way transgendered individuals are treated... it has been dangerous, particularly for these individuals, particularly in men's rooms.

It's great to see that no one in here supports the need for a separate rest room... because that could only mean that no one here would ever hassle anyone else in this situation... right?


I don't support transgendered restrooms per se, but I think something needs to be done. I don't "pass" as a woman. Not even close. I can't start hormones yet and as close as I shave I still can't eliminate stubble. I go out in jeans and a shirt and I look like a man wearing makeup with painted nails. I go out in a dress and I look like a man in a dress, and no amount of makeup and padding will keep me from getting spotted.

When I'm out and about my options are limited. Unisex restrooms are rare here, single occupancy restrooms are even more rare, I could be arrested for going into the ladies room (other than one particular store, but it's owned and run by a trans-man), and I could be beaten for going into a men's room.

We are an incredibly small minority so fiscally having a dedicated restroom wouldn't make sense. While I support single occupancy unisex restrooms, multiple occupancy unisex is dangerous, as is letting the way a person's dressed determine which restroom they can use. When I get to use the ladies room I do it for the same reason my nieces or sister-in-laws do. If we let it boil down to the way people are dressed a predator could throw on a skirt and put on some makeup and take advantage.

So while transgendered restrooms aren't practical, there needs to be something done for those who can't safely use one room, legally use another room, and don't want to inconvenience those who need the "family restrooms" or handicap accessible restrooms.
Show ALL Forums  > Current Events  >