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Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 28
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The environments of homo-extraterrestrial will be large spheres, with living spaces 3 dimensionally oriented, since there is no need for floors. They will breed 0-G plants and animals and collect energy directly from the sun. It would be similar to the kind of life monkeys live in the treetops of a rain forest except with no place to fall.
They might develop games like 3-D baseball or football.
Their bodies would be very fragile compared to ours but they wouldn't need it as long as they stayed in their 0-G environments.
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 34
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Posted: 4/8/2007 9:47:38 AM
I don't believe in the apocalypse or the " rapture ".
But, I do think there are a lot of people who want to believe in these things enough to actually work to bring them about.
There are people who would welcome WWIII, just so they can see Jesus come back.
The philosophies of Creationism or Intelligent Design are actually the height of arrogance, in that their basic premise is that " If I can't figure out how it works then nobody can figure it out and nobody ever will, it must be divine ".
It takes a certain humility to recognize we are probably a few steps lower than the right hand of God.
Human history still has several thousand years to go before we naturally biologically morph into something else which we can't even imagine as we are today.
Joined: 12/27/2005
Msg: 36
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Posted: 4/9/2007 1:03:49 AM
Now you have hit upon a truly important point, quietjohn.

Only we humans have the ability to influence our own evolution, through foresight and choice. All other animals on Earth are bound by the whims of their environment. By exercising choice, we can at least point ourselves in any direction we want to go.

This works not only on the grand scale as a species, but on the personal scale as individuals too.
 zombies are chasing me
Joined: 4/5/2007
Msg: 42
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Posted: 4/10/2007 2:19:43 AM
^ I believe the dark ages are historically attributed to the fall of the roman empire. the burning of the library of Alexandria was truly unfortunate though. had those 2 events not transpired it wouldn't surprise me if we had colonized the moon and mars by now.

As for the question in the first post:

well if we don't plunge into another dark age.. or become extinct by some kind of catastrophe my prediction of the state of the human race in or around a to a few hundred years time is this:

humans will live on earth, mars, luna (the moon), and possibly on some of Jupiter and saturns moons, (though not in any significant civilization compared to earth for a few thousand years (or less)) genetic illnesses, most pathogens, most injuries and age will be able to be halted and/or corrected. limbs will be able to be regrown by your own body by altering our genetics (like starfish and salamanders) bionic implants will be available to augment our senses and functions touch, sight, smell, vision, hearing and even thought. however unfortunately i doubt everyone will get one cause of corporations and future logistics (at least during the first generation or 2 of people that have these devices available to them) new parents will be able to give their offspring genetic advantages such as increased lung capacity, bigger brains, stronger hearts, more symmetrical looks, stronger bones, more resilient immune systems, etc..

with our technology and depth of understanding we have a rare and delicate opportunity. The future of human evolution is already and will be of our own choosing.
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Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 46
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Posted: 4/10/2007 11:07:40 AM
Isnt evolution different than scientific progression?
I mean to say that if we develop better technologies as we gain more understanding of science through research and education, that in itself has nothing to do with our cells "evolving" to making us a higher form of life that we were before. people in the middle ages, could, in time, be taught and trained to do anything we are capable of doing right now, in 2007. (if we could travel back and teach them that is)

So far what im seeing in this thread is mostly our advancement through our creations, but what about our biological growth? Has that really changed? i would like to know.
Do you mean the evolution of science or human beings?
 Audial Liaison
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 47
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Posted: 4/10/2007 11:16:07 AM

It really is a funny point of view that our medical science, and technological advancements make me believe that we are devolving as a species, as our living becomes easier. Yet it is my view. Should another Black plague - whichever new bug it will be - wrack the Earth, my firm belief is that the less advanced societies of our planet will adapt easier than civilized societies. Not many on our great continent of North America view death as a natural, and cleansing, part of life.

yeah i think here in America it would be pretty gruesome,..some of the nicest people would turn into animals grasping at anything they can while throwing away all morales they "once claimed" to have to prolong their life just a tad longer, such a foolish attempt of self preservation.

In one perspective it would be nice to die before a time like that, witnessing it might be something you would'nt want to live with...or deal with at the moment huh lol
Joined: 2/8/2007
Msg: 49
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Posted: 4/10/2007 4:41:31 PM
Someone out there has forgotten that evolution takes time, and we, humans that is have remained pretty static for over 100K and could be considerably more. Unless you believe that is, his/her/it Omnipotence will save us all maybe 9 billion of us in 20 years????......The CLIMATE is changing more rapidly than expected, no ice over north pole in summer in 20 years maybe less. Plants and insects will have to evolve to new environments pretty quick, or we will in the rich countries watch 100's of millions starve within the 20 year time frame. Don't Panic! Humans will allow their technology to evolve and save us all.......????....In your dreams guys! Wake up, smell the air, changed a bit since you were kids or are we all seeing the KINGS new clothes???? We will evolve into chaos, bigger brains, smashed brains, more resources....for some...for a time... The USA is not going to the moon but ARID... Sometimes I wonder if if it is all a dream, or is it everyone is asleep in their own delusion????
 zombies are chasing me
Joined: 4/5/2007
Msg: 67
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Posted: 4/17/2007 2:33:34 AM

A few years ago in anthropology, the professor was discussing the size of the nostrils on apes and the possible enviromental evolutionary implications. He listed various factors as to the cause of this.
He also mentioned that Apes have very big fingers as well. :-)

Sometimes it is the obvious/unobvious things we tend to miss.

^lol! nose pickers nice!!
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 80
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Posted: 4/26/2007 1:31:55 PM
I think humanity is reaching its cap on evolution. At this point all that is left is further technological and society/cultural evolutions.

Evolution is fueled by natural selection which is a combination of Group AND Individual selection. But in terms of group selection, we've gotten so good that we've changed the rules.

We used to have Child Under 5 Mortality rates of like 60-70% (way, way back). But just from basic hygene (like washing hands with soap and hot water) that dropped to like 28%. In developed countries, CU5M is under 0.8%. This is the main reason contraception is important. I had a huge (2 pages in MS word) post about solutions to stop/reverse population, but that isn't the topic of this thread (parts of it were funny, like wiping out male humans).

As to the smart breeding with the smart. Autism is starting to be believed to be the result of over concentrating "smart genes" (which have yet to be identified).

I think once we figure out how to create/target proteins we will be able to engineer life without messing with DNA. DNA is just the instructions for creating proteins that do stuff in the body. So creating proteins lets us do stuff (such as promote muscle growth which would help fight obsesity and cure muscular dystraphy--probably spelled that wrong). Being able to target/destroy proteins would allow us to STOP certain things (like cancer). Destroy the protein that causes cells to become cancerous. Proteins might also be able to do things like stimulate rapid regeneration or grow replacement body parts (almost no chance of rejection if the new kidney you get comes from you!).
Joined: 4/26/2007
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Posted: 5/3/2007 8:34:04 PM
I think the advance in science and technology is just one aspect in the evolution of modern human life.In the past one hundred year,we have adapted to the dramatic change in technology yet changed little in ourselves.Is there still great space left to evolute to a more intelligent species or it's limited by our physiologic structure?
Joined: 12/18/2006
Msg: 90
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Posted: 5/3/2007 9:15:45 PM
Evolution is too slow and gradual a process for us to describe it as taking 'steps'. We have not faced any evolutionary pressures in such a long time we cannot find any direction to it. If the likely crash of our population happens and there are human survivors we will then see (over many thousands of years) what direction our evolution is headed in.
Joined: 8/16/2006
Msg: 95
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Posted: 9/22/2007 9:37:36 AM
There's a distinct difference between what my pessimistic and optimistic side sees for our evolution.

From a pessimistic point of view, I see too much hate. The evolution of man involves the evolution of killing machines and biological weapons. Hate will spread through religious beliefs and cultures. Blood will flow in the millions. Poor countries will become poorer and rich countries will become richer. Foods won't be real. They will be genetically altered beyond recongnition. Our climates will change drastically with the change in our oceans currents. Horrible storms will reap havoc. Countries will continue to exploit and drill the earth for what little natural resources we'll have left.

From an optimist standpoint, I see the evolution of thought, the sixth sense and communication. More humans will follow and individulistic spiritual path instead of organized religions. There will be huge advancement in sustainable energy and development. World wide health services and food distribution will be easier because humans will care more about the greater good than huge profits and exploiting the weak. We will see what's good for one is good for all. Advancements in bio-electronics and stem-cell generation will be used for advancement in health across the globe. Human rights will be a world wide standard. A gov't of Earth might exist to stabilize inequalities and mediate disputes. As I read over this part, it sounds a bit commy, but I beleive, optimistically, there must be a happy medium between capitalism and communism which we as a race can acheive.
Joined: 1/21/2007
Msg: 99
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Posted: 9/24/2007 7:58:56 PM
As a species, we are getting taller. Skin will be lightening up, and may well have a yellowish hue. Eyesight has become less important, no need for it to be as sharp as our ancestors was. The female eyes are moving closer together, rather than being separated further on the need for them to have to watch a wider area, while males eyes are moving out a bit, because visual acurity is not as needed.
Noses and sinus passages seem to be getting larger...we need to have larger air passages and expanded lung capacity to provide more oxygem to larger bodies. Bones are becoming less robust due to the fact that we don't need such skeletal protecting, and muscular definition is slimming itself. We are heading more upright and thinner..placing sensory organs higher.
We deliberatly keep our genetic "errors" within the genepool now, rathe than allow nature to take its course and weed out genetic defects. As mentioned. the c-section allows children with larger heads to be born, genetic diseases that killed many young is now controllable...example, diabetes...there are many others.
Perhaps because we travel so extensivly we will never really adapt to any one place on the planet, but be able to survive easily within many places, as we do now. This could be a good thing if we ever get out to space. We may need these advantages just to expand out there.

We can manipualte the genes the future perhaps we can take it to the point where we can ofrm babies with, say, long flexible fingers for musicians or surgeons. High density muscular structures and shortness inbred into miners, basically, designer people, but the gov't would be deciding how many of what kind they'd need for future employment.

It could well go a lot of ways.
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 100
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Posted: 9/28/2007 1:30:52 AM
As was mentioned in earlier posts, stupid people are out-f*cking smart people at a staggering rate. Every day we do nothing, the world gets dumber.

So we have to nip this thing in the bud.... We need to make a stand to make sure that human evolution goes forward, not back!

That's right girls, go out there and f*ck a genius today!
If you agree with me and live in Winnipeg, email me for specifics.
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 103
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Posted: 9/28/2007 1:31:47 PM
I've been of the mindset for quite some time now that the human genome is due for a split.
Due for a split? That split is already occuring. I don't think it is a function of religion per se... (although I've seen research linking religion and IQ, and it was pretty freaking scary) I believe excessive religion to be more of a symptom rather than a cause...

Intelligence is not a function of purely genetics or environment, it is a product of both.
However, in an strictly practical sense, people with higher intelligence tend to make more money.
Those that make more money can afford better education for their children.
The increasing cost of a quality education is far outpacing that of inflation and wage increases.
Education for those that can't afford it is getting steadily worse. (See "No child left behind")
Meaning the poor increasingly cannot afford to place their children in an intelligence-fostering environment... and the well-to-do can.
So the vicious spirals contintue... the dumb tend to get dumber, and the smart get smarter.

(Before y'all leap on me and say "I'm real smart, but I came from a poor family!" or "What about Paris Hilton? She's dumb as a post!", I want to point out I'm speaking in an evolutionary context. Evolution doesn't work in absolutes... it works in odds and percentages.)

After all, I'm real smart, but I came from a poor family.
And Paris Hilton is dumb as a post.
Joined: 1/16/2008
Msg: 106
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Posted: 5/27/2009 9:53:36 AM
Why is there the assumption that evolution is a stepped process? If paleontology has taught scientists anything, it's an ongoing process that is occasionally punctuated by unforeseen circumstances, such as impacts. We adapt or go extinct.
Joined: 4/4/2009
Msg: 108
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Posted: 5/28/2009 6:09:44 PM
there is no such thing a de-evolution when it comes to natural processes.
Joined: 12/31/2008
Msg: 110
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Posted: 6/1/2009 11:58:24 PM
under pressure, we should be evolving continually.

so do we evolve enmasse? how the hell does that work?

shouldn't some obvious human forms have been branching off by now?

still very human, but also different? sorry monkeys wont do! I know you wanted to say ''monkey''!
Joined: 5/23/2008
Msg: 111
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Posted: 6/2/2009 12:08:59 AM
Evolution doesn't have steps.
Joined: 3/2/2009
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Posted: 7/4/2009 4:39:52 AM
The next step in human evolution is precicely why I find Republicans and conservatives who rail against research to be hilarious.

In explanation it is simply this: We have through our lifestyles and technology essentially halted human evolution.

Our immune systems are probably the only part of us left that is even remotely succeptable to the selective pressures that drive the process of evolution. For everything else we have developed technological crutches that allow anyone and everyone to do just fine and pass on their genetic material no matter what they come into the world with.

We even let stupid people like Rush Limbaugh breed, so even our brains are no longer truely being selected for.

Therefore the next step in human evolution will be one entirely dependent on technology. In particular the technology of genetic engineering. We have hijacked our own evolution and therefore, where we go from here is entirely up to us.
Joined: 7/8/2004
Msg: 113
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Posted: 7/4/2009 8:00:20 AM
@ Brightspark

Once everybody is in agreement, I reckon its kindness.

You got in ahead of me. (That's OK. I guess you're just quicker on the draw than I am.)
I was just about to post that the next step in human evolution will be a moral one...the ascent of compassion.
Joined: 7/8/2004
Msg: 114
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Posted: 7/4/2009 8:17:49 AM
As a sovereign in the world and an arrogant man, I accept your compliment. I also suggest to you that you are quite intelligent in your own right and need not be humble about it.

Well, I guess that's enough, or people are going to start thinking we have a mutual admiration society. Time for a beer!
Joined: 7/8/2004
Msg: 116
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Posted: 7/5/2009 2:16:45 PM

I think one day we will see cell phones, GPS and other "special chips" implanted directly into our bodies. Who knows where that will lead.

I suggest you watch "The President's Analyst." It was a funny movie made in the 60's that might give you an idea about who might really be running things and their nefarious plans for our future. (No it wasn't the phone company, but for 1969, that was a pretty good guess)
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Posted: 7/5/2009 2:42:45 PM
Ooli oop, you have the common misconception that evolution happens to large populations. Most evolution happens in small, isolated populations. Also, you only list technical changes. These are not biological evolution.

What would affect biological evolution is 1) climate change or 2) having humans fragmented into different environments, either by economics or geography. The small populations would face different environments and thus would be subject to different natural selection pressures. The result would be the splitting of H. sapiens into 2 or more new species of Homo. This is already happening among Andean and Himalayan highlanders and the !Kung. The opposing force is gene flow between populations. As long as there is 1) intermarriage between economic classes and/or 2) good transportation, gene flow will stop speciation.
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