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 Ravenstar66
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The double helix is very cool

Maybe the whole galaxy is really a cellular life form.. and we are within it (?) It's a thought.

The "storm" on Saturn is also very cool. The hexagon is interesting because on earth you usually only get geometric shapes from elements in solid form, not gaseous.. this is a basic structure of crystals.. the hexagon. I have no idea what could cause gases to act like that...unless they are becoming frozen.. ONE HUGE METHANE SNOWFLAKE maybe? Does it rotate or move at all? The larger planets have very fast rotations and high winds...you'd think that any material we could see would be cloud cover.. moving rapidly because of the rotation of the planet (like Jupiter's atmosphere)

A new estimate of how fast Saturn spins has been made using magnetic data from NASA’s Cassini spacecraft – but it is not the answer scientists were expecting.

As a gas giant, Saturn’s rotation has been historically difficult to measure. Its hazy atmospheric features shift with respect to each other and cannot be used to clock the spin rate of the planet’s interior.

The most commonly cited figure for Saturn’s rotation period – 10 hours, 39 minutes and 22.4 seconds – was derived in 1980 from Voyager observations of radio waves generated by solar radiation hitting the planet’s atmosphere. Yet Cassini has returned a result almost 8 minutes longer, a difference that defies easy explanation.

"The knowledge of the rotation period is a very important ingredient when you try to model the interior of a planet like Saturn," says Giacomo Giampieri of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Reconcilable differences?

Giampieri and colleagues examined data gathered over a 14-month period from Cassini’s fluxgate magnetometer. The data revealed a small periodic signal in Saturn’s magnetic field measuring 10 hours, 47 minutes.

If the signal is indeed tied to the rotation of the planet’s solid core, as the Cassini team proposes, it is not clear how this can be reconciled with the earlier Voyager measurement.

"Nobody in their right mind could think the rotation rate of Saturn has changed so much in that period," says Donald Gurnett, principal investigator for the Cassini Radio and Plasma Wave Science instrument at the University of Iowa, US. Such a dramatic change in a planet of Saturn’s size would require enormous energy. If such a force was being exerted, it would have long ago slowed the planet's rotation rate down to a snail’s pace.

One possible explanation is that the electrically charged ionosphere surrounding Saturn is "slipping" relative to the planet's rotation. This ionosphere influences the shape of the magnetic field, so a change in the friction between the ionosphere and upper atmosphere, due perhaps to seasonal variations in solar illumination, might account for the difference between the Voyager and Cassini data.
Wobble free

"It is absolutely not an instrumental error," says Gurnett, who was also principal investigator for the radio-sensing instrument on Voyager.

Previously scientists have used Jupiter's magnetic field to determine its rotation rate without ambiguity. Like Saturn, Jupiter's magnetic field is generated deep in the planet's interior and loops far out into space. But because Jupiter's field is tilted slightly, it wobbles as the planet rotates.

The wobble creates a strong periodic signal in Jupiter’s magnetic field which is a reliable indicator of the planet’s rotation speed. In contrast, Saturn’s magnetic field is aligned with its rotational axis so there is no wobble effect.

The periodicity measured by Cassini is more likely to be caused by some kind of magnetic anomaly within Saturn, possibly tied to the nature of the planet’s solid core.
HOLY COW..10 hours, 39 minutes and 22.4 seconds!!! Considering that Saturn is the second largest planet in our system.. that's like a dynamo... wow, that's unbelievably fast... it's magnetosphere must be incredible.. with all that motion.

The other side is the largest hurricane I have ever seen... is it new, or just a feature of Saturn we didn't notice before?

Is it a message?...umm.. that's a pretty egocentric position. Does it mean something? Maybe.... but I highly doubt that it is meant for US. It just is...and as we learn more about the universe we will be able to understand it better.

I am one who believes that the entire universe has a consciousness of some sort, but I find it incredulous to think it is mainly for our benefit. We are only just beginning to be able to observe the cosmos in any detailed way.. and the magnificence is amazing, but we haven't really got much of a clue how it works yet.

Cool stuff
 chamelion2
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Posted: 4/5/2008 8:04:38 PM
Cool stuff !

Touch . . . I am happy 2 see yor mind is still percolating on these mysteries . . .
What does it all mean?! I am not an ancient Mayan, that I know of, so cannot know what they were aiming at.

Hm, however, a rise in consciousness I would welcome . . . way past the time for that !
Someone, I don't remember who, once said to me, whilst I was pondering astrology & my chart, that It would come out that Saturn, not Venus, would be the Planet that signifies Love. That is still a puzzle to me.

One way or the other, I do believe that the Planets exert a magnetic pull on each & everyone of us. From an astrological point of view, then, it would be interesting to see if the Houses/Issues that Saturn is involved in, in individual charts, is in an uproar or changing state also.

Things that make me go . . . hmmm . . .
 Greg8002
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Posted: 4/5/2008 11:55:30 PM
I don't really see it as meaningful to speak of astronomical objects such as stars or electromagnetic waves as being 'alive'; this to me seems like trying to make the universe animistic. There is nothing in science to suggest electromagnetic waves or stars exhibit any characteristics would make them biological entities.
 romanticoptimist
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Posted: 4/6/2008 2:04:04 PM

The double helix is very cool

I thought so too. But I realise that we humans tend to see familiar things in unfamiliar things as a way to grasp what we're seeing, sort of like seeing shapes in clouds . I am reminded of the "Horse Head" galaxy of a few years ago, and the "Face on Mars" already mentioned.

Now the Hexagonal shape, being so symmetrical and non-typical does intrigue me. No-one seems to be able to explain it, and no-one seems to be able to relate it to any known natural phenomena. It just doesn't make any sense for a cloud of anything in an orbit to form into such a definable shape as a hexagon. So, this one intrigues me the most, mostly because of it's inexplicable nature and apparent uniqueness.
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Posted: 2/10/2011 1:06:25 PM
Someone who is so sure of the Body of God, sure has a good way of showing lack of consideration for the seekers of wisdom. The truth is, if you know God, you would be slow to insult. Now not to insult anyone here, I would like to say that he is more aware of something that most people are quick to ignore. The Universe is alive. The Sun's cyclic nature was proof to the Maya that the entire universe was based upon the same principles. And modern science which always proves Gods existence will show you that. If you know how to find it. I assure, not everyone has this gift. But it can be learned.
If you know a thing or two about the hidden history of our world, Which is not available to the simple minds, but only introduced to the seekers of wisdom by those who keep up with the evolutionary process of human development, The Maya clearly explains that they did not create this concept up themselves but rather it was given to them from a higher being that in familiar terms, Came down from above, and after the injection of massive amounts of know-how, on politics, economy, moral, culture, spirituality, social engineering, and other useful tools that most civilizations use and, of course, shared these concepts returned from where they came from. I am a believer in Christ. But that doesn't make me ignorant to the fact that that's how his presents was explained in that particular part of the world so we can understand it today. If you know Christ like I do, you know that he was here, before all the world was created. The Maya Popul-Vuh clearly explains he visited that part of the world too. I am proud to say that I am 120% Mayan blood. But before that, In a way for you to grasp my understanding of creationism, I am also Christian. And my belief that our world was created by a God, whom sent down his only Son who was there before we had days and nights, and after he gave his gifts of life and guidance left only to return, does not conflict my ancestors recognition of The Lord of Lords, King, of Kings. So before you go on passing judgment on those who seek, SEEK, a true understanding of
what is going on in the universe...Follow your heart and accept the fact that in all ancient cultures they explain that nobody knows the day of his return. But he did promise to return. And till that day, let us open our mind and hearts and put them both to use, shall we? you can find facts about anything I explained in plain sight in museums and in the signs that this man is clearly becoming aware of. Discover more if you can challenge yourself to do what the Bible tells you to do. It wasn't first called The Way for no reason.
 arwen52
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Posted: 2/16/2011 8:20:04 AM

now this is eerie considering that the maya, who had no telescopes, thought the center of our own galaxy to be intelligent and conscious and worshiped it for these reasons, and now there are seemingly intelligent radio waves recorded coming from it. also apparently the maya knew about it's black hole, and white disk that surrounds the hole , and have illustrated it as their Hanab Ku. its astounding they had this knowledge of the details of the center of our galaxy without the use of telescopes.


The Mayans also believed that the earth was flat, square, and was held up by five pillars of different colors, resting on the back of a crocodile that was standing in a lily pond. If they got that wrong, why do you believe that they got the other stuff right?

You want to understand what's going on in the universe? Start listening to and reading Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Start studying astrophysics. It will keep you busy for the rest of your life. The truth is a lot more interesting and amazing than a lot of ridiculous notions made up by people who are scientifically illiterate.
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