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Joined: 10/27/2007
Msg: 57
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Or we have become more and more suspicious of people, these days it seems like we wonder "whta the hell" if someone is trying to show us interest or affection, so yeah, it is like we are starting to feel scared to be nice, it's a weird feeling, feeling vulnerable, but it's a wonderful feeling if you are with someon you do actually love and trust.

Joined: 1/18/2007
Msg: 58
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Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 6:26:24 AM
Look, I am sure tons of people think they are nice. I've dated girls who were nice who drove me crazy. Nice is not enough in my book. If I were a girl, a guy being nice isn't enough. As a guy, a girl just being nice won't cut it with me. She should be interesing somehow, warm, kind, passionate, intelligent, consistent, and rather stable and at least plain looking. If she fits all that, then I would sure date her, but finding all that is a tough call...Some of these nice girls and nice guys act like the people who go to church and believe God should bless them for following rituals. It doesn't work that way. This entitlement mentality and why is this happening to me attitude is pointless... I've been there, done that... Yeah, I am a very nice guy, but I don't think it entitles me to something. How I present myself, believe in myself, what I do with myself would entitle and nothing else...
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 59
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:12:19 AM
Why don't the nice guys go for the nice girls, and vice versa? But no! Everyone feels entitled to a hottie, and therin lies the conundrum. The thread implies that hotness equals skank, and nice equals homely. Not always so. And Mr. Dynomite-just stay on the ground with the easy smelly wormy apples, waiting for the beauties to fall on your head, cuz after all, the angry sarcastic ones deserve the very best. What? It's too long to wait for one to fall? And what about the ones in the middle of the tree? The ones you actually have to make an effort to reach up & get. No mention of them atall.
I thought guys liked the challenge of climbing.
Joined: 7/6/2007
Msg: 60
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:47:02 AM!! and to think i was starting to loose all hopes. big kudos to sweetchristina...thank you. I observe, no matter what i do or where i go...its the nice girls are the last pickings of the crop, see it everyday.

@neill...nicely said.
Joined: 10/12/2007
Msg: 61
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:59:52 AM
I dont think all woman are like that ... and as far as the top or in a tree it just means that we dont lower ...
come on don't you think I am a nice girl?
If I was a man, I'd date me....
there are good woman out there.... and there are good men....
Just have to do a little gardnening and "weed out the weeds"
 mr. dynomite
Joined: 9/11/2007
Msg: 62
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 9:00:56 AM

^^^^^^^^^Lmao, can girls borrow it too. I think it's much better than the original version

Yup. Do it up.

Make the ajustments to cater to your needs. Thats what it's there for.

Oh, and no offence to the original tree girl. We men do like 'nice girls'... as long as we still get to be a little bit sarcastic sometimes.

Joined: 7/20/2007
Msg: 63
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 7:19:52 PM
ah, a Real Man would just Chop zee tree DOWN

k, im jist bein gitchy-NM

Truthfully, i rather liked the idea/suggestion of 'Meeting in zee Middle'
of the tree

But? we All ~Know~ that Every 'tree' has Many branches
Sooo, Do People-and? There are So Many (many many MANy) 'things' that we 'look for' in others (in assessing 'potential relations')

sure, 'nice' is one-But, it's kinda a 'Given' (isn't it?)
i mean, most dont want to be partnered with a complete 'a s s'
(rude to 'waitstaff'/other drivers/customers/ETC)
But DANG-aside from ^those^ 'indicators'...finding out if SomeOne is Reeeeeeeeeeally
'Nice' , could take a looooong Time
Joined: 10/12/2007
Msg: 64
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 10:28:19 PM
Youre okay.. No offense taken.....We also have attitude some days....
Joined: 5/7/2007
Msg: 65
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 10:54:31 PM
I'm preveived as a 'nice girl' but if it were up me
I'd straight up tell it how it is... I'm struggling to be a good person

Aren't we all?

As for the tree, analogy... I half agree w/ Mr. Dynomite there.
Nice girls shouldn't wait until the right person comes to them...
Meet them half way and help a person out.
Even if it does not work out, I guess you become a damaged apple/woman.
But if you're scarred then you have a strory. And a mistake to learn from
Does Mr. Dynomite want a INNOCENT woman... also waiting to be saved?

I'm not waiting...I take control, I'm ambitious, and when I have needs,
I get the piece of ass I want and I wash my hands of it! I guess, I am a 'bad girl'
But no one could tell! haha
Joined: 5/31/2007
Msg: 66
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/21/2007 11:27:23 PM
"YAY! i knew there was a toast for the girls"
I am a woman not a girl. Being a woman sometimes I dress respectfully and sometimes provocatively. Sometimes I behave very respectfully and sometimes I misbehave on purpose. Sometimes I go to church and sometimes I go to a bar. I am a Mother but I am also a woman. I don't consider myself a malicious female because I show cleavage or flirt with Men,,,,,,,,,as a Woman I also have my own values and mind. I make my own way and I don't answer to anyone including other women that have to much time trying to figure out " How those kind of women get those Men" and because they are unhappy they focus on just how awful other women are....and the awful things they do to get Men but if they are girls then they are looking for boys not Men.
I raised my Daughter to be true to her self. To be strong. To go after what she wants. And to get and education. If she wants to wear her skirt short or a low cut top fine with me....because she is also a woman and a very strong woman. Since I am a strong woman I raised a Daughter that is now a strong woman.........
Being a Girl is different from being a woman........Being a Woman I don't call other women names, I could care less how they dress. At my age or actually at a young age I was taught to support women. Regards Blue
Joined: 11/14/2007
Msg: 67
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/22/2007 1:41:46 AM
Not quite Cider
er Cherrry.

are like apples
the best looking ones
are at the very top of the tree
Men dont want to climb because of the risk
of being hurt. The rotten ones are on the ground under the
tree. Available but rotten to the core. But in the middle branches
is the real fruit. Doesn't look as good as the top branches but
the taste is still sweet. And still available.
It doesn't
matter how
good the top
branch fruit
is if its out
of reach.
It simply
isn't worth
the risk.
Joined: 5/31/2007
Msg: 68
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/22/2007 1:38:01 PM
Main Entry: girl
Pronunciation: \ˈgər(-ə)l\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English gurle, girle young person of either sex
Date: 14th century
1 a: a female child from birth to adulthood b: daughter c: a young unmarried woman sometimes offensive : a single or married woman of any age
I think this about sums up the word girl..
I am a human being with different feelings...I have character flaws and moments of insanity. I can be strong in a moments notice. I can do good and decent things for neighbors and friends. I think Men are the same way. There is good and bad in everyone of us. I can see so much hurt. Girl's hurt because they feel that they can't compete with Women, Men because Women and Girl's have hurt them. It seems everyone is carrying life's hurts. Some worse than others. Call it life experiences. No two people are the same. But I am perplexed that so many people are afraid? Why can't you just call it and experience and next time be wiser? Why miss out on all the wonderful things in life? Hurts are hurts. Some people take those hurts and make ice cream out of them. Some wear them and everyone can see it feel it and taste it. And they know they can't get past them so why bother trying? And then you wonder why people don't want you. Hate, bitterness and grudges can stop you from being everything. It will stop you from meeting all those wonderful people in the world. It makes others stand back and move is just being plain scared. Not everyone will live up to our standards. Some will hurt you. Some will love you. This is life people there are disappoints ahead,,,,,,,,,but many more wonderful things if you just get past the hurts and open yourself up...........................Wish everyone luck
Smiles Blue
 mr. dynomite
Joined: 9/11/2007
Msg: 69
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/22/2007 2:55:48 PM

As for the tree, analogy... I half agree w/ Mr. Dynomite there.
Nice girls shouldn't wait until the right person comes to them...
Meet them half way and help a person out.
Even if it does not work out, I guess you become a damaged apple/woman.
But if you're scarred then you have a strory. And a mistake to learn from
Does Mr. Dynomite want a INNOCENT woman... also waiting to be saved?


Tried it... didn't like it....

Now I'm in the bushes eating berries. You don't have to climb very high for those... plus they are sweeter than apples.

Joined: 10/12/2007
Msg: 70
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/25/2007 9:48:48 AM
Okay okay enough picking my apples ....tee hee
Joined: 7/18/2006
Msg: 71
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 1/8/2008 6:29:42 PM
It goes the same way for men. Why do the women we want,want guys that are loosers? Well I'll tell you what I think, women who want loosers are loosers them self's. They get with men who arn't good looking or don't have a job and or both and give them babys/with no support. They always go back to them. Weird?
I'll tell you what,Women are the most wonderful creation God ever made. Man can'not surive with out them. Its time for women to start picking the good men and stay away from the (bad boys ). GET A COUNTRY BOY. We were tought resecpt.
Joined: 6/13/2010
Msg: 72
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 7/17/2010 9:11:53 PM
This is a tribute to the nice girls. These are the girls who are safe. The girls whom guys who have girlfriends are allowed to hang out with because they’re not viewed as a threat. These are the girls who dress respectably . . . they don’t go and get “skank clothes” and parade themselves around, catching the attention of every drooling, testosterone-filled boy on earth. These are the girls who are okay with going to chick-fil-a on a date, hanging out, watching a movie, playing a game, or doing some other low-cost, high-fun form of entertainment. Because after all, it’s really about the quality time that they spend with the guy and not the amount of money that is flowing from his pockets in order to please her every whim and desire (or so he thinks) during the date.

This is in honor of the girls who take the time to ask their guy friends “how’s life?” and to listen carefully when the answer is given. The girls who go out of their way to make cookies or cheer up male friends in distress. Yeah, we know “men are from Mars” and “women are from Venus,” but a simple “thank you” is pretty darn universal.

This goes out to the girls who must sit complacently while their guy friends discuss the “hotness” of the girl at the next table over. They watch as these guys date or lust over each and every self-centered, trashy, insecure, flirtatious, and flighty girl they come into contact with.

When asked, most guys say they would like to date a nice girl. However, when faced with such an opportunity, they claim that “I love her . . .like a little sister” or “there are no such things as nice girls. They’re all evil.” These guys continue to complain about how all girls are “manipulative” and “gossipy” and wonder why in the world they all go to the bathroom at the same time.

But, we must confess, there are guys out there who realize the value of their nice friends who are girls. These are the guys who should be praised for their willingness to go with the flow, hang out, and chill. These guys, however, fail to consider these nice girls as anything more than friends or to step up to the plate and consider them for a Saturday night date or the upcoming dance even though they possess all the qualities that guys claim they are looking for. But, a note to the nice girls. Eventually all guys will (or at least should) realize that they don’t want to have a relationship with a girl who wants all of their money and who will only date them until a guy who is better or more enhancing for her social status comes along. So, until those guys realize what is right in front of them, a word of encouragement to the nice girls. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of being treated like a doormat. In all honesty, you are valuable. Clearly, you possess qualities that cause your guy friends to want to hang out with you. The world needs your encouragement, your willingness to take part in spontaneous activities, your ability to continue to enjoy life even though you watch as countless nasty, malicious female sirens blind the nice guys with their alluring ways. For all of the random, frustrating, and seemingly non-sensical things you tolerate, don’t lose hope. Nice guys do exist and will someday realize that nice girls, who are not evil, exist as well.

Fear not, your day will come. And perhaps your prince will too.

Hmm, there's a familiar ring to all this. So that's what the "nice" guys are chasing after.
The constant moaning and complaining in the other threads raised my curiosity. Little wonder, now I know! Guys and girls are as bad as each other.
Joined: 5/10/2009
Msg: 73
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 7/18/2010 12:17:59 AM
Down with nice girls. If we don't have at least 1 argument a day + a near constant negative energy wave of oppressive impending doom I want nothing to do with them. Too damn 'nice' and easygoing. Get out of here with that. No man wants that. How will you stand up to my impulsive demands? That's what I thought.
Joined: 5/18/2010
Msg: 74
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 7/18/2010 4:35:04 AM
I'm naught but nice...there's even a porn shop named after me. If you have men friends, it's not because you're nice, it just means men don't want to sleep with you. I never had to hold my guys friends hands whilst they're lusting over some skank. Most of the time I am that "skank". I don't have to dress slutty, I don't have to be ****y, I don't have to put others down, I'm just me and men notice me because I am NICE...So instead of sitting there in the corner being a wall flower and proclaiming to be "nice". Get on the dance floor, have fun and be the person everyone wants to be with. It's not that hard.
Bugger, I have no idea what this thread is about...lost me at Skank.
Joined: 12/21/2009
Msg: 75
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 7/18/2010 9:05:45 AM
It's hard not to appreciate nice people but in reality most men have been around nice girls only to see that girl fall for someone else. Someone that hasn't taken time to endure this nice relationship thing. I'm not saying nice girls don't exist or that it's any less important that they try to have such fine qualities, but to try to convince a guy that you are just born that way is a little delusional and gives me stage fright.
Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 76
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Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/22/2010 7:56:56 PM
this is an interesting thread, as I have often been accused of being too "nice" to people, boyfriends, etc. It is easy to get tired of doing it, but I feel it's more me than being someone I'm not, or would have a hard time holding up the illusion of. And besides, the person has to like me for me so no point putting on a mask! Nice people rule!

 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
Msg: 77
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/23/2010 6:05:50 AM
Guess I'm the only one who isn't all excited about having NICE on my urn when
I'm dust HUH??

I want..
Woozie wasn't she a doozie at times?

NICE..pleasing, agreeable,
amiably pleasant. OK..Not a bad trait are most well trained wait staff.
Joined: 2/1/2009
Msg: 78
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/23/2010 7:39:13 AM
this is an interesting thread, as I have often been accused of being too "nice" to people, boyfriends, etc.

Ha! I've been accused of being too "mean". I was once a "nice" girl---a doormat. Never again. I now walk a fine line between being assertive and being a byotch. Having been on both sides of the "niceness fence" I have to say in all honesty that being on the meaner side is far better. Fewer people take advantage of me. I no longer take crap from people---if they dish it out, I give it right back to them.

Oh, they'll sometimes put up a facade of bravado (Bring it on, byotch!), but later on whine about how mean I am, and that I hit them below the belt and don't fight fairly---all the while never acknowledging their part in instigating and perpetuating the drama. When it finally dawns on them that I'm not going to back down, they'll eventually retreat.

What's to be gained by being a byotch? I'd say there's a certain level of satisfaction and self-respect one can acquire from standing up for one's convictions---and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Joined: 9/3/2010
Msg: 79
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 11/23/2010 1:00:02 PM

hank god for every girl that reads kahlil gibran, and not vogue.
thank god for every girl that knows the difference between quite, and quiet.
thank god for every girl that doesn't mix up Tori Amos, with Tori Spelling.
thank god for every girl that dreams, and doesn't get thier dreams from tv.
thank god for every girl that understand pointlism and depth of field.
thank god for every girl that listens to anni difranco, and led zepplin, cause its good music.
thank god for every girl that can unclog a J-pipe, with the need for a plumber.
thank god for every girl that believes she can do anything herself.
thank god for every girl that, tries to be something more.

Basically thank god for any girl which for whatever reason has the same taste as you in books and music. Nothing to do with a nice girl . And pointillism? what's that got to do with anything?
Joined: 7/20/2005
Msg: 80
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Posted: 11/26/2010 3:24:00 AM
Actually, as a nice girl, I haven't really felt that my "niceness" has gone unappreciated by men. The guys I spend time around seem to prefer nice girls to mean girls. Well, most of them. Some of them can't figure out that the mean girls are only nice to them, and mean to everyone else. And if I'm baking cookies for a man, I'm not going to be unnoticed, hahaha.
Joined: 2/23/2010
Msg: 81
Ode to the Nice Girls
Posted: 12/6/2010 9:32:49 PM
I've been one to fall for the cheaters, the users, and the wolves in sheep's clothes. I've found that it's not only us nice guys that fall for the outspoken losers, but often that all you nice gals out there fall for our male equivalents. There are many out there who will be all to ready to use you and hurt you, but don't stop loving life and don't stop being awesome to the people life brings to your doorstep. If you end up being "too nice," well, what's truly wrong with that? Keep being too nice! Be so nice that the whole world is better for it. If you can't spend each day making someone's life a little better, spend each day making the world a better place.
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