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 UR4ME?
Joined: 11/15/2006
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How do you know? Are you one of the leading brain scientists? Have you tested this?
How do you know that actively changing your thought processes cannot change how your brain functions?

I don't mean to be rude, but you need to pay attention to what is being said. I did not say anything about "brain function", that is a huge area that we know very little about. I said "brain chemistry", which is not a mystery to us. For example, when our brain is "firing off" too much cortisol, positive thinking is not going to stop that. Too much cortisol can cause stress or panic; it needs to be balanced out. As I have told some clients to help them understand, when your house is on fire you don't try to talk the fire out.

As far as my knowledge, it has been both my field of study and work for a very long while.
 neil89
Joined: 8/16/2006
Msg: 52
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/27/2007 10:15:29 PM
It just amazes me at the amount of women who have fibromyalgia on the dating sites which makes me think there is a something out there that is causing all of it, like tick bites or something else.

All of the people taking antidepressants and they pass the medicine thru them in the bathroom and all of the wildlife downstream in the rivers must be feeling pretty good.
 Suelynnslovecafe
Joined: 11/13/2006
Msg: 53
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Posted: 6/27/2007 10:28:20 PM
I don't believe that antidepressants are very effective. A lot of depressions are caused by our general dissatisfaction about our lives. I have found an attitude of gratitude and compassion for other people can cure a lot of depressions.
 Peter52356
Joined: 5/3/2007
Msg: 54
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/27/2007 10:36:15 PM
I did not say anything about "brain function", that is a huge area that we know very little about. I said "brain chemistry", which is not a mystery to us.


So you are trying to imply that your brain function has no effect whatsoever on brain chemistry? Wow.

Your logic fails me.

I think you just made my point for me.

Changing thought processes can change the way your brain functions, which can, as far as we know, alter the brain chemistry. So my statement stands.


A person living with clinical depression, or "major depression disorder" (DSM-IV), is dealing with a brain chemistry issue and while counselling helps, only medication can balance out the chemical misfirings.




I have to disagree with you there.

Even a person with clinical depression can change how they feel by actively participating in their own recovery. It does not always mean medications have to be involved. Some people just find it easier to function with medications.


If one of the top scientists in the brain field would like to show me I'm wrong, then by all means, show me. I can admit I'm wrong.
 redsn0_0
Joined: 3/5/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2007 10:38:32 PM
well theres a bit of me that says yes "thank god you are on them and please don't ever lose your meds!!" but the other part tells me well whats gonna happen if i combined my genes with hers.. what will happen with the kids!! i think thats one of the big things i think about before getting into any "Real" relationships
 Peter52356
Joined: 5/3/2007
Msg: 56
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Posted: 6/27/2007 10:44:39 PM

but the other part tells me well whats gonna happen if i combined my genes with hers


Ever bothered to consider what will happen if you didn't combine your genes with anyone?

Then your genes would become obsolete, and no longer needed in the gene pool. Bye bye.
 dbndon
Joined: 7/15/2005
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Posted: 6/27/2007 10:45:02 PM
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<div class="quote"> just curious, how many men think antidepressants are a deal breaker?

Hopefully, no one would! After all, there is a proper time and place (need) for everything, so let’s not play games with semantics by splitting hairs here.

Back in my earlier days as a research physiologist, I was involved in a couple interesting studies related to depression and other problems some today called mental illness. One focus of the study was to help people progress, through normal means, and, when the patient cooperated, it was often quite successful. Not always, though. Which means, sometimes major medication(s) was the only productive route to go.

Now, were I occasionally dating someone who was taking antidepressants, I would mention my background but then keep my big mouth shut unless she asked me for information. If asked, I would properly relate the information I know and, if she wished, provide references so that she may discuss what was said with her physician. (I am not a physician) But, if she’s happy with the treatment (and displays a good attitude), then I’m happy to dummy up and enjoy whatever time we have together. Simple as that.

Not so, though, for those who are running a complicated pharmacy on the side and gobbling pills like a treat, rather then a treatment. To me, that would be bothersome and I would, therefore, extricate myself from that situation quite soon.

Today, as a retired researcher, I’m more or less a champion of natural ways for treating mental and physical problems. But, I’m also one of the first to tell friends to see a physician when I see that there is a medical/mental problem that needs attention.

I mean, come on now; sometimes, during the stress and trials of life, someone may need a little short-term “help” (in the form of a pill), rather than the more involved lifestyle changes I often propose for ongoing problems. I can fully realize that and am quick to recommend it to close friends -- as a temporary treatment. Therefore, I’ll send them to their physician.

Oh . . . I have a very delightful young (alas, too young for me) woman friend who is on half the pharmacy of “mental” drugs (bi-polar, among other things). Because she is a good friend, I have provided her a lot of quality research information, which she has discussed with her psychologist and psychiatrist. They, in turn, called me (just her friend) and allowed me to suggest things. Some programs helped, and they reduced medications accordingly. But, as we all agree (at the moment), she may never function properly without medication. That’s just the way it is. But, she’s still a real sweetie.

So, to my alleged mind, anyway, it depends on who, why, when, and how they use the treatment(s) -- rather than just as a treat -- that counts. Usually, though, I’ll have no comment -- unless asked.

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 life_of_leisure
Joined: 1/4/2007
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Posted: 6/27/2007 10:52:42 PM
> how many men think antidepressants are a deal breaker?

Raises hand.

> a lot of guys out there are wary of 'crazy' females...
> but isn't it better if we have it under control?

There's a faulty supposition in the second part of that somewhere. (What Lady_Kay and Suelynnslovecafe said)
 rsx11s
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 59
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Posted: 6/27/2007 11:02:01 PM
I think if they work, great, but it's still kinda scary to be honest, between side effects and remission and voluntary lapses If they dont, um....

I am somewhat alarmed at the % of people that are depressed. Have they been undiagnosed in the past or are more people today afflicted with this?


I think you just made my point for me.


No. You claim something and haven't backed up your assertion. It's up to you to do that not for anybody else to prove it's false. Perhaps that might work on say, anorexia or other eating disorders and perhaps in might even work in some percentage of depressive disorders. But you won't find what you suggest is a blanket cure in any credible medical literature that I'm aware of.
 Peter52356
Joined: 5/3/2007
Msg: 60
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Posted: 6/27/2007 11:13:04 PM

But you won't find what you suggest is a blanket cure in any credible medical literature that I'm aware of.


Precisely. You won't find it supported, nor will you find it denied. Because we don't know.

Which is why, as a sufferer of depression myself, and having been working on my own recovery, I personally believe it is possible.

I'm currently on no medication, and haven't been for almost half a year, and I've been using cognitive therapy techniques to change my thought processes and been noticing a marked difference.

A lot of people out there believe medications are a "panacea" or "cure".

If they were a cure, then why couldn't you just simply take one, and it went away?

That's the definition of a cure isn't it?

I think what medications do, is allow you to "control" the behavior through changing/altering certain areas of the brain.

Did you know, that a lot of tests have been done, where they gave people placebos in place of actual pills, and they noticed a difference there also?

Which is why I think my idea holds water. I personally believe the human mind can fix itself, the same as the human body can fix itself with the immune system.

But I'm not a leading researcher, nor do I have access to a lab to test this hypothesis. Meh.

It'll stay how it is. But my point still stands.

Want me to back my assertion up more?
 j5rush
Joined: 4/13/2006
Msg: 61
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Posted: 6/27/2007 11:48:58 PM

what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?


She recognized there was a problem with her mental state and she is taking care of it. Wouldn't be a deal breaker.

 tk109
Joined: 4/13/2007
Msg: 62
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Posted: 6/27/2007 11:49:17 PM
They are over prescribed and over abused. Especially by women. I think they can have their place after a major crysis for a bit. But they need to take them for a little while then get off them. Not use them as a crutch for life. But for the most part it's best to take other steps first. And they CAN make a difference without meds. Exercise, eat better, try to think more positive, have bright colors on walls, listen to positive music, watch positive movies. These things WILL make a difference. The problem I see with a lot of people in society for about anything is they will continue doing things that cause the problem and want to keep doing them but want a cure for any problems their course of life causes.

I personally dont want to date anyone on meds. Yes it is very noticable and problematic when a women is on meds. Get your head on streight and THEN go find someone. How is that fair to bring the problem into someone elses life?
 OleTimeMusic
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 63
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Posted: 6/28/2007 12:12:15 AM
it would not worry me at all if my lady was on anti D's, i use them myself.
even if i did not use them, it would not deter me from being with a lady who was.

any bloke who uses that as an excuse for not wanting to be with a lady, you would be better off without him anyway.
 UR4ME?
Joined: 11/15/2006
Msg: 64
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Posted: 6/28/2007 2:33:59 AM
So you are trying to imply that your brain function has no effect whatsoever on brain chemistry? Wow

Are you serious? No. To make an easy comparison the "brain function" is the car and the "brain chemistry" is the gas. Brain function does everything, all the driving and the brain chemistry is just a very small part.

And I am going to try and say this one more time and please read it this time...I am talking about misfiring brain chemistry, not brain chemistry in general. When a panic attack begins you cannot talk the cortisol away.

You are just oversimplifying a complex problem.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2007 5:18:12 AM
Nope, it's not a deal-breaker. At least they're not BPD, and in denial about it. That's far worse.

To Lady Kay:

The medical profession (espcially in Canada) just doesn't have the time to deal with patients so they medicate them to the point where they can vaguely function then move on to the next case never fixing the problem that caused the depression in the first place. To fix depression means to re-examine who we are, to get physically active and to begin taking daily steps to move beyond the darkness - it can take months - it can take years - it isn't a quick fix.
This simply isn't true. Doctors work on a trial and error system, and we are the guinea pigs. If a mechanic said that he would try and fix your car, but couldn't guarantee that it is "well", and that it might break down on the freeway, he would be shot. They are simply not held up to the high standard that other practical trades are. The reason is obvious: doctors are not afraid of killing people. They are very rarely accused of either giving a bad treatment, or not administering a good one.

If we made doctors accountable for their actions, and paid them according to their efforts, and not their results, they would make such efforts as to guarantee their work, because finding solutions to an individual problem are a result of luck, but finding solutions to a lot of problems is a result of effort, open-mindedness, and a lot of research.

I am in the process of curing myself of Anxiety and Depression. Unfortunately, the doctors have no time, and little research in this subject, so I am forced to experiment with anything and everything, until I find the solutions that I need. Once done, I intent to publish a book, listing exactly the cures that I have found.

One is Cod Liver Oil, and vitamins. I have discovered the benefits of Omega-3 oils, and vitamins and minerals from healthy sources, such as fruits and vegetables, and supplementing them with vitamin tablets. I can actually tell you for a fact that once I started taking these pills, I started to naturally calm down, and found that my thinking got much clearer. In addition, now, until I take them, my head is full of anxiety, but once I take them, my head clears in about 20 minutes.

The placebo effect does not totally explain this behaviour, as in the intervening 20 minutes, I feel no different than before. Normal placebo effects will start almost immediately. Plus, other effects have resulted that were totally unexpected, such as an increased unwillingness to concede to others' wishes.

I am far from cured. But the situations wherein my depression has got worse are far from random, and the situations that made me more positive and outgoing are far from random, either. So I am sticking with what I know, and am trying to learn more, in order to get answers.
 MermaidMafia
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Posted: 6/28/2007 5:30:42 AM
Scorpiomover, I think it's great you're trying to find natural alternatives to antidepressants. Since you're willing to try cod liver oil, I thought you might want to look into Emotional Freedom Techniques. It's based on the theory of acupuncture and I have no idea if it works. I haven't tried it myself. I have heard of others who swear by it though.
 Got Trance
Joined: 5/23/2007
Msg: 67
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Posted: 6/28/2007 6:45:43 AM
I wonder. How many of you that are taking antidepressants and swear by them would not hesitate to suggest that your children might need to be medicated? " Doctor Smith, My son likes to dress in black, listens to strange music, and does not talk to me like he use to. Maybe he is depressed. Lets get him on medication."
While taking medication can work for some it is not the answer to all your problems.
 indigoeyes
Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 68
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:07:45 AM

I wonder. How many of you that are taking antidepressants and swear by them would not hesitate to suggest that your children might need to be medicated? " Doctor Smith, My son likes to dress in black, listens to strange music, and does not talk to me like he use to. Maybe he is depressed. Lets get him on medication."
While taking medication can work for some it is not the answer to all your problems.


My children who are in their late teens, have never and I pray will never need to be on antidepressants. They have seen the difference in me with and without medication. We openly discuss it as it is a fact of my life. As I said before I am on Prozac to treat multiple health issues...currently pms and insomnia. If I didn't take the medication those issues become part of a vicious circle that only worsen my depression, feeding off of each other. I have been in that vicious circle and don't want to go back living that way. I am a single parent, and it is my responsibility to do what I need to do to keep myself healthy. If I need Prozac to do that, so be it.
 talksalot02
Joined: 6/7/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:51:09 AM
I've taken antidepressants for situational depression for years. I don't take them long term, because of the loss of affect. I don't like feeling like I just don't care about anything, even things I should care about. I really haven't noticed any sexual side effects when I take them. If a guy turns me on, he turns me on...period!

The strange thing I've found is that most guys I tell about this have been or are on anti-depressants too. I was shocked at work to find out how many people are on mood altering medication! Makes me think it might not be a good place to work.

Seriously, though, if a man doesn't want you because you realize you have a problem and are willing to treat it, why would you want him?
 Suelynnslovecafe
Joined: 11/13/2006
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:01:32 AM

For those who have legitimate reasons and the medication is helping, I'm glad it is working for you. For those who are just sad and considering taking pills to fix their life - it won't fix the problem and THAT is what I was attempting to express in my previous post.


I think some people use anti-depressants the same way as flu medicines. You are on when you have a fever; you are off when you are cool again.
 dbndon
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:15:49 AM
Yeah ^^^ I think you may be very correct, just didn't want to say that outright.

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 Struedel
Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 72
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:22:38 AM

they've never seen me be the weepy overemotional mess I am without em.


I hear that! I'm on paxil for anxiety and before I used to cry very easily - it wasn't that I was upset, I would just cry over something I was watching on TV, or something sad I read. Now I hardly ever cry.

Some people don't get the use for meds - they would never question a diabetic taking insulin, but when it comes to a chemical imbalance in the brain, they think you should be able to work it out alone.
 Addicted_2_Chaos
Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 73
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:29:25 AM
I would want to know the TRUTH, plain, unvarnished, no hedging, no half-truths.

Once the real condition is out in the open, we can talk about all the surrounding issues.

Telling me you are Paxil for "some slight anxiety issues" and then revealing after marriage that you have Borderline Personality Disorder is NOT cool. Struedel, I didn't see your Paxil comments until after I posted. My experiences are what I am talking about in this paragraph.

Guys, it can happen to you...be careful out there. The Master Manipulators are alive and well in society, masquerading as nice girls.

OP- do not think this is levelled at you- I admire you for asking the question and being realistic enough to know it could be a problem.
 chasing_daylight
Joined: 4/16/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:34:24 AM
Being smart enough to know you need a little help is needed is nothing a guy should slight you for, does that mean that some guys will anyways? Absolutely. Everyone is different though, and if they can't accept you for all you got going on, then that's their loss. I think that as long as you're okay with it and you show you have no shame in it then people won't be taken back by it either. Good luck!
 TeJ_25
Joined: 2/17/2007
Msg: 75
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Posted: 6/28/2007 9:45:36 AM
since worked in pharmacy management in the past understand the issues of the drug industry versus the holistic health approach. prefer the approach of vitamin supplements and other health alternatives rather than traditional medicine. if a guy does not accept or respect you as a person then it would seem that considering him for a relationship would not be an option. for me at least if the other attributes such as personality, good character, ambition, and attitude outweigh the issue of a mental illness that can be managed it would not be an issue. though would like to encourage alternative medicine rather than traditional medicine when able
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