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 prudegirl
Joined: 1/31/2007
Msg: 101
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i too take wellbutrin...i'm like...getting off it hopefully by december...hopefully i won't be batshit crazy without them.
 prudegirl
Joined: 1/31/2007
Msg: 102
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 12:59:22 PM
HILARIOUS! We'll market a new drink...We'll call it Paxil Jackup.
 dave1234
Joined: 11/7/2004
Msg: 103
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what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 1:21:16 PM
To my knowledge I've never dated anyone on antidepressants. In any case I'm a firm believer in better living through chemistry.
 valleyjavastop
Joined: 6/4/2007
Msg: 104
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 2:31:45 PM
just curious,do they have fewer wrinkles ?
drugs controlling highs and lows ,, ups and downs ,,not so many frowns and smiles ?
weight gain ..
hmm
 indigoeyes
Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 105
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 3:09:35 PM

just curious,do they have fewer wrinkles ?
drugs controlling highs and lows ,, ups and downs ,,not so many frowns and smiles ?
weight gain ..
hmm


Just slightly superficial and shallow...WTF
 dreamcatcher39
Joined: 6/12/2005
Msg: 106
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 3:19:54 PM
Sejanuss, If i were a betting person, i would say u have never suffered from depression. When u are that down the last thing on your mind is a blow your brains out orgasm. Just getting out of bed is completly overwhelming. When it comes to a choice of not wanting to live another second and a less intense orgasm, i think i will take the less intense orgasm.
 shanmardev
Joined: 4/21/2007
Msg: 107
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 3:51:33 PM

Prudegirl, bayrab, PGIsailor, indigoeyes, writerguy1975, shanmardev, verygreeneyez, freefallinT. I notice that all of you stated NO to the "Do you do drugs?" section of the profile. Although the drugs you take are legal and prescribed I think it is important to let people know you are taking them.

Are you freakin serious? So even though Tylenol is completly legal, should you mark "yes" on the DO YOU DO DRUGS section? You know, cuz I may be concerned about you taking Tylenol secondary to increased liver damage. WTF? I think we all know what is meant by the drug section. If they had "Do you take Antidepressants"...I would GLADLY mark YES! And suggesting that anyone on meds would want their children medicated as well? I wont even waste my time with that comment.

Sheesh, you act like anyone taking antidepressants are wearing helmets and drooling on theirselves. Now wheres my Klonopin? *drools on shirt*

This subject is something I'm very passionate about. I use my experiences to hopefully help another going through the same thing. I know for a fact there are several unstable people out there, but just because your on a medication, that doesnt mean you're a wacko. I respect all opinions on this subject, but again, don't judge unless you go through it yourself.
 Ralph42
Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 108
How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 4:21:03 PM
The "deal breaker" is the fact that these drugs are over used and women that use them are much more likely than not using the drugs as an excuse for some sort of unbearable behavior. (The old, it isn't me, it's my illness, routine.) You may as well tell me you're smoking crack. I have the same problem with women expecting a week per month to be psychotic because of PMS or because they've had this or that happen. I've had lots of things happen to me, I don't take it out on others and I don't sit around and mope all day. If they honest to goodness need the meds, well, then, they fall into the sickly category and that's a deal breaker too.

@RollerGrrl... Ah, nevermind, I can't be bothered. Enjoy the acknowledgement. That's all you'll get. I don't shoot fish in a barrel... often ;)


~Juxtaposition~ wrote...Minimum they are aware they have problems, and are doing something...but the real work is not in taking pills, but addressing the Problem itself.


Just to confirm, I have no issue with people that legitimately need pills to be mentally healthy. The issue, in my opinion, is that the scale of prescriptions far exceeds that inventory of people. Those non-legitimate prescription dependents are whom I take issue with. Their problem is that they don't acknowledge their problem is their prescription drug use as well as whatever manifestations of their lack of self-discipline.


Sabrosura wrote...What is your medical professional degree in? Obviously, you are not well-educated in this topic.


Did I claim to have a medical degree? No.

My opinion is based on the observation of those that use medication. Like I mentioned, I actually know a couple of people for whom these pills have made a useful contribution to them living a normal life. For the rest, I see no good reason for the use other than to excuse their own lack of self-control. People have been around for how many millions of years? Yet all of a sudden half the population of this society needs pills to be normal? And excuse rotten behavior because of their self-proclaimed illness. How did humanity survive up to now? That's one smelly pile of BS, if you ask me. I don't think you need a MD to realize that.


Sabrosura wrote...Why do you smoke? Are you addicted to the nicotine? Does that mean that you are a "weak" individual that turns to a substance to cope?


You know, I never thought of that before. You've caused an epiphany for me. Sorry, just kidding.

I once faced a rabid anti-smoker on a nice summer day. I was perfectly happy smoking out of doors and this 40-something woman comes sitting nearby. Okay, fine. First words from her mouth, "I'm algeric to smoke, would you mind not smoking here." My first thoughts were: If smoke bothers you, why sit here? I was here first. But being the caring, decent guy I am, I inhaled deeply from my cancer stick and read aloud from the pack I had in hand the warning... "You know, second hand smoke kills" as I exhaled in her face. Oddly enough, with a huff she left me alone.

Now, people around me who knew me before smoking and after smoking will note that I'm a lot less intense now. I've been thinking about quitting though :o


indigoeyes wrote...I am one of those legally equivalent crackheads you speak of...you would be wrong, your post pi$$es me off.


Well, then, the meds ain't working honey :)


ladyc4 wrote......if you are looking to date, avoid people on medication for "physical" ailments, because most likely it was something THEY DID that caused it...


Uh, well... actually... I generally do :D



Suelynnslovecafe wrote...A lot of depressions are caused by our general dissatisfaction about our lives.


Yes. I agree.

And pills just mask the reality. Sort of like... crack.

But anyway, at least this thread proves there is yet another issue we're supposed to just let slide when mating. Well, short-term, shhhure. But, if I want long-time baby, nah, I don't think so. And the commentary here, tells me, at least, that still sooo many want to have their cake and eat it too.
 Sabrosura
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 109
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 5:05:23 PM

How many of you that are taking antidepressants and swear by them would not hesitate to suggest that your children might need to be medicated? " Doctor Smith, My son likes to dress in black, listens to strange music, and does not talk to me like he use to. Maybe he is depressed. Lets get him on medication."
While taking medication can work for some it is not the answer to all your problems.


Evidently you have no clue why some take the medications because you would not suggest that your child take them because they are dressing a particular fashion, listens to their choice of music and does not talk to their parent like they "use to". Hellloooooooo..you are describing a stage that most teenagers go through during their "rebeling" years.

I don't understand why some do not get educated before making some off the wall assumption on any given subject matter.
 RollerGrrrl
Joined: 3/11/2006
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How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 5:35:49 PM

@RollerGrrl... Ah, nevermind, I can't be bothered. Enjoy the acknowledgement


what? *looks around* did someone say something?

must need to up my meds....



Ralph42, you come across as a very critical, bitter, rude, condescending, VERBOSE old man... whatever blows your hair back, pops.
 Epiphanizer
Joined: 6/22/2007
Msg: 111
How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 5:39:05 PM
Depression is an illness or a disease, just like diabetes, heart conditions, etc. Nobody chooses to have a depression. It just IS. Depressions can be triggered by life circumstances, but it is based on a chemical imbalance in the brain. People don't wake up in the morning and decide 'they're depressed'. In fact, most people who think they MIGHT be depressed, ignore the symptoms because of the social stigma attached to it. Depression is horrible. It alters your life, your relationships, your work life - everything. I have suffered from it for a number of years and have worked very hard at maintaining the 'status quo'. I'm not ashamed to talk about it - why should I be? It's a disease in my body. I don't let it determine who I am - just as someone with heart disease wouldn't let it determine who they were. Depressed persons are just the same as those who depend on medication for a physical ailment. So, if someone decided they didn't 'like me' because I take anti depressants - it's their loss - they're the ones who aren't educated enough to see beyond the disease. Those who think that people who take antidepressants are 'masking reality' - have never experienced anything as painful and debilitating as depression - lucky them.
 n_to_the_j
Joined: 6/18/2007
Msg: 112
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 5:43:27 PM
being on antidepressants and online dating,what do i think?
it isnt a requirement but it helps.

thanks
john
 Ricardo74
Joined: 3/8/2007
Msg: 113
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:00:05 PM
hey prude girl,

i was with a girl who was on antidepressants and i have to say i had the worst time of my life!!

she was violent, extremely insecure, and as much as i tried to undertsand and support her illness it just got worse until i had to call the cops one time cos because she tried to stab me with a sharp kitchen knife all because i was an hour late home from work!!

i read alot about depression when we were together and i had also studied psychology anyways so i was more understanding than most...but enough was enough..and i left after 2 years of shit.

i read ur profile also too, and to be honest with what uv said ur gonna find it hard to meet someone unless they have been through a similar situation!

its great that u r getting over ur depression, however my ex said that aswell!
anyways nest of luck to u and i hope that u do find mr right!
 lovableladywanted
Joined: 5/14/2006
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what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:08:17 PM
I have no problem if someone needs medication. Kind of a small thing to judge someone on when you are looking for the right lady.
 indigoeyes
Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 115
How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:12:55 PM
Ralph42...ignorance is NOT bliss...you need more help than all of us you singled out put together. You just keep shooting off your angry, bitter, hateful mouth about something you know absolutely nothing about. That will get you alot of dates.
 An Acronym
Joined: 4/21/2006
Msg: 116
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:14:47 PM
being on antidepressants and online dating,what do i think?
it isnt a requirement but it helps.
... LOL - so true my friend. This site should come with a warning such as "Can lower self-esteem and cause depression d/t how many people you discover really don't like you."

Haven't read all the replies - but have seen some discussion about if antidepressants are necessary, are over-perscribed, etc.
Am not a psychiatrist, psychologist, etc. - am simply a 3rd year nursing student who has an interest in mental health and abnormal psychology and have done a ton of research into many disorders; did a rotation a few months ago under the tutelage of a psychiatrist at a Tourette's clinic that also treats disorders such as depression, anxiety, phobias, borderline personality, autistic spectrum such as Asperger's and so on.
So here's some facts:
-depression is a very complex condition, and our best guide to diagnosing it is the DSM-IV.
-major and minor depression is caused by both thought processes and neurotransmitter imbalances, which can cause a cyclic pattern, with each feeding off the other.
-antidepressants have been clinically proven to decrease depression.
-therapies such as cognitive behavioral (CBT), interpersonal (IPT), exposure and a few others have also been clinically proven to decrease depression.
-therapies such as CBT and IPT have been clinically proven to be slightly less AND as effective (depending on which studies you quote) in sucessfully treating both major/minor depression (although better sucess rate with minor depression, dysthymia, etc.).
-there is no strong evidence that combining medications and therapy work better than using either/or.
-although the neurotransmitter dopamine is strongly involved in depression, it's not a simple linear connection - serotonin and norepinephrine also play important roles, as do past experiences, genetics, etc.

I do agree with the statement that antidepressants are over-prescribed; but it can be a quicker fix than most therapies, although meds do come with side effects :\
People want that "quick" fix - alot of depression can be alleviated by cognitive changes in thinking, yet this takes longer and involved lots of work, thinking-restructuring, etc. But here we must be careful, for if the depression is chronic via thought-processes and/or neurotransmitter imbalance, it is currently believed that medications are the best treatment - so always follow the directions of your specialist!
Depression is a complicated disorder, and so many factors contribute, including misdiagnosing the many different types of depression.
As it is the #1 mental "disorder" in the West, I've no idea why it is still so stigmatized :\
 Sabrosura
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 117
How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:22:05 PM

Did I claim to have a medical degree? No.

My opinion is based on the observation of those that use medication. Like I mentioned, I actually know a couple of people for whom these pills have made a useful contribution to them living a normal life. For the rest, I see no good reason for the use other than to excuse their own lack of self-control. People have been around for how many millions of years? Yet all of a sudden half the population of this society needs pills to be normal? And excuse rotten behavior because of their self-proclaimed illness. How did humanity survive up to now? That's one smelly pile of BS, if you ask me. I don't think you need a MD to realize that.


Another uneducated response without any knowledge or education to support them.

 GlamorouslyAwkward
Joined: 6/11/2007
Msg: 118
what do guys think of girls who take antidepressants?
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:40:14 PM

I understand from your past experience how you feel, but to say that someone that is on them should not be dating or trying to establish a relationship is not fair. I will unfortunately probably always be on them.. it is not that something has happened and I need to get through it.
It is a chemical imbalance and is simply the way I am made. So, should I just never get the chance to meet someone, just because I need them? At this point in my life I have nothing I need to work on about myself, nothing will change the fact that I need to take meds. Like I said before, it is just the same as any medical condition that requires medication to keep it in check.


Well, the flip side of the coin is, do I think my ex should be out getting into a relationship without medication or intense therapy? Nope!

There is a difference between taking meds, and not learning new coping skills. Life is all about learning, changing, and bettering ourselves not only as individuals but also as a collective whole. Where are the coping skills? We see on the news every night of murder suicides, mothers drowning their children... we are failing our own neighbors by not reaching out a helping hand and teaching valuable and viable coping skills. If our own families do not have good coping skills, of course we as grown children will not have them either. I've had a completely full life in terms of dealing with strife.... but I am here with viable coping skills, personal perspective, and love for myself and my children to know that we must not allow ourselves to be lead into a beautiful but false "Brave New World."

This is what works (i.e. coping skills) for my family. We are just us, and not anyone else. So what works for us probably won't work for another. But for me, I have five children, so if I am to find a helpmate I would need them not to be diagnosed with something that may end up hurting my children or myself in the long run.

Emmy
 dave1234
Joined: 11/7/2004
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How depressing!
Posted: 6/28/2007 6:57:26 PM
Verygreeneyez writes in msg 34,
I've had panic disorder most of my adult life ~ unless I feel the need I don't take any meds. If I feel the need, I not only take them ~ I say prayers in their honor. In other words, I'm a PRN person. The truth is, I've dated plenty and no one knew unless I mentioned it. I have never been on an anti-depressant drug, that isn't my problem. But, I've been with one or two men who needed them and weren't on them because of the closed-minded opinions of some ~ and the reality is: if you need it, take it. I have no issue if someone has a problem and is trying to solve it. Ignore the problem and it just remains a problem. Now where did I put that oxy-cotin? Oh, I don't have the good drugs....damn it.


I have them.

I know exactly what you mean by closed minded people, doctors included. I had a serious car accident, years ago, and suffered nerve damage due to a fractured spine. I continued to work while in constant pain. The doctors gave me an assortment of tranquilizers, anti-depressants and anti-convulsants ( purportedly good for pain) which did nothing for the pain but resulted in my walking around all day in a fog.

For two years I saw doctors recommended by the insurance company. Finally, I procured a family doctor. A couple of months of codeine pills and I felt like I was the walking dead so I said to the doctor, "When they amputate a person's leg, for example, they do not give the patient anti-depressants or anti-convulsants or those codeine pills I'm currently taking. What do they give the patient to stop the pain and why am I not taking whatever those pills are?"

He sent me to a doctor who specializes in pain and deals with cancer patients. The doctor listened to me for 10 or 15 minutes and then excused himself. He returned with a handful of pills, put them in a pill bottle, and passed the bottle to me.

"Take one and wait 12 hours", he instructed me. "If the pain didn't go away take two and wait 12 hours. Continue increasing the dosage by one pill every 12 hours until the pain goes away. When you have determined the correct dosage return to your family doctor and tell him what you need."

That was it. Two years of suffering ended with a 15 minute conversation with the right doctor. He gave me oxycontin.

I returned to my family doctor and he wrote out a prescription for what I needed. He explained I would become addicted to them. I replied, "What is the difference between my needing those for pain and a diabetic needing insulin? Whether addicted or not we both require our medication."

We had the mandatory talk about the Feds probably checking on both him and I because of the medication. That was over 10 years ago and while I can no longer do the limbo I can hold my own on the dance floor thanks to the medication.

There is nothing heroic nor noble about suffering needlessly. If a pill makes one feel better resulting in their functioning better then I question the mental state of anyone opposing their use. As I said before, "Better living through chemistry."
 Ralph42
Joined: 5/27/2006
Msg: 120
Depressed Women Seeking... Dates?
Posted: 6/28/2007 8:01:51 PM
@indigoeyes...

Take a serious look at your text. You have nothing but ad hominem arguments to present when actually challenged. See where the crackhead analog fits in now? Care to guess about my deal breaking perspective of mood altering drugs?

Anyway, I have this other rule: if a person can't play nice, I don't play.

@Sabrosura...

Ditto. Oh, and take note, I didn't say I was "uneducated" either or that my educated-ness did not have bearing. But, frankly, a half-wit can figure out that something's not right when the number of claimments of illness reach the proportions of those with depression. If half the population is depressed maybe being depressed is a normal part of life and doesn't need a pill. Of course, a "medical field" worker such as yourself probably knows that too -- I'm so sure.
 Seavoyage
Joined: 1/18/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:24:10 PM
I would rather the woman take her medicine than not take it. I wouldn't want them depressed. I was dating a girl who was having some problems, and I encouraged her to see a doctor. She was thinking about it. She felt better. I had a family member who seriously needed to take something, but she wouldn't and would make life hell for everyone around. If it would make you feel happier than do it. I don't think most guys would really focus on that as long as the person didn't seem nuts or something which is not the case most of the time. Many guys get depressed, too. It happens to me sometimes. Then I have to meditate a lot, make sure I am taking my B vitamins, supplements, drinking lots of water...
 Sabrosura
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 122
Ralph42
Posted: 6/28/2007 8:37:30 PM
"@Sabrosura...

Ditto. Oh, and take note, I didn't say I was "uneducated" either or that my educated-ness did not have bearing. But, frankly, a half-wit can figure out that something's not right when the number of claimments of illness reach the proportions of those with depression. If half the population is depressed maybe being depressed is a normal part of life and doesn't need a pill. Of course, a "medical field" worker such as yourself probably knows that too -- I'm so sure."

When you provide actual facts/resources/references with clinical trials and the whole nine yards on the subject matter.....that have actually been proven by those that DO KNOW what they are talking about (medical professionals) and not merely making uneducated "observations" I welcome the opportunity for you to educate us all.
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 123
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:47:11 PM
There is nothing heroic nor noble about suffering needlessly. If a pill makes one feel better resulting in their functioning better then I question the mental state of anyone opposing their use.


Isn't that the truth. About 18 months ago I decided to go it without meds. By month 12, my family, friends, and even the dog were begging me to see the MD. I refused to leave home. I was mortified that I might panic outside of home, so I refused to go anywhere. How silly was that? 13 years of diagnosed panic and I think I can magically become cured by myself and lack of meds. Pft. My own intelligence went out the window and the sanity of everyone around me nearly did as well. It's hard to watch someone you love suffer. I was suffering and so was everyone else who knew me when I had medicine that took EVERY single symptom away.

And, I know what you mean about that 15 minute MD appt. I went to a new doc, told him this, that, blah blah blah ~ he said, "Well, let's stick with what works." Problem solved. A year of my life wasted because I was thinking I would suddenly have new DNA. Never again will I be that pig-headed or assinine.

For all of those that think anti-depressants are the same as "drug usage" ~ ***shaking head...loud sigh***** First of all, they are non-narcotic (if we are talking uptake or inhibitors) they don't render a feeling of "Wow, this is some good shiit here." and for those who do need them, not only do they restore some sort of quality of life, they may even save a life or two. I have the perfect way to solve this: when you find someone you'd like to date, send an application and a med release form. Get their med records from their MD and see what they take. All the anti-meds stick together ~ all the rest stick together. Simple solution. (Better yet, how about you just like someone for who they are today ?? Holy cow ~ what a concept. )

(Goodness folks, break a leg ~ you'll take an Advil or Vicodin ~ have screwed up chems in the brain and it damn well better fix it's own self.)
 Normalspeed
Joined: 6/24/2007
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:47:27 PM
i think its just fine. i would encourage her to not feel so defeated by the whole thing like the depressed seem to enjoy. soon as she says ADD, or goes on and on, i would break off any contact because it seems like an airy wall she is building up. oh, if she says depressive bipolar, i don't like her or associate either. so i would just tell her to keep that part of herself quiet.
 indigoeyes
Joined: 8/26/2006
Msg: 125
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Posted: 6/28/2007 8:50:58 PM

Anyway, I have this other rule: if a person can't play nice, I don't play.


Follow your own rule and find a new pond to swim in.

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