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 yankeentxs
Joined: 8/30/2005
Msg: 51
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Wow! I thought I made up the term "Born Again Virgin", I'm so disappointed in me now. sigh
 NatGoat
Joined: 10/15/2005
Msg: 52
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Posted: 9/20/2007 9:42:27 PM
I thought _I_ did, Too . . in '98 . . just after my wife passed . . !!!
That's also when I created my Name . . !!!

. . . .
 wodehousefan2
Joined: 9/12/2007
Msg: 53
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Posted: 9/22/2007 2:41:39 PM
With some guys sex is the only goal. For others it is the first goal of many. Why bother getting to know, be friends with, etc, a woman you are not sexually compatible with? I have all the platonic female pals I need, and now I want a friend with benefits who may grow to become a lot more. It has to start with sex, because if there is no good sex, there is nothing else. Why waste time building yet more platonic friendships when I don't want anymore of those than I already have? Many women want to be friends first, and maybe have sex later. That worked a hundred years ago, but no more. Time is short, and I need what I need soon. I'm looking for sex now, and friendship later. When the sex is great, the friendship, companionship, life together, etc, can follow easily. When the sex is lousy, or there is no sex, there will be nothing else. Being a commodity in short supply-a nice, non-felon, non-beater, intelligent, male, who is willing to marry Ms. Right, and who likes to cuddle and give as well as get-I make the rules. I plan to shop around, and the woman who plays the game to win-by my rules-wins a guy worth having. The women who hoard their sexual favors-as if doling out water in a time of drought-will end up alone, or with some scumbag of a guy who pretended to be nice long enough to con them.
 lizzyO
Joined: 9/5/2007
Msg: 54
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Posted: 9/23/2007 10:27:13 AM
Wow, reading these posts makes me feel a bit sad. As for me, I don't intend to have sex until I am married. Yup, that's right until I am married. If I never get married, I will never have sex. Did someone just faint? According to scripture both old and new testament, to have sex outside of marriage is to also lock yourself out of God's best for you. Yes, I know, some marriages don't work, people get divorced, there is abuse so many arguments why it is better to go ahead and have sex out of marriage than to wait. My only argument for not having sex outside of marriage is because God says so and to do otherwise is to risk losing my immortal soul and ending up in Hell when I die. Yes I do believe this, really. I am intelligent, capable women with a Master's degree living in the 21st century and I do believe this and know lots of intelligent, beautfful women who believe this too. Before you boo hoo me, consider this, God loves us and wants the best for us. He says "no sex outside of marriage" beause He knows it is not really good for us spiritually (the loss of our souls) emotionally (broken hearts and heardend hearts), mentally (sexual addiction), and physically (all kinds of diseases that can even lead to death like HPV, AIDS, HIV and HEP C to name a few). For you Catholics out there, and I am appalled by how many people claim to be Catholic and don't even know what that means, pick up your catechism and see what it says on the subject, or better yet, get a copy of Christopher West's book on The Theology of the Body and read it. For those of you in the Boston are, St. Clemenr's Shrine on Boyalston street will be doing a weekly series on The Theology of The Body (viewing human sexuality and the sacredness of male/female identity and relations from God's point of view) on Sunday morning at 9:30. The talks being September 30 and go for I think 8 weeks. The Shrine is on Boyalston street, after the Prudentail building, cross over Mass Ave. At any rate check it out. God's love is far better and far more certain than thing a man can provide.
 brown eyes1028
Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 55
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Posted: 9/23/2007 11:26:42 AM
Amen to you Lizzyo, I feel the same way I think people have forgotten what the lord's
teaching are. I was told several times " the reason you haven't found someone is because you don't give out" . My thought was "How sad it must be not to value yourself.
 Donnchadh
Joined: 1/7/2007
Msg: 56
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Posted: 9/23/2007 1:18:31 PM
The last few years of my marriage were loveless, and I haven't met anyone since my divorce in 2005. So I am in serious danger of completely forgetting what sex was all about ;-) and becoming a virgin again.

Oh well.

Donnchadh
 TylerD83
Joined: 11/15/2007
Msg: 57
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Posted: 12/14/2007 10:35:20 PM
A virgin at 45? I've met them. As it turns out, I was a catalyst for a few. Once they grew to appreciate sex for the mental, physical and emotional benefits it brings, they were to be polite, bedroom sluts. We still get along great.
Where is everyone getting this prudish attitude from?
Use or be used? Thats a terrible way to look at sex.
Maybe I am different, I do tend to the womans needs first..so "she gets hers, before I get mine". And perhaps that is the beginning of this quandry. Most are selfish. I am not.
I've looked at biology relating to sex, and it turns out that it is mandatory among every race, or there is no Race.
Not having sex is un-natural. Yes Girlflower, you may remain celebate the rest of your life till the perfect stranger appears. And I'm sure you will. For me, I'm headed out with your neighbor friend join the Race, and you are welcome to come along.
Have a nice orgasm..
 TylerD83
Joined: 11/15/2007
Msg: 58
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Posted: 12/14/2007 10:36:35 PM
What he said.. and if we are all in agreement.. lets retire to the bedroom..
 oscarz05
Joined: 8/22/2007
Msg: 59
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Posted: 12/15/2007 4:37:01 AM
sex is a key piece of life. yes, it wonderful when all the rainbows, birds singing, heavenly choirs, etc are in full effect, but...


...you need to keep your game sharp, and you may find your search for the "great moment" a good deal easier if you aren't completely out of practice.


use it or lose it. thats what its there for you know.
 claypot
Joined: 3/7/2006
Msg: 60
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Posted: 12/15/2007 5:10:37 AM
Just because I'm rip for the pickin, doesn't mean I will fall off the tree in a soft spring breeze, more like a tornado has to come thru any more. Ok, maybe not a tornado, but they have to be worthy enough for me to let go of the branch.

Whippin thur here real quick again, those who spit out about God and religious reasons, I'm sorry that may work for you, BUT, the whole world no longer, nor did they every live by those rules.

We came to be, this is true, we also came to be here to be HAPPY, and yes, that does include SEX, married or not.

This theroy works for some, but the majority, I don't think so. Am I a bad person for thinking this way? Heck no. It's reality, EVERYONE needs or at some time in their life, needed the human touch, why make more into it then really needs to be?

If it feels good, go for it, it's the times that it DOESN'T feel good that we should question our OWN reasons. Knowone else has that right to judge us, UNLESS we give it to them. JMO
 fay98
Joined: 8/8/2007
Msg: 61
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Posted: 12/15/2007 6:50:47 AM
Hey whats wrong with sex alone. No diseases and you don't have to boot him out!
 Pink Rose Lady
Joined: 10/1/2006
Msg: 62
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Posted: 12/15/2007 9:08:59 AM
Once you take a brand new beautiful car right out of the showroom and take it around the block, it's now a used car. Oh sure, you can wash it and polish it up, maybe even wax it, but it'll never be in its original condition.

This born again stuff is kinda the same thing, don't you think? Vrooooooom!

Pink
 MeereKat
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 63
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Posted: 6/5/2008 5:11:28 AM
Sex...just for the sake of Sex...is for the Young....
*The Bad-boys...The Macho-men...The Flighty girls...The Sluts...*

Those of us in a more Mature state of mind..are looking for something more
substantial...
An actual exchange of Feelings..!!
I'm looking for an LTR for a Reason...!!
...and it has more than _3_ letters...!!!
. . . .
 amo-vida
Joined: 5/29/2008
Msg: 64
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Posted: 6/5/2008 11:30:20 AM
I thank everyone for their generous comments and honesty. A few years ago, when I was back in the dating loop, I was soooooo out of the loop. I'd go on a first date and have the guy sucking my tonsils out and then p1ssed as he11 because "hey, you were giving me all the signals." What???????

I felt like crawling under a rock and deciding to never date again because I was too out of touch with the world (married for so long -- didn't know what happened). Sure, when I was young, sex was not a big deal. I was not a person who waited for a ring but I had steady boyfriends. We were young and stupid. I'm sure that I also had not yet learned how to enjoy sex. We also did not have to worry about the sorts of diseases that kill. (Maybe this is why some older men chase very young women -- they are not yet assertive enough to say that they need more emotional intimacy and not mature enough to know their bodies)

Years of marriage ... enter the single life ... and it seemed like I was supposed to have some sort of switch built into my back: buy me dinner/ drink/ coffee/ a bus ticket and you have one click of the switch. Turn me on and my name's barbie let's go party!

I appreciate hearing that I am not alone in feeling that I need to feel some sort of emotional connection. I need to feel comfortable, safe, attached ... before we attach.
 GingersnapWA
Joined: 4/14/2008
Msg: 65
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Posted: 6/5/2008 11:51:31 AM
"It has to start with sex.."--wodehousefan2
So...how's THAT workin' for ya???

"""Why bother getting to know, be friends with, etc, a woman you are not sexually compatible with? ...It has to start with sex, because if there is no good sex, there is nothing else. Why waste time building yet more platonic friendships when I don't want anymore of those than I already have? Many women want to be friends first, and maybe have sex later. ... When the sex is great, the friendship, companionship, life together, etc, can follow easily"""----Wodehousefan2 wrote.

My response:
Why bother sharing my precious body (& the heart which cannot be separated from it) with a man in whom Love & Trust have Not had time to develop, & whose beliefs, tastes, lifestyle & goals may not be compatible with mine?? It has to start with friendship & compatibility in areas other than sex , oh, and with LOVE first, because if there is No love, friendship or compatible goals, there is nothing else. Why waste my time on casual sexual partners, when I don't want anymore of those then I have already had in the past? Many men want Sex, first and Maybe friends later. When the Love, Trust, Friendship and Compatibility are there First, the sex can follow easily.
 ColumbiaSingle
Joined: 5/20/2008
Msg: 66
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Posted: 6/5/2008 11:56:35 AM
Another reason to legalize prostitution. Then women will not have to deal so much with the guys that don't care one bit about you, your body and your health and only want to get laid.
 amo-vida
Joined: 5/29/2008
Msg: 67
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Posted: 6/5/2008 2:15:06 PM
^^^^ it wouldn't help to legalize prostitution. He's actually ruining it for the professional women. He wants the freebies. And please don't carry on about the money you have wasted on dates and didn't even get any action. If you had any idea how much it costs for women to be in the dating world ...
 Ed Bear
Joined: 5/19/2007
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Posted: 6/5/2008 4:37:04 PM
Sad to say, I'd suspect anyone in this forum already has a low opinion of themselves.

They say that whatever you may want to do to a goat, you can find friends into in on the web, but I must confess stumbling upon this topic was more depressing than comforting.

It's been a bad day.
 shootingstargal
Joined: 5/18/2008
Msg: 69
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Posted: 6/5/2008 7:12:55 PM
I think of myself as a "virgin by default" or a "retro-active virgin"
 dustyknight
Joined: 9/14/2006
Msg: 70
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Posted: 6/6/2008 4:57:03 AM
the true B.A.V. is an arachnid..ok a female spider who kills the male after mating..then becomes a virgin once again.
I think this topic masks other problems in your life, who the h3ll cares if you are a virgin? All I care is that I'm the last..
what happened to all the normal, happy content folks? I'm sorry but this has to be the silliest forum topic yet.
dusty
 Blithe_Spirit
Joined: 2/23/2008
Msg: 71
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Posted: 6/6/2008 7:52:24 PM
When I have sex with a man, whether I know him terribly well or not, I don't consider it a case of me using him or him using me.

To me, sex is a gift we give one another. Some of us are stingy and some of us are generous.

THAT oughta raise some hackles.
 Mizz Demeanor
Joined: 4/28/2008
Msg: 72
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Posted: 6/6/2008 8:05:19 PM
Heard this a while back & it made me giggle........

"I may not have the cherry, but I've still got the box it came in"

~mizz
 amo-vida
Joined: 5/29/2008
Msg: 73
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Posted: 6/6/2008 9:40:52 PM
dusty, what is so silly about just expressing a desire or need to have an emotional attraction before a sexual attraction & intimacy can happen? What is so silly about a group of people expressing their preferences (not putting down other who feel differently) and thereby letting others know that they are not alone?
Like a lot of thread titles, I can see how the title of this thread can seem silly. But the title does not at all reflect or represent the op or the content. I don't expect or need some ridiculous physical transformation to happen so that someone can 'pop' me.

It is worth mentioning, since we are on that topic, there are many plastic surgeons in the USA who actually do surgery on women to re-attach the hymen so that brides can pass the wedding night virginity test.
I don't think that anyone in this thread really gives a hoot about those sorts of extremes and insane need to become true b-a-vins.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 74
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Posted: 6/7/2008 12:26:48 PM
I don't see anything wrong with casual sex between consenting adults, as long as both are being responsible and know what they are getting out of it. I don't feel superior because I don't normally do it, I feel like I should live my life (and sex life) the way I choose and not to let others sway me. I think your neighbor was rude and maybe trying to get him some LOL but who cares, if you don't like casual sex, don't do it.
 Chocolatebrowne
Joined: 1/19/2006
Msg: 75
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Posted: 6/8/2008 10:38:42 AM
I guess if you like Russian Roulette, casual sex is okay....I'm not a gambler, but to each his or her own.......I have a standing order at my florist for a special bouquet that I always send to the families of the many people I've known who died from AIDS.
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