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 tinapenny
Joined: 8/30/2010
Msg: 59
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...people who have poisoned senses of entitlement.
Interesting statement, right there. I think you need to ask why does it matter to you so much? And if, like any other obsession, is it negatively affecting your life? Because maybe you could feel better about yourself and find a more comfortable perspective on life if you found the right person to bounce it all off.

Right then...on topic, I dont think it matters who does the asking, but I always take enough money to pay for myself and a taxi ride home. Just in case. My mama told me that
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
Msg: 60
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Posted: 3/22/2012 3:18:34 PM

My comprehension skills are very good actually but then again you did liken women to whores not me.


Which was different to what you were accusing me of earlier.


It is you who is applying the double standard whereas I have kept my standards.


LOL you can't be serious? Care to elaborate?


I suppose you get your kicks out of as you say shaming women who do not pay for you.


You seem to have serious difficulty in comprehending what I've been saying in here. It shows how ummm intelligent you are.

The only women who I shame and they damn right deserve to be shamed are the women who shame men for not paying for their scamming arse and/or the women who play emotional blackmail games with their "pay up or be lonely" stance.

A woman who is willing to pay for her self and not pay for me, I don't see any reason in the world to shame her or have any negative feelings as this is what I exactly want.

This...


Not everything in this world is about getting all you want with little regard for the niceties of social interaction.


And this...


But then again I suppose you must be blessed to know that life owes you something for just existing.


So why doesn't this apply to women? Please come up with a logical and detailed argument to this.

Sorry but it is YOU who is applying the double standard. Yet, people in this thread think a man isn't allowed to call out on it. All men are expected to be silent and deferential and never say a peep.
 Pookiessooverperth
Joined: 1/23/2012
Msg: 61
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Posted: 3/22/2012 5:51:16 PM
Yeah its scarey in here at the moments Caves

Qld Blue - a beautiful post.....if you ever down Mandurah way again...I will happily go on a date with you...we can split a lovely crab meal and a beer...Im happy to pay for it all, or half or even for you to pay !!!- who is paying is irrelevant...the company that one keeps is the important issue and Im sure we would have a enjoyable nite......so mark that date in your calender Qld Blue...a true gentleman....

His just young, angry, full of self importance...and ignorant...pity him...and pity his playmates...even calling them playmates reveals who he truly is !!!
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
Msg: 62
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Posted: 3/22/2012 6:10:03 PM

His just young, angry, full of self importance...and ignorant...pity him...and pity his playmates...even calling them playmates reveals who he truly is !!!


So I am angry with self importance just for pointing out that no one should be obligated to pay up or else be rejected?

Rightio

But the people who I am complaining about don't have a case of self importance, don't they?

Gotta larf
 internetdatinglol
Joined: 5/17/2007
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Posted: 3/22/2012 6:20:06 PM
So uh, how's your bitterness and anger working out in this thre... oh.

ps: "playmates"... jesus christ...
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
Msg: 64
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Posted: 3/22/2012 6:41:41 PM
So let's get this clear, someone is doing wrong, I point out that I disagree with people who do this wrong and this somehow makes me appear angry and bitter.

Wow

I guess every time a woman points out that men are wrong for having entitlement issues with sex, that makes them angry and bitter.

There is totally nothing wrong with using the term "playmates". People in the casual sex world use it all the time. There is nothing derogatory about it. It pretty much means the same as "friends with benefits".

I think now the anti tie_me_up81 crowd in here are in desperation to find ways to invalidate me and are looking for any cheap shot to throw at me such as this one about saying I am bad for using the term "playmate".

It's getting beyond pathetic. They know that they can't invalidate my stance on the “who pays issue” so they look for diversionary attacks instead. They rather attack the person instead of attacking the argument. This is Internetdatinglol's favourite tactic.
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
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Posted: 3/22/2012 6:56:08 PM
> Wow, you must be really enjoying this thread.

> (Just read your profile tie_meup81)

Or shall we say phobia over one's sexuality?
 greyingred
Joined: 6/12/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2012 11:40:59 PM
effervescent, anyone who only paints their toenails is a force to be reckoned with especially when (they like to use brackets). Seems someone else is slightly miffed that there isn't much mention of his proclivities within the forums, not realising that is actually irrelevant to general chit chat and in fact can be a death nell to some other equally interesting but possibly less psychologically damaged individuals.

I ask men out all the time.."Get out!!!" is a common one
 MrsNaamah
Joined: 11/8/2011
Msg: 67
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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:17:32 AM


Your opinion has also evolved to a point of accusing all men who are happy to pay on a date, of being desperado types

ALL men who choose to pay? Please cite this and back up your claim.

Well that’s as easily done as flicking back to page 2, but I can cite it for you if you want…just as soon as you cite where Hilly said that a person has to be married to be happy, or that she wanted to get married. You can’t, of course, because she didn’t say those things, or anything remotely close. Her comment merely indicated that I am obviously not the one on here p1ssing and moaning about the opposite gender, my interactions with others, or my personal life…nor am I the one doling out sweeping blame in order to compensate for some unmet sense of entitlement. In that regard, ‘happily’ was actually the more relevant word in her comment than ‘married’ even though you inexplicably chose to leap on the word married like villagers on a witch.


I don't even want to ever get married..

Cool. I don’t ever want to be a person who takes broad swipes about an entire gender on a forum just to compensate for a sense of dissatisfaction about my personal life. I also don’t ever want to be a Pygmy Marmoset from Brazil, but that’s probably not relevant either.


I am sorry that you have issues with comprehension

^^^Attacking the person instead of attacking the argument. And I gather that every time you take this kind of swipe at another poster, be it about their capacity to attract a partner, their comprehension, or their sexual confidence, that it is meant to make them get defensive? You’ve got people asserting things about themselves all over the place. Please excuse me if I don’t feel the need to. I will say though that when you start to collectively dismiss anyone who disagrees with you on the basis that their comprehension is lacking, it sounds rather impotent. Have you considered that you may be confusing lack of comprehension with lack of agreement?



Anyway, I think you misunderstand the concept of gender equality. It doesn't mean an expectation of men and women becoming identical.


Yes it does.

But I don’t want to have hairy armpits and a penis.


Gender equality means no one has to pay for the other.

That’s quite a narrow definition, revealing a very superficial understanding of the real issues at the heart of gender equality, which are usually focused on concerns somewhat more significant than who pays for drinks.


Do I need to dumb this down for you?

No no. Trust me, what you have presented so far is quite dumb enough thanks.


if he demanded you to cook dinner or else he is pissed with you, this would be a recipe for a battlefield.

Errm… o….k….., but I don’t live my life on the basis of what would be a recipe for a battlefield by holding him responsible for the opinions of other members of his gender. And you clearly missed the point that it is senseless, and ultimately self-destructive, to view someone you do care for (or might care for, if dating) with suspicion, all due to the existence of a particular social viewpoint held by other people entirely, thereby ruining things with that someone by behaving obsessively, and yes, angrily. I was actually trying to suggest a healthier perspective to assist you to not screw up your own opportunities through your own unfettered bitterness. However… I shall save my breath.

In fact, I will happily concede that after reading everything you’ve had to say I have a much clearer picture now, and I am starting to understand that when you say you have to pay women to go out with you… you are probably dead right.
 qldblue
Joined: 2/4/2009
Msg: 68
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:08:34 AM
Tie_ meup81, you stated that men who pay for a date have no spine, so I will ask you the same question you keep asking, validate your statement.

You also stated that guys who pay are desperate, again can you validate that statement?

Such sweeping comments about others who you have not met, do not know and in my case, don't want to know your circumstances.

Personally I think the question of who pays for what and when for dating has been done too death on previous threads and can be seen to result in no final answer that will satisfy the antagonists, so all I can sayto you is take a dessert spoon of concrete and harden the hell up.

Your trolling skills are improving and to get back on topic, I have no problem with women asking guys out and I really don't care who pays but I do decide whether I want to go on a date with a woman who wants to go to a fine dining eatery or not.

Since I have worked in a 5 star hotel casino as a chef then my preference is not to go there in the first place.

I once had a woman ask me over to her home for a meal that this woman was prepared to cook for me, a very brave thing considering what I did.

This lady was surprised when I said Baked Beans on toast with a nice Merlot would be great.

I was over all the fancy meals that one could eat but I very rarely had the simple fare and this meal was as good as any meal that I could have prepared by myself or by my fellow chefs, so the date can be as expensive as you want or as simple as you want, the date doesn't have to be about money it can be about making a great friend.

Oh Pookie, I have pencilled in a day but it might be a couple of years away but I am not a fan of crabs, I think I ate too many as a kid growing up in Fremantle, can we make it prawns instead please.

When I was last over there a great friend's father introduced me to Emu Mid Strength and my friend introduced me to Merlot even tho I do like a good Cab Sav or Shiraz.
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
Msg: 69
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:37:28 AM

Well that’s as easily done as flicking back to page 2, but I can cite it for you if you want


What's the hold up? I am waiting. You just seem to be pointing into thin air.


just as soon as you cite where Hilly said that a person has to be married to be happy


This is what she said:


considering she is happily married and you are...ummm...not.


Firstly, what do you think was the motivation behind her post? Could it be that she made that post in the attempt to make me feel intimidated at the fact that you are married and I am not?

I may have taken this out of context but the way I see it as the way she says it, it means that just because I am not married, I should care and this should bother me.

It seems that she thinks it’s so important to be married, like it’s the be all and end all.


Cool. I don’t ever want to be a person who takes broad swipes about an entire gender


Again, please cite where I am making a broad swipe against an entire gender?

As you said in your other post:


I just object to the position that all women are hookers


I am yet to see the proof with where I said this. Just like I am yet to see the proof where you claim that I said ALL men who choose to pay are desperados.


just to compensate for a sense of dissatisfaction about my personal life.


This has nothing to do with my personal life. This has everything to do with certain people who either have entitlement issues or are desperate. I don’t have these behaviours and I avoid hanging with these people which indicates this has nothing to do with my life.


I will say though that when you start to collectively dismiss anyone who disagrees with you on the basis that their comprehension is lacking, it sounds rather impotent


LOL really? It’s impotent to say people lack comprehension when:

1. They claim that I take broad swipes against an entire gender. But I never did such a thing.

2. They claim that I said all women are hookers when again, I never said such a thing.

3. They claim that I actually said these types of women are labelled hookers. But I never said such a thing, I said they don’t act much different to a hooker.

4. They claim that I said ALL men are desperados who choose to pay. But I never said such a thing.

Still think it’s impotent? It seems that the only thing that’s impotent here are your laughable and ludicrous claims you have against me.


But I don’t want to have hairy armpits and a penis


If that’s your answer when you have it in comparison of paying on dates, using your logic, no one should be offended when someone says women shouldn’t get equal pay in the workplace.


That’s quite a narrow definition


Far from it. Equality doesn’t mean when it only suits you. To only "pick and choose" what areas of equality you want depending on what favours you is being dishonest and self serving.


No no. Trust me, what you have presented so far is quite dumb enough thanks.


So dumb that you haven’t been able to debunk anything I have said.


to view someone you do care for (or might care for, if dating) with suspicion


So I guess this means that I can have the mentality that a woman should give me sex on a date or else it’s a deal breaker.

How many people would see something wrong with this picture? Would people hold suspicions? Would people think I had an ugly sense of entitlement?

If the women who expressed they had a problem with this, I guess this means they are behaving obsessively and angrily just for simply expressing that it shouldn’t be this way.


and I am starting to understand that when you say you have to pay women to go out with you… you are probably dead right.


You are dead wrong. I refuse to have anything to do with such women.

Let’s look at it this way. I would happily pay for a woman on a special occasion once I got to know her more down the track. But when a woman makes it as a deal breaker, that’s what I have a problem with.

Now let’s look at this scenario. A woman is happy to have sex with a guy when the mutual time is right. Not when it’s pressured as for it being a deal breaker. Such like, “have sex with me on this date or else I won’t see you again.”

So why is it okay for a woman to object to sex when it’s being pressured in such a fashion but it’s not okay for a man to object to buying the woman stuff when its pressured in such a fashion?

They are both ugly senses of entitlement. So why is one ugly sense of entitlement acceptable and the man is wrong for objecting it and the other is totally not while its okay for the woman to object it?

In this case from a dating site:

Why should I pay up for a stranger?

Why should a woman spread her legs for a stranger?
 lusta69
Joined: 1/27/2012
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:42:09 AM
the question is WHO UN-TIED U,seriously get a grip mate
 tie_me_up81
Joined: 3/30/2010
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Posted: 3/23/2012 1:52:09 AM
lusta69


seriously get a grip mate


I am sure that line would go well if you told your wife that when she finds out you are screwing chicks from POF behind her back.
 gingerosity
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Posted: 3/23/2012 3:06:05 AM
1....I never did such a thing.
2.... I never said such a thing.
3... I never said such a thing
4... I never said such a thing.


Now that we've established the whole thing is a simple misunderstanding, perhaps we can get back to the topic?

What is the ratio of women asking men out compared to men asking women out? Is it becoming more common? Should it? Why?
 tinapenny
Joined: 8/30/2010
Msg: 73
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Posted: 3/23/2012 3:53:58 AM

What is the ratio of women asking men out compared to men asking women out? Is it becoming more common? Should it? Why?

I dont know what the broad statistics are, and I dont know how you would find them. Perhaps PoF might have some stats on how many of their female members send initial emails vs males. Personally, I feel more comfortable with approaching guys now, especially on email. It seems to be more a society norm than when I was younger. However, starting a conversation is one thing, asking someone out is another, and I dont know that I feel confident about that.

I'm not very big on 'shoulds'. Too many of the things that come under that heading are parental or archaic and not necessarily sensible. I'll give it a go :) ....people should do what feels right for them because being authentically themselves is a good start in finding the right partner.
 Meunow
Joined: 3/1/2012
Msg: 74
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Posted: 3/23/2012 9:35:43 AM
Go 4 it girl, us blokes want u 2 make 1st move.
 nick211088
Joined: 5/7/2011
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Posted: 3/24/2012 5:32:54 AM
he is young therefore knows it all !!!

So now you're using the same blanketing generalisations that you are tearing shreds from TMU over...?
First and foremost, I take great offense to that statement and I seriously question the validity of an opinion from someone who can illustrate so easily how hypocratic one can be subjectively.

As usual, MrsNamaah has been the voice of reason in this farce, though I can see where TMU is kind of coming from, and can see the angle of his arguement.

I tend to agree with a fraction of what he says, that there is indeed a sector of women who WILL hold the mindset that they deserve a free ride. But this is such a sweeping generalisation on a small minority that it renders the arguement null and void. These women (and men for that matter) are easy to spot and even easier to avoid. To call them whores or hookers or perceive them as such is giving them far more credit than they are due... let some poor desperate fool deal with them as you move on to bigger and better things.

Now, as the thread has progressed, and personal feelings have been allowed to influence and indeed become part of the arguement between a few posters, this thread has become a total joke. And all that has been brought to light is how arrogant and blinkered some people can be once they have an idea in their head.

TMU- if you read through the responses very carefully, you’ll see that no-one has been directly having a crack at you to begin with and you have made yourself your own worst enemy... regarding Mrsnamaah especially. In fact, she has been the only one who hasn’t personally attacked you, and has tried to remain a voice of reason and logic... and yet you hone in and attack her like she is vilifying you. A little decorum on your part would be appreciated for her effort.

I hear what you’re saying mate, truly... But you’ve taken a small percentage and applied it as a blanket to the rest of the population. Here’s a different perspective for you to consider;
You’re a youngish man, like me (which does not suggest that stupidity or arrogance plays a part here Pookie)
So let’s say that you’ve met someone (be it on here or elsewhere) and you both want to go out on a date... But she’s a uni student or something. Maybe she just paid a massive bill or something, and she can’t afford to go out with you... meaning that your arguement is brought into play here, as the date cannot go ahead unless you pay (or at least not this week, fortnight... whatever)
So does that mean she falls into the category of one of those women you are trying to bring to the spotlight? Or is she simply a victim of circumstance, and you are in the position to nullify that circumstance?

The OP was in regard to women making the first move regarding going out on a date, and I’m all for it. I find dates are rarely initiated by any one person anyway, but more from a mutual desire to be in each others company.
But I’m just an elitist bumpkin. What would I know?
 internetdatinglol
Joined: 5/17/2007
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Posted: 3/24/2012 7:02:08 AM
I think the mistake we all made in this thread is caring what a guy who has no interest in dating has to say about that very subject.

If there's ever a thread about bloodplay or watersports I'll be all ears for his opinion though.
 AMETHYST666
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Posted: 3/24/2012 5:56:49 PM
me....wait around!? no way - if I am interested in someone - then they know it!! simple! I often ask men out and yes they accept! the days of the female waiting for a man to ask her to dance is well over!!! thank goodness! - but I have always been like that - I find that alot of men are really indecisive too - and I dont have time for indecisions - just get on with it!!
 MrsNaamah
Joined: 11/8/2011
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Posted: 3/26/2012 5:24:25 PM
Oh yeah… this…. bangs head on wall
Lol




But I don’t want to have hairy armpits and a penis


If that’s your answer when you have it in comparison of paying on dates, using your logic, no one should be offended when someone says women shouldn’t get equal pay in the workplace.

*sigh* I was mocking the fact that you said men and women have to be identical in order for equality to exist. Following the actual conversational flow may assist you.


It seems that she thinks it’s so important to be married, like it’s the be all and end all.
Your indignant interpretation and subsequent over the top defensiveness are your own. Don’t try to make them Hilly’s. Look at what you’d said just before she wrote the comment in question…some tough-guy comment telling me that if I didn’t like your viewpoint, then it was tough sh1t for me… (goodness, that really showed me, eh! :laugh:) …as if I would be expected to suffer(?) in some way from you retaining your particular perspective. So it was in response to that where she laughed and used a classically succinct Hillyesque response to convey that I probably wouldn’t care, let alone suffer, no matter what your viewpoint was because it’s hardly likely to have any bearing on me whatsoever given that I am happy with my life (which happens to include being married) …whereas your viewpoint indicates quite a degree of discontent. I assure you, any hangups about marital status are all your own.


What's the hold up? I am waiting.

Gosh I hope you didn’t wait by your computer all weekend. Although if you spent the weekend alone, think of the money you will have saved. :wink:

So, cue music for when they do those ‘back-in-time memory grabs’ on soap operas…
ID said: I for one am pretty comfortable with the default position being that the guy pays.

In your very next post following his you said: That means you have no spine and no respect for your gender. It also means that you are desperate.


So ID puts his hand up as an example of a guy happy to pay on date, and then you say that means he is ‘spineless’ and ‘desperate’. So why would you later expect me to believe that you were not equally applying that same convicted conclusion to all other men who are also happy to pay? Unless you would like to admit that you only meant it to apply to ID for the purpose of baiting/flaming him just because you two don’t get on. The moderators might not like that very much though. Bit of a catch 22 for you really.

Then we had this one…


ID said: If in the future I come across one who doesn't that's also okay as I still go into a date expecting to pay.

In your very next post following his you said: The reality is that I find it hard to feel anger when I am laughing at people such as your self who seem to love double standards due to your desperation in dating. It's not much different than paying a hooker for sex as you are desperate for sex.


So you used the phrase ‘people such as yourself’ in this one (and in the context it appeared, it indicated a reference to all men who, like ID, are happy to pay on dates) and said they were desperate. You also equated them paying for the date with paying for a hooker, thereby clearly having concluded that the women concerned are indeed selling their time and affection for the price of a drink and a meal…as in, not much different to how hookers accept money for sex. So yes, you did indeed accuse all men who are happy to pay on a date of being desperado types who have to pay women to go out with them, and you did indeed assign women the role of hooker. You can deny it til the cows come home crack open a beer and sit down to watch The Simpsons, but it doesn’t alter the fact.

As I wrote in my very first post, “ both chipping in is a perfectly valid concept, but this notion of reducing the dating dynamic to some kind of 'cash for human interaction' basis is laughable.” You are repeatedly arguing with me as if I am in favour of society expecting men to pay, when that is not a belief I hold nor a view that I have expressed. If you actually read my words instead of being so guarded due to an assumption that the world is against you, you’d perhaps see that, and maybe even find your way to stop casting aspersions on everyone over a view that some people may hold. But whilst it is likely that you will still be posting about this for many weeks, months or years to come, I’ve now reached the point of having no further interest in responding to your ongoing rants, having sufficiently reminded myself of why I generally much prefer to participate in discussions about things other than petty dating dramas oozing with damaged egos and festering indignation. It’s just so cringeworthy to watch, but I should have resisted the temptation to try to suggest harmony between genders to anyone who is just not in a place where they can be receptive to it.



Now that we've established the whole thing is a simple misunderstanding, perhaps we can get back to the topic?

:laugh: When exploring attitudes, perceptions and the general climate of dating expectation and gender-associated roles, discussing the issue of who pays is not entirely disconnected from the issue of who asks. Both could be deemed to be a bit of a barometer for current social norms, and exploration of one may well offer insights to the other. Besides, there is so much to be learned from all this, and really,why should those dating be the only ones to benefit from all this wonderful equality…so hubby and I have been looking at adopting this concept in our relationship. Like, we went out to lunch yesterday…it was my suggestion but he decided to pay. So then he said that meant I had to put out…but as I pointed out to him, given the events of the morning, I had in fact, pre-paid. He suggested a debit/credit system, which would necessitate keeping a ledger of course, but our concern is now that if he tries to balance the columns with providing drinks and food, I’m going to end up an alcoholic the size of a shipping container. Also we weren’t sure what meal value to attribute to oral, or whether prepaying should come with an entitlement of more food, or another drink…and given that really, we’ve locked into a contract, possibly there should be some sort of cap in place…and we aren’t sure whether this would be on the food or the sex. This whoring for food is way more complex than I ever suspected so hats off to the purists who do manage to make their personal relationships … “fair”. It must feel, awesome.:laugh:


Regardless…. I’ll close the door on my way out :smile: I certainly don’t want to impede on any subsequent highly engaging and thought-provoking discussion that this topic is likely to inspire. :wink:

 kmac6
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Posted: 3/26/2012 7:08:42 PM
Geez I have been away from the forums for a long time and look what come across.. LOL. I am glad to see that the lady of reason is still about. Good for you Ms Naamah.
 WrogermeWroger
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:41:59 PM
I like to date in graduated steps... like chatting online for a while, then seeing how we get on, and then meeting up after a few weeks.... lots of small steps and safe and sane reflection time between each stage.

It's like living in Africa....

The emotionally healthy people set up a series tall fences and progressively lower them as the questions are asked and the proof or viability is provided.
This is called a "healthy style of relationship building".

The lunatic fringe simply swing the gates wide open and take whatever comes running in....
This is called "an addictive style of relationship building".

I have had a few women contact me out of the blue - and they never respond to my greetings, they show no initiative and make no effort to communicate, and after a month or two, they contact me out of the blue telling me that they want to meet - without so much as even having said "Hi" before hand.

I call these "little red flags" or "what you see is what you get - and you had better believe it.", because BAD openings to relationships, are a pretty damned good indicator that the person has REALLY BAD relationship skills. And if relationships have BAD starts, with people who have BAD relationship skills, generally all you are going to get is a BAD relationship... QED.

As one of my advisors said, "As far as I am concerned lots of little problems are as bad as one big problem". As I am inclined to point out, "As far as I am concerned, lots of little red flags, are the same as one big red flag".

One of the women who did the "out of the blue, under the radar" contacts with NO prior reciprocation or communication - I looked at her profile and she had a HARD face, no smiling in her pictures, she has NO laughter lines on her face, her eyes are not smiley, she drinks more than 3 times a week... and she looks like a serial killer.

And the drinking, is that a glass of red with dinner 3 times a week or is that 3 flagons of cheap fortified wine, 3 times a week?

Her style is a "Gates wide open" with NO Pre-Screening, or communication - and that is just inviting trouble.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:17:40 PM
If women live in a age where they can work like a man, have the same rights as a man, go out and party without men, then they can bloody well ask men out as well.

I cant stand how women want all the 'male' rights yet still expect to be treated like they are still in last century due to biological automatic programming.
 gingerosity
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Women asking Men out
Posted: 4/4/2012 2:22:35 AM
Hey Razza, help me out here... is there something specific about their position on the subject that you're objecting to, or is it just a general inter-personal thing thats got you going? I can't really see where all this is coming from. Are you just generally venting or are you making a point about women asking men out?
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Women asking Men out
Posted: 4/4/2012 2:36:09 AM
I imagine he's an existing member who has re-registered in order to troll.

His old profile was probably being ignored, hence his bolting out of the "for the love of god NOTICE ME" gates so quickly.
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