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 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Notice where these two live.......That is right they can't even vote in the elections....They are not even US citizens.
Do you know that for sure?

I lived in Germany for 10 years and still voted in every single election. I have not missed voting in 45 years.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 102
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 5:19:35 PM

By the way, you still haven't answered what has President Obama done that would make you think he is a socialist? And in your words, don't copy and paste anything.

Show us you can think.


Obozo care is a big socialist program. Illegal as well and SCOTUS will be showing that soon.

He has already started the redistribution of wealth....His words not mine.

Even his new campaign slogan is a old socialist battle cry/mantra.....


Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name "Forward!" or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called "Forward (generic name of socialist publications)."

"The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications," the online encyclopedia explains.


This is from the Washington times. Notice it mentions Wikipedia also so this should qualify as one of your approved sources.

I also used my own words on this the source I felt was needed so you wouldn't claim I made it up.

Plus I don't take orders from a weak minded liberal such as yourself.

Get real google "Obama socialism" You get 3,270,000 hits.

If you think most Americans doesn't think obozo is not a socialist I have a bridge I need to sell you!
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 103
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:03:12 PM

The Patient and Affordable Care Act is not socialist. What you have now is almost socialist. What you have now is the people who buy insurance paying for those who don't. If someone shows up at an emergancy room the hospital is obligated to treat them And who pays for that? All the insurance paying public thats who. The freeloaders who don't pay anything get off without paying for their care. Under the Affordable Care Act there will be no more freeloaders. Everyone will have to pay their way. And the public will not have to pay for their care which is kind of socialist. Which is what you don't like, right?


The public won't have to pay?


The gross costs of the national healthcare law rammed through Congress by President Barack Obama will reach an estimated $1.76 trillion over 10 years – nearly twice the amount originally projected.

The figure, which the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) revealed on Wednesday, is bound to cause embarrassment to the administration as it comes just as debate on “Obamacare” is starting to heat up again, two weeks before the Supreme Court is set to hear arguments on whether the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional.


I think that covers your claim the public won't have to pay.

The taxpayers will be paying for every ones care.........Sounds like socialism to me.


Thats it? The word "Forward" means he is a socialist? I guess that means since Mitt Romney isn't a socialist he should you the word "Backwords" as a slogan. I can see it now. "Vote for Mitt so he can take you backwords"
Ya, works for me. Come on now really.

President Obama has been in office now over 3 years. Surely he has done something really socialistic, like nationalized an industry or two. Come on tell me where the socialism is. If it is obvious to you have half the American population there must be a whole wack of socialized industries out there. Can you show me just a few?


I listed more than that you just don't want to address them. As I said there are over three million hits for the socialism of obozo on google.

You are already in your socialist utopia. Why does it bother you that Americans don't want a socialist country.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 104
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:16:21 PM

As I said there are over three million hits for the socialism of obozo on google.


Yes, there are over 3 million non-reading, high school equivelent, or less, educated FOX viewers out there.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 105
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:22:09 PM

Yes, there are over 3 million non-reading, high school equivelent, or less, educated FOX viewers out there.


Another liberal bashing people when they have no debate stance. I thought liberals were the tolerant ones. HUMMMMM?
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 106
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:31:32 PM
Let me get this straight...

You actually think that mentioning there is a lot of nonsense on the internet warranted a different response?

Obama has been a very right wing President by any standard. He's way farther right than Nixon was and he was the hard right choice in my lifetime. He's just not a lunatic radical extremist, unlike his critics on the right.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 107
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:41:34 PM

Obama has been a very right wing President by any standard.


Maybe if you are already a socialist but when you live in a free country that the government is not controlling your life at every turn then he is seen as the furthest left president we have ever had.



He's way farther right than Nixon was and he was the hard right choice in my lifetime. He's just not a lunatic radical extremist, unlike his critics on the right.


This just doesn't meet the threshold of true enough to even respond to.

Now I have to clean the coffee I spewed through my nose laughing at your post onto my computer screen......Thanks!
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 108
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 6:48:47 PM

when you live in a free country that the government is not controlling your life at every turn then he is seen as the furthest left president we have ever had.

And apparently you live in Narnia, judging by your magical thinking. But don't you have an evil Ice Queen there who rules?
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 109
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 7:10:33 PM

I am confused


Yes you are they are not as similar as you think.


Medicare
ObamaCare cuts a half-trillion dollars from Medicare over the next decade. These cuts are unsustainable and will lead to a reduction in the quality of care for seniors who rely on the program to secure access to needed medical services. The cuts in Medicare Advantage will impose steep costs on millions of Medicare beneficiaries, and will fall disproportionately on low income and minority seniors.


I don't think Romney care cut medicare funding.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 110
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 7:54:17 PM
Thank you for pointing out that Obamacare will cut the defecit by 1/2 trillion dollars.


Not really.......the CBO shows it costing double what is was claimed to be costing at the time of it being rammed trough what they knew was going to be a lame duck congress.


The gross costs of the national healthcare law rammed through Congress by President Barack Obama will reach an estimated $1.76 trillion over 10 years – nearly twice the amount originally projected.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Obamacare's Gross Costs Double to $1.76 Trillion, CBO Projects
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!


So while obozo cut medicare benefits by a half trillion his new illegal law is going to cost 1.76 trillion.

That seems to be a 1.26 trillion increase.



No radical Republican worth their salt likes Medicare.


I am a libertarian actually but normally vote for the GOP as they are the much lesser of the two evils of the two party's that actually have a chance of winning.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 111
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/19/2012 8:20:48 PM

I am a libertarian


LMAO
 Neopoli
Joined: 3/1/2011
Msg: 112
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/20/2012 8:28:41 AM

The gross costs of the national healthcare law rammed through Congress by President Barack Obama will reach an estimated $1.76 trillion over 10 years – nearly twice the amount originally projected.


The statement is true. The projections are DOUBLE the original projections touted by the administration 2 years ago. A $940 billion pricetag over 10 years was loudly proclaimed & ramrodded through the media via the White House press room in 2010.


CBO: $940 Billion Health Care Bill Would Trim Deficit Over Next Decade

March 18, 2010 at 1:08 PM EDT

President Obama's health care reform bill would cost $940 billion over ten years and reduce the federal deficit by $138 billion over the same time period while expanding health insurance coverage to 95 percent of the population, according to an estimate released Thursday by the Congressional Budget Office.

The highly anticipated CBO report could set the stage for a House vote on the bill as early as Sunday. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Thursday that President Obama will delay a planned trip to Indonesia yet again in order to be present for the final health care reform negotiations. The president was set to leave Sunday morning on the trip, but he'll now wait until June.

According to the CBO, the final bill would cost $940 billion over ten years, which is more than the original Senate bill would have cost.

And Democratic leaders declared themselves thrilled with the cost estimate.

"We are absolutely giddy over the great news," said party whip Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/03/cbo-says-health-reform-bill-would-reduce-deficits-by-138-billion-obama-delays-trip-for-final-negotia.html

So what you are now claiming is that we were lied to, or at least duped & fooled in order to garner support for the lower but misleading 2010 dollar figure?

NEWS UPDATE: As of yesterday, my monthly insurance premium increased by $121, thanks to this so-called "health care reform", which seems to only benefit high-profit hospitals, overpaid doctors, nurses, & everyone else who rapes the system at the expense of the rest of us.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/20/2012 1:43:19 PM

NEWS UPDATE: As of yesterday, my monthly insurance premium increased by $121, thanks to this so-called "health care reform", which seems to only benefit high-profit hospitals, overpaid doctors, nurses, & everyone else who rapes the system at the expense of the rest of us.
I'd like to see a link to prove that allegation.

I'm looking forward to qualifying for PPACA ... at least then I'll only be paying according to my income and at the rate I'm going to get Social Security ... I'll hardly have to pay anything. Right now, I pay almost 1/2 my income for premiums and medications ... my employer does not offer us any benefits ... not even holiday pay. They will not allow us to work overtime either.

Romney made sure Massachusetts had health care ... why is he now against it?
 Neopoli
Joined: 3/1/2011
Msg: 114
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/20/2012 3:55:03 PM
I'll stick to the CBO report...thanks.


The ACA's (Affordable Care Act) provisions related to insurance coverage are now projected to have a net cost of $1,252 billion over the 2012-2022 period," says the CBO report. "[T]hat amount represents a gross cost to the federal government of $1,762 billion, offset in part by $510 billion in receipts and other budgetary effects (primarily revenues from penalties and other sources)


http://cbo.gov/publication/43080

Your "revised" figure represents a figure that is fudged by a budgetary line-item insertion of an ESTIMATED PROJECTED return. Actual upfront cost is $1.76 trillion....at least.

TRANSLATION: You give me (at least)$1.76 trillion over 10 years, , I MAY(or may not) give you back up to $510 billion in small random allotments. Good deal!!!


Only next year will we get a true ten-year cost estimate, if the law isn't overturned by the Supreme Court or repealed by then," writes Philip Klein at the Washington Examiner. "Given that in 2022, the last year available, the gross cost of the coverage expansion are $265 billion, we're likely looking at about $2 trillion over the first decade, or more than double what Obama advertised.


http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:48:40 PM
OMG ... now he's flipping around like a fish out of water with the Hispanics down in Florida.

Quick ... someone kick him in the water so he can just roll from side to side instead of the flip-flopping.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 116
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/23/2012 2:47:41 PM
CBS poll shows Romney ahead of obozo.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57434153-503544/poll-romney-has-slight-edge-over-obama/


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/05/romney-leads-obama-in-latest-poll.html


Remember November 6th is fire the liberals/socialists day.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:07:14 PM

Still waiting on those examples from one particularily prolific poster by the way.

Lets talk about Mitt Romneys tax returns or lack there of same. How come he was willing to reveal 10 years worth when he was being vetted by McCain back in 2008 and will only release one now?

Got to be something he is hiding something else besides his 15% tax rate which I bet is lower than everyone else on this board.
Indeed ... we're all still waiting!!

Someone send Mittens an Oxygen mask and Condenser ... he's needing it at this point after his encounter with the Hispanics in Florida.

Does he really think they are impressed with his bank account? They need jobs just as badly as we do and they need answers about immigration ... and he's not supplying answers ... just excuses.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 118
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/24/2012 12:29:56 PM
Indeed ... we're all still waiting!


I have posted plenty there is over three millions hits on the net for obozo and his socialism.

You people wouldn't admit he was socialist even if he had the army goose stepping across the national mall with banners of obozo hanging from all the building just like Stalin had in the USSR.


Does he really think they are impressed with his bank account? They need jobs just as badly as we do and they need answers about immigration ... and he's not supplying answers ... just excuses.


Well then what is obozo's excuse he himself said he would have to have this economy turned around by now or he would be a one term president.

The American people are going to hold him to his word come Nov. 6th!
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 119
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/24/2012 6:33:28 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/22/504690/romney-doesnt-dispute-he-helped-send-jobs-overseas-tells-press-to-call-it-offshoring-not-outsourcing/

The Washington Post reported today that Bain Capital, the private equity firm Mitt Romney headed for 15 years, invested extensively in companies that moved jobs overseas to low-wage countries like China. The practice contradicts the rhetoric of candidate Romney, who since announcing his presidential ambitions, has criticized government policies that have led to jobs, particularly those in manufacturing, moving offshore.
Rather than dispute the substance of the article, the Romney campaign has responded to the Post piece by parsing words, claiming that the story is “fundamentally flawed” for not differentiating between the technical definitions of “outsourcing” and “offshoring”:


Let me get this right Clinton opens the door to offshoring by signing NAFTA into law and it is Romney's fault a investment company he owned invested in companies that took advantage of the law Clinton passed.

Now just how does it make sense to blame a company that invests in companies to make money for using a law a Dimacrat passed.

Seems to me that Clinton is the one to blame here.

Wasn't NAFTA passed under Clinton in 1993?
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 120
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/24/2012 7:14:25 PM
I'm not going to do the research, but Mexico's entry into NAFTA came years after the original signing of NAFTA between Canada and the US. An election was fought in this country mostly over the issue of NAFTA in the 80's, so it was a much bigger issue here than it was in the States. At least back when it was being negotiated.
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 121
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/25/2012 12:43:33 PM

You should check a globe.... CHINA is NOT part of NORTH AMERICAN

CANADA, USA AND MEXICO ARE NORTH AMERICAN

NAFTA stands for NORTH AMERICAN TRADE ASSOCIATION.


Then you should take a remedial English course.

I said opened the door to off shoring.

That means it was the trigger for it.

So your point is moot.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 122
Mitt Romney
Posted: 6/25/2012 12:58:56 PM

Let me get this right Clinton opens the door to offshoring by signing NAFTA into law and it is Romney's fault a investment company he owned invested in companies that took advantage of the law Clinton passed.

How did Clinton open the door to off shoring by signing the NAFTA agreement?

What part of the legislation are you referring to?
 laughingatliberals
Joined: 10/11/2011
Msg: 123
Mitt Romney
Posted: 7/1/2012 8:04:44 PM

How did Clinton open the door to off shoring by signing the NAFTA agreement?




The data and summation herein provided seem to indicate a huge success in partner trade between the NAFTA country-members, however, many critics are not so merry-and-jolly about the free trade agreement. Most blames the huge loss of jobs, as U.S. companies outsource and ship jobs to Mexico, Latin America and South East Asia as a result of this liberalized trade agreement. “Debate a decade ago over the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, drew loud warnings that liberalized trade with Mexico would lead to huge job losses in the U.S. Trade with Mexico has soared since NAFTA's debut in 1994, but recent studies have concluded that the U.S. did lose more jobs in various industries than it gained because of the pact” (Wall Street Journal, December 8, 2008).

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: NAFTA, the Good, the Best, and the Ugly for the Americas | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/nafta-good-best-and-ugly-americas#ixzz1zQknIGwX



This is how Clinton opened the door.
 Aristotle_Amadopolis
Joined: 12/8/2011
Msg: 124
Mitt Romney
Posted: 7/3/2012 6:16:14 AM
So you ready for this, Romney, who is Pro-Life, was the baby-killing disposal business (literally)?

That's gold, Jerry! Gold!



Old Mitt’s Investment in a Fetus-Disposal Company Is Not a Great Thing for New Mitt
By Dan Amira

That Bain Capital investment in Stericycle, a medical-waste company that helps to dispose of aborted fetuses? When Huffington Post reported on it earlier this year, Bain officials insisted that Mitt Romney, the currently pro-life Republican presidential candidate, had already left Bain when it happened, in 1999. But a trove of financial filings uncovered by Mother Jones appears to show the very opposite:

The SEC filing lists assorted Bain-related entities that were part of the deal, including Bain Capital (BCI), Bain Capital Partners VI (BCP VI), Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors (a Bermuda-based Bain affiliate), and Brookside Capital Investors (a Bain offshoot). And it notes that Romney was the "sole shareholder, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of BCI, BCP VI Inc., Brookside Inc. and Sankaty Ltd."

The document also states that Romney "may be deemed to share voting and dispositive power with respect to" 2,116,588 shares of common stock in Stericycle "in his capacity as sole shareholder" of the Bain entities that invested in the company ...

Another SEC document filed November 30, 1999, by Stericycle also names Romney as an individual who holds "voting and dispositive power" with respect to the stock owned by Bain.


For someone who wasn't involved at all in the Stericycle investment, Romney's name sure shows up on a lot of Stericycle-related documents! Because back in 1999, there would have been no reason for Romney to not invest in the fetus-disposal industry. After all, abortion is legal, aborted fetuses exist, and whatever Stericycle does with them — turns them into bicycles, we're guessing? — is probably better than tossing them in a dump somewhere. Plus, Romney was a pro-choice, soon-to-be governor of Massachusetts, where the state motto is literally "Abortions: Ain't Nothin' Wrong With That!" He was probably focused more on the millions upon millions of dollars the investment would net him, and not how awkward it would make life for New Mitt. But Old Mitt had a way of being selfish like that.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/romney-invested-in-a-fetus-disposal-company.html
 unYOUsual
Joined: 8/11/2011
Msg: 125
Mitt Romney
Posted: 7/3/2012 10:00:24 AM
Maybe he "evolved" you know like Obama allegedly has...
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