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 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 26
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Dillon was a malcontent as well... he must have "haunted" the Pats huh????

Oh yeah, Bryan Cox wasn't all that classy of a player, come to think of it...

The Pats will be fine.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 27
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 4:06:39 PM
"moss was a talent a few years ago. i saw him "play" for the raiders and if he could still do it he would have. he'll get single coverage all year long and no coverage at all across the middle."

I would be fine if he is simply used as a decoy... that would be worth a 4th round pick.
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 28
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 5:40:46 PM
When the season is over I am going to start a thread about how wrong everybody was about Moss........
 slysterling
Joined: 1/9/2007
Msg: 29
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/29/2007 6:03:35 PM
well make sure you put the word NASCAR in the title
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 30
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/30/2007 6:34:35 AM
The one whom laughs last, laughs best..........
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 31
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/31/2007 8:21:51 PM
Rodney Harrison goofed.....Positive for steriods and out for 4 game suspension. I'm not too happy about this because I think he is a great leader for the Patriots, but because of this I hoping it doesn't affect the morale on the team.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 32
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 8/31/2007 8:43:37 PM
Hgh ISN'T steroids... fwiw. He used it for injury recovery. However, the NFL does ban the use of it.

At least he didn't lie about it... like so many other pro players do.

It stinks, but, I heard he was still injured anyways... oh well.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 33
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:38:50 AM
supid?

He is one of the "sartest" players in the NFL.

He wanted to heal up faster... and it came back to bite him.
 slysterling
Joined: 1/9/2007
Msg: 34
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:43:59 AM

"It is exciting and it's good to feel the love," Moss said then, "but, at the same time, we have a job to do and we need to concentrate and focus on what we have to do on the field."

..."Who doesn't want the ball?" Moss said on his first day of training camp. "I think that just makes us as a whole unit, all of the skill positions, work a little harder

That talent, still evident at age 30, gives the Patriots a dangerous deep threat and often brings double teams. He said he won't be bothered if he's a decoy opening up space for other receivers. In the past, he's complained about not getting the ball enough

Belichick did his homework before trading for Moss, who was fined $10,000 for the mooning - something Green Bay fans have done to opponents' team buses.
"I've talked to a lot of people that were close to him, both teammates and coaches," Belichick said. "They have a lot of respect for him. I have a lot of respect for him."

His first coach with Oakland also spoke highly of Moss when he was traded there.
"We're so happy to have him and we'll know how to use him," Norv Turner said before the Raiders started the season 0-3.

"I think he's a good guy," Raiders offensive lineman Barry Sims said. "I think he's misunderstood in a lot of ways. I think we're better without him. I think he's better without us, and just leave it at that

That change worked for Corey Dillon. He was considered a malcontent in Cincinnati, but was a trouble-free player who led the Patriots in rushing each of the last three seasons before retiring.
Will Moss follow in Dillon's footsteps - or his own?

"Will those what-ifs ever come to be true or not? You don't know," Bruschi said. "We just take it one day at a time, but ever since he's come into this facility, Randy Moss, he's done nothing but work hard and put the team first."



Will playing on a team picked by many as a solid Super Bowl contender keep him in line?
Will his new, no-nonsense coach and the veteran leaders who demand players to be accountable get in his face if he takes plays off, as he has in the past?
So far, coach Bill Belichick and his teammates have voiced no complaints. They say Moss works hard, studies his playbook and keeps them laughing. When he's gotten on the field, he's shown the speed, hands and leaping ability that made him one of the NFL's top receivers

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/2007/09/01/4463554-ap.html

Obviously the jury's still out with the season starting next week. I have utmost respect for Belichik's ability of handling and assessing personnel. Who knows. Maybe you can change the spots on a leopard. I think if the Pats do well, Moss will do well. if the Pats sputter, Moss will too.

Moss is not a positive attitude guy when the chips are down. When all's going well he's got plenty of talent. But when he's losing, he's a cancer. I'll give Belichik the benefit of the doubt on this one and say this could wind up being the best offseason move made by any club.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 35
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 11:49:55 AM
He was a ref during the NFL Europa for one thing... you have to be fairly with it to be one.
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 36
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 3:33:40 PM
It takes a man to admit that he is wrong, which Harrison did. If I can remember correctly, Merriman was in denial and filed a grievance against the NFL. Which we all know he could not win and was suspended for 4 games.
 vrobx
Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 37
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 4:32:41 PM
"Moss is not a positive attitude guy when the chips are down. When all's going well he's got plenty of talent. But when he's losing, he's a cancer."

The truest statement made on this thread about Moss. That's where the verdict on Moss will be given. When...and it will happen to the Patriots and every other team in the NFL...when the Patriots face some adversity, how will that play out? That's one of the main reasons the Pats team has held solid for 6 years now. Their ability to handle adversity. Hell, they already have a start with the Rodney Harrison incident. The question is, when adversity strikes on the field, will the Patriots be able to pull Moss up...or will he drag them down?

In the parity era of the NFL, the days of Any Given Sunday truer than ever. The difference between the Lombardi Trophy and the first pick in the draft is not talent-wise. It's attitude. Confidence. Preparation. Case in point: The last team the Colts lost to last year was the Houston Texans. I may be in the minority in believing this and maybe I am dead wrong (and maybe that's why I don't have a job as an NFL personelle director), but I believe the raw talent some players bring is no longer worth the headaches their bad attitudes produce.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 38
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/1/2007 8:03:58 PM
I'm much more upset that Seymour is out for 6 friggin weeks due to another injury... what is he, a china doll?

Maybe he needs some hgh... just kidding ;-)

I guess Jarvis Green will suffice.
 markes018
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 39
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/2/2007 9:13:31 AM
I believe the Patriots are a solid contender for the Lombardi, but so are several other teams, and a sleeper or two will step forward. The most important thing for the Patriots, IMO, will be the week to week approach to the game. The Pats are among the best at concentrating upon the task at hand, without worrying about next week, or what the Colts are doing to the team they are playing that day. They have decent depth this year, and better offensive production should really help a strong, solid defense that has some age issues at some spots.
Moss will be ready, and he will be productive. Watch Welker, though, if you want to see some real excitement over the middle!
It will be fun!
 markes018
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 40
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/2/2007 2:18:22 PM
I humbly, but firmly, disagree....
 Anazdaddy
Joined: 7/12/2007
Msg: 41
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/2/2007 10:02:31 PM
More adversity a week before the season starts..Richard Seymourhas been placed in the physically unable to perform list..may miss first 4-6 weeks of the season.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 42
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 12:44:23 AM
"More adversity a week before the season starts..Richard Seymourhas been placed in the physically unable to perform list..may miss first 4-6 weeks of the season. "

I just said that in my last post...
 eman07
Joined: 6/30/2006
Msg: 43
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 12:54:24 AM
well.....

all i have heard the past 6 years is how the pats dont have any superstars and can win with the whole "team concept" .

dont worry you got that grea team leader in rodney harrison...err..wait a minute...

oh thats right..you have randy moss!!!...err..wait...

as you can tell pats fans....I feel REALLY REALLY sorry for you....

GO BRONCOS
 markes018
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 44
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 6:30:33 AM
It didn't come as a great shock to me that Seymour went to the PUP list. He hasn't practiced in some time. It also isn't a shock that Moss did NOT go on PUP, indicating he may be ready to go, or he is pretty close.
The early part of the Pat's schedule is challenging. It will be interesting to watch how they adjust and handle the pressure. If they come through while some guys heal up, it could be quite a season.
 wizardofossington
Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 45
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 11:00:18 AM
Patriots have been in this situation many times before with players unable to play. We still managed to win games, so I'm not worry not even a little bit.

Broncos

Patriots
 markes018
Joined: 4/18/2006
Msg: 46
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 1:25:45 PM
"what week will moss be ready to play? not this week."

Moss practiced in full pads today.....so did Asante Samuel. (humble bow....)
 slysterling
Joined: 1/9/2007
Msg: 47
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 1:47:13 PM
yep. Moss is apparently ready to go for the opener.
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 48
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 3:36:39 PM
"GO BROKEBACKS"

Tell Daniel Graham hello...
 AvidArteest
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 49
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 3:45:56 PM
Even Jason Taylor is questioning the Fish front office for trading for Trent Green... "he is one big hit away from retirement."
 vrobx
Joined: 2/18/2006
Msg: 50
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 9/3/2007 4:42:07 PM
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP) -- The New England Patriots released Reche Caldwell, their leading receiver from last season, on Monday, when offseason addition Randy Moss and cornerback Asante Samuel returned to practice.

Well, looks like they are going Moss or bust for sure now. I know Wes Welker is there too and all but Caldwell was their leading receiver last year....this is a mistake just dying to happen...
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