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 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 701
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Go hire a hooker if you are that hard up.

an underaged hooker?'re bad!
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 702
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 12:19:44 AM

Any man that states he has slept with anyone under the age of 20 past his 25th birthday is off my list.
You're probably too old for him anyway.
Joined: 1/1/2007
Msg: 703
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 1:34:08 AM

This is going to seem funnie because although i am 21 and i know it is rong because she is so young being 16 and all i told her how i feel and i told her that i would never touch her till she's 19 and i told her that if were really serious that when she becomes of age i will be here for her and i told her i had no problem waiting for her for three years because what my morals tell me is that 15 and 21 looks bad to soca couiety and when you tell some one that it's like 19 and 24 don't seem to bad and people can except but now what makes me mad is people will now take that girl who waited three years to be with her boy friend ( she save's her self for 3 years for him keep in mind) and now get's labled as a slut thats not right if you really love some one you don't rob them of there virginity when there so young instead if you love them you just be there for them as support and comfort and some one to talk to and thats it if you still feel the same in three years that minor that you were oh so crazy about just became a wife because you never violated her and HAD RESPECT for her when she was younger !!!!!

i do belive in love and at that age you crazy if you think they know what that word means and yes there are sick fuc*ers out there that get off from takeing avantage of minors and all i have to say is they deserve to be SHOT ****ED AND PISSED ON !!! so all in all if she means that much wait the couple years you'll thank ur self and she will have a greater RESPECT for you !!

sincerly yours: Adrian Hamilton
Joined: 1/1/2007
Msg: 704
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 1:47:30 AM
alright one of my ex's was 16 and cheated on me with a 30 year old so try that out for nasty. This is going to happen no matter what we say or do this is the age of tomaro people except it society is FU*KED up i think that as soon as your mature enought to understand the risk of gettin preganut your good and if you fail to protect your self you had better start looking to god for help because you'll get no sympathe from your peers espically because of the age gap and now i belive in that case that guy better learn how to become a man because now he has TWO kids to take care of lol
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 705
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 2:01:21 AM
My GOD! Your spelling is terrible for a book merchant. Anyway, is it wrong because society deems it wrong? Or is it wrong because you feel it is wrong? If you truly love someone, would something as unimportant as age and society tell you otherwise?

If you let society dictate the matters of your heart, how true is your love then?
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 706
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 3:26:28 AM
sex with minors whether or not it is legal is unsatisfactory.

the physical development (no matter what the outside looks like) is not ready for sex. the emotional development is not ready for sex and the rational development is not ready for sex. I would go so far to say that the last two lack of developments are obvious in some 25 yo.

so leave it as long as possible. and if your looking at people younger than yourself for sex then your emotional and rational development needs longer to mature
Joined: 9/18/2007
Msg: 707
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 3:53:08 AM
that sam I am....

I AM too old for anyone that age but they still contact me. I should up my age requirements... but can't be bothered.

Too bad there isn't a maturity filter.
Joined: 2/4/2008
Msg: 708
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 9:45:30 AM
People must be that damn horney, who can blame them, right? I'll skip the legal talk, what you could do is become a mid evil mother for a minute, start up a conversation with your daughter that leads to a question of what she thinks about your next door neighbor who may be 40 years old, or 20 years old, and based on those man characters, and personality as you know best, then you can judge whether or not she is smart or willing to experiment, if she is, well then, extra, extra thik condoms work best. Being too protective will make her hate you in the future, so I would if something goes wrong get mid evil on perhaps the man she sees, if their doing something they should not be doing, that's also depending on the age.

I can't believe I just gave advise on here...
Joined: 7/19/2007
Msg: 709
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 1:36:17 PM
"I'm fairly certain you're going to get lynched for that entire post, but I have to say I still agree with myself."

Well like I said, I fully expected people to start kicking and screaming. People are bringing up wild scenarios of taking advantage and moving on, sexual assault, abuse, and any number of things we aren't even talking about in this thread.

I quoted you because coming from me, a 24 year old male, people can go for the personal attack instead of bringing up any valid points. It's a cheap-shot that makes it look like they have an argument on the surface, when really they're just full of hot air.

When the truth comes straight out of someone like you, it's far more powerful.

Biology's also a major factor. Everyone wants to stop everyone else from having sex, but wants to have as much sex as *they* want to have. Age, status, race, religion... people will use whatever convenient excuse they can to argue that two people (not themselves) should not be having sex.

Charles Darwin for the win!

"Our society doesn't allow teenagers to make their own choices until their late teens and sometimes into their 20s, depending on the exact dynamics. How can anybody expect teenagers to make proper decisions if nobody will LET them make them? I know one major hot button with my parents five years ago was that they expected me to be able to make responsible decisions, but all the while refused to actually let go of the reins and let me make the damn decisions myself. It drove me mad. You can't treat a person like a child and then get mad when they act like one."

Preaching to the choir, for sure!

"Society" isn't a constant, though. Families are different.

Story time!:

An old friend since first grade (Friend "A") had the most controlling, interfering mother in the world. Even in his teen years she was arranging "play dates", had a bed time, couldn't be out with girls later than 11pm... he wasn't even allowed to open the microwave without using a paper towel! Fingerprints smudge the chrome, don't you know? In terms of at-home sex-ed he was kept in the dark, and what he learned he must've gotten from school and internet porn.

Compare to friend "B", an old kayaking buddy from way back. His parents required him to participate in a sport or activity of his choice, required that he excel in school but the courses/programs he took were his choice, they put him through driver's training at age 15 and made him get his license at age 16. He was then expected to act as a full participant in sharing the vehicles of the household, giving his mother a ride to work, picking people up, running errands, etc. He was given a quality sex education about risks, realities, and it was left up to him to make the responsible choice.

Friend "A" first had sex in the 9th grade, and dumped the girl soon after. He's now a drug dealer and his romantic life involves getting a random girl drunk at the bar and taking her home. I no longer associate with this 25 year old BOY.

Friend "B" first had sex in university with a girlfriend he'd been dating for several months. They stayed together for nearly two years after. He's now finishing up his advanced degree in languages at the U of A, and is in the process of getting into CSIS. Currently dating an older woman (26) he's been with for over three years. This 22 year old MAN is one of my best friends.

(If you'd noticed, yes they started dating when he was 19 and she was 23.)

Now, blanket statements like "anyone under 20 is a child!" is ridiculous and is no better than stating, "everyone of ethnicity X is a gang member and welfare parasite!"

When a 17 year old commits murder, the community cries out that they be tried as adults.
When a 17 year old wants to have sex in a long-term, committed relationship, people cry, "child!"

When I was 22, I met a very interesting young woman through a mutual friend. We got to talking and made arrangements to meet. Had a few dates. Got along amazingly well. She was up on current events, was passionate about her interests and could explain them very well. The topic of drinking came up and I'd said I'd made the decision not to drink anymore. She said she didn't drink either. I ask, "Why?" She says, "Oh. I'm only 17."

My heart sank. Arrow through the chest.

Stupid me, I thought "what would everyone else think?" I also allowed a little number get in the way of what obviously was turning into a good relationship. I regret it to this day, but I abandoned ship.

I caught up with her about two years later (me, 24 and her, 19) and decide to see if I could rekindle something, but it was too late.

She was engaged.

This is when I realized how wrong my beliefs about age had been. Here I thought that age 17 must be too young for me to date (despite our fantastic connection), yet at age 19 she's decided to get married to her 22 year old boyfriend... who she started dating after me.

From now on so far as I am concerned, age does not exist. I don't ask unless she brings it up. If there's chemistry and compatibility, that's all that matters.

- Christopher93
Joined: 1/18/2008
Msg: 710
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 2:38:56 PM
Taal~ In Canada, where I have lived y whole life, the age of consent is 14 yes but the other party must be under 18 or it is statotory rape. A couple of consenting 14 year olds can have sex but a consenting 14 year old cannot have sex with a 19 year old legally wether it was consentual or not.
 vinny low
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 711
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Posted: 2/7/2008 3:07:49 PM
christopher93.....i like your post very much and i can totally relate to what you said and i agree with you. our society however would deem you to be a predator and its ironic how her parents would be more ok with her dating a knife weilding gang banger wanna be her own age like all teenage males are today than her dating you (seeing as youre an old old man and obviously a predator right?) fu ckin society.
Joined: 11/29/2007
Msg: 712
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 8:52:18 PM
Im 22 and currently in a serious relationship with a 16 year old..

I see nothing wrong with it... some do... most dont!

Its all about how the older person acts... I mean yea there is the stereotype " hes just after her because shes an easy target." I have and never will pressure her into anything. I have made it clear that she not feel that just because I have been sexually active in the past that she has to fill in that gap for me.

There is a lot of conditions here... it makes it a tough subject. If you feel your daughter(maybe son) is prone to giving in to quickly or caving under peer pressure then no you shouldn't let them date. In my case Im a good guy(I think?) and she knows what she is comfortable with and what she isnt

The main thing here is people (including the OP) automatically assume there is going to be sex in the relationship! you shouldn't assume that even with an adult relationship let alone one that is as tender as that.
Joined: 11/29/2007
Msg: 713
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 8:59:16 PM
second reply to the post of " shouldn't sleep with men over 20 if you are under 20"

I lost my virginity when I was 16, to my girlfriend of 6 months who was 15...

Do I think it was to soon? No, we truly believed its what we wanted, and it was! My current girlfriend turning 17 this year... would I sleep with her if I truly believed she was ready? Yes I would... the last 2 guys she has been in a relationship (were both her age) broke up with her after about 3 months because they were mad she "wasn't putting out"

I don't see a difference between the attitude of guys at 16+ and the attitude of 20+ I have always teated women with respect. Its not about the age IMO, its about the attitude/personality of the person
Joined: 11/29/2007
Msg: 714
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/7/2008 9:03:21 PM
and to Adrian.. your a moron. The fact that you base your relationship on what " society deems as right" just shows right there how immature you are. You might of well just tell her " I am ashamed of us"

As for " its sick if you think that someone that young knows what love is" I would say I loved my X from the point when we got together at 16 to when we broke up when I was 22
Joined: 1/27/2007
Msg: 715
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Posted: 2/7/2008 11:58:36 PM
Notinit4 - not true. If you can find anything here that verifies your information, maybe I'll stand corrected.
Keep in mind that 150.1 (5) refers to the legal age for anal sex (I think - again, if you can find me the specific law that says otherwise, feel free to post a link). Until then, I've been told this by everybody from social services to the police to a lawyer, so I think I'll stick with my information for now.
Joined: 1/27/2007
Msg: 716
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Posted: 2/8/2008 12:05:07 AM
christopher something or whatever number. Ack, there are cheap shots left right and center. The main problem I have with the whole topic is that people bring up abusive scenarios, fringe incidents, when the whole topic was supposed to be about the ability of a minor and an adult to have a meaningful relationship while being sexual.
For the rest of your post, I don't really have anything besides that sounds like it sucked a lot, and I agree with everything you said. If the compatibility is there, age shouldn't be the deal breaker. There are deal breakers that are so much more worthy! Men will grin and bear it through a soap opera obsession, nitpicking habit, and weird little dogs dressed in sweaters and booties, but a large age difference and there's a huge problem. I really, really don't get that.
Joined: 9/17/2007
Msg: 717
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/8/2008 6:51:24 AM
the age of consent might open your eyes here are some ages around the world
Argentina - 15
Bahamas - 16
Canada - 14
Colombia - male 14, female 12
India - 18
Indonesia - male 19, female 16
Hungary - 14
Peru - male 14, female 12
Tunisia - 20
UK - 16
US - federal age 16
Joined: 11/21/2007
Msg: 718
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/8/2008 7:54:26 AM
ok i've read about 4 pages of this topic. i am a man who finds women my own age old looking but also recognises that i have nothing in common with a minor, the age range that i find most physically appealing. i have had a great deal of counseling in this area trying to fix what is wrong with me. i am emotionally mature, have had relationships with women my own age, but the only females who excite me sexually are off limits. i don't believe that someone who is relatively close in age i.e. 17 and 25 is terribly wrong, there are enough potential similarities in their experiences that they may have the basis for a relationship. for that reason i would never condemn a relationship developing between an individual many people see as a child with an adult so long as the age range is reasonably close and they have grounds for a relationship. A relationship can develop between any two individuals regardless of their age if they have common interests and a desire to spend time together. i believe that is the question being raised in this topic. it is wrong , however for any individual to pursue someone who is under age for the sole purpose of a sexual encounter. there must be a balance. age is merely a number not a rating of their personal development. any individuals who share interests and are interested in being intimate should be allowed to regardless of age.
however if the conversation topics that you would have with the younger partner include "what did you learn in school today" then there is a potentiially very serious problem. if you can't treat the younger person as an equal there are no grounds for a relationship, and certainly not as a sexual partner. to be in a relationship both parties must see themselves as equal to one another and any other type of relationship is wrong ( excluding relationships betwwen people who know that they enjoy slave/ master or mistress and similar type relationships, assuming that both are consenting and know one anothers limits and level of consent, though that's an entirel;y different topic) .
Joined: 4/24/2007
Msg: 719
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Posted: 2/8/2008 9:02:08 AM
Notinit4... your information is incorrect, the only "close in age" is for 12 and 13 year olds:
you said...

Taal~ In Canada, where I have lived y whole life, the age of consent is 14 yes but the other party must be under 18 or it is statotory rape. A couple of consenting 14 year olds can have sex but a consenting 14 year old cannot have sex with a 19 year old legally wether it was consentual or not.

From the government of canada, justice department...

What is Canada’s age of consent?

The age of consent is 18 years where the sexual activity involves exploitative activity, such as prostitution, pornography or where there is a relationship of trust, authority or dependency. For other sexual activity, the age of consent is 14 years.

Are there exceptions to this?

The Criminal Code provides what is often referred to as a “close in age” or “peer group” exception: a 12 or 13 year old can consent to engage in sexual activity with another person who is less than two years older and with whom there is no relationship of trust, authority or dependency.

Fourteen-year olds are too young to appreciate the consequences of engaging in any sexual activity, even with another person who is close in age. Why won’t the government raise the age to 16 years for non-exploitative activity?

Although there are many views on what is an appropriate age to begin to engage in sexual activity, the fact is that young persons do engage in sexual activity. The Canadian Youth, Sexual Health and HIV/AIDS Study 2003 report by the Canadian Council of Ministers of Education reported that, for youth who reported being sexually active , the average age of first sexual intercourse was 14.1 years for boys and 14.5 years for girls. Educating youth to make informed choices that are right for them is better addressed through parental guidance and sexual health education than by using the Criminal Code to criminalize youth for engaging in such activity.

Has the age of consent always been 14 years?

Although some mistakenly believe that the age of consent was lowered in the 1980s, the age of consent to sexual activity has been 14 years since 1890 when it was raised from 12 years.
Joined: 3/8/2007
Msg: 720
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Posted: 2/8/2008 9:25:53 AM

Children under 20 should not have sex with adults. My opinion. Yeah yeah, I know legal consent is what... 18?? it's 14

Kids should be kids as long as they can!
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 721
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/8/2008 11:10:08 AM

If a girl of 16 is being pursued by a man of 25 im going to think there is something wrong with him to be honest, what does he want? someone more pliable?.

What if the girl was 14 and dated a 34 year old. After the breakup she was single for a bit and then dated a 27 year old when she was 16. They lasted 3 years and then when she was 19, she started dating a 35 year old. This isn't hypothetical. This is a real person.

In fact, her mother encourages it because she feels that at least an older guy would have his life sorted out and would be able to provide for her.

Why do we really care so much about how other people choose to lives their lives? Is it because of your dissatisfaction with your own life that you choose to try to meddle around with concern yourself with the lives of people you will never meet?
Joined: 7/18/2007
Msg: 722
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/8/2008 2:47:15 PM
That Sam I am ....why do some of us care ? well some of us has daughters or in my case Goddaughters and our jobs when they are young is to protect them, and hopefully when they are old enough they can make decisions by them selves.
What if the girl was 14 and dated a 34 year old. After the breakup she was single for a bit and then dated a 27 year old when she was 16. They lasted 3 years and then when she was 19, she started dating a 35 year old. This isn't hypothetical. This is a real person.
In fact, her mother encourages it because she feels that at least an older guy would have his life sorted out and would be able to provide for her.-that sam i am
If what you say is true, the mother should be ashamed of her self(what kind of sick b itch would let her 14 year old date a 34 year old?) good Lord I hope the guy she was involved with at 14 and him 34 wasn't a teacher? do you know how sick that sounds? even 27 and 16 is a problem, once she hits 19 , so what.... its her life.

If being protective of our children is meddling, im guilty as charged. Im sorry you couldn't convince me that its right to lets minors be with adults, not matter how mature the teen is, granted yes Ive seen mature 17 years old live on their own, no help from the folks but really those are far and few between, most 17 year olds are too busy living at home enjoying mommy cooking, cleaning, laundry , borrowing the car blah blah blah.
 vinny low
Joined: 8/18/2006
Msg: 723
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Posted: 2/8/2008 2:50:28 PM
this isnt a problem for me because recently ive been on an older woman kick but when i was 22-23 years old i was all about the barely legal fresh out of highschool chicks, reason much the same as someone listed before, women my own age looked so old to me, how mant 23 year old women have i known who look like theyre 40? quite a lot so i wanted a taste of the young un-wrinkled tight perky wants to party world before it was too late. but now younger girls irritate me.
Joined: 3/16/2006
Msg: 724
Sex with minors
Posted: 2/8/2008 3:06:46 PM
17 years is not a child, they are a young adult. i would think they should have been parented enough to be able to go out in the world and start making some of their own decisions. children make mistakes -and learn from them, -they will never really grow up until you step back and let them take their own steps through life.
being less than a year away from being a legal adult -do you think they are just hit with a lightning volt of intelligence as soon as they turn 18?
there are always going to be old creepy dudes trying to rob the cradle, you cant follow your children around and protect them from everything. just hope you have taught and bred enough common sense into them to stay away from bar fights, felons and hookers...
Joined: 2/11/2007
Msg: 725
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Posted: 2/8/2008 3:11:13 PM
No, they aren't hit by a both of lightning when they turn 18-- but that doesn't make it any better.

Based on my experience teaching high school, I would say that many have NOT been parented enough to be able to go out and make responsible decisions.

Of course--- these are the ones that are most likely to be doing the behavior we're discussing....
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