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 heyitsme590
Joined: 11/24/2007
Msg: 535
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I think that when someone is 17 years old they know exactly what they're doing. They know about sex and are not as easily vulnerable as younger ages. :D
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 536
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Posted: 12/30/2007 2:04:01 AM
Right, so a 17 year old should be denied her right to choose who she wants to be with just because some total stranger feels that it is inappropriate by his/her own standards?

Talk about meddlesome!
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
Msg: 537
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Posted: 12/30/2007 2:22:57 AM
***Just replying to the first post.

Heres my opinion. Nice and simple. If it looks like a woman, talks like a woman and walks like a woman. Im attracted. If a woman walks by me and has hips and breasts, my genes tell me "Hey, theres a woman, follow her with your eyes in a creepy fashion." I can't help it. Any problems these days that people have with sex and the age it should happen at is just them fitting into their society nicely. Not only in the past but in the present there are cultures that accept sex at any age so long as it is consentual and honest. And thats how it should be.
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
Msg: 539
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Posted: 12/30/2007 6:56:00 AM
That reminds me of those news story you hear like "13 year old boys teacher molests him" and it turns out being this drop dead gorgeous older woman. HAHAHAHAAHA. MOLESTS!!!! A woman HAD to have written those headlines. A gorgeous woman cant MOLEST a 13 yo boy! Thats ridiculous. All 13 yo boys should be so lucky! Imean... those stories are the most ridiculous things Ive ever heard. Do these retarded people actually think these young men didnt enjoy the hell out of it for every second? Good lord... if only I had teachers like that when I went to school. Id have probably been a straight A student.
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 540
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Posted: 12/30/2007 8:36:16 AM
Ignoble, when I was 13, I had fantasies that my hot young teacher would get hot and heavy with me! I think the problem here is that after the poor teenager had that gorgeous teacher, nothing else would do and he was ruined for life.
 nocalsingledad
Joined: 11/27/2007
Msg: 545
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Posted: 12/30/2007 1:25:37 PM

having sex with a 17 year old is not acceptable


It is in most states of the US 17 year old girls are allowed to have sex with whomever they wish. The age of consent is 18 in only the following: Arizona, California, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Virginia, Wisconsin, and for US citizens outside the US except US military (16).

So in most areas of the US a 17 year old female would be able to have sex with whoever she wants. I live in a state where the age is 18, I attend a week long arts festival in a neighboring state where the age is 16. Most of the attendees are from California, where the age is 18. Often times parents will get upset when they find their 16 year old daughter in a compromising position with a 21 year old hipster and want to press charges only to learn that if it was consensual, they can't.
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 547
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Posted: 12/30/2007 1:40:44 PM
What's the big difference whether a 16 year old has sex with a 17 year old or a 30 year old. It's still sex. It's like saying that one is different from another. As for a 14 year old, she's probably not quite ready for sex whether it be with a 15 year old or a 30 year old.
 crazyindian69
Joined: 1/20/2006
Msg: 553
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Posted: 12/31/2007 9:16:14 PM
lol, just watch out for the laws buddy. There a story all over the news about a 17 year old boy having consensual ORAL sex with a 15 year old girl. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison. They finally absolved him of his crime two years later (this year), let him out of prison, and took him off the sex offenders list. There may have been an issue that he was black and she was white. May. Your age gap is in that range that some over zealous DA might take exception too.

Also you have to mindful of these laws when they were written.

"Canada has a long history of prohibiting sexual intercourse with young females, regardless of their consent. Only girls under 12 were absolutely unable to consent to sexual intercourse until 1890, when the age limit was raised to 14. With the advent of the Criminal Code in 1892, the strict prohibition against sexual intercourse was retained for girls under 14 (not married to the accused) and the law was strengthened to make an accused’s belief about the young woman’s age irrelevant."

In 1892 the average life expectancy was estimated 30-40. Now the Life expectancy is 67-70. We may have to change these laws.
 KUEngineer4U
Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 554
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Posted: 1/1/2008 9:24:14 AM
Remember that School Teacher a while ago who had sex with her male student? She wasn't charged because, in Georgia you can marry before 18 with consent. So, she got off, literaly.

I am against it, but I have a question: WHY is it more acceptable for an older woman to have sex with a minor male than a man to have sex wih a minor girl? We had a female school teacher who was having sex with her student get charged with a misdemeanor. If it is a man they get crucified, full court press.
 joetodd
Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 556
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Posted: 1/1/2008 10:07:12 AM
Maybe one day you'll have sex with a minor and be arrested so that you'll know & respect what the laws are in this country. You obviously need an education. I only hope you don't have children so they won't grow up to be like you. You profile shows what kind of woman you are. One day you'll learn I hope?
 joetodd
Joined: 12/21/2007
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Posted: 1/1/2008 10:09:15 AM
If you truely love her then you'll wait for another year. If not remember that if you ever break her heart, her or her parents can have you thrown in jail at anytime. Why risk screwing up your life for something that you'll have for the rest of it in a year. Jail house sex isn't near as fun for people under these conditions. Think about it.
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 568
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Posted: 1/2/2008 9:05:15 PM

That is a big issue to me, besides the fact, as has been mentioned several times. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW
But the age of consent in Canada is 14 as someone pointed out. There fore, it would NOT be against the law. And HOW!
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 1/3/2008 4:11:37 PM
I wish people would stop blaming these teen pregancies on a girls age saying "she wasnt adult enough to make the choice". Obviously these girls are just plain stupid as all hell. Geez.
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 1/3/2008 6:45:51 PM
They dont understand it snowkitten, the way things really are because they cant step back objectively and look at their whole. Their instincts, their history or even present day in other parts of the world. Its ok. I just say they're missing out.
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 1/4/2008 3:12:45 PM
Snowkitten I cant tell you how nice it is to meet a female who so closely shares my point of it, that being the objective non-brainwashed one. Good for you. You're going places hun. That kind of thinking makes the world go 'round.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 594
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Posted: 1/4/2008 3:20:09 PM
What if we did have a law that said that no-one could date anyone over 5 years age difference? That would satisfy all the people who don't like this idea. Unfortunately, that would meant that a lot of people would have to get divorced and/or break up, and a lot of people would be in prison for breaking that law, like a 38-year-old woman and a 28-year-old man. Imagine a world where a 38-year-old woman cannot date a guy who is 32, even if she has never met anyone she ever loved. This is the one guy in her life who would be great for her, and for him, and they cannot be together. How is that freedom? How is that fair?
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
Msg: 596
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Posted: 1/5/2008 9:54:14 AM
^^ mahogany_rush, let's be clear. Upon reading the forums, many people seem to think that it is OK for a 20 year old and a 30 year old to be together, but a 20 year old and a 35 year old would be sex with a minor.

I quite agree that the law MUST be respected. If the law in a country says that the age of consent is 18, then it is sex with a minor for a 17 year old to have sex with an 18 year old. It is also illegal for 2 17 year olds to have sex. If both partners are 18+, then it is legal. The age doesn't come into it.

The age of consent is when a person is considered accountable for their own behaviour, as far as sex goes. Before then, it's illegal for ANYONE to have sex with them. After then, it's completely legal for anyone who is also over the age of consent to have consensual sex with them, and they are accountable for their own behaviour.

But it appears that some people choose to make up their own laws in their own heads.
 Cynderella
Joined: 3/8/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:44:40 AM
This is why raising your kids has become a harder job...
Teaching them to respect their bodies and cherish their childhood!
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 11:57:46 AM
^^^ mahogany_rush, in the UK, the age of consent for heterosexual sex, and anal sex for both sexes is now 16.

I have a personal issue with all of this, because I've had a lot of options for NSA sex, and all sorts of hook-ups, ever since I was 8. But I believed that it would much better for the woman, and for me, if I waited for a relationship. The way I think about sex, is that it's between 2 people. What they do is no-one else's business, including their friends. Now I've discovered that there are women my age who are grandmothers, and with small kids of their own as well. It's incredibly hard finding women who have had a lot of partners who think like me, when it comes to sex, or children, because their experiences are just so different to mine.

To my mind, it would be not that different than a 21-year-old man who has slept with over 200 women and got kids by them, dating a 21-year-old woman with one previous long-term partner and no kids. You start talking about things, sex is just thrown in there, if you don't hook up right away, he wants to move on, but sex is just casual, and cheating is not that big of a deal, kids are more about providing food and clothing and not so much love, and commitment to relationships is not that important to such a man.

It's not that much different for me, when I meet women of my age.
 JWA
Joined: 5/21/2005
Msg: 604
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Posted: 1/5/2008 3:41:28 PM

Was this reported to POF? Am I the only one that thinks of this guy as sick?


LOL I'm thinking HardClimber has slipped a knot, dropped a caribiner or just come late to this party! If you'd read the first and opening posts here you'd see the headline here is hardly the hot topic is otherwise suggests. Try reading the OP first as that might give you a better understanding of the thread.

It's impossible that the Admin has NOT seen this thread since it was posted on 8/24/07 making it a full four months old by now. They might miss a few things but not for this long a period of time.
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 606
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:29:05 PM
Oh Hell, Nora Louise Kuzma had a lot of sex with a lot of people on screen. It only became an issue when they realised that she had faked her ID. Her name: Traci Lords. She was 16.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:38:14 PM
To mahogany_rush:
Are you trying to say its ok to have sex with a minor because they can consent to it? if thats your argument I suggest you hire a lawyer to go through the nuance of your laws.
No. Because I am all for keeping the law. The law says that anyone in the UK under 16 may not have sex with ANYONE, and if anyone does, they could be charged with child abuse and/or rape.

I only want legal sex. Got it? LEGAL. ONLY LEGAL SEX. WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE LEGAL FOR ME TO HAVE SEX WITH.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:46:07 PM
To JWA:
It's impossible that the Admin has NOT seen this thread since it was posted on 8/24/07 making it a full four months old by now. They might miss a few things but not for this long a period of time.
There is a reason that the Admin never deleted this thread, JWA. I posted on this thread on 8/30/2007, in msg 128, in which I pointed out that:
17 is the age of consent in the OP's country.
I got a heartfelt thank you from the OP for my post, by the way, so you can take it as a given. I think he lives in Ireland, if I remember right. Either way:

17 is the age of consent in the OP's country.
The Opening Post:
I recently read a post from a 25 year old man who has a crush on a minor, the girl in question is according to him is 17 years old. Personally I think this is unacceptable but some of the replies really shocked me. I have a 16 year old daughter and the thought of an adult male almost a decade older hitting on her troubles me as I feel at this age children are very venerable and should not be the target of 25 year old virgins (this claim was also made in the original post). Perhaps Im over protective so Id like to know what others think about what ages are acceptable for minors/17 year olds to have sex with adults from both male and females. If the genders were reversed would things be different? Whats you option on this?

The question raised was:If a 25-year-old man was interested in a 17-year-old girl, and it is completely legal for the two of them to have sex, would you see this as unacceptable?

Hope that clears it up for all of you. This thread is ONLY about legal sex.
 that sam i am
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 610
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:35:14 PM

The question raised was:If a 25-year-old man was interested in a 17-year-old girl, and it is completely legal for the two of them to have sex, would you see this as unacceptable?

I see it is none of my business and none of yours.
 scorpiomover
Joined: 4/19/2007
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Posted: 1/6/2008 10:03:46 AM
^^^ Kynnie, when was the last time you said all this to a 25-year-old woman who was dating a 17-year-old man, and told her that you would LEGALLY destroy her life, if she continued to date a man who was not her own age, and then LEGALLY destroyed her life because she continued to date such a man?

When was the last time you said all this to a 40-year-old woman who was dating an 18-year-old man, and told her that you would LEGALLY destroy her life, if she continued to date a man who was not her own age, and then LEGALLY destroyed her life because she continued to date such a man?
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