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 BigTexCookin
Joined: 2/3/2008
Msg: 384
Must not do drugs....?Page 16 of 22    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22)
I absolutely did end it based on that. I told him when we met when we were involved in casual convo that I have no tolerance for drug use in my life. I've had to deal with it since I was born and have no intention of inviting more of it. I was lucky that I didn't personally fall into using drugs. With my families history I'd have to be an idiot to even try to experiment with it. So have have never even touched weed. Drug use is a very important matter in a relationship it can change the entire dynamic. It's not a matter of live and let live.
 The Dood
Joined: 2/7/2008
Msg: 385
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Posted: 2/10/2008 2:19:35 PM
If you had said Drug abuse instead of Drug use I would probably be agreeing with you. However drug use does not equal drug abuse. From what you have said in your previous posts, it sounds like you, and your family, were victims of drug abuse, not drug use. Yes there is a difference.

Drug use can lead to drug abuse, but I think it is important to respect people to be able to be responsible with their recreational choices. That is why alcohol is legal, you can use it or you can abuse it. An alcoholic isn’t much different than a cocaine addict in terms of how or why they abuse their respective substances. So alcohol does have the potential to be as harmful or more harmful (because it is not always recognized as potentially dangerous) than illegal drugs, but we respect each others rights to have the chance to show that we can use it responsibly. When we can’t use it responsibly there are consequences, so why can’t weed smokers be given the same respect and rights?

That is why Cannabis has been de-criminalized in my country. It’s not legal yet, but you no longer receive a criminal record for possessing small amounts for personal use. The reason that has been done is because people are starting to understand that most of the “BAD” things they’ve been told about weed are greatly exaggerated or just plain lies. (I have never but the turkey in the cradle and the baby in the oven). People are seeing that marijuana can be used without being abused. North American society is not ready for legalized marijuana but it’s moving in that direction and eventually will probably be legalized and regulated like tobacco and alcohol.
 cobaltblu
Joined: 3/6/2005
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Posted: 2/10/2008 3:18:52 PM
Yeah-whatever-the ppl I saw when I was a kid also did use cigarettes and alcohol. Thanks for your info on "research"-but I don't care. I was just stating my personal experience/exposure to ppl that did drugs. I had no choice in the matter. I was just a little kid and saw a lot of stupid ppl do a lot of stupid things. I don't even want to debate the issue at all-I just was answering the OP's question.
 M-Dub™
Joined: 2/6/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 3:23:10 PM


Pot smokers really don’t consider weed a drug in the same sense of cocaine, heroin, prescription drugs, etc…. It is very simple, you put the seed in the ground, something comes out, you smoke it.

So if you do not consider weed a drug then stick to your guns and put NO to the drug question, just make sure you do note somewhere on your profile, or inform the other person at some point through correspondence, that you do in fact smoke weed and that’s it. You may not consider it a drug, but other people may, and you have to respect other people’s views and opinions, because they are just as valid as yours.


The Dood,
You make a lot of really good points, but I disagree about putting "no" in your profile, just because I think it's fairly safe to assume that anyone who checked "must not do drugs" most definitely includes pot in that category. If someone is so vehemently against drugs that they won't even accept a simple message from someone who is honest about their recreational marijuana use, nothing you say elsewhere in your profile is going to convince them to change their mind, and they'll probably just be annoyed that you contacted them in the first place. I guarantee that if you had the time and patience to read all 16 pages of this thread, literally every poster who said that they have the restriction in place absolutely consider weed a drug and would never consider dating someone who smokes weed. You're better off just checking the "socially" or "often" box and living with the consequences.

Another theme I've noticed in the anti-pot posts is that the people who are against pot seem to put much more credence in personal experiences (e.g. "my family members did drugs and it ruined their lives") as opposed to the myriad empirical evidence that shows that pot is no more harmful (and arguably less so) than legal drugs like tobacco, alcohol and prescription meds. It's frustrating, but it's their prerogative. Everyone makes judgments based on personal experience. For example, I would be hesitant to date a vegan again, simply because it's more hassle than it's worth. I don't want to eat at the same three restaurants every time we go out. Then again, I'm not so completely opposed to the idea that I'd check a box that says "must not be vegan." But I digress...

Basically, what I've started doing is just scrolling right to the bottom when I click on someone's profile. If they have "must not do drugs" checked, I don't even waste my time reading the rest of their profile. Like I said before, it actually makes things easier.
 Medina49
Joined: 12/17/2007
Msg: 388
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Posted: 2/10/2008 3:42:16 PM
This thread alone has been worth the price of admission.
 Thorb
Joined: 7/15/2005
Msg: 389
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Posted: 2/10/2008 4:37:24 PM
Well dang .... these days .... they should be including perscription drugs in that for .... mj .... is now a perscription drug ..... and is actually legal with a perscription [except in the ignorant federal laws of the USA]....... if you include perscription drugs ... then definately viagara and vallium and ritolin etc.... and any other imparing drug that may be taken should be on that list
[It is illegal to do perscription drugs without needing them and actually that is the biggest drug problem these days ... outside of the legal ones of Alchol and Nicotine ... though its the tars that kill you and the 200 other chemicals that are in cigs.]
so .... must not do drugs .... is a joke .... just like imtimate encounter or sex contact ..... who the hell can tell if someone made a sex contact .... and the intimate encounter thing is just stupid language that is constantly misunderstood by new people on the site because it supposedly means something that it doesn't mean.

If you partake in the forums ... you probably shouldn't have any restrictions on your profile so that people can actually contact you without airing dirty laundry in public forums.

like and the post at the top of this page ... looks like it was on drugs .... but really was just emotionally charged and therefor impared.

drugs aren't the only imparements ... hormones and body chemistry do quit a lot on their own.

 forum101
Joined: 2/5/2008
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Posted: 2/10/2008 10:47:10 PM
Dont shoot the messenger.

{NIDA InfoFacts: Marijuana (National Institute of Drug Abuse)
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Marijuana is the most commonly abused illicit drug in the United States. A dry, shredded green/brown mix of flowers, stems, seeds, and leaves of the hemp plant Cannabis sativa, it usually is smoked as a cigarette (joint, nail), or in a pipe (bong). It also is smoked in blunts, which are cigars that have been emptied of tobacco and refilled with marijuana, often in combination with another drug. It might also be mixed in food or brewed as a tea. As a more concentrated, resinous form it is called hashish and, as a sticky black liquid, hash oil. Marijuana smoke has a pungent and distinctive, usually sweet-and-sour odor. There are countless street terms for marijuana including pot, herb, weed, grass, widow, ganja, and hash, as well as terms derived from trademarked varieties of cannabis, such as Bubble Gum, Northern Lights, Fruity Juice, Afghani #1, and a number of Skunk varieties.

The main active chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol). The membranes of certain nerve cells in the brain contain protein receptors that bind to THC. Once securely in place, THC kicks off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the high that users experience when they smoke marijuana.
Extent of Use

In 2004, 14.6 million Americans age 12 and older used marijuana at least once in the month prior to being surveyed. About 6,000 people a day in 2004 used marijuana for the first time—2.1 million Americans. Of these, 63.8 percent were under age 181. In the last half of 2003, marijuana was the third most commonly abused drug mentioned in drug-related hospital emergency department (ED) visits in the continental United States, at 12.6 percent, following cocaine (20 percent) and alcohol (48.7 percent)2.

Prevalence of lifetime,* annual, and use within the last 30 days for marijuana remained stable among 10th- and 12th-graders surveyed between 2003 and 2004. However, 8th-graders reported a significant decline in 30-day use and a significant increase in perceived harmfulness of smoking marijuana once or twice and regularly3. Trends in disapproval of using marijuana once or twice and occasionally rose among 8th-graders as well, and 10th-graders reported an increase in disapproval of occasional and regular use for the same period3.

Percentage of 8th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
Monitoring the Future Study, 2005
1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
Lifetime 16.7% 19.9% 23.1% 22.6% 22.2% 22.0%
Annual 13.0 15.8 18.3 17.7 16.9 16.5
30-day 7.8 9.1 11.3 10.2 9.7 9.7
Daily 0.7 0.8 1.5 1.1 1.1 1.4

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Lifetime 20.3% 20.4% 19.2% 17.5% 16.3% 16.5%
Annual 15.6 15.4 14.6 12.8 11.8 12.2
30-day 9.1 9.2 8.3 7.5 6.4 6.6
Daily 1.3 1.3 1.2 1.0 0.8 1.0


Percentage of 10th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
Monitoring the Future Study, 2005
1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
Lifetime 30.4% 34.1% 39.8% 42.3% 39.6% 40.9%
Annual 25.2 28.7 33.6 34.8 31.1 32.1
30-day 15.8 17.2 20.4 20.5 18.7 19.4
Daily 2.2 2.8 3.5 3.7 3.6 3.8

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Lifetime 40.3% 40.1% 38.7% 36.4% 35.1% 34.1%
Annual 32.2 32.7 30.3 28.2 27.5 26.6
30-day 19.7 19.8 17.8 17.0 15.9 15.2
Daily 3.8 4.5 3.9 3.6 3.2 3.1


Percentage of 12th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana
Monitoring the Future Study, 2005
1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
Lifetime 38.2% 41.7% 44.9% 49.6% 49.1% 49.7%
Annual 30.7 34.7 35.8 38.5 37.5 37.8
30-day 19.0 21.2 21.9 23.7 22.8 23.1
Daily 3.6 4.6 4.9 5.8 5.6 6.0

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
Lifetime 48.8% 49.0% 47.8% 46.1% 45.7% 44.8%
Annual 36.5 37.0 36.2 34.9 34.3 33.6
30-day 21.6 22.4 21.5 21.2 19.9 19.8
Daily 6.0 5.8 6.0 6.0 5.6 5.0

* "Lifetime" refers to use at least once during a respondent’s lifetime. "Annual" refers to use at least once during the year preceding an individual's response to the survey. "30-day" refers to use at least once during the 30 days preceding an individual’s response to the survey.

Effects on the Brain

Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement4.

The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana abuse indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term abuse of other major drugs. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system5 and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine6. Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.
Effects on the Heart

One study has indicated that an abuser's risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana7. The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana's effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.
Effects on the Lungs

A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers8. Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.

Even infrequent abuse can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways9. Smoking marijuana possibly increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers10.

Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens9,11. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke12. It also induces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells13. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.
Other Health Effects

Some of marijuana's adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system's ability to fight disease. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited14. In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors15,16.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior

Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.

Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.

More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.

Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy

Research has shown that some babies born to women who abused marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli28, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development29. During the preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to perform tasks involving sustained attention and memory more poorly than nonexposed children do30,31. In the school years, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in problem-solving skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive30.
Addictive Potential

Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they abuse the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop abusing the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety32. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug33.
Genetic Vulnerability

Scientists have found that whether an individual has positive or negative sensations after smoking marijuana can be influenced by heredity. A 1997 study demonstrated that identical male twins were more likely than nonidentical male twins to report similar responses to marijuana abuse, indicating a genetic basis for their response to the drug34. (Identical twins share all of their genes.)

It also was discovered that the twins' shared or family environment before age 18 had no detectable influence on their response to marijuana. Certain environmental factors, however, such as the availability of marijuana, expectations about how the drug would affect them, the influence of friends and social contacts, and other factors that differentiate experiences of identical twins were found to have an important effect.34
Treating Marijuana Problems
The latest treatment data indicate that, in 2002, marijuana was the primary drug of abuse in about 15 percent (289,532) of all admissions to treatment facilities in the United States. Marijuana admissions were primarily male (75 percent), White (55 percent), and young (40 percent were in the 15-–19 age range). Those in treatment for primary marijuana abuse had begun use at an early age; 56 percent had abused it by age 14 and 92 percent had abused it by 1835.

One study of adult marijuana abusers found comparable benefits from a 14-session cognitive-behavioral group treatment and a 2-session individual treatment that included motivational interviewing and advice on ways to reduce marijuana use. Participants were mostly men in their early thirties who had smoked marijuana daily for more than 10 years. By increasing patients' awareness of what triggers their marijuana abuse, both treatments sought to help patients devise avoidance strategies. Abuse, dependence symptoms, and psychosocial problems decreased for at least 1 year following both treatments; about 30 percent of the patients were abstinent during the last 3-month followup period36.

Another study suggests that giving patients vouchers that they can redeem for goods—such as movie passes, sporting equipment, or vocational training—may further improve outcomes37.

Although no medications are currently available for treating marijuana abuse, recent discoveries about the workings of the THC receptors have raised the possibility of eventually developing a medication that will block the intoxicating effects of THC. Such a medication might be used to prevent relapse to marijuana abuse by lessening or eliminating its appeal.}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}]

Google "marijuana, myths and facts". Most of the pros of pot are disproven. it is addictive, actually causes more cancer than smoking, and causes a lot of social and work problems. and the younger the smoker when it is started, the higher the risk of moving on to worse drugs. And the only medical use it would have would be to increase appetite in cancer victims-- and even that test was inconclusive. A placebo did as well.

i still dont want it around me.
 M-Dub™
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:29:27 PM
From Wikipedia:


NIDA officials have edited the Wikipedia article about their organization to remove text and links critical of NIDA and add NIDA URLs and text from NIDA literature. The article history shows a single edit in late August 2006 and a number of edits during September 2006 by an anonymous editor with an IP address from within NIH. These edits have been reverted. In January 2007, NIDA spokeswoman Dorie Hightower verified that the editing was done by NIDA officials, and said it was done "to reflect the science."


Quite the reliable source you have there, forum101. Maybe I should cut & paste something from the NORML website to refute it.

 Harry Peter
Joined: 12/25/2006
Msg: 392
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Posted: 2/10/2008 11:43:40 PM
Drug: Any chemical/s Tipper Gore hates but needs to take. Or any chemical that one feels the need to take after hearing her spew. Ex: Aspirin, tylenol a shot of booze etc.
 hdhighway
Joined: 10/3/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2008 12:16:35 AM
Although you have every right to not have it around you, and no one would argue otherwise, your "study" is brought to you from the same folks who put Heroin in the same catagory as pot. There are some valid points made in their propaganda mixed with BS. Even if cannibis was determined to be as dangerous as tabbacco, folks smoke much less. They do not tell you that the THC and CBD in cannibis are not cancer causing and actually have anti cancer causing properties. The problems associated with smoke are being avoided by the use of a vaporizer by a lot of people today. I love how they use kids for their "facts" - I remember how much fun we all had filling out those studies. How truthfull do you think those studies are? The bottom line is you copied BS - nothing but- and did not go to both sides of the issue for the truth that you may find somewhere in the middle. Everything in life is a risk I suppose, hide from it in your house and it might burn down. EDIT: For christ sake - I just checked out where some of the information came from - a 1975 study done by the folks who testified that cigarettes do not cause cancer. Brilliant research honey..............
 123carrie
Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2008 3:00:52 AM
I checked Must Not Do Drugs on my profile. I don't and never have used drugs and do not want to be around people who do. First, and most importantly, is that I am a nurse and refuse to have my license to practice taken away because I am in the company of someone using/selling illegal drugs. Two years ago, I ended a relationship with a man. Nearly six months later I received a call late in the evening from the local police department asking if I would bail this guy out of jail. When I asked about the charges, they told me that they could not reveal that information. So, the nice person that I was, I went to the ATM, withdrew a fairly large sum of money and bailed him out. When we get to my vehicle, he tells me that the police raided his sporting good store and found drugs. LOTS of them and many kinds. However, he tried to make me believe that it was all a setup.

There were events that I questioned in my mind when I would visit him at his store at times; however, I never saw any drugs nor did I ever see him use them. When he asked me to take him back to his house that night, he rushed in and immediately went searching through closets and other hiding places. He called a friend of his and asked him if he could bring some things over to his house for a few days. One of then was a sheet of glass. I put it together what he used that for.

Was I angry? You'd better believe I was. If I had been staying with him at the time all of this happened and the police had raided his house too, they would have found that and I could have been charged with the same crime. Not only that, but when he continually refused to repay me for the bail money, I went to the DA's office and within an hour I had my money returned.

NO!!! I will NOT tolerate anyone who uses and/or illegal sells drugs. My career is much more important than someone who has no respect for the consequence of their actions on my livelihood!!! I have heard that he is back selling again.
 hdhighway
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Posted: 2/11/2008 10:41:35 AM
Carrie - If someone put me in a situation like that - I would be pissed. You have every right to have whoever you choose around you. If you block out the occasional pot smoker, you are blocking some very fine people. If that is your choice to do so, you have that right.
 wannashakeyourtree
Joined: 8/17/2005
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Posted: 2/11/2008 12:00:42 PM
seriously... I'm far more concerned about a woman who abuses cosmo, her credit or her body with messed up body image ideas than I am a woman who smokes the reefer.

And to be honest there seem to be a TON of the former here...not nearly enough of the latter.
 123carrie
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Posted: 2/11/2008 12:35:00 PM
I can accept the last two poster's opinions....however, I am talking about my livelihood here...and in healthcare, I would not be given a second chance if I were found in close association with a drug dealer....

I think everyone has their own opinion about drugs and that is okay with me.....and again, as long as it would not harm me in any way (including my career), they have a right to own their actions...I don't just judge others unless it impacts my life.
 weaselontoast
Joined: 6/29/2007
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Posted: 2/11/2008 2:02:36 PM
First of all, alcohol completely fries the brains of users...it is a TOXIC substance

About the sort of medical prognosis I'd expect from this site. Alcohol CAN fry the brain when abused. It has a toxic effect on some individuals.

I do not wish to put my job, home or well-being in jeopardy because of someone who can't control their alcohol intake - any more than I am willing to risk those things for someone who does illegal drugs. I won't knowingly date someone who does. It's my choice, end of story. That's why I've been forthright enough to say "must not do drugs" in my profile. (with no question mark, by the way - I'm certain of it.)

Seriously, do habitual drug users really WANT to date people who don't use drugs? Why subject yourself to a relationship with someone who fundamentally disagrees with you about this? If someone wants to use drugs it's their issue, but I choose not to romantically entangle myself with that.

I suppose some of the more verbally-challenged here will go back to that exhausted and ubiquitous battle cry of "SHALLOW!!!" - pffft - whatever, I'm just so "shallow" I don't want to be involved with a substance abuser. I'm just so shallow I don't want a meth lab in my garage...so shallow I don't wanna bail your ass out of jail or haul your ass to rehab...or accept the lame excuse that you treat me like dog crap because you're tripping.

This thread really is a no-brainer.
 hdhighway
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Posted: 2/11/2008 2:53:46 PM
Carrie - I think it is a disgrace that what someone else does can effect your job. I think it is a disgrace that a man can not put thier energy into something other than selling drugs. ( I include the pharm execs that dump so many drugs on the public that they know they are being abused) I think it is a disgrace that we spend 35 grand a year to house drug users while splitting up and devestating their families. I also think that you desrve to have in your life anything and anyone that gives you happiness. I wish you well. I do know the differance about what the propaganda says about pot and the truth. I own a bar and see every day the damage that liquor does. I do not smoke pot but know the laws are unjust so I say so. Your friend that put you in the middle of his nonsense without you knowing was an ass and the chances are he always will be.
 kittenshere
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Posted: 2/11/2008 3:04:59 PM
there is alwzsy someone who will try to start an argument conerning theads. u all behave and everyone knows pot is an illegal drug. the people who are disagreeeing with it are more than likely users themselves or know of someone close to them that is. thats why they defend it. everyone quit the fighting about it becuase everyone knows what is meant by the term DRUGS ...and it aint cigarettes and alcohol. now everyone behave.
 hdhighway
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Posted: 2/11/2008 3:15:28 PM
kittenshare - I had to block you because you contacted me with your weak arguments last night and you were not nice. That is why I blocked you - now who are you to say be nice? Then when you were blocked you had your girlfriend play her games with me. Behave? Please - I had POF check all my emails that were sent and recieved as well as the IM because of your girl friends threats. They know exactley how well you behave. Try not to talk with me directly here or elsewhere - if you have any sense and want to stay on here, just leave me alone.
 kittenshere
Joined: 6/16/2006
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Posted: 2/11/2008 3:17:06 PM
hd i did not contact u...u sent me mail being a total jerk and i simply responded. so tell it like it really is ok. u contacted me first. all i did was respond. and i am not a mean person. jsut becuase u disagree on the drug thing does not make me a mean person. so quit ur whinning and i do not care if u blocked me . i have no intentions on ever replying to ur mean messages u send to me. so feel free to unblock me or not..doesnt really matter. be safe
 hdhighway
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Posted: 2/11/2008 3:37:43 PM
Oh for Christ sake - no sense at all - Look, I do not know you - I do not want to know you - Look back on this post and others and try to explain yourself - here you called a very nice lady stupid and uneducated - and do not think anything about it. You are not very nice. POF undoubtedly agrees, they have the record - NO I WILL NOT UNBLOCK YOU please do not use the forums to follow me around and bait me.
 kittenshere
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Must not do drugs....?
Posted: 2/11/2008 5:09:05 PM
i do not have a girlfirned so if u were contacted by somene else other than me when i responded to ur rude and unwarranted email to me...... well i had nothing to do with it. i guess its someone else u made mad. i was looking at ur post and apparentlty u try to start fights with everybody. ur personality is in the dumpster. maybe pof should look at ur remarks to others. i was shocked at rude u were to so many other people on here. you try to make it the other persons fault and ur the one who starts it all. go figure.
 weaselontoast
Joined: 6/29/2007
Msg: 405
Must not do drugs....?
Posted: 2/11/2008 5:27:33 PM
My, my, children. Sounds like someone's on DRUGS. This is a great way to get a thread deleted, please don't stop now...we can only hope.
 cocytus
Joined: 11/9/2007
Msg: 406
Must not do drugs....?
Posted: 2/11/2008 7:38:31 PM
For everybody that uses drugs that's "successful"......there are many more that are not.

I used to get high and I knew that was true then.
I'm having a hard time understanding why people who are getting high NOW can't seem to come to grips w/ that fact.

Having said that...should drugs be legalized?
In my opinion,yes.
There are too many people in prisons for relatively minor offenses and too much time is being wasted trying to stop something that people will get anyway.

Will legalizing drugs make things better?
Nope.
IMHO, things will be about the same.
Perhaps a little worse.
No way of telling.

Would I date somebody that uses drugs regularly now?
No.
The negatives would far outweigh the positives.
 forum101
Joined: 2/5/2008
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Must not do drugs....?
Posted: 2/11/2008 10:28:22 PM
people who use drugs are trying to escape from something, depression, anxiety. that alone signals to me to keep away from people like that. I dont need their problems in my life. Drugs kill. and unless you are under the care of a doctor, they are illegal. That is the way it is, get over it.
 123carrie
Joined: 7/25/2007
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Posted: 2/14/2008 1:49:59 PM
In my previous post, I did not mean that I did not have an opinion on illegal drug use. I do....Drug abuse costs the American public millions of dollars each year. The cost to care for people addicted to drugs, accidents/intentional injuries and deaths that result from drugs users and providers, as well as the cost of policing to find, arrest, prosecute and house drug dealers in prisons.

There is also a societal cost associated with caring for the families of people who are addicted to drugs and who cannot keep jobs to generate income to provide for their families while they are doing/selling or when they are incarcerated.

I do not want these types of problems in my personal life that dating someone who uses drug might bring and, therefore, do not want to meet or date anyone who uses drugs.
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