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 forum101
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Must not do drugs....?Page 19 of 22    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22)
I have a really hard time trying to understand people who would advocate use of an illegal, mind altering drug. They make up their lame excuses, why it is OK, or why it should be legal, to try to validate their attempts to escape reality. Most medicines do have some sort of natural component. blow that concept out your a**. its not working anymore. It is the reaction when on these medications that is the problem. Narcotics are controlled. alcohol is not sold to minors, cigerettes either, hopefully. But to a consenting adult, they are legal. blow that one out too. There are a few that get through the cracks, and that is how the abusers come into play. The fact is, when you smoke dope, you are breaking the law, you cannot hold down any reputable job, because of the drug screens, when you are using, you are not yourself, and therefore, are a menace to society, a safety hazard. Grow up and learn how to go by the rules, AKA laws of the citizens, for the citizens. The world does not revolve around you. get over it.
 hdhighway
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Posted: 3/3/2008 12:54:40 AM
Because very stupid people do not realize that a drug is a drug. They try to throw legal and illeagal into the mix to excuse their own drug use and are in a state of denial or stupidity whatever - you choose.
 Honest Ernie
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Posted: 3/3/2008 6:37:11 PM
It's kind of a self serving question with the potential to stir up a lot of controversy. Others have already stated very sensibly and rationally, if you have a problem with someone who states "must not do drugs", go find someone who does not have that restriction. It should be quite simple, why seek arguments.
 pappy009
Joined: 2/3/2008
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Posted: 3/5/2008 6:02:41 AM
Quite and interesting thread, especially when pot is involved. I am sure many of us are aware that pot is somewhat of a drug that was used in herbal remedies to help people sleep, increase appetite and so on. In the simplest ways. So I had to look it up, I needed the information and here is some of what I have read and discovered.

If chronic use occurs, there is a build up of THC in the brain, its actually harmless to the tissue but does cause short term memory loss that is not permanent. After quiting smoking the brain is returned to normal. Thats it, there is no other harmful effects of pot.

Now some of the things that I discovered if memory serves well here, its been a while since I studied it.
When you light up a joint you inhale, this opens up all the air sacs in the lungs, it allows the liquids collected in the air sacs to flow upward and you tend to spit it out in a hanki or the street. That substance is toxic to the lungs and if you smoke cigarettes its actually helpful at cleaning out the effects of smoking.

Once you inhale, your lungs fill up with this fatty acid call omega 3-6-9 because pot seeds are gruel, or porridge people ate in the old days, daily. The lack of Omega fats has been linked to ADD ADHD. Hemp or Pot has more natural nutrition when eaten than any of the cereals made today.

Pot stop Glaucoma cataracts by opening up the blood cells of the eyes so that the blood can remove dead cells.

Pot lowers blood pressure by opening up the blood vessels of the body including the little ones and it seem by doing this your body tingles as the blood reaches each cell caring enzyenes to replenish the cell and remove dead cells.

Pot shrinks tumors in the brain. The main reason why pharmaceuticals companies are experimenting with pot is its ability to lesson the advance of brain traumas.

Removes cholestrol.

Lowers blood pressure.

Relaxes without the use of Valium which is far worst than pot.

It was made illegal in 1931 the same yr. that the petro chemical companies urged our representatives to ban its use. The reason, Hemp, Hemp supplies over 25,000 products in direct competition to the oil industry. The first Diesel motor in Germany ran on Hemp oil. Hemp can be grown on a rock, taller than a person and can supply us with enough food (porridge), oils for painting, fabrics that last longer than cotton, no pesticides are needed and cotton uses more pesticides than pretty well any crop etc, etc,etc.

Read Sugar Blues by William Duffy, Sugar is biggest killer to mankind. Why not avoid people who eat sugar.

Just because its illegal does not mean its wrong. To be charged for this, is a victimless crime.Thats wrong. We all have our preferences for sure, but all my friends smoke pot, all get up in the morning and go to work, all of them raised there kids, all of them paid there mortgages and all of them are pretty normal and somewhat very intelligent. Simply because they see the other side to things.

Fluoride in water is a known carcenigetic. Does not help in preventing dental decay but help destroy the ability to transfer Calcium into bone matter. And the tube is full of commercials to help bones with more chemicals.

Aspartame changes into a carcenigetic once it hits 96 degrees whats your body temperature. When the first Dessert Storm occured boxes and boxes of diet pop was left out in the heat. You do the math on the Gulf War Syndrome cases.

Vaccinations are now preserved with Methymercury, it effects the brain in neuronets, memory loss (Alzheimer's) MS, MD, Fibramoyomia, and so on.

Booze kills brain cells.

There all legal, and I refuse to go out with anyone who eats processed cerials, gets vaccinations and uses Aspartame, I don't need the long term ill effects of those drugs either.

I don't support pot usage as I don't support booze either, but to each there own.
 oddandy
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 481
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Posted: 3/10/2008 8:39:21 AM

here is the scoop ... they all affect the healthy relationships your hormones have to your brain..... this is not myth but scientific fact and when someone wants to screw with their brain secretion of hormones they age faster, have drastic changes in moods and anxiety and panic attacks, insulin levels get disrupted hence weight fluctuation and most importantly sex drives deminish due to disturbances of hormones.


A lot of cognitive dissonance on this subject. People wouldn't think twice about dating someone who drinks a lot of caffeinated beverages, and caffeine (especially in large doses over a long period of time) can have the same negative effects on mood and physical health as marijuana.

As for the "but it's illegal!" viewpoint, I wonder how many of these folks are aware that most US states still have laws on the books prohibiting oral sex, for just 1 example.
 forum101
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Posted: 3/11/2008 4:36:45 AM
NoseyNeighbor said:
{{{Insulin lispro is a drug. Approved by the FDA in June, 1996,
Insulin aspart is a drug, and,
Insulin glargine is a drug.}}}

You cannot compare pot to a life saving medication. what a piece of crap.
Potheads want to smoke it, therefore would argue come hell or high water about it. I dont want anyone who smokes it or does any illegal drugs around me. You are a safety hazard to be around. It speaks volumes about a person who continues to do something even though it is illegal, then tries to ram their rationale down someone else's throat.

and a quick note to Imagine_If:
What a concept. a 19 year old single full-time mother, no job, drug user, looking for a man, You can spell clueless, but do you actually know what it means? i sure hope you keep that crap away from your baby.
 oddandy
Joined: 3/5/2008
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Posted: 3/11/2008 3:32:15 PM

It speaks volumes about a person who continues to do something even though it is illegal, then tries to ram their rationale down someone else's throat.


So in countries where it is illegal to speak negatively of an oppressive government, what volumes are spoken about those who dare to speak out anyway and encourage others to do the same?

I think it speaks volumes when someone makes value judgements based merely on what happens to be legal or illegal at any given time.
 forum101
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Posted: 3/11/2008 9:05:14 PM
the smoke is clouding your brain. reread. this is about drugs. pot. illegal. got it? even though some have made it off topic. arguments do not change the facts.
 oddandy
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 488
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Posted: 3/12/2008 8:27:55 AM

the smoke is clouding your brain. reread. this is about drugs. pot. illegal. got it? even though some have made it off topic. arguments do not change the facts.


What's off topic? A big part of your argument (which you reinforced AGAIN in your last post) seems to be that the illegality of marijuana use somehow contributes to it being "bad," so I asked a simple question in response to your statement:


It speaks volumes about a person who continues to do something even though it is illegal, then tries to ram their rationale down someone else's throat.


that question being, what about people who live in countries where it is illegal to speak negatively of an oppressive government but who insist on doing it anyway, and who encourage others to do the same? (i.e. "trying to ram their rationale down someone else's throat.")

Or what about people in Hitler's Germany that hid Jews even though it was illegal, perhaps even trying to convince others that they should do the same?

Nothing's off topic here - your last 2 posts mention the illegality of the substance, I'm pressing you (and others) on why that seems an important factor to you?
 Beaugrand®™©
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Posted: 4/14/2008 8:58:54 PM
I checked off the box that says "must not do drugs."
That means any (illegal) "controlled" substance that can be inhaled (in smoke, vapor, or powdered form), swallowed, or injected.
Yes, that includes any form of cannabis or any "natural" or "organic" hallucinogenic substance.

"Why" is simple: I don't need the drama, the expense, the embarassment, or the legal entanglements associated with people involved in abusing substances (drugs) of any kind: I don't need to have the police find your drug-related residue or paraphenalia in my vehicle or in my house.
Been there done that, moved on decades ago.

I also can't stand drunks.
 FreeWheelinFranklin
Joined: 4/11/2008
Msg: 494
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Posted: 4/14/2008 10:32:51 PM
Why would I date someone who doesn't do drugs?
Lots of substances affect your behavior and can be classified as a drug.
Coffee is a drug. Sugar is a drug. Chocolate is too. Just cause it is legal doesn't make it okay to become addicted to. If you abuse anything it is bad for you.
If you believe everything the government and media tell you then you deserve what you get. Go ahead and let them wash your brain of any self thought. This is supposed to be a free society but it appears that some people need to be reminded occasionally so that they don't try forcing their will upon others. To each their own. If you don't like drugs then you have every right not to have it in your life and visa versa. Just because there is nobody left to discriminate against in a politically correct manner it seems that there is a public witch hunt for anyone that smokes or drinks or uses drugs. History is destined to repeat itself. Where will it stop? When all drug users/smokers/boozers are gone what will they choose to ban next? The answer is your freedom. Smokers, drinkers and drug users have rights and are not less of a human and should therefore not be treated differently.
I would rather date someone who does weed than someone that has taken anti-depressants or anti-psychotics or any other modern drug or hard drug. At least weed has been around forever and has been used historically for medicinal and religious purposes by many non-western cultures.
There are so many hypocrites on this site - are you one?
 ChocolateNutt
Joined: 6/25/2006
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Posted: 10/1/2008 9:38:31 PM
Pot is a drug, coke is a drug, prescription drugs used for a high or some purpose other than the actual prescription is a drug, drinking lysol is a drug.

I use this restriction because I don't want to be around people who use drugs or have addictions.

I also don't understand why people who do use drugs are so offended by the fact that there are people who find that unappealing. Instead of ranting and complaining, why don't you simply find someone who feels the way you do. I've had people find me unattractive because I'm very short, there are people who don't want to date someone who has children, I even had one man think there was something wrong with me because I'd never lived with a man--I don't sit and cry about the injustice of those preferences or try to change those people's minds, I just move on to the next person who may share my interests and be attracted to me. Everyone has preferences, so why dwell on the people who don't prefer you.

Nutt
 ChocolateNutt
Joined: 6/25/2006
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Posted: 10/1/2008 10:12:15 PM

Oh please ... just read the first page ... the question was answered... the Original Poster has left PoF .... there really is nothing more to say.

Start a new thread.


It's obviously a topic that many people still find interesting and harbour serious opinions on. Why should they not continue to discuss it? And you are not supposed to start new threads on existing discussions so they are obligated to continue the discussion in this thread.

If you're no longer interested in the topic, then don't return. It's your choice after all.

Nutt
 jackster121
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Posted: 10/6/2008 4:51:03 PM
well my question would be who puts down that they use drugs?
 techgirl27
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Posted: 11/15/2008 2:58:58 PM
"I'd jut like to ask as you see this in a lot of profiles '' Must not do drugs''.

what do people consider Drugs?? obviously someone with a daily heroin or coke habit is doing 'drugs'.

but what about people who smoke cannabis? do you consider cannabis a drug?

And if you use this contact restriction, why do you use it?"

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I was looking for a thread on this, and without reading through 21 pages of banter, I just went back to the OP's post. I hope this is ok. Some think others are ignoring it.

No one said anything about legal drugs. Caffeine. Alcohol. Nicotine. Even things like aspirin. Does anyone think of possibilities that people abuse these too?

I don't smoke cannabis so I can't answer that one, but I look more at how responsible a person is, including their physical health. If their health or behavior is suffering from something they're doing, then that is pretty much a dealbreaker. You won't catch me doing cannabis, not because of "repercussions" or "legality" but because if I did want a vice, it wouldn't be that one because of the side effects.

To some extent, a few of these can actually help us, keep our weight down, and what not. Its back to the responsibility thing.
 Ferruginous
Joined: 5/12/2008
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Posted: 11/15/2008 3:26:19 PM
^^^
I think it's generally accepted that the "drugs" question on profiles refers to illegal drugs. Not caffiene, nicotine, aspirin, etc.


but what about people who smoke cannabis? do you consider cannabis a drug?
Yes.
People can never-ending arguments in these forums about whether or not pot is dangerous, or evil, or as bad as crack, or better/worse than alcohol, etc. But, the simplest answer, regardless of anyone's person opinion is: since it's considered an illegal substance, it should be included among the drugs being refered to in that profile question.



And if you use this contact restriction, why do you use it?"
I don't bother to use the restriction.
But, based on other people I know on this site who have used that restriction, most people who use it do not want to be contacted by anyone who uses illegal substances, including pot. In fact, many of them specifically don't want to be contacted by the burnt-out pot-head who tries to justify his pot use by using the "but it's only pot" argument
 Ticketoride
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Posted: 11/15/2008 4:44:20 PM
but what about people who smoke cannabis? do you consider cannabis a drug?

In what Sphere? A person under the suspected Influence of Marijuana can be sent in for Testing and be fired on the Spot if Traces are found. Who cares what some junked-out Druggie thinks about Pot Use? Many Companies now require Drug Testing as part of the Qualification for Employment.

And if that won't suffice, both the FDA & Health Canada classify Cannabis as both a restricted and illegal Substance. Why listen to some Dope who can't think straight anyways?
 Ferruginous
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Posted: 11/15/2008 8:24:53 PM

First off, if ANYONE has a "I don't do drugs" profile; they are down right lying or they don't under stand what drugs are. Get this, some people will list that they don't do drugs yet they drink occasionally or socially....WTF?
There's already a seperate place to list whether or not you drink. duh?



Third, I believe the "Must not do drugs" is too general. It should be "Must not do illegal drugs
Most people, who haven't fried their brains, are capable of realising that it obviously refers to illegal drugs.
 AddHomonym
Joined: 12/26/2011
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Posted: 1/1/2012 8:24:01 AM
I get the impression some of you have never heard of the medicinal benefits of marijuana.

It not only happens to be prescribed by doctors all over Canada but it is an excellent alternative to opiate use, especially for long-term pain management.

This thread is of particular interest to me since I've noticed some intriguing women with enough common interests to guarantee a good discussion over coffee but for those four words in the Subject line. (Must not do drugs)

Being lumped in with heroin addicts is ridiculous.

My initial thought was to point out that some women are missing out on amazing opportunities because they hadn't considered that legitimate use of drugs would be lumped in with everything else.

Then I read some of the comments in here. You do realize that unless you live in a cave somewhere and eat moss, chances are very high that you use "drugs" all day, every day? Our entire society lives by the idiom, "better living through chemistry"

Some of the comments in here sound like Scientology sermons.

Maybe it's a good thing I get lumped in with everyone else after all?
 dsljim
Joined: 7/2/2011
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Posted: 1/1/2012 10:23:23 AM
(I wouldn't want to date anyone that felt they must use a substance to change/enhance the way they think and/or feel )
What were you thinking and or feeling when you became addicted to cigarettes, alcohol, makeup, and hair coloring chemicals?
 dmzvisitor
Joined: 3/25/2011
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Posted: 1/1/2012 10:36:10 AM
Maybe it is just me, but I assume that "doinjg drugs" means illegal use of recreational drugs. Perhaps that needs to be clarified by POF? I do not use illegal, artificial stimulants to enhance my experience, although I do take prescription drugs if prescribed. I am fine with other people using alcohol, tobacco, weed, etc. (in moderation; ie, their use would never put others at risk). That's just not my lifestyle. It's not going to change.

I understand when people get frustrated by the arbitrary legality of some drugs and not others. The bottom line for me is that some things are illegal and I can lose my job for being "caught" with them. I'm not taking that risk, period. Not a judgment about you; it's about protecting myself.
 TedJMill
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Posted: 1/1/2012 11:11:16 AM

I wouldn't want to date anyone that felt they must use a substance to change/enhance the way they think and/or feel.


I take Lexapro, by prescription, for anxiety. How would you feel about that?
 dsljim
Joined: 7/2/2011
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Posted: 1/1/2012 11:53:24 AM
Heartburn is now acid reflux disease and there's a drug for it.
I used to get heartburn when I ate food from a restaurant or from the store, mostly from canned/ highly processed food, and I would eat ice cream to settle my stomach.
Now I grow and cook my food and eat homemade ice cream, because I like the taste of ice cream.
During prohibition, alcohol was illegal, but now that it's great source of tax dollars and causes all kinds of problems it's OK because its legal.
Maybe pof should have. " Do not contact if you ever did one thing that was then or now considered illegal "
 AddHomonym
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Posted: 1/1/2012 5:47:13 PM
All the answer to this question does is indicate whether or not more clarity is necessary. That's all.


This is exactly the problem as I see it. Because I am honest and upfront about my choice to deal with pain through marijuana, I won't ever have a chance to offer any clarity since I am forbidden from initiating any contact whatsoever.

The only chance to have a conversation with a woman about this issue (other than this forum obviously) would be to wait around until one of these women who are opposed to drug use, stumbles across my profile, overlooks the "Often uses drugs" part at the top of my profile and then reads my profile to understand what I mean by "Often uses drugs".

I won't hold my breath.

 AddHomonym
Joined: 12/26/2011
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Posted: 1/1/2012 7:51:06 PM
Sahara

Clearly my communication skills need improving. My point is simply that having "Must not do drugs" filters out people that weren't necessarily intended to be excluded by some users.

My hope is that these women might reconsider how their filters are set, in the off chance that they might care to do so.

Entitlement doesn't come into it. Thanks for the profile review, it seems the drug stuff got cut out during one of my many edits over the past few days since I got here.
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