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 svj
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 140
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MsWiz:

Absolutely. Just makin' a lil point. Painting everyone with one brush usually ain't a good idea.

As for how I did it, don't mind me. It's nothin' personal. I just funnin'.

Now where's the merlot???
 svj
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 152
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Posted: 10/18/2007 7:33:20 AM

One I knew got inspired artistically while high and turned this into a pretty good business for a while. He was a lazy couch potato the rest of the time. He wised up and gave it up. He quit doing the artwork and within a few years was regional manager for the the company he worked for. He cared nothing about advancing his career prior to giving up the pot!
So he gave up doing something he loved (which also managed to pay the bills), and chose to pursue a "pay the bills" career instead?

I'm just remarking on the anecdote itself. As I've proven with my own case, 1 piece of anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.

Velo: So he quit pot, set aside the creativity that made him unique, and decided to become like everyone else?
Now I realize that my perspective is probably a little different from the average person's... but that doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement.
 beachdancer
Joined: 6/5/2007
Msg: 153
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Posted: 10/18/2007 9:27:43 AM
svj
8 glasses of wine a day makes... a cougar!


Why you little brat!

However, if you love being stoned, go to a shrink and tell him you're nuts. There's tons of legal highs. Zanex, Zoloft, etc.

zanex and zoloft do not make you high. zanex is an anitanxiety and zoloft is cousin to prozac which replaces seritonin in the brain.
 svj
Joined: 9/15/2007
Msg: 157
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Posted: 10/18/2007 10:08:53 AM

The art by itself never even came close to paying the bills.
Aaaaahhh... gotcha. Thought I might have been missing something.
 jelydonut
Joined: 7/27/2006
Msg: 162
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Posted: 10/18/2007 1:28:52 PM
Yes, Everyone is entitled to their opinon. But this "cause it's illegal" excuse is rather sad. I can understand if it is a personal choice or whatever, but to choose what is right for your own life based off of what the corrupted government says is another.

Oh.. I hope those with that excuse also refrain from anal sex in many states as that is illegal as well. You wouldn't want to put your life and family at risk. Oh.. and don't be gay in some countries either.

jelydonut
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 171
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Posted: 10/18/2007 4:17:08 PM
GOOD QUESTION!

The problem with the word 'drug' is that it creates an emotional response and oftentimes individuals make up their own definition to suit their beliefs. Why don't we start in the dictionary? And then move on to basic logic?

Source: Webster's Dictionary

Drug: (noun)
1) A substance used in medicines or making medicines for internal or external use (according to the Food Drug & Cosmetic Act).
2) A substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary.
3) A substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease in man or other animal.
4) A substance intended for use as a medecine.
5) A narcotic substance or preparation.
6) Something that is narcotic in it's effect.

(So according to #6 love is a drug)

Is the following logical thinking or not? You tell me.
Heroin is a bad drug therfore all drugs are bad.
Mike is a bad man therefore all drugs are bad.
Jane is a bad woman therefore all women are bad
Jimmy used drugs, Jimmy is a bad man therefore all people who use drugs are bad.

Bill Clinton smoked pot, pot is a drug, drugs are bad therfore Bill Clinton is bad.
George Bush used cocaine, cocaine kills therefore George Bush is a killer
I took morphine for my pain, morphine is a drug, drugs are bad, therfore I am bad.

Should I continue?
 fancynanci
Joined: 8/21/2007
Msg: 172
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Posted: 10/18/2007 4:27:25 PM
I smoke pot on occasion and I have an INCREDIBLE sex drive!!!!
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
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Posted: 10/18/2007 4:32:59 PM
And......just one more post on this subject:

And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Genesis 1: 29

And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.
Genesis 1: 30

God in his infinite wisdom and omnipotence created marijuana and gave it to humankind and said it was good.

Mankind disagreed with God and makes laws that sends teenagers to prison for life to be raped because they smoked a herb that God is o.k. with.


So........do you think I might get some 'interesting' responses to this post?......lol


yours truly


A Christian
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 175
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Posted: 10/18/2007 5:03:02 PM
Hey Meface........

you say you are a public high school teacher. Girl! You cannot spell.

cannabis not canabis
licence not lisence

Additionally, your sentence structure is poor.............Oh hey, did you know that smoking pot will help with your spelling and grammar?
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 176
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Posted: 10/18/2007 5:13:45 PM
Now I'm really embarassed, I just critiqued meface for grammar and spelling errors and find i committed the same sin in a previous post.......maybe if I do enough drugs I can erase it from my memory.....................lol
 weeping willow
Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 10/19/2007 8:58:22 AM
i am both disappointed and enlightened from this conversation. yes pot is a drug but so is anything that alters your mental state, even chocolate! many NATURAL (not processed) drugs have positive effects on the body after all what would we ever do without our orange mold being discovered to be an antibotic. in the origional bible there was 13 referancs to pot including religous figures anointing themselves with oils from the plant. i wish i had the article handy. when i was 14 my family dr actually recommended that i smoke it for health reasons.
when my grandmother died the drs told me that thc is best in its natural form not perscribed. my grandfather an old jewish man who does not believe in even smoking or drinking gave me money to go but some to blow into my grandmothers face.
i would much rather date a pothead with a job, place of their own, etc... the date a guy on antidepressents.
 weeping willow
Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 10/19/2007 11:42:01 AM
what if the person used it as part of their religion? up for a spirit walk anyone?
 FescheLola
Joined: 10/15/2007
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Posted: 10/19/2007 11:50:43 AM
Because I don't like burn outs.

That clarify things?
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 10/19/2007 12:00:23 PM

do you consider cannabis a drug?
Yes


And if you use this contact restriction, why do you use it?
I do not use ''Must not do drugs'' as a contact restriction, but still do not want to be affiliated with people who even use cannabis recreationally.
 FescheLola
Joined: 10/15/2007
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Posted: 10/19/2007 12:16:57 PM

Do I look like a burn out to you..





You _really_ want me to answer that?


Look slappy, it was a dumb question to begin with. Consider it a drug or not some people dont like it, just like some people dont like smoking, Some people dont like drinking.

Its legally considered a "drug" doesnt matter if it is isnt, who cares. Why not ask POA to add a "No Cannabis Users" if it being under the drug veil offends you so much.
 weeping willow
Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 10/20/2007 6:34:48 AM
since restrictions have come up why can't i block people that drink. i have no urge to be around people tat get drunk even if it is on occasion. most people have lowered ambitions when drinking and act like fools. however if i did meet someone who drinks and controls themselves well on it i would bend. when smoking daily i have dated enviromental lawyers as well as cops which didn't smoke they just asked me not to around them and it was all good. you should be dating a person for their personality. discrediting all those who smoke is the acts of a person who is closed minded.

pot does not lead to other drugs. i know many people in their 50's that have never tried anything but pot. i also know people tht have never smoked but their drinking has lead to them using cocaine. yes there is a corolation between pot and other drugs but it is not the pot's fault that people with problems are the ones exposed to the media. u never hear the stories about the pot smoker who has never been arrested.
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 203
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Posted: 10/20/2007 12:40:59 PM
Interesting forum, don't you think? one of the recurring themes appears to be the legality or morality of using certain substances. Many posters seem to equate obeying the law as a moral act - disobeying the law as immoral. I am a student of history and believe in a higher power. May I offer the following observations?

At one time in the U.S. of A consuming alcohol was illegal and punishable by incarceration, so, if my granny drank in the 20's should I block her calls 'cause she is immoral and degenerate?

For many years it was legal to own slaves, according to many in this forum, disagreement with this federal law would define one as immoral.

Other interesting prohibitions (both federal and state) were laws against oral sex (fellatio and cunnilingus), anal sex and inter-racial marriage. All these "criminal" acts were punishable by jail time. My understanding is that some states still hold on to some of these laws.?

During the seventies when the U.S. was involved in the Vietnam war young Americans were required by law to enlist in the military, refusal to do so was punishable by jail time. Thousands of young Americans who protested against these conscription laws would clearly be considered 'immoral' by many of the posters on this forum. You may recall one fairly famous dissenter, his name was Muhammed Ali, The government prohibited him from pursuing his career in boxing and pressed criminal charges. Does any one recall what he said? "......no Viet-cong ever called me a n****r", do any of you really believe that Mr. Ali is an immoral man because he defied conscription laws?

It is also my understanding that the current president of the U.S. has admitted to cocaine use, does that make him immoral? A degenerate?

While we are on the subject of immorality, if you are aware that, an individual uses an illegal substance are you immoral if you support them financially? Cases in point, many artists admit to marijuana use, some admit to using meth, cocaine, and a host of other prescription drugs. So, if I purchase a Britney Spears CD, download a song by 'Fiddy', buy my friend an Amy Winehouse concert ticket or purchase a Bob Marley album am I immoral?

As to the POF filters.......I just wish there was a way to block narrow minded bigots and those incapable of deductive reasoning.

yours truly

just a guy that smokes pot occaissionally and thinks all the time
 Sniper308
Joined: 10/21/2004
Msg: 220
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Posted: 10/21/2007 7:58:09 AM

... what about people who smoke cannabis? do you consider cannabis a drug?

And if you use this contact restriction, why do you use it?


To answer these questions:

I don't want to be around anyone using drugs as a crutch to get through life. I use the restriction because anyone using drugs (to include smoking pot) has a behavior I loathe... to include someone who just "experimented with it in high school." I want nothing to do with such people.
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
Msg: 224
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Posted: 10/21/2007 10:37:25 AM
Dear velobob,

re: your post, see excerpt below, you seem to be emotionally rather than intellectually involved in this thread.

"If you actually "smoke pot occasionally and think all the time", then use some of those brain cells to instruct us sheep why we are making a mistake."


At no time have I advocated the use of marijuana, and I have not posited that you are making a mistake by not smoking. And, I have no wish to convince any one as to how they should conduct their affairs or 'convince' you that non pot smoking is a mistake. My posts are intended to stimulate an INFORMED debate on the issue.

My comment re 'narrow minded bigots" referred to the issue of POF filters and the types of individuals I would like to block,........not to those who abstain or are opposed to THC use......as I said, you are emotionally involved.

I have very strong views on many issues, including alcohol use, racial harmony, children's welfare, the drug industry (whom I consider to be the real "pushers"), animal welfare, politics among others. However I find prosetylizing or otherwise preaching to be counter-productive. I understand that others have differing opinions and believe that constructive debate is healthy.

The issue of drug use is fascinating to me.......north america is drowning in a sea of drugs; anti-depressants and other mood altering drugs, pain killers, OTC medicines, steroids, ritalin, tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, HGH, viagara etc. We are bombarded with media messages that promote happiness thru pharmaceuticals yet our political machine has chosen to demonize a relatively benign drug.

Everyone who has an awareness of current events can see that young men worship the achievements of football players, track athletes, baseball players and the like. Now high school kids eat steroids like M & M's so they can be like their sport heroes.

The history of marijuana prohibition has it's roots in racism, political ambition and economic gain for the established 'ruling class' not empirical science.

It may be difficult for some people to understand that an opinion that differs from theirs is not necessarily 'wrong'........only different. That the recreational use of alcohol or pot does not make one 'bad', or that that abstinence may not make you 'good'.

I do not ask of anyone that they use pot........only that they use their brain,

Still thinking/still smoking (once in a while)
 Djonna
Joined: 7/14/2007
Msg: 227
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Posted: 10/21/2007 4:56:59 PM
ok.... I just learned what cannabis is? lol.... Never heard of it called that.
 Djonna
Joined: 7/14/2007
Msg: 228
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Posted: 10/21/2007 5:00:38 PM
I think one of the most important things that we lack as people is the ability to respect others opinions on subjects of debate. We all have our own opinions and for whatever reasons we choose to have those opinions, but we should look at some of the posts in forums as a debatable topic and not that of someone forcing any certain subject on another. Forums are for discussion and I think we need to be doing just that and not criticizing others for their own beliefs and/or opinions. I see a lot of bashing in forums which it totally unnecessary. Society lacks something called respect and human decency.
 KFGuy
Joined: 8/15/2005
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Posted: 10/21/2007 11:26:12 PM
Hi velobob,

thanks for your response, if I am ever in Alabama we should get together for a bike ride,

yours in health


M
 RidingRich
Joined: 9/21/2007
Msg: 235
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Posted: 10/22/2007 1:57:15 PM
I'm still thinking on taking bets on which profile the OP wanted to email but had a 'must not do drugs' restriction on it.


so.. only looked back 3-4 pages and haven't seen much in the way if intelligent debate from the local potheads and burnouts. have they come up with anything but dogma and derision yet?
 averageblonde222
Joined: 10/16/2007
Msg: 237
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Posted: 10/22/2007 2:38:00 PM
I wouldn't date any man that smokes weed just like I wouldn't date a man that smokes cigarettes. It smells and I don't like getting second hand smoke.
 weeping willow
Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 10/23/2007 1:40:15 PM
for those still stuck of the issue of smoke use a vaporizer. es it is an investiment but much healthier for your body.
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