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 DrHipHappy
Joined: 3/11/2007
Msg: 254
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I doubt that anyone on here is totally drug free when we consider all the legal drugs, caffeine and so on. However, for those women who put "must not do drugs" in their "Restrictions" I am likely to pass you by. Such closed mindedness simply means that the woman is too conventional and conservative for me. I am very progressive and have no patience for rigid conformists who trust what the federal government tells them.

Yes I do enjoy marijuana. Did not smoke for about 15 years as I was raising my kids and creating my career. Then I began again about a decade ago. I like it for many reasons. My psychiatrist and chiropractor approve my use so it is medical (even though NC has not yet legalized it like 15 other states.) Marijuana is a natural and versatile plant that is mentioned in the bible and other ancient texts. As a Rastafarian I consider it my sacred right to use this harmless herb.

I am actually pleased with how many women like marijuana but are afraid that "someone" will find out (often their kids.) Sadly, most have no source of this medicinal plant. Most that I have gotten high with have really enjoyed the chance to "smoke again after all these years." It is always less nervous and easier to talk after smoking. Music sounds better and food is awesome. In fact, most of the women who say "must not use drugs" tend to either drink booze and/or smoke tobacco. So that would signify a hypocrite - which is already a "southern belle" art form (along with worrying about what others think.)

The real problem facing society from substance abuse is alcohol. Men beat their wives when drunk - not when high. Drunk drivers lose control - while pot smokers drive carefully to not get caught. Drunk people get angry and sad - pot smokers get happy and hungry. Anyhow I will not date any alcoholics since I have left that shit behind about 27 years ago. They tend to be needy and pitiful. If you wonder about your own drinking than you likely have a problem (like 1 in 4 US drinkers do.)
 nebula22
Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 258
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Posted: 10/24/2007 2:34:20 PM
mi-giv-a-dams-busted.. seems like more than that is busted..
When i was smoking and drinking wine everyday with a couple of gals that lived with me, I was making love 6 hours a day..
Wonder what i would have been doing if i was sober..
That woman need to get a life and stay out of things that she has no clue about..
 undercrimson
Joined: 4/22/2007
Msg: 264
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Posted: 11/3/2007 12:17:53 PM
druggies aren't that bad afterall
 migivadamsbusted
Joined: 4/30/2007
Msg: 265
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Posted: 11/3/2007 12:33:26 PM
hey neb, smoke this...I promise it wont fry whats left of your brain!
 Mike72801
Joined: 10/28/2007
Msg: 268
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Posted: 11/3/2007 7:50:22 PM
I don't get high, but I certainly had a laugh reading all the smokers rationalizing their habit and insulting the straight people.
 dogs rule
Joined: 10/12/2007
Msg: 272
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Posted: 11/4/2007 8:58:18 AM
If it is illegal it is a drug. Someone that says they don't do drugs they only smoke pot, is lying to themselves to justify it.
 Pfm1011
Joined: 9/24/2007
Msg: 273
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Posted: 11/4/2007 9:00:12 AM
I hate that question ..Must not do drugs...I used to smoke pot occasionally. From 89 to 2001 I didnt touch it at all as I was subject to drug testing in my job.

I left the airlines and I was in the netherlands a few years ago and got right stoned

I literally havent smoked a joint in 4 years but If someone pulled out one at a party I would probably smoke one.
I have no objection to someone I date smoking pot but dont want a crack head or someone who does ex. The Must not do drugs should have a 420 friendly ( means pots ok) and the must not do drugs options.

There is an absolutely huge difference from someone who smokes a joint and crack head. Its as big a difference as virgin and porn star.

On a side note:

The risk of using cocaine is estimated to be more than 104 times greater for those who have tried marijuana than for those who have never tried it

Gateway drug argument is the dumbest crap..It is as accurate as
100 % of serial killers have watched a bugs bunny cartoon ..therefore we can clearly state that bugs bunny turns people into serial killers BAN BUGS BUNNY



 Mike72801
Joined: 10/28/2007
Msg: 274
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Posted: 11/4/2007 10:04:27 AM

That's because "straight" people...the kind who live totally organically, who put nothing but clean whole foods in their system, are in fact the minority.


What dictionary did you get that definition out of? In the context of this discussion it is defined by Merriam-Webster as:


"g (1): exhibiting no deviation from what is established or accepted as usual, normal, or proper : conventional; also : square 5f (2): not using or under the influence of drugs or alcohol "
 Bright Delight 4 U
Joined: 12/29/2004
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Posted: 11/4/2007 3:29:17 PM
I've seen irrelevant comments before, but these ones takes the cake.

O.P. This is a very complicated question on this site. Think of ALL the reasons people put, 'must not do drugs'. There are many. Personally, I find the formating of the Personal Profile question ridiculous.
It has only one answer if a fellow wants to contact A LOT of the ladies.
I Fully Understand the Ladies being Cautious, and saying, 'NO Drugs'.
No Lady has ANY use for a 'Hard Drug User'. That also goes for 'A Chronic Cannabis User', as it is a crutch for psychological issues, just as the 'hard' drug users.
Nobody is born a drug 'user'. It's might be a defence from 'trauma' that gets carried away, or starts from' peer pressure', or some other reasons. I am including Alcohol, and Medicinal drugs.

I find the ratio of people that say, 'NO drugs' Extremely Higher than the 'average' ratio of both Canadian & American National Statistics. Taking the dynamics & using mathematics proves that a LOT of POF'ers do smoke pot to some degree.
I might not agree, except the differences are off the scale that show the answer.
That's even with a 'weighted' 'non user' amount.

So............, how many really do? The answer nobody wants to let out of the closet.

Occasional smoking of 'pot' has no justification being a 'deal breaker'. A separate item would be more appropriate.

ALSO, what about Medical Marijuanna in Canada??
'Compassion Pot' is low priced & potent, and not too hard to get. In B.C. is grown some of the most potent pot in the world. Simple 'possession of a small amount for personal use', isn't even written up if you ever get 'busted'. Have a bit more than the Officer cares for and you appear in court and get a $100.00 fine.

Many very mportant people in the world all smoke pot. That is true.
Many of the people you consider 'Celebrities', for whatever reason; more than probably smokes pot. Also true.

I don't feel that a person on this site ought to be surprised if they find out the other does smoke pot. No matter what their age.

Mr. Booze
Alcohol is a poison. Alcohol is one molecule from being fatal. Both true.
Alcohol is the most denied problem in the world.
Alcohol is the most abused drug in the world.
Alcohol causes the most abuse in the world.
Alcoholism is 'Legal' !?!?

Something to consider in the big picture.
 Bright Delight 4 U
Joined: 12/29/2004
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Posted: 11/4/2007 4:24:35 PM
This is the Tale of Truth.

MJ was grown and used as hemp to make rope, and clothing, and has many, many uses. It was used for centuries for these purposes.
This type of Cannabis wasn't the typical smoking strain. It was very weak in
THC Delta 8.
Smoking MJ was identified by trial and error a long, long time ago, and has been popular for centuries.

Hemp MJ grew wild along the roadsides early last century. Some was smoking type.
You can smoke 'hemp' type, however, it's was altered to not produce DELTA 8 THC.
Consider Cannabis's ability to proliferate, and cross-breed. The real push behind plant genetic research. Hemp with D. 8 THC is as not good for it's multiple uses. So hemp & the world got along just fine.

What happened?

One of the Greatest Marketing Scams of All Time.

All the people involved in a part of the production got together and literally over-ran the govenment like never before.
Imagine the power and money involved to get a Federal Goverment of more than one country to eliminate and control an organic plant because some folks working with petroleum products discover, Plastic !! A type of plastic replaced hemp rope, and the more ways it was useful for grew & grew.
Where does plastic come from: oil
It's a longer story than this, so look it up & see for yourselves
 Mike72801
Joined: 10/28/2007
Msg: 279
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Posted: 11/4/2007 5:06:15 PM
What happened to personal choice? If I don't want to date a pot smoker I am a hypocrite? It is like a re-education program in here. Sorry, no smokers for me.
 Pfm1011
Joined: 9/24/2007
Msg: 282
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Posted: 11/4/2007 7:39:57 PM
White night..You are reading the evil the wrong way.. The banning of Pot has nothing to do with Plastic..The hemp excuse is just a rediculous dream of pot heads to : A sell sh*t for 10 times the price to idiot tree huggers and pot heads who believe they are making a statement by paying 30 dollars for a hat made of hemp

B: The dream of one day having giant hemp fields ..so I can sneak the real pot plants in there and not be detected by the infrared scanner

The actual reason pot was banned was that during the great depression (1932 I believe it was placed on the controlled list)there were millions of mexican workers in the country, they smoked alot of pot. In order to get them to go back to mexico the government banned pot and then placed huge jail terms on for possesion of it. There were some mexicans who spent over 50 years in US jails on Possession charges. All the mexican workers went back to mexico as clearly the Americans were insane.

As rediculous as it all sounds. It is 100% true..check it out ( Cant blame oil on this one)
 Bright Delight 4 U
Joined: 12/29/2004
Msg: 283
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Posted: 11/4/2007 10:51:11 PM
PFM1011

I might be more likely to give credence to your diatribe, if you made any sense, and could write. With your comment, it seems a challenge to doubt my veracity.

It was Mr. Hearst, his Co-horts of $$, & Oil, & Plastic, and Greed.
 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 11/4/2007 11:19:36 PM
No Poppy

" Opium and coke come from plants but they are chemically manufactured. If you just eat a poppy it isn't going to make you high. "

Just in case someone who might be facing any kind of drug testing for any reason reads this and thinks this is true - it isn't. I run a sober home and my ladies do not eat anything with poppyseeds cause they might test dirty if they do.

I don't limit myself to illegal drugs banning. I don't want to attempt a relationship with anyone who is currently on one of the drug****ails the psych wards are so "into" prescribing. Single drugs for physiologically based illnesses like bipolar or schizophrenia I encourage. Body chemistry alignment. It is the mood altering drug****ails I want nothing to do with. One bad experience of such people after another has made me unwilling to take on that negative baggage again. People drugged out on prescriptive drugs can't get healthy any more than the ones on illegal drugs - brains are too fried.

Gandi
 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 11/4/2007 11:31:28 PM
Separate question

"Occasional smoking of 'pot' has no justification being a 'deal breaker'. A separate item would be more appropriate. "

Since it does not for you and it does for me, I'd appreciate having the clarification added so that I can avoid people who do more than drink socially, smokers (pot or otherwise) and could we also have prescriptive mood altering drugs as a check box? When I meet them I can also weed out the ones addicted to energy drinks and other high amounts of caffeine or who have figured out some other way to numb out instead of dealing with life.

I certainly agree that everything I put on or in my body alters my body chemistry and could alter my thinking ability. I'm just elminating the obvious ones in advance.
 dogs rule
Joined: 10/12/2007
Msg: 286
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Posted: 11/5/2007 9:32:12 AM
"Occasional smoking of 'pot' has no justification being a 'deal breaker'. A separate item would be more appropriate. "

I have to agree with cnc. Doing drugs is doing drugs, no matter how often. I don't want to be with someone that does drugs and that includes smoking one joint with her friends once a year. That is doing drugs
 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 11/5/2007 11:53:27 PM
Hypocritical is probably an understatement. My father climbed out of the alcohol bottle and into the Bible... and self-destructively so. Numbed himself totally. Try being raised by someone zoned out on a Bible. Can't leave it to that. I had no real appreciation for anorexia belimia until I tried to live with someone who suffered from that disease. I've met an emotional drama addict that does a lot of damage with it - and is very exhausting to be around. The debters are just frigtening to me. Oh, and then there are the controlaholics.

Personally, I don't bother telling anybody what they should or should not do. I'm sitting here talking myself into not having a piece of leftover holloween candy this late. No stone throwing from here. However, if the issue is identifying deal breakers then how long a list of "unacceptables" do we want to have to go through in finding a mate?
 Bright Delight 4 U
Joined: 12/29/2004
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Posted: 11/6/2007 11:22:51 PM
cNk; I think you mean, "any" pot smoker & I go along with you on the rest.

Where I see an issue is that a pot smoker appears to be seen as some kind of brain dead, back-alley, wacko, mentally disturbed, freak.

Well, that's a very small percentage. Similar to any other abused chemical. That's exactly what they all are. Used by most & abused by few.

What scares me is all the drinkers of alcohol. The leading cause of death in the world, yet it is 'okay' to drink a poison that kills your liver from releasing masses of chemicals to keep it from killing you. Ever wonder why there are 'hangovers'? The after effects of the poison. Interesting that drinking is so popular with what you would consider 'normal' people. They're obviously mentally deranged to drink poison. If not for 1 enzyme from your liver, and alcohol being 1 molecule from being fully fatal, you folk would all be dead.
Then the incredibly less harmful cannabis will be smoked while the graves are dug for people that are actually commiting low grade suicide, same as tobacco users. Doesn't anyone pay attention to all the, 'Don't drink & drive, and many, many more Warnings! The plain stupidity of boozers is rather amusing to someone who's had a toke or three. One drink per hour is purported as the 'safe limt'. You could smoke a small pile of pot and still shake it of with an adrenaline rush. Not so with booze. Until your liver can stop all the poisoning, your not much good for anythng. Don't forget losing control of your emotions. Not so with pot.
Scary thought for you: If you take a taxi home from being out drinking, the odds are very high that your driver is high.
Ya, I know I'm ranting like crazy, however, it's all the silly notions people have about different things that bothers me. I won't go out with a 'chronic, or 'addicted' person, no matter what it is. That includes, uninformed, narrow-minded, predjudicial, and judgemental women. <
Notice that not one 'smoker' on this thread has been defensive, or aggressive?
Can the same be said for the rest?

Everthing in moderation, including moderation.
 lancelotfl
Joined: 9/28/2006
Msg: 305
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Posted: 11/12/2007 8:05:58 AM
In my case it has nothing to do with whether drugs are legal or not. If you want to sove the "drug problem", legalize drugs. If you take the profit motive away, you eliminate a lot of crime, as well as crooked politicians, cops and judges on the take.

I prefer to have people in my life that are not chemically enhanced. People who get joy out of life, not a chemical.

I also have to wonder just how honest people really are and would willingly certify that they do drugs.

I consider marijuana a drug. If you're taking it to get high, rather than medicinally, you're no better than anyone drinking alcohol to excess. I don't want a drunk in my life either. I was raised by one and married to one at one point in my life. I've paid my dues on that score.
 nebula22
Joined: 8/14/2007
Msg: 310
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Posted: 11/15/2007 9:15:21 AM
How about this????... Do You believe in education??...Yes you say? Well then..
EDUCATE YOURSELF.!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.jackherer.com
Go there if you realy believe in education.. Put your money where your mouth is...
I Dare all of you.!! And if you have the nerve to do it, be sure to follow all links ..
 galaxie
Joined: 9/2/2007
Msg: 311
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Posted: 11/15/2007 9:57:26 AM
Yes cannabis is a drug maybe not a bad as some of the bigger ones like crack or meth but for me I don't need any of that stuff in my life,for some people its minor and stays that way but for others it leads to more. I don't want to be out somewhere and get stopped by police and have any issues, unless you grow it yourself the dealer sells the hard stuff and I don't need them around me . I could go into more details but I'm talking from experience where a ex did drug s I didn't but had to deal with crap that went with it .
 countrycanuck85
Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 11/16/2007 2:04:55 PM

From my understanding, anyone who uses the words "must not do drugs" without any extra info, means "must not do any thing the government calls an illegal drug". That doesn't include coffee or sugar, which are both toxic drugs.


Exactly, I'm not going to risk my job or my morales to date some stinky, fried pothead, methhead, crackhead or anything resembling any of those. I don't want to have conversations about how the pink monkeys are mating with the purple elephants, or how the government has put tracking devices under our fingernails.

And like a few others have said, just because pot is a plant, does not make it any less retarded. Cocaine and heroin both come from plants, and I would treat all with the same disrespect.
 countrycanuck85
Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 11/16/2007 5:18:23 PM

and cigarettes - dont forget the ciggies :P
ohhhhhhhhh but i forgot .... its leeeeegal, ahhhhhhhhhh gimme the good ole days when ya could hop in ya pick up truck and go out and shoot some nig...... oh ... never mind....


My point proven once again...you really CAN'T grow those brain cells back again, can you?
 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 11/16/2007 6:34:46 PM
"What scares me is all the drinkers of alcohol. The leading cause of death in the world"

I am anti-excessive drinking (own a sober living home). However, I'd like to know the source of this statistic. I searched and found a site http://www.paho.org/English/DD/PIN/whd04_features.htm for 2004 that said in 2001 the world leading cause was traffic accidents - some of which included DUI related accidents, but nowhere near all of them. Now, DUI was listed as the leading cause for young people in Finland ... but breast cancer was for women in Shanghai. Ok, I will stop playing.

Having multiple people around me recently diagnosed with various cancers and diabetes I am sensitized more to the diet related behaviors that are going to (per news hype) result in the next generation having a shorter lifespan than mine has.
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 countrycanuck85
Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 11/17/2007 9:11:20 AM
See, I'm not a big fan of smokers or social drinkers either (just to set the record straight), BUT if it was the right person, I wouldn't have any qualms about dating them, solely based on either of those two factors. Neither of them would compromise my job or my morals.

Now on the other hand, ILLEGAL drugs would do both. Plus, if you're only having a few drinks or cigs, you aren't fu.cked in the head for life.
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