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 outofthedesert
Joined: 6/3/2008
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Esperanza wanted to write you directly but your filters have blocked me. You are dead on with a great many of your posts.

The loss of Freedom of Choice is what you got when you promised to obey........

Never said it in my vows because I never intended to do that part. I want to be a partner not a servant.

Couple of my guy-pals have stated they want a partner but that a great many of the women they have met are like steamrollers...........

I think I will give up dating for lent and start 6 months early.............lent is always easier when you give up something you aren't doing or don't like............
 browneyesboo
Joined: 5/19/2005
Msg: 702
Why are women over 40 so desperate to get married?
Posted: 9/15/2009 9:32:18 AM
I'd get married again...but I'm not desperate to.
I'd also be happy not being married again.
But it would be nice to know that there is someone
out there that would marry me even if we never did.

I don't think marriage is a bad thing...at least it wasn't
for me.
 Eowyn Bennett
Joined: 5/24/2005
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Posted: 10/7/2009 1:05:50 AM
I am 52. Was married for 20 years.
Will NEVER EVER get married again. Marriage was the dumbest thing I ever did. (Other than the kids. )
Why any divorced woman would want to do it over again, i don't know.
 ladyluck09
Joined: 3/30/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 1:59:21 AM
so let me get this straight--we ALL juss want a relationship where we see a guy a couple of nites a week??--he lives in his house and i live in mine , and i dont have to cook his meals or wash his drawers??---damn no wonder i cant find a man who wants this, u girls have grabbed them all up!! lol
 rearguard*2
Joined: 2/8/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 5:59:46 AM
Interesting....women who want "long term" but would never get married again. Wonder how that works out.....

A guy has to commit himself to all the obligations but should not expect any of the benefits?
 blondblueyed
Joined: 8/23/2005
Msg: 706
Why are women over 40 so desperate to get married?
Posted: 10/7/2009 6:21:04 AM

A guy has to commit himself to all the obligations but should not expect any of the benefits?


I haven’t heard but a handful of men view being married as a benefit, in well over a decade, especially if they are divorced. This is one of the main issues, for the most part as young women it was viewed as a wonderful thing to fall in love, marry and possibly start a family. We used to hear terms such as “better half”, “little woman”, “love of my life”, now all we hear is “tied down”, “Femi-Nazi” and “gold digger”, sure that makes us all want to rush out and pick out a china pattern. Much of this has turned women off from even dating let alone getting married.
 Phoebe48
Joined: 12/5/2007
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:26:51 AM

A guy has to commit himself to all the obligations


What obligations are you talking about?........'plain please.


but should not expect any of the benefits?


I presume you're referring to the "benefits of marriage"........but I may be wrong.........I've been known to be........ Could you expand on what you mean by "benefits"?

Signed,
An over 60 woman who's NOT desperate to get married.......
 rearguard*2
Joined: 2/8/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:41:25 AM
Just a reaction to a woman who's profile requests "long term", meaning monogamy, commitment, intimacy and friendship, while stating she would never wish to marry ever again.

I think that people this age should be pretty well aware of what the obligations of marriage are. Most places you are legally tied up with someone for the rest of your life. As to the benefits, they are reciprocal in the legal sense, and have a lot of pleasant characteristics otherwise. Again, if you are 60 and don't recognize any of the benefits of marriage, then I would say you definitely should not be in any hurry to marry. I would also suggest that asking for long term is pretty inconsistent.

This is not to say that I believe marriage to be in any way essential to a relationship. Only that I don't see a lot of difference between my interpretation of long term and what used to be described as marriage. To me, if you spend a decade with someone in an intimate relationship, its just a marriage by another name. If it isn't, then what is the difference?
 outdoorgirlsunshine
Joined: 8/21/2007
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:50:24 AM
Phoebe, I'm in agreement. Marriage doesn't make the committment, the people make the committment!. You can be in an exclusive long term relationship with all the benefits! (if sex is what your talking about) without being married. Now, if you're talking about inheritance, you should have your own. Mine will go to my kids. See, they have stood by me unconditionally all their lives.

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 outdoorgirlsunshine
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:52:19 AM
Oh, and P.S. I was married @ 40 and single in late 50's, so not desperate here!
I do think if you're divorced at 40 and a female, you might think you life is over, so you must hurry to find another mate. Now when they reach 50, they will change their minds.

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 bkind2
Joined: 10/4/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 7:11:57 AM
well im over 40yrs and im not desperate to get married, with the crap ive had it would be a long time before i would venture down the church. i would have to be sure he was the one, so it would be how ever long it takes before i would say yes, so not all women over 40yrs want to jump straight to marrige. dont give up on us mature ladies.
 rearguard*2
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Posted: 10/7/2009 7:42:53 AM
Well, I guess I just missed the theme of the thread as to being about legal marriage, as distinct from a steady relationship. I would never get legally married again either. Mainly because the concept of marriage has been eroded to the meaningless. These days its just a money making machine for churches and lawyers, with far too many personal hazards and virtually no benefits, at least in the legal sense.
 kari135
Joined: 9/1/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 8:10:44 AM
I was married twice. The first time was a disaster, and I take at least some of the blame because I was just too young and naive to recognize him for the jerk he was. Oh yeah, benefits... he showed up with various men who handed me things to sign, it was a "formality" because we were married. i ended up with the 'benefit' of being responsible for his debts. And paying for the divorce.

The second time, he wasn't a jerk, he suited me to a T. But one of the "benfits" was untangling a mess of back taxes and money owed to the IRS. That only took a couple of years, but I did get it cleared up. The real benefit? Someone who always put me first. He may or may not have looked at other women - he was human, after all - but all he did was look. He was loyal to ME, and I never had any doubts about that. I think I was 40 or 41 when we got married - and we still would be if he hadn't died.

I like living with a man, but I'm still leery of the legal comittment of marriage. It would take a very special man to convince me it could work.

Desperate? No. Open to possibilities? Yes.
 Discerning Virtuosa
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Posted: 10/7/2009 8:15:57 AM

Well, I guess I just missed the theme of the thread as to being about legal marriage, as distinct from a steady relationship. I would never get legally married again either. Mainly because the concept of marriage has been eroded to the meaningless. These days its just a money making machine for churches and lawyers, with far too many personal hazards and virtually no benefits, at least in the legal sense.

It doesn't matter what it means to churches and lawyers, or what someone elses concept is, all that matters is what it means to me and the person I would be considering it with.
 msprof
Joined: 7/1/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 10:32:28 PM
This is interesting to me, as I feel that men are usually the ones looking for someone to marry. My interest is in dating, but I usually see men post long term as a desire.

I'm not sure as to why the women you chose wanted to get married. Is it that you are just too desirable?

Yes. I would prefer to go slow.
 msprof
Joined: 7/1/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 10:35:09 PM
Wow! I agree with you. I really never wnat to get married again either. Once was plenty for me. You are right; it is a money making machine.. Why should people need a license to be together?
 daffie
Joined: 8/1/2007
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Posted: 10/7/2009 11:51:38 PM
are they?
geez...i never knew that...

then again...
i don't have any desperate friends...male or female....

maybe you should acquaint yourself with a different type of woman...
one who is happy and doesn't need any ol' man to complete her world...

(we are around you know...
millions of us...lol)

you should also think about bottling that hunkiness and charm you obviously have...
maybe you could do the right thing and share it with the less fortunate among your fellow pofers...
 Eowyn Bennett
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Posted: 10/8/2009 12:04:15 AM
Kari, first I would like to extend my regrets to you on the death of your late husband.

Then... I have been reading the responses to my note yesterday.

I see no real difference between marriage and living together. Except a lot of money spent on churches and caterers. Once we have lived together for a short time all the "benefits'" of marriage are there. Protection for ourselves, our property, our children.

Most people of our age have some form of property by now... maybe a house? We should not get into any long term relationship, legal marriage involved or not, without making an agreement ahead of time on... property split in case of break up. Keeping our children first in line for inheritance, etc. I have a house and land, made a promise to my parents and my ex that my children would inherit it and that IS going to happen, no matter how starry eyed I might get.

So... I have protection for my property, protection for my children, protection in case the guy turns out to be violent or creepy in any way. Why marry?
If you have a firm commitment to the church, then, I can see it, it is a way of declaring your relationship before God.
I am agnostic, not declaring my relationship or anything else to a Lord who I have such firm doubts in.

Give me a good reason for marriage.
 rearguard*2
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Posted: 10/8/2009 5:19:16 AM

maybe you should acquaint yourself with a different type of woman...
one who is happy and doesn't need any ol' man to complete her world...


And why would such a woman have any interest in having a relationship with a man? Sex?

I should think that most men would be looking for a woman who wants to build a new and complete world with a male partner. Something that is more than their individual worlds.
 Phoebe48
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Posted: 10/8/2009 6:09:29 AM

And why would such a woman have any interest in having a relationship with a man? Sex?


Well, "making love" would probably be one reason.........for as long as "it" might last. The inability, on the part of a man in his late 50's and 60's and older, to physically, sexually perform, could and potentially does, become an issue in a relationship.
In answer to your question.........why would a woman have any interest in having a relationship? The answers are as varied as the individuality of women.

Why would a man have any interest in having a relationship with a woman? Sex?
See how shallow this question sounds?

Going to pour myself another cuppa java.............scratchin' my head??
 rearguard*2
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Posted: 10/8/2009 6:19:15 AM
Context, Pheobe, you have to ask the question in its context. Leaving out "such a woman" sort of makes your question tangential.

Indeed, I am sure that there are many men who are happy and complete in their lives as singles, who would be quite happy to have a relationship with a woman for sex. In the context of my original post, that would indeed be shallow, and that would indeed have been my point.
 Phoebe48
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Posted: 10/8/2009 6:55:29 AM
My apologies Mr. RG.........clearly I missed it's context re: "such a woman". In the future, I'll respond to posts, after having my second cuppa java. I missed the ball, for sure.

Of course, my apology was not complete enough to post the first time. Hence, the need for this additional diatribe.
Again...........mea culpa.
 xam elcnu
Joined: 8/12/2009
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Posted: 10/8/2009 11:26:27 AM
>>Why are women over 40 so desperate to get married?<<

...Because they miss that feeling of being in control.

You see, from 20 to 40, men actually believe relationships are 50/50, a shared compromise by each partner.

...But after 40, after most men's mid life crisis...men wisen up and realize that the 50/50 shared compromise was really more like..."she gets what she wants and he gets what she wants."

shhhhhhh, I let the cat out of the bag.

UM

 Sassysouthernbelle762
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Posted: 10/8/2009 12:01:22 PM
I have been divorced for 27 years and haven't been in a rush to get remarried in 27 years, lol We both made a huge mistake but he has gotten married twice since our divorce.
I will consider marriage under certain conditions:
1. He must be a Billion with no heirs
2. He must be over 95 years of age
3. He must give me all of his money BEFORE we get married.
4. He must croak before it's time to consumate the marriage

JUST KIDDING, lol
 kari135
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Posted: 10/8/2009 12:14:05 PM
""Kari, first I would like to extend my regrets to you on the death of your late husband.""

Thanks. By the end it was a relief to both of us, but at least he got to stay home until the very end.

""Give me a good reason for marriage.""

Depending on the laws in your state (if you live in the US), you may already be married by common law. It can be a real bugger to untangle such a situation. Divorce can be easy in comparison. I used to know a lawyer who was one of the most relaxed, laid back people I've ever known, unless that particular subject came up. It's fairly common, or was, in Alaska, but it wasn't the state that created the problems, it was insurance companies. Imagine having two people living together, having children together, homestead and fishing gear together, then having one of them die. Usually the insurance company pays off as though it were to a spouse/surviving children, but there are times... And just try explaining it all to the IRS.

Then there are the ones who split after years of accumulating joint property, etc, and according to my lawyer friend, the easiest way to sort everything out was for them to GET married, then immediately get divorced.
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