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 Archangel_07
Joined: 6/21/2010
Msg: 46
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HIV is too High of a risk. That's the big one that scares me beyond all the other stds out there.
 NYDistrict14
Joined: 12/3/2011
Msg: 47
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Posted: 12/17/2011 8:43:25 PM
I'd rather live alone than date someone with HIV. Good God.
 _shakti_
Joined: 7/5/2011
Msg: 48
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Posted: 12/17/2011 9:35:58 PM
This is an extremely touchy subject for me. I've seen some scary stuff due to my career. No, I would not and it makes my choice to be celibate all those years make a whole lot of sense.
 Blah_User_Name
Joined: 8/27/2011
Msg: 49
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Posted: 12/19/2011 4:16:59 AM
Personally, no.

I have children and I have a responsibility to them to do all I can to protect myself. There is no way I would be intimate with someone who had a disease which is contagious through certain activities and potentially could claim my health and life.

I would have no problem being their friend - but I would never be their lover.
 MikeWM
Joined: 2/7/2011
Msg: 50
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Posted: 12/19/2011 10:38:25 AM
HIV wouldnt really bother me as theres no actual evidence that it can be transmitted sexually anyway. And theres thousands of case studies where after decades of regular unprotected sex only one half of a couple still fails a HIV test

Something like herpes, gonorhea (SP?) or hepatitis though would be a no no
 HIV_STRAIGHT_GUY
Joined: 12/12/2011
Msg: 51
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Posted: 12/27/2011 5:52:36 PM

Straight guy, your honesty and openness are refreshing


Thanks Soulsmilin But I still think any risk is too much risk.
 OOhMeeOhhMy
Joined: 9/17/2007
Msg: 52
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Posted: 12/27/2011 7:05:33 PM
I have a good friend who is HIV positive and got married to an HIV negative man a few months back.... they have been together for several years... they were good friends first and then it evolved..... he decided that it was more difficult to not love and be with her than to accept the HIV.... they practice safer sex..... and he knows the risks..... but love for him was more....

I don't know if I could do it.... but... I will never say never to anything...
 MWEMBA
Joined: 11/1/2011
Msg: 53
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Posted: 12/27/2011 8:11:53 PM
I would date him if he's a good person
 TaoistGirl
Joined: 5/5/2012
Msg: 55
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Posted: 5/20/2012 2:46:23 AM
All of you people are thoroughly misinformed about what these fraudulent tests even test for. Why don't you look up the test inserts and disclaimers on these tests before you place your life in the hands of a test that is BOGUS. Why dont you look up omsj . org and read about the recent case in Ft Bragg where a man was acquitted of all charges of spreading this so called virus based on the FAKE A** test. Stop believing blindly these people in white coats who think they are Gods and do your research!! "hiv" tests DO NOT TEST FOR "HIV"!!!!!!!!
 RD2112
Joined: 8/7/2010
Msg: 56
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Posted: 5/20/2012 3:01:41 AM
I would never ever fall for someone with a deadly disease like that. It is too risky. Yes you can be careful but not worth it. If I had HIV then I would find a group of carriers and try to build a relation ship there. You cannot love someone if u are willing to expose them to your deadly disease.

This disease would quit spreading if those that knew they had it quit having sex with those that don't. We would only have to worry about those that dont know they have it. I don't even shake hands with people if I'm ill.
 Luvs2lift_50
Joined: 9/17/2011
Msg: 57
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Posted: 5/20/2012 12:22:04 PM
Just get tested immediately. If you're test results are HIV negative, it's a non issue. Just don't make the same mistake of having sex without protection again. And if you are HIV positive, you have an obligation to notify your potential partners of that fact before anything physical ever happens. If not, you could possibly be in for legal issues afterwards.
 maktavian
Joined: 10/18/2012
Msg: 58
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Posted: 10/24/2012 12:12:57 AM
Great Maker! I don't know where to start! 90% of the profiles I look at say that they're Christian. Now ask What would Christ do! The outpouring of understanding and complication is positively sickening. All "kellyo" asked about was dating and marriage.

HIV has been around for more than 30 years and still no one understands it. You can catch it by breathing the same air. You can not catch it be holding or hugging. You can not catch it by having dinner together, watching TV or a movie. You can not catch it by swimming, walking together or talking with one another.AND you cat not get HIV from kissing. People without HIV are more dangerous to people with HIV.

And as far as sex goes, there is sooo much a couple can do with each other that is 100% safe. There plenty of books and free porn sites to give you some ideas

People with HIV have the human need as everyone does, to love and be love, to be needed, to have a friend, to have a life.
 maktavian
Joined: 10/18/2012
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Posted: 12/2/2012 10:29:19 PM
Just an update, most of you people on this thread really suck. I have met someone on another date site. We had several long talks on-line, I told her about my HIV stratus and excepted right away, we have been together for a month now we are make plans and talking of moving in together.

to anyone else out there who is also positive, be true to yourself in you meet the right person you will know wen to tell them, Hope you find someone caring and intelligent, excepting and open minded.....

for everyone hope you find someone you deserve.
 Lhk740
Joined: 3/16/2012
Msg: 61
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Posted: 12/3/2012 10:40:03 AM
Wow ... the amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding. You would think after 30+ years of public exposure, celebrity endorsements, Ryan White and sex ed that people would have learned something.

1) Just because you have HIV / AIDS doesn't mean you deserve it. It doesn't even mean you got it by sleeping around as there are multiple ways to acquire it outside the realm of sex: Sharing needles, blood transfusions, etc.

2) AIDS is far from the death sentence it was a few decades ago. The advancement of antiretroviral medications alone makes it significantly harder to acquire/transmit the HIV virus if you are living with someone who has it. A good friend of mine was living with someone for over 15 years who was HIV+ without ever acquiring it herself. He eventually died but that was due to an accident regarding his hemophilia (which is how he acquired the disease himself). Even if you have HIV/AIDS, as long as you take very simple preventative measures and adhere to your medication regiment, you can live a relatively normal life.

3) All the non-viral STD's (Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, etc) can easily be treated with as little as a single IM shot or, at most, up to a weeks worth of oral antibiotics. STD's can result in serious, permanent damage if left untreated. If you do not have quality insurance and/or money, your local health department will screen AND TREAT you for FREE! Early detection is crucial. If you engage in promiscuous sex, you owe it to yourself to get treated. Testing for most of the common STD's can be done with a simple urine sample (Syphilis and HIV require a blood sample to test). Just google "(Your city) health department" for a phone number/address of where you can go to be tested for free.
 _Meta_Man_
Joined: 7/2/2012
Msg: 62
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Posted: 12/3/2012 3:22:25 PM
There is some post above that states you don't really get tested when you get tested. I have been tested negative by my county health department. Are they reliable results?
 Tommyknockergirl
Joined: 9/13/2012
Msg: 63
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Posted: 12/3/2012 3:41:19 PM
We know your really HIV positive OP!It's selfish on your part to lie or lead someone to think otherwise.


although I might consider it if you put me in your will /insurance policy lol!
 1388SmartBlonde
Joined: 5/15/2011
Msg: 64
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:38:26 AM
OP, first and foremost...get to your local public health department or health clinic and get tested...the sooner you treat an STD the better off you (and your future partners) are.

Secondly, if you did contract HIV/AIDs, Hep B or C, herpes, or other non-curable STD, make sure you ALWAYS use protection and that your sexual partner is informed of your condition BEFORE doing anything where bodily fluids (saliva, blood, mucus, urine, feces) might be exchanged so they can make an informed decision about THEIR health risks. Failure to do so could land you in civil court or in jail for failing to disclose.

I have several gay friends who are either HIV positive and/or are in a relationship with an HIV positive person, so no, your romantic life does not have to end with an incurable STD, but your responsibility to yourself and your partner is GREATLY increased. Now scoot along and go get tested.
 Lhk740
Joined: 3/16/2012
Msg: 65
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Posted: 12/4/2012 6:12:10 AM

There is some post above that states you don't really get tested when you get tested. I have been tested negative by my county health department. Are they reliable results?


HIV testing uses a test called ELISA to detect antibodies of the HIV virus. For most people who become infected it takes 3 months after being exposed for the antibodies to appear although in rare cases it can take upwards of 6 months or so. If the ELISA is positive you do a different test called a Western Blot to rule out a false positive.

Any test has the possibility of being erroneous due to an error of some sort (human error, statistical anomaly, etc) although modern HIV testing, if done properly, is very reliable.
 deerdog1
Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 66
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:17:45 PM

HIV testing uses a test called ELISA to detect antibodies of the HIV virus. For most people who become infected it takes 3 months after being exposed for the antibodies to appear although in rare cases it can take upwards of 6 months or so. If the ELISA is positive you do a different test called a Western Blot to rule out a false positive.

Any test has the possibility of being erroneous due to an error of some sort (human error, statistical anomaly, etc) although modern HIV testing, if done properly, is very reliable.


well then I have a question ...is there a test that will give accurate results early ??? the reason i was asking is I was at a doctors office and the nurse was taking blood .. when she pulled the needle out she accidentally stuck herself ..so they tested me on their dime ...and in just a couple days they called with negative results and were perfectly happy that I didnt have anything ..seems that if it takes 3 months for it to show up ...they would have wanted follow up tests ..the nurse told me that she wasnt very worried but if she had been stuck by a needle after some of the people she has dealt with she would have panicked ..but any time that happens its policy to test for every thing
 Bebedeleau
Joined: 11/27/2012
Msg: 67
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Posted: 12/5/2012 9:20:48 AM
About a year ago, while exploring a new city, I sat and talked with a homeless woman who confided in me she was HIV+. She said she had a friend whose husband was infected and she had never gotten it. "They" wanted to test her to find out why she was "immune" and she declined. How could you ever decline that? I couldn't imagine. Just lock me up in a hospital room with my computer and a TV and poke away for as long as you want. I mean, really.

It is estimated that 1% of the causation population is "immune" to HIV. Here is why:

"All those with the highest level of HIV immunity share a pair of mutated genes -- one in each chromosome -- that prevent their immune cells from developing a "receptor" that lets the AIDS virus break in. If the so-called CCR5 receptor -- which scientists say is akin to a lock -- isn't there, the virus can't break into the cell and take it over.
To be protected, people must inherit the genes from both parents; those who inherit a mutated gene from just one parent will end up with greater resistance against HIV than other people, but they won't be immune. An estimated 10 percent to 15 percent of those descended from Northern Europeans have the lesser protection."

The first case of a man being 'cured' of HIV was through a bone marrow transplant (for the stem cells):

"Scientists said Brown received stem cells from a donor who was immune to HIV. In fact, about one percent of Caucasians are immune to HIV. Some researchers think the immunity gene goes back to the Great Plague: people who survived the plague passed their immunity down and their heirs have it today."

I wish they could just HURRY UP and find the cure / vaccination.
 Bebedeleau
Joined: 11/27/2012
Msg: 68
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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:06:08 AM
Now that they can tentatively say they have a "cure" (it's been 4 years for him), a bigger part of the funding that was used for prevention and treatment will start to slowly be re-routed into working on the 'cure.' The researchers can only research on what is assigned with the money allotted for that specific thing. It's just all so frustratingly slow.

I missed my calling in microbiology and genetics. I could be content for hours and months and years just trying to solve the puzzle. I won't get political on the stem cell issue, but it was hugely exciting when it first started looking promising 20 or so years ago.
 deerdog1
Joined: 12/29/2006
Msg: 69
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:55:39 AM

the way that Brown was cured is sadly too dangerous to try on others :(


this is something I dont understand ..for someone with a terminal disease how can any shot at cure be too dangerous ... If im terminal I would given the choice take any experimental treatment given there was a theory it might cure me ... those people should be at least given that choice



I won't get political on the stem cell issue, but it was hugely exciting when it first started looking promising 20 or so years ago.


the controversy on stem cell research should have died already embryonic stem cells are not near as promising as adult stem cells ..and to harvest adult stem cells nothing has to die ..I myself have no problem with embryonic stem cell research ..I would have a problem ..producing fetus's just for said research ..but research all you want on fetus's which are from miscarriages and which are aborted for other reasons ..JMO
 Bebedeleau
Joined: 11/27/2012
Msg: 70
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Posted: 12/6/2012 6:06:40 AM
:(

"The patient, a U.S. citizen living in Germany, was suffering from advanced leukemia and HIV two years ago when Huetter treated the cancer with a bone-marrow transplant at Berlin's Charité hospital. As a side experiment, he inserted the bone marrow of a donor naturally resistant to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS."

"Is this a viable cure for HIV? Not by a long shot. Even Huetter says bone-marrow transplants, which kill about a third of patients, are so dangerous that "they can't be justified ethically" in anything other than desperate situations like late-stage leukemia."
 blaqwynter
Joined: 11/17/2012
Msg: 71
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:31:20 AM
Hell to the No!

I think I'd rather shatter all the bones in my body from skydiving, instead of living a long painful way to die! Not cool!
 Chipsss
Joined: 5/21/2008
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Posted: 12/7/2012 1:37:56 PM
Telling someone that something serious such as HIV is actually fake is like inviting them to play Russian roulette with 1 bullet in a 2 chamber gun.
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