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 Leigh AKA PL
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She obviously has been used to the label 'depressed' for some time, so how does she feel the label 'Bipolar Disorder' is different/worse?


good question... I asked her this... she say's because with depression there is a good chance of recovering from it... with Bipolar,it is for life.... she has always hoped that one day she would get over the depression,now feels there is no hope


Personally, I find with mental health diagnoses, alot strip the person of their identity, & does victimize them unfortunately.

For example...

"Oh, she's Scizophrenic" ... as apposed to "She's got Scizophrenia".

We don't say "Oh she's cancer" after all, do we?

So, remember to say "because you have Bipolar"...as apposed to "because you are Bipolar" ... makes a world of diffence I feel


couldn't agree more,makes perfect sense
 Leigh AKA PL
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Posted: 11/23/2007 12:08:19 PM
great news.... she is not bi polar... severe depression and severe ptsd.... but can be helped..... so why so sad?

good news yes.... bad news... this has been going on for over 20 years..... is there hope?.....

28 diazepam and 10 prozac..... she should not be alive.... why is she?

VVV.... her past V..... wont let her live a normal life.... so unfair
 stevencl
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Posted: 11/23/2007 5:45:02 PM
Disturbed Angel, agree with you about the fluoxetine (Prozac), there are other drugs in the same group of SSRI's and SNRI's but they can only be prescribed by specialists and not G.P.s. The lady in question really shouldn't use diazepam or any other kind of benzodiazepine (anxiolytic) as a person usually becomes dependant on them after about 10 days, then you need to start increasing the dose to get the same effect. A tri-cyclic anti-depressant can also be used for panic disorders and the benzodiazepines should only be used if the anti-depressant is not working. In this case I think the fluoxetine should be increased as it is the recommended first line treatment for generalised anxiety disorders. If she has not been seen by a specialist, she should ask her G.P. to refer her to one.
 Leigh AKA PL
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Posted: 4/27/2008 7:49:41 AM
you have been doing some fishing FF to drag this out lol lol..

I can now say without shame, my OP was about me... at the time I couldn't handle the truth... but one more thing... it has all changed again lol... it is not Bi polar but BPD... don't know what is worse... but saying that... I refuse to be ashamed of myself now and am open about it... I know with BPD a lot of men will steer clear of me rather than if I had Bi Polar... but I have come to terms with that now... the two disorders are different, but some of the symptons are similar, hence why I was diagnosed wrongly... with the help off the medication I and my family can certainly see a different calmer me...
 Leigh AKA PL
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Posted: 4/27/2008 8:11:12 AM
thankyou phenics

yes the worst part was the LABEL... I was horrified when I learned what BPD was and the more I read up on it on the net the more I got scared....

on the same token... in a way it was such a huge relief... I could (and my family) understand why I was the way I was/am...

It is not that I am brave phenics... I just don't want to be ashamed of who I am and now I have come to terms with the diagnosis I am learning to deal with it and learn to live again knowing what to expect and why I am a bit different to people without it...

sure... any mental health problem will scare some people away... and there is still a stigma with it to some people... but I am sitting here writing this ok with a tear in my eye but also a smile... I know what is wrong with me and I wont let it affect my life anymore... I have been told that I am not ready for the big test yet (talk in great detail of my childhood)... but once I am then am told I will be a different person and I can't wait... yeah that is going to be a long time away yet as I have to be mentally stable to cope with bringing it all back... but I will one day... my past is not going to rule my life anymore... I am getting stronger and truely believe I can do this with the right help...
 Lorri55
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Posted: 4/27/2008 2:22:00 PM
I have suffered from chronic depression for 25 years.....sometimes I need medication, somtimes I manage without it.
I have never let it stop me getting on with my life....yes, there are days where I feel I would rather stay in bed and give in to it but its better to get out there and on with it where possible
 Gut_Reaction
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Posted: 4/28/2008 5:49:22 AM
I can suck two Fox's Glacier Mints at the same time without biting into em.

Have a couple of friends who live with this illness and that surely is the point, living with it. Not letting it dictate your life, easier said than done appreciated.

How many of us live with a undiagnosed mental illness? Especially us chaps who only get to the quacks if our todger has fallen off.
 Leigh AKA PL
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Posted: 4/29/2008 9:20:06 AM

know i'm not normal, never have been, never will... (who wants to be a cycle on a washing machine anyways?).. but I don't like to bother the doctor with the inner workings of my mind, regardless of how low I might feel, so I guess I'll never know for sure!


Tan... you know that is the biggest fear I had... not wanting to bother the doctor... hey...that is what they are there for.... I suffered for two decades not wanting to bother people with my problems... thank the lord eventually I realised that my life deserved to be happier and not suffer anymore... that is when I thought sod it... I will bother them as I want help... I want to be happy and try and live with my past...I deserve happiness just as much as anyone else, 6 years later... no it is not a miracle cure like I hoped... and I will never be 100% happy.... BUT... I am so much happier than I was 6 years ago thanks to all the different help I have recieved and still recieving.... Please,if you feel that you could benifit from medical help then do something about it... there are wonderful people out there who train and love their job and having great satisfaction that they can help people be more confident and happy with themselves.... never put up with the ba stards who feel the need to laugh at mental health troubles.. they have no idea the shyte that goes on in your life and head... they are the lucky ones....

 Leigh AKA PL
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Posted: 4/29/2008 1:52:31 PM

But if he has met the bright sunny funny side of you for a couple of years, then he wont mind the darker side should it surface - best wishes to the lady


tell that to my ex fiance... thought he could cope with me... he was in tears begging me to believe he could.. I finally excepted he was true... then .. poffff... what a suprise.. he couldn't cope with me... not many will be able to so don't hold your breath.... I have given up on that one.
 foreverphoenix
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Posted: 4/29/2008 3:02:25 PM
i think i have bi - polar, i have also researched my family tree on my dads side who i was estranged from, he lived like a tramp in the shed at the bottom of his mums garden. i clearly had no idea he had depression and until i became ill at 29, in 2005, i thought depression was for wimps, who just need to be told to 'get over it'. i am still struggling, i had a CPN and a psychologist but they couldn't help because i was scared of medication (worried about the suicide impact, i was holding on by a thin thread, didn't want tablets to push me over). i have been seeing a psychiatrist for 6 months and i have told some secrets that i have never told before, so i am clearly accepting her and it is helping. i need to get past my childhood, so the quacks can see i am still a lunatic !

in my family tree, on my paternal side, my great grandad hung himself in his 40's, my grandad was murdered at 30 - his mother in law had him shot (2 years before he was sectioned to the nut house). finally, my dad died at 55, after living has a tramp for 30 years, he got stuck in the seventies, he died of pneumonia because his mum and carer died 3 years before so no one was around to look after him. we all became ill in our late twenties but from what i have read i may have had symptoms since i was 10. i am very curious, hopefully as the first woman, i will be able to fight back successfully!
 foreverphoenix
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Posted: 4/29/2008 3:23:13 PM
hi lily, i got 32 in the blackdog test! 22 or above is possibly bi polar.

i always save my clothes, even if they don't fit anymore, my clothes range fro 10's to 20's - now a 16, with a c section tummy but the thing i find funny is the different 'styles'. i have comfy granny cardis alongside sexy dresses etc, all showing the extreme difference between my moods. i also went sexually wild - luckily mainly flirting in 2002 and i kept a diary, now i am in a calmer mood, it is 'funny' what i was getting up to in those few months. in contrast, my 2005 diary is very dark and that is sad to read, to think i got that ill. i write alot, getting up at 3 in the morning, writing letters to whoever is possibly upsetting me at that time, but i never post them. i broke a picture frame last year and found a letter i had written and put in there when i was grieving for my nan, who was my mum figure, it was in there from 2001 to 2007.

accidents is another biggie for me, i keep finding big bruises on my limbs and i never remember what i did. once, i was decorating the bathroom, a spur of the moment decision, i was taking the wall paper of and ripped the side of my thumb on a nail, its just over an inch long, it bled loads but i was decorating in my night wear, so i wrapped my thumb up and got dressed, then i decided it was ok, so went back to do the bathroom.

i also get sacked alot!
 codedout
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Posted: 7/15/2008 1:45:48 PM
I was diagnosed as bipolar at 24. I now lead an amazing life. It will take her about a year to get the right combo of meds. Tell her to be very honest with her Dr. about the ill effects. If she needs anymore re-inforcement she is more than welcome to email or chat personally. The biggest thing she needs to keep thinking is that it will get better and better as time goes on.
 codedout
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Posted: 7/16/2008 2:09:11 PM
IAN, I kinda agree with you here, if you can manage the lows the highs are very powerfull.
 Echo04
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Posted: 6/26/2010 6:52:57 PM
You go Gut. All any bipolar wants is to be treated like themselves and everyone else ! Acceptance of the disorder is a big part of recovery and stabilization. You treating her " as normally as possible" will help that acceptance more than you know. Your doing that makes her feel more human and worthwhile I suspect. Good Luck to you both !
 imanorangetiger
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Posted: 3/13/2013 6:08:59 AM
Interesting thread that's been resurrected here and with some positive and uplifting advice too. To my mind, it's far better to be associated with someone who's been diagnosed and accepting of their condition than someone who denies it. One of the worst conditions to find yourself dealing with is narcisstic personality disorder, because these people are highly destructive and any mention of them having NPD will have them coming down on you like a ton of bricks; of all of the psychological disorders out there, this is the one that sufferers fail to admit to most, because they genuinely believe themselves to be "normal".

As seen above however, biploar disorder, or manic depression, is treatable and many people are actually able to incorporate the illness into their lives and derive something positive out of it, once they recognise it.
 try1more
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Posted: 3/24/2013 5:35:55 PM
hello cinders the best thing i can suggest is get in touch with mind, they usually have a drop in centre, i would imagine you could get some qualified advice from them.
dealing with fantasy is not an easy one, real harm can be done.
ATB
 Tah,
Joined: 11/18/2008
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Posted: 3/25/2013 2:35:59 AM
hello.. i am 22 years old. I have bipolar and have started living a new life with bipolar since age 14


Hello

have you read this?

http://www.madinamerica.com/2012/02/why-anti-authoritarians-are-diagnosed-as-mentally-ill/
 try1more
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Posted: 5/8/2013 8:04:58 PM
furom
bipolar used to be known as manic depressive.
you may have used the term manic to describe the rush n tear perhaps to get a job finished on time.
as far as i'm aware the depression side of it is more common than the manic side, by that i mean someone that suffers from it will be depressed more than manic, it's the manic times that make it different from depression hence it has a different name.
i guess they used bipolar to mean going from one extreme to the other.
 daver987654
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:58:14 AM
I was talking to my Doctor about my circumstances, at the time I happened to be in up mode and feeling almost euphoric. He said that's quite normal for someone going through these cycles. I've never done drugs but it felt like what it must be like to be on them.

I'm going through a period I would describe as the "old me". I'm enjoying life and once again the life and soul. That last bit is a reference to an old friend who not having seen me for a couple of years asked me where the old Dave, the life and soul, had gone to. At the time I didn't know what he was talking about.

Just had a text and subsequent conversation with a friend who seems to be in an opposite mode to me. He's suddenly down and can't get a grip on it. Strangely, despite having just been through the cycle myself I find it difficult to understand him.

He has everything in my opinion, he's fit, attractive, enough money for the rest of his life (under 50 by a few years), owns properties. What's his problem?

But problem he has. We've had a chat and are starting on an agreed plan to wind him back.
 GeordieColin
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Posted: 5/21/2013 9:59:30 AM
Mental health problems should not be treated like an illness, insist leading psychologists.
Treating mental health problems such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in the same way as illnesses is unhelpful, leading psychologists claim.
Even labelling the conditions is counterproductive they say, adding there is no evidence that a ‘breakdown’ or ‘severe emotional distress’ is the same as an illness with genetic or biological causes.
Instead, they feel the focus needs to be shifted towards dealing with the cause of the mental distress, in order to offer individuals ‘the right kind of help to recover’.Dr Lucy Johnstone, a consultant clinical psychologist who helped draw up the statement, argues there is no scientific basis for treating ‘emotional distress’ as a physical sickness.
 cesska
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Posted: 5/21/2013 9:54:17 PM
my sister doesn't feel alive unless she is mad about something.
we confront her on her lies.
she thinks life is a movie and she has the staring role.
she has ruined everybody's life.
 jwm1970
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Posted: 6/10/2013 10:38:49 PM
I have bipolar disorder and when I was "labeled" it was devistating. I have been on medication for a few years. I no longer have bad mood swings and function like anyone else. I must say the things that make us great people still remain. I am passionate, romantic, loyal, honest and work hard. I enjoy my life and have it pretty good all things considered. I have a profile on here also which made me hesitant to respond. The hard part is the stigma, you mention mental illness the first thing people think about are mass shootings, violence etc. Here are the real facts, 5% of crime is done by people with mental illness so guess who does the other 95%. That's right be afraid of "normal people" LOL!
I will tell you when I was not diagnosed you would not have wanted to be in a relationship with me. I would want you one minute then mania would set in and the instant gradification and elated ego would set in along with iritability. Then the higher you go the harder you fall. However birds of a feather flock together so guess who I was attracted to and them me, that's right people with the same condition.
If you both have it and one gets treatment and the other doesn't it can kill a relationship quick. You become calm and can't stand the insanity you once thrived on.
In a nut shell if someone is in recovery from bipolar they may be the best mate for you. If there not they won't tell you and you'll have to figure it out the hard way.
I am now a Certified Peer Specialist and help other people recover from mental illness. That makes my life worth living. Any questions about things to help someone with recovery just let me know.
 jwm1970
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Posted: 6/10/2013 10:56:24 PM
Some of us without medications would be hopeless. Doctors do think medication cures everything which is wrong. In fact they have a tendency to over medicate those that need some. Every time I wasn't happy or too happy my psychiatrist wanted to up my meds which I wouldn't allow. Balanced meds can give people like me with bipolar or people with schyzophrania a happy fulfilling life that we couldn't achieve without.
 imanorangetiger
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Posted: 6/16/2013 6:34:17 AM

No coincidence those in poverty have the most mental illness


What utter rot. Mental illness has no social boundaries.
 try1more
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Posted: 6/16/2013 7:17:37 PM
it's a shame you dont understand what you're so quick to quote doc.
malnutrition is well known to cause physical and mental problems.
and malnutrition is most likely to occur in poverty.
but it's not exclusive to poverty, suffering malnutrition does not mean underfed, there are many overweight people suffering from malnutrition.

mixing a bit of truth into any report can give it a genuine appearance.
but it's the truths left out that are usually more important than the ones included.
genetic mutations are also not exclusive to the poor.

did you know sickle cell anemia is almost exclusive to those with brown eyes?
boy am i glad i dont have brown eyes :-)

what do you mean facetious? :-)
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