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Can you be to wet?Page 8 of 11    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11)
Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality, Volume 4, August 25, 2001
Urethral Expulsions During Sensual Arousal and Bladder Catheterization in Seven Human Females

Chapter 3



For the last 50 years modern science has generally accepted first Kinsey’s and then Masters and Johnson’s premise that the clitoris alone was responsible for triggering female orgasm with the pudendal nerve as the sensory pathway. They saw the creation of an “orgasmic platform” which underwent myatonic build-up which was then released during orgasm.43 However, in 1981, Perry and Whipple presented a theory of a second form of orgasm. This “uterine” orgasm “includes the Gräfenberg spot (presumed to be the female prostate) as its major source of stimulation, the pelvic nerve as its major pathway and the musculature of the uterus (in females), the bladder, the urethra, the prostate gland and the proximal portion of the pubococcygeus muscle as its major myatonic manifestation.”44

Singer and Singer go on to describe a blended orgasm which “combines elements of the previous two kinds. is characterized by contractions of the orgasmic platform, but the orgasm is subjectively regarded as deeper than a vulval orgasm.”45

What all of this highlights is how subjective and personal a woman’s experience of orgasm is, and how much there is yet to know about the intricacies of female orgasm, including the emotional and intellectual components. This point was made repeatedly in the comments in the questionnaires of the female subjects (see Appendix A).

In The G Spot and Other Recent Discoveries About Human Sexuality, the authors saw women’s experience of orgasm as not one way or another, correct or incorrect, but as a continuum of experience. They argue that there can be a blending of different types of orgasmic experience unique to the individual.46 One woman who is a participant in the current study has categorized and kept notes on 126 different types of orgasm to date and she is constantly finding new and more subtle variations.


Urinary stress incontinence is considered to be a dysfunction of the bladder outlet that leads to the involuntary leakage of urine as intra-abdominal pressure is raised above urethral resistance during such activities as bearing down, coughing, sneezing, bending, or lifting heavy objects. The volume of urine leakage is generally modest at each occurrence and, in uncomplicated cases, post void residual volume is low. Urinary stress incontinence is usually a result of weakness of the muscles of the pelvic floor and/or a weakening of bladder neck supports.47

Urinary stress incontinence during sexual arousal is a poorly understood problem. There have been relatively few studies involving urinary stress incontinence and sexuality. In those there were disagreements whether the diagnosis was, in fact, urinary stress incontinence or related bladder control issues, such as detrusor instability.48

One thing that this researcher has rediscovered during this research project is the reality that much of the world views controversies such as this in an either/or framework. In this instance, one view adopted by the medical science has been that all urethral expulsions during sensual and/or sexual activity were a result of urinary stress incontinence. Another viewpoint, held by women who expel fluid during sensual/sexual arousal and their partners, was that this is a natural expulsion of fluid that does not appear to be urine and might involve a process similar to prostatic ejaculation in males. In reality, both may be the case. A 1985 study done by the New York City Beth Israel Medical Center Department of Urology concluded that, “female ejaculation may have other explanations. These include: (1) an episode of stress incontinence, (2) secretion leakage of variable amounts of fluid from Skene’s glands caused by sexual arousal or orgasm, and (3) mixed expulsion of urine and Skenean secretion.”49

Previous research has clearly shown that the lack of strength of a woman’s pelvic muscles has a correlation to incidents of urinary stress incontinence. Tested on a Perineometer, women diagnosed with urinary stress incontinence usually test in the range of from 0 to 10 mm/Hg.50

Research by Perry and Whipple has shown that female ejaculators “have significantly stronger pubococcygeal muscle contractions and significantly stronger uterine contractions than non-ejaculators.”51 In that study, utilizing the Electronic Perineometer, non-ejaculators had an average reading of 6.71 microvolts, while the ejaculators averaged 11.84 microvolts.52


The problem with conducting this experiment previously has been the unavailability of test subjects who could generate the questioned fluid in a clinical environment. This researcher's access to highly trained women who were capable of achieving the desired result under scrutiny created the opportunity for this unique experiment. All these women are very comfortable with their bodies as well as their sexuality. They also teach other women body awareness along with how to experience more sexual and sensual pleasure including G {Goddess (their terminology)} spot stimulation. They were not chosen to be statistically representative of all women but instead were chosen because, if a urethral expulsion during sensual arousal was possible, these women were the most likely to be able to produce it in a scientific environment.

The age range of the seven female subjects is 41 to 71 with the average age being 49.14 and a median age of 45. They reported having expelled fluid during sensual/sexual activity for an average of seven and two thirds years.

Most of the women subjects reported a preference in type of stimulation to orgasm, multiple orgasm and/or expulsion of fluid. In order, the preferences were: digital, then oral and, finally a combination of those two choices. In terms of penile contact, the majority reported that it only “sometimes” contributes to stimulation to orgasm, multiple orgasm and/or expulsion of fluid.

Five of the seven women subjects reported doing exercises to develop their vaginal muscles and all of those reported increased sexual responsiveness as a result. All reported contracting and/or pushing out with their vaginal muscles during sensual/sexual arousal and/or orgasm. All but one reported pushing out. The effects of this type of training are evident in the videotape record of the experiment.

Results of a pre arousal perineometer test on the current study subjects demonstrated that their average pelvic muscle strength was 26.67 mm/Hg. This was not only significantly higher than the reported average of women in general53 but particularly contrasted with women diagnosed with urinary stress incontinence.54

The experiences of the female subjects in this study provided interesting insights into ways that their body awareness has expanded their personal experience of their sexuality. Following the kind of suggestions made in The G Spot for women to exercise their pubococcygeal muscles, learn breathing techniques and push out rather than contract their muscles at orgasm, the subjects in this study reported that the intensity and duration of their orgasms have increased (see Appendix A).

43. Whipple and Komisaruk, 1991, pg. 230
44. Perry and Whipple, 1981, pg.32
45. Singer and Singer, in Handbook of Sex Therapy, pg. 179
46. Ladas, et al, The G Spot and Other Recent Discoveries About Human Sexuality, pg. 152.
47. Tanagho and McAninch, Smith's General Urology, pg. 538
48. Khan, pg. 281
49. Khan, pg. 281.
50. Kegel, 1956, pg. 497
51. Perry and Whipple, 1981, pg. 23
52. Ibid., pg. 23
53. Levitt, et al, pg. 429
54. Kegel, 1956, pg. 497


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Joined: 2/18/2008
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Posted: 2/22/2008 1:26:20 AM
That being said I don't mind wetness. I just mind the golden showers all over my face. lol
Joined: 2/6/2008
Msg: 128
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Posted: 2/22/2008 5:32:40 PM

You werent too wet, he was too small. I was told that once too, but he didnt realize that it wasnt me, it was his tiny penis. I could not hardly feel anything, if he was bigger he would have loved it, as would i have. Thats crazy when a man tells a woman she is too wet.

That may sometimes be the case, but not necessarily. According to what I have read, I am above average in penis size, and my girlfriend has a pretty tight one. But it seems that depending on the stage in her cycle, the amount of moisture does vary a good bit. She is never too dry, but sometimes gets pretty sloppy wet. When that happens, things just don't seem as tight, and it doesn't feel quite as good. Still good, just not as good. And makes continuous stroking for 30 to 40 minutes more difficult.

Some things we have tried...keep a towel handy, pull out for a quick dry off, only takes a few seconds. Get her on top, so it is running out instead of staying in. Or get down there and lap it up for a few minutes. When it gets really wet, that stuff does taste good.

And girls... keep doing those kegal excercises....tightness overcomes a lot of wetness.
Joined: 11/20/2007
Msg: 133
Can you be to wet?
Posted: 2/23/2008 9:16:46 AM
Ah, but "cleaning the field" with my mouth would probably not get the job done, would it? If what you say about giving you head is right, giving you head to 'clean the field' might 'moisten' up the field a bit more, eh?
Joined: 2/14/2008
Msg: 144
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Posted: 2/26/2008 3:04:17 PM
onetime i was getting ready to lick some **** and i swear i have never seen anybody that wet before, her whole **** was plastered with cum as if she gushed after giving me a blowjob, as i went down the wetness hit me in the its if her clit was buried beneath a sheet of ice, well cum in this case....her sucking me must of really set her off. once i got through there and licked her, she came again of course. nothing like a sexy ass woman with a wet **** just for you. GOD I LOVE WOMEN!
Joined: 12/30/2007
Msg: 146
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Posted: 2/29/2008 5:51:15 PM
men need respect, and women need love
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 151
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Posted: 3/5/2008 11:00:18 AM
personaly i do think u can be too wet, i consider my average in size, but ive had two chicks tell me that i was big, so i wouldnt say im small if i told my gf she was too wet.
i think most ppl try to turn it around on a guy because they couldnt except the fact that it might be their fault. i had a cambodian gf once, who i hated going down on because she use to make me gag when i wen down on her, i couldnt even just pleasure the clitoris withought a huge mess. being wet is perfect everyone needs lube, but not when everytime u have sex in a tub.
Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 155
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Posted: 3/6/2008 4:11:34 PM
i'd be offended by that statement myself.
Joined: 7/29/2006
Msg: 159
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Posted: 3/16/2008 12:22:38 AM
gosh ppl i hate i was unclear when i said i'd be offended by that statement i was referring to the statement the guy made! the dude who said she got too wet. i'd be offended if any guy said i got too wet!
is that clear now?
not that wetness offends me! the idea of a guy thinking a wet ___ is gross is offensive. he must have issues. idk.
now i am babbling again cause someone had to misinterpret what i was saying so i hope you are happy!!!!!!!!
Joined: 3/4/2008
Msg: 161
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Posted: 3/16/2008 3:00:55 AM
i like a woman to be wet but not too wet because it would harder for me to keep an erection, i need to feel friction. i have a nice thick****so size doesn't matter in my case.
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 169
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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:27:07 PM
Mitzi there is no such thing as TOO wet!! The wetter the better It's just more for me to lick up!!!
Joined: 3/2/2007
Msg: 170
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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:35:49 PM
Slippery when WET Mmmm But not too Wet for some by the sounds of things

Just my 50p worth

Joined: 3/7/2007
Msg: 172
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Posted: 6/24/2008 5:01:55 PM

Wet means she likes you.

In most cases that is true, and it is a good way to judge,, however, there are some woman that are not able to maintain wetness for what ever reason,, I have no clue why,, but to say she doesn't like you because a woman can't get wet is wrong,, or that she isn't turned on,, there are many other way of telling,, one of the biggest ways is,, she is in bed with you,, as for the rest,, it depends on the woman.. you can use saliva,, but that wears off quickly,, so the oils comes into play,, and even then,, that has to be maintained,, just to keep both parties from getting sore,,
Joined: 3/2/2008
Msg: 174
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Posted: 6/30/2008 9:58:05 AM
I think you can be too wet. I have been with women that they are soooo wet that there is no feeling to me at all. My wife does something that a few women I guess do is tighten their stomach muscles during sex to get the tightness inside to where it feels great during what I call sloppy sex.
Joined: 3/7/2007
Msg: 176
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Posted: 6/30/2008 1:08:55 PM

I think its all about perception, Yes it could be possible to be to wet, much like its possible for a guy to be to hard.

A woman can never be to wet in my opinion,, if she is,, I would go down and clean it all up,, opps that might make her wetter,,

I'm confused,,, as a guy,, how can we/I be to hard,, are you suggesting woman like semi, hard,, that might be the case if she likes to play that way,, and that cool,, and there are ways to make that happen as well,,, there are lots to do,,
but during intercourse,, I have never know a woman,, who has said,, gezzz,, I wish you were not so hard,, to the contrary,, some say,, wow I feel you getting harder and bigger just before orgasm..and I just love it.......
Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 196
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Posted: 12/5/2008 7:25:37 AM
I don't know guys... been with a girl that got so sloshy it was like screwing a glass of water. It didn't seem that great to me but hey, to each their own.
Joined: 9/19/2008
Msg: 203
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Posted: 12/5/2008 4:25:20 PM
yes you can be too wet and i don't really like it... i don't want her to be dry or anything but i also dislike hearing sounds that sound like a guy punching a tub of water....

besides that, with TOO much wetness, you lose all sensation...
Joined: 9/4/2007
Msg: 211
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Posted: 12/11/2008 8:40:54 AM
I would say it is not problem. Have been with really wet and with very dry, my preference would be wetter the better. So don't worry, like you said it was his inexperence that was the issue, not you.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 7:09:21 PM
Too wet, not possible.
Joined: 1/4/2008
Msg: 221
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Posted: 12/23/2009 2:59:55 AM
wetter is better , i like it very wet great taste
Joined: 1/4/2008
Msg: 222
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Posted: 12/23/2009 3:03:07 AM
well i want complain at all wet is so fine
Joined: 7/13/2009
Msg: 225
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Posted: 12/23/2009 6:48:31 AM
I can say for a fact that there is such thing as too wet. My ex had that problem. As soon as we start with the forplay she had a 6 inch strand of drool hanging from her vagina like it's a salivating St. Bernard. Then when we had sex, the juices would literally cover my entire crotch area and thighs. Maybe all that would be okay were it not for the fact that it cools down quickly and it feels like you have cold liquid all over you, which is sort of the opposite feeling you'd want or expect to have during sex.

I want just enough wetness for lubrication, nothing extra.
Joined: 10/31/2009
Msg: 227
wet girl
Posted: 1/21/2010 4:10:33 AM
**** you cant even spell realize
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