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Joined: 11/27/2007
Msg: 25
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The person with the dream is often susceptible to having that dream killed. They are often unsure of it or it is something nobody else has done before or it involves some kind of a risk of something. The dreamer is seeking a sounding board and validation. Often it doesn't take much of a "what are you, nuts?" from the dream killer to derail the dream. They can often do it for some odd reasons.

It could be from a basic pattern of self-destructive behaviors where they will naturally kill anything that promises to improve their situation and I can guess why women might kill dreams (both kill the spouses dreams and sabotage their own) more often than men for that reason. In a case where a man is a dream killer for a woman, it might have to do with social programming and what he was taught about gender roles in a relationship or social pressure from his peers. He might feel his friends or members of his family (Dad?) would make fun of him or think less of him if his wife had the more successful career but that is diminishing now in American society. There are other reasons too such as the original one mentioned ... fear of the dreamer being more attractive and finding another mate. Maybe the dream killer is afraid it will push them into new social circles that they don't feel comfortable in or "worthy of" and they want to remain at their current station in life.

A lot of people are afraid of risk and afraid of change. Following a dream often involves a good measure of both. And I, too, have helped someone realize a dream only to be left behind once they get themselves in a better situation but I had accepted that possibility beforehand.
Joined: 11/27/2007
Msg: 30
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Posted: 1/1/2008 1:01:23 PM
Back many years ago when the public being allowed on the Internet was a new idea, I was living in a rural area that had no ISP within local calling range. I spoke to a national carrier and arranged to get a T1 circuit, the first internet circuit that "big" ever brought into the county. I learned FreeBSD and then Linux. After all was said and done, I looked at what money I had and figured I needed just $10,000 more to make my ISP a reality.

Both the people I went to for investment told me "the Internet is just a fad, never going to amount to anything, remember CB radios?" (well, only one mentioned CB radios). I was heartbroken. I told someone else exactly what I had planned to do and I moved to Silicon Valley to pan some gold out of what I figured was going to be a tech boom once the Internet caught on (and was). The someone else I told of my plan back home was able to get the financing and set up an ISP and even added a phone company business too. Just looking at their website and the company is still in business (they even took the name I was going to use but not before I registered the .com domain ... they got the .net domain of that name).

In this case my dream killers were my mom who had some significant funds, and a local man of means who was always on the lookout for a good investment. It happens.
Joined: 12/2/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 1/1/2008 4:37:59 PM
ps, it's spelled Leykis...
Joined: 5/13/2006
Msg: 39
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Posted: 1/1/2008 5:25:02 PM

Envy is a vile emotion, a cold and relentless one, and it absolutely infiltrates relationships, not just business or acquaintanceship contacts.

Rory makes a succinct summation.

One of the core qualities IMO of a successful relationship is the support and nurturing of the two people in it. Whether it's business, friends, family or romantic, either person's successes and achievements are the other person's joy and celebration.

Hold someone back would be the furthest thing from my mind. I had the benefit of being raised by caring, nurturing parents who loved us all, cared for us, encourage, coached, advised and accepted what the children chose even if it wasn't what they had wanted. My parents were my cheerleaders, and I've found that to be an invaluable heritage, I celebrate, encourage, advise my children as well and support them even when they make their own choices that may not be what Mom would have preferred.

I am proud when my friends, family and business associates achieve, realize their goals, have attained success. And I'm honored that they choose to share it with me. I won't take any credit, although they're always lavish with it, as I did nothing but help them to believe in themselves. I can't help but do that, it's so entrenched in my nature. (Thanks, again, Mom and Dad!!)

I don't find it a burden when someone's going through a rough time or feeling discouraged and turn to me. I may not always have the words or some lovely slice of the sagest wisdom, I turn the mirror back on them and let them know that I have ultimate faith in them, their spirit and their abilities. IMO, that's what people really need and all that someone else can offer. And to date it's never failed, when the cloud passes and the sun shines again, I know I'll get that email/phone call or a child bursting through the door proud to announce they did it. That's the type of joy there are no words for.

I choose to surround myself as best as I can with people like that. It's an energizing, supporting and caring environment. Someone needs something, at the word it's there. I've given it and needed it myself and I only have to let it be known and it's there.

Hold someone back, I'd more likely be the one with the boot in their a good way. If someone has a goal or a dream, I'd be there, if it's something I can help with or get info. I wouldn't let them sit on their can or just blabber about it, I'd be saying go do it. Make it happen, figure out a way or find someone who can guide you to figure it out.

Sometimes, a soft, gentle "push" is all they need to put the wheels in motion.
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