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 RoyalLady
Joined: 8/19/2007
Msg: 229
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To Eastsideeddie ..... ... I love your comments!!

To those that think there should be a law against stupidity, then remember that if and when you get conned in one way or another.. consider yourself stupid instead of a "victim/pigeon".
anyone can fall victim to a good con, whether for money or sex or some other thing. Remember the recent cons of people losing their houses from identity theft etc?
Who does the law protect? the conartist or their targets/victims?
Who are the ones you lable "stupid"? the young and naive and the elderly. Are some people that insensitive to other people?
When has sex become so meaningless? To some people sex is to be shared with the one who shares your heart, not one that cons you into giving it away on false hopes.

And this business of good sex/bad sex.. remember fellas, when you point a finger at someone, there are 10 more pointing back at you! Some folks just can't measure up...


As for pulling up one's bootstraps and dusting themselves off to lesson's learned, yes, they should become wiser. It's a life lesson. That's for the young. ... could be your daughter that got the shaft.
I raised my son well, and he had the girls chasing after him... he was a good catch and alot of the girls were riffraff... so I certainly defend young men and all men that get conned by unscrupulous women.
How dare they?? Put them all in the stocks!!

FYI/ on the lighter side:
Regarding stupidity and laws against it.. It's called Darwin's Law of Natural Extinction!!! they give out awards for that!!

This was definitely consensual and deserving of the award:
(20 June 2007, South Carolina) A 21 year-old couple was found naked in the road an hour before sunrise by a passing cabbie. The unconscious, injured pair was taken to the nearest hospital, where they died without regaining consciousness. Authorities were at a loss to explain what had happened. There were no witnesses, no trace of clothing, and no wrecked cars or motorcycles.

Investigators eventually found a clue high on the roof of a nearby building: two sets of neatly folded clothes, and nothing else. There was no indication of foul play, only of foreplay. "It appears as if [they] accidentally fell off the roof," Sgt. Florence McCants said.

Safe sex takes on a whole new meaning when you are perched on the edge of a pyramid-shaped metal roof.

This is a true Darwin Award trifecta: TWO people die, WHILE in the act of procreation, due to an ASTONISHINGLY poor decision. Bottom line: If you put yourself in a precarious "position" at the edge of a pointy roof, you may well find yourself coming and going at the same time.

Ironically, one of the deceased was named, "Tumbleston."
(Some reports list the name as "Tubleston.")
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Betrayal of Trussed
1999 Personal Account
(30 April 1999) NOTE: Since the potential Awardee survived the incident fully intact except probably for his marriage and his career, this incident is only an Honorable Mention.
One night, firefighters rescued a German billionaire businessman from a swiftly moving blaze threatening his suite at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in the German city of Cologne. Big deal, you might say. That's what firefighters are for - to save people from fires. It's just that in this case, they also saved the businessman from a kinky S&M situation straight out of the Marquis de Sade.

The sizzling saga began shortly after midnight, when the tycoon hired a 28-year old dominatrix named "Ramona" to bind, gag, whip, and otherwise humiliate him in his $400-per-night suite. (Golden showers, anyone?) Ramona was really no different from anyone else plying her trade - she was outfitted in fishnet stockings, chain-mesh bra, six-inch spike heels. And she was packing the usual equipment, too - cat-o-nine-tail whips and other nasty sex toys. It would all have been just another session of normal S&M sex, but then a fire broke out in the adjoining suite.

The fire broke out in the $1700-per-night suite occupied by billionaire computer mogul Charles Wang of Wang Computers. While Wang was taking a bath in his sauna, the fire broke out. Unaware of his neighbor's in-progress sex session, Wang tore into the hallway and began warning the other hotel guests to flee. Ramona heard Wang's warning about the fire, and heeded it. She dropped her whip and left her client tied to the bed and unable to call for help. (She wasn't a "stand-up girl" for either normal OR abnormal sex!)

When hotel workers and firefighters began a room-to-room search for endangered guests, they entered Ramona's suite and stumbled across the bizarre scene that looked like something out of a triple-XXX porn flick. Firefighters then stopped laughing long enough to fetch some cutting equipment to free the red-faced, beat-red tycoon, while still battling the flames. Evidently the tycoon's clothing was destroyed and the hotel workers couldn't be stopped from blabbing, either, because, "He was very crimson. People cheered him in the lobby as he ran out with just a sheet wrapped around himself, which certainly added to his embarrassment," a fire department spokesman said. Authorities refused to identify the wealthy executive, other than to say that he was a "senior business executive" with a wife and two children. (Not much longer!) They added that the kinky caper could easily have cost him his life.

The unnamed executive was one of 244 high-powered guests at the Hyatt for an invitation-only business summit, which was also attended by such bigwigs as Ford Motor Vice President Nick Scheele. The $1700-per-night suite where the fire broke out had also been designated to be President Clinton's suite as he attended the E-8 Economic Summit two months later.

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(3 March 2002, England) As Kim and Paul left the Sheffield pub, they noticed that a streetlight was burned out, creating a pool of darkness on the road. Unable to rein in their passion, they began to canoodle -- consummate their relationship -- on the asphalt outside the pub. Witnesses said the couple was lying right on the white line, kissing and cuddling.

The passionate pair were warned of the danger of their coital position not once, not twice, but three times -- by a car driver, a bus driver, and a pedestrian. An off-duty paramedic honked and shouted, "You want to get up, otherwise you'll be run over." The man simply said "Cheers, mate," and the paramedic heard a female laughing. A bus driver swerved to avoid them, and drove past with wheels on the curb. A concerned pedestrian shouted to warn them that another bus was headed their way.

Despite these disruptions, Kim and Paul continued, oblivious to the approach of a small, single-decker Nipper bus. The bus driver mistook the undulating shape for a bag of rubbish in the poorly lit street, and was unable to stop in time. There was a dull thud...

Kim and Paul were struck and killed at midnight. Paramedics found Kim lying on her back with her jumper pulled up, and Paul between her legs with his trousers pulled down.

The only downside to this timely removal of lunacy from the gene pool is the fate of the bus driver. Despite the couple's irregular actions, and a police investigator's statement that "to expect a driver to anticipate a pedestrian lying in the road is out of the ordinary," a judge fined him for careless driving, and his license was revoked for six months. Fortunately, his employers consider him an excellent employee, and plan to give him other duties for six months. Relatives of the victims said they were glad the driver had kept his job.

This tale surely answers the Beatles' question, "Why don't we do it in the road?"

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there's more, much more at Darwinawards.com .

Let there be light, and God bless!
 Angel449
Joined: 7/5/2006
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Posted: 1/4/2008 7:29:09 PM
Well you do give BLONDES a bad name GET OVER IT no gets TRICKED into anything the signs are all they it would be the BROKEN SOUL that wasn't looking for the sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 FescheLola
Joined: 10/15/2007
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:00:32 PM
Roaylady.... The 15th century was a lot different than the 21st for fks sakes!!!! So your poem is bollocks.

Back then women WERE kept dumbed down and "chastity" and virtue were indeed valuable...

Here a more appropriate quote for you....

It is better to keep ones mouth shut and appear STUPID than to open it and remove all doubt.

Mark Twain
 Adam 4 Coffee
Joined: 5/31/2007
Msg: 237
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:16:05 PM
1. How do you trick someone into havign sex? It sounds more like your freinds date low lifes who like to lie or maybe they thought they wanted more and found out your friends are nuts and wante dout of the relationship. Maybe your freinds are sluts and sleep with anyone they meet. If the sex is consensual its not a crime. Rape is when sex is forced or the person in incompacitated and does not have the ability to say no. There is a clear definiation there. what you are looking for is to crimminalize the act of sex for pleasure and to punish men. It sounds like you may be a feminazi. Waht the hell is inner dignity. Tell your friends not to date creeps or to have sex with people that cant; be trusted.

I enjoy sex and usually end up having it early in the relationship. But if I don't like or trust the girl then it is not going to happen. There are people who will tell lies. Hell I a man have been used too. A lesbian used me for sex to take her virginity. she never told me she was a lesbian. She brekaps upw ith me 2 days after the sex and I find her a month later int eh women's center at my college french kissing another girl.

You seek to punish men for what crime lying? unless they are spreading rumors or lying in court there is no crime. It is not a crime to hurt other people's feelings in fact some people will get offended for any number of reasons. Tell your freinds to date guys who come form good families and share the same values as your friends. That's my advice.
 Ignoble
Joined: 10/11/2007
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Posted: 1/4/2008 8:25:14 PM
I think there should be a law against people who think its POSSIBLE to be tricked into sex.
 Love_on_Fire
Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 1/4/2008 10:41:45 PM
I'm sorry to say this Op, but..No, I don't think there should be laws for these types of incidences for obvious reasons.
 Chrysostom
Joined: 6/4/2005
Msg: 262
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:02:08 AM

For anybody concerned....do you think there should be laws against game players that trick you into sexual encounters and dress things up in deceit

Yes! I think that once they're caught, they should be forced into a 3 month hiatus to let those of us, who're less able, have a chance at successful seduction. Those master Pick-up artists are really raising the requirements to impossible levels for newcomers!!!
 asianace10
Joined: 2/23/2007
Msg: 264
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:28:46 AM
Make them wait for sex, if they are genuine they will wait, if you are a class act of a woman, a man will gladly wait, if he does not want to wait, let him go....any woman that jumps into bed early in the relationship is foolish and I don't believe our legislative bodies are going to make laws against foolish behavior........
 Jester1977
Joined: 4/6/2007
Msg: 265
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:31:04 AM
I'm sure its been said, but this would be impossible legislation to enact.

Aside from which our courts are back logged enough as is without making them pay for even more of people's stupidity
 Chilly62
Joined: 8/27/2007
Msg: 266
 ogolly55
Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 267
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:36:33 AM
No, We have too many stupid laws now, grow up, How do you get tricked into bed?
 ~blue eyes~
Joined: 11/16/2006
Msg: 271
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Posted: 1/5/2008 9:05:32 AM
"he even went has far to manipulate her verbally into sexual intercourse with him by telling her she was acting silly and child like after she told this man 3 TIMES verbally she didnt feel ready for sex with him...but he patronised her verbally by making her feel childish and silly if she didnt!..."

Ok, yes the guy is an ass, but she still made the choice to do it. Why did she not leave or tell him to leave? She still said yes after all of that, so thats on her. She knew she didn't want to but did it anyway and felt like crap later, and that sucks and I feel bad for her, but she did say yes.
 Chiwrtr72
Joined: 6/15/2006
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Posted: 1/5/2008 9:44:07 AM
After this law is passed...

What's next? Against positions where one partner slips and injures oneself (can't wait to subpoena my college ex for her rickety kitchen table!). How about neighbors who are loud (disturbing the peace!)? A law against "dutch ovens"?
 Bewildered100
Joined: 11/27/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:20:18 AM
OP, you certainly are passionate about this topic for it being only "your friend" whom it happened to. Anyone who doesn't see your point is apparently your enemy.

The simple truth is...what you propose is nothing more than using "rape" as an excuse when you decide you made a mistake. You feel so humiliated by having let YOURSELF see only what you wanted to see, that "SOMEONE HAS TO PAY!"

No one ever said life was fair, I've got enough battle scars to prove it, but somewhere along the way a person just has to learn from past mistakes, or be doomed to repeat them.
 Passinthru
Joined: 2/3/2005
Msg: 289
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Posted: 1/5/2008 10:58:00 AM
'fuchsia,

Many of us have regrets over shortsighted decisions we have made while seeking love eternal... It's a shame that many feed on the desires of others whose intentions are more noble. Unfortunately this is the way of life and no law or penalty will change the predator into the nurturer. Just keep in mind we are responsible for our own happiness and how we allow others to treat us and should never become so attached to a potential outcome that we can't walk away. With that being said, we have to learn from our slips and from those of others, listen to those little voices crying out from within- since they are often right and deal with who or what life throws our way.

From birth our bodies develop immunities from periodic exposure to disease. Sometimes it actually has to temporarilly succumb to the effects in order to build the strength to avert the illness at the next encounter. You, or your friend as the case may be have now been exposed. Once you have fully recovered you will be stronger and can more readily deal with the next disease which tries to "promise" his way into your bed.

We are our own best defense.

Good luck to you darlin'
 ladyc4
Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 292
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Posted: 1/5/2008 11:33:42 AM
Wow.13 pages in one day. I'm not wading thru all of that. No disrespect intended to previous posters.
How are you going to pass laws against people who use false claims of "love" to gain something they want? Look how many men have been "tricked" into situations where women used sex as a lure to improve her socioeconomic standard? I'm not saying THAT'S right, either.

These days, when we so often date and get romantically involved with people that will not suffer some sort of social repercussions for dating under false pretense( like having the gal's dad and/or brothers horsewhip the offender for "toying with her affections") being "dumped postconquest" is just an inherent risk. How to avoid it? Choose singlehood, or hold out for marriage( good luck with THAT)
Sorry you got burnt OP, but it goes with the territory. Next time don't get too attached to the guy until AFTER sex becomes a part of the relationship.
Personally I don't GET why a guy will bust his ass to impress a gal, convince her of real love and honorable intentions, JUST to get into her pants. Wouldn't it be a hell of a lot easier and simpler,to go find a dive bar Dumbelina? But I'm told it's the "chase " thing, and I sometimes wonder if some of the guys who do this aren't simply avenging a perceived wrong done him by another woman.
I seriously doubt that there's any way to legislate against that sort of thing though.
Cindy O
 Babe0304
Joined: 7/28/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 1:36:41 PM
I understand totally the point your trying to get across but it does sound absurd about laws against people who trick people into sexual encounters. Unfortunately, there are millions of unscrupulous, lying, cheating dogs out there who will tell you anything to get down your pants... including I Love You's, your the only one for me, I want to marry you... etc, etc. but we as women need to be smart and see through all the bullshit lies and deceit. Remember Actions speak louder than Words.... unfortunately all bets are off in the games of the heart and sometimes we think with something else... rather than our heads when we fall for someone. Speaking from experience, I've been there and done that. Fell for someone who was nothing more than a con artsist with alot of words that meant absolutely nothing! But each experience teaches us a new lesson... next time I'll be smarter!!!! Good Luck to all and Happy Fishing!
 Ravenstar66
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Posted: 1/5/2008 1:56:36 PM
Maybe she really sucked (was bad I mean) in bed? Maybe when it came right down to the nitty gritty he decided that they were not compatible physically. This can happen whether you sleep with someone right away or wait for marriage.
it's a possibility......

Not all people are mature enough to be kind and honest.
 msflis
Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 2:11:50 PM

Wow.13 pages in one day. I'm not wading thru all of that. No disrespect intended to previous posters.


But Cindy, some of it was FUN! And educational, too!

--Ms. Flis
 printer2
Joined: 6/19/2007
Msg: 309
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Posted: 1/5/2008 4:38:38 PM


Soo many people on this forum seem to dish out the advice.............

And you can not seem to listen up.


...if this is the case..these players somehow should be punished and stopped for their selfish behavior because lets be honest and face facts here...their producing a very incredulous and negative world!


Saving the world are we?

I think there is more damage done because guys are not allowed to get it enough. Come on women. Do your part. You know as men we will.



Let me make myself more clear here for all you ones that dont grasp the vital point im trying to make....

I think we did get your point. You just do not seem to see 95% of the posts think you have lost touch with reality.


..he even went has far to manipulate her verbally into sexual intercourse with him by telling her she was acting silly and child like after she told this man 3 TIMES verbally she didnt feel ready for sex with him...but he patronised her verbally by making her feel childish and silly if she didnt!.... so he did use verbal force and manipulation !

that she did fear she would lose him if she didnt please him sexually....

This did not sound like tricking her to me. He is an abusive sob and your friend should have told him to hit the road. But oh wait she might LOSE him. And then she would be alone. So her choice was to have sex or to be alone. She chose. Get over it.


Thank you mikkisue, I would have missed this one if it were not for you. Hardest I laughed today.


How can someone truly trick you into a sexual encounter? Did they squeeze your head and your legs popped open.



Just to keep this silly thread open OP(not that it seems to need it), how would we determine who should be charged and what should the punishment be? Do we clog up our courts even more and would not it disrupt society more if we did rather than have your friend keep her legs together?
 printer2
Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 1/5/2008 5:38:27 PM
^^^^
Some of the quicker people around here would have seen that as a put down of men.
If you have to spell out a joke it is just not that funny anymore.

edit: sorry, for post 325
 ffryan
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Posted: 1/5/2008 6:11:35 PM
Lying to people just to get what you want is certainly a terrible and insensitive thing to do, but you can't make any law against it. You would have to outlaw all forms of lying. Is it fair to make a law against this, but ok it when a woman lies to a man out her level of interest because she is afraid to say the simple words, "I'm not interested".

If you are making somebody have sex against their will, then yes this is unquestionably rape. It's not rape when two adults consentually have sex.

If you want to ensure that the man you are intimate with is being honest, then make him earn your trust first. Maybe even make him put a ring on your finger or wait until your wedding night. It worked for my grandparents generation. All of my grandparents were married before they had their first intimate encounter, and they were married for over 50 years each.
 MzBigNSexy1
Joined: 6/12/2006
Msg: 317
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Posted: 1/5/2008 6:39:39 PM

because lets face it tricking somebody into bed with lies and conning them with the promise of long lasting love and maybe more!! is kind of wrong!


First thinks first , Of course it's wrong , but that is life . If the person wants to use judgement to go to a private head quarter before you truly know a person whether you meet them online , in a bar , over the phone or what , that is a chance you will be taking EVERY BLOODY TIME!!! COMMON SENSE!!! Tell your friends to use it and stop opening the legs up for common people . There is NO SUCH THING as being tricked into bed . Can you trip and fall and land on a mans private part ? NOOOO!!!! Damn I hate hearing those damn sob stories .


do you truely think the act or practice of deceiving, concealment or deliberate distortion of truth for the purpose of someones sexual gain is duplicity that the law should protect??? and maybe should be seen as second class rape??


Now Next, the fact you compared these "friends" Idiocy to rape makes me beleive that you are just as messed up in the head to ever compare serious sex crimes with your girlfriends bad taste . tsk tsk
 johnemanuel
Joined: 7/22/2007
Msg: 320
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Posted: 1/5/2008 7:06:40 PM
I wish somebody would trick me into sex....
 zangie
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Posted: 1/5/2008 8:01:33 PM
No: there shouldn't be a law..you can't legislate a person's intent, motivation or romantic behavior.

Yes: there were red flags that were ignored or rationalized..

Yes: we have responsibility for our decisions...

Having said all that though:

I am disappointed at the number of people who imply (somewhat arrogantly, IMHO) that they have never made any human errors, they ALWAYS make the right decisions, they've never done anything dumb, short sighted or foolish (especially in matters of the heart), and they have always been able to read the intent of anyone they come in contact with. Well, gee, I'm so jealous I'm not that smart, wise and perfect...but, I am human , and far from perfect.

Marrykind made what I thought was a valid point. Many people (and women in particular) when relating this kind of hurt...already know they goofed..they aren't looking for anyone to point is out some more, call them names, and tell them how to fix it. What they are usually looking for is sympathy for the pain? Maybe just a hug and told it will be ok? That's far different from asking for absolution for any mistakes on their part. It is reasonable to feel pain when bad things happen, even if it was your fault to some extent.(Sometimes even more in that case) I surmise that the OP was really supporting her friends pain, more than looking for a legal solution. We all have to live through pain in our lives..and sometimes, what is needed is just the acknowledgment that it is ok to feel it.

Reminds me of the oft repeated axiom..when women are upset..they aren't looking for someone to "fix" it, or tell them how stupid they are..they are just looking for a little empathy...

Would it kill people to be sympathetic to the hurt....even while saying why the premise of a law regulating it would be dumb?

Or, I guess...is it possible for most on POF forums to disagree without calling names, and acting above everyone else?

JMHO
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