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 Outdoor2
Joined: 4/1/2006
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I'm thinking of not voting this time aroundPage 2 of 5    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)

I'm thinking of not voting this time around

The less you vote the more they win.

Nobody votes....it's a win by acclamation.

Totalitarianism is not far behind....
 Ezzee
Joined: 7/26/2004
Msg: 13
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 2/15/2008 7:53:46 AM
Also, realize that there are more than two people on the Presidential election. Last election there were 16 different candidates, plus you always have the option to write someone in.

Look at all of them, yes, all 16, and decide from there. If you still feel so strongly against all of the candidates, then write someone in or don't vote, but be sure to fully research all of the candidates.
 bob0colo
Joined: 4/9/2006
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What's that again there eh?
Posted: 2/16/2008 5:43:11 PM
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Actually the UK has a higher per capita National Debt than the US and Canada has one of he highest public debts of the Americas like 69% of GNP.

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Didn't your mother ever say..."just cause Johnny jumps off a bridge "??????

The facts are from 2004...........

GW Bush will be asking to up the debt to maybe

$10 Trillion before he leaves office.
 Sematic_Poise
Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 26
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 6/5/2008 10:07:39 AM
The best thing to do if you don't want any of the candidates is to not vote.

That way, the rest of us who really want change will have no problem voting in the person who will bring in his people to make things right.

If you don't like any of the candidates -- don't vote. Then it won't screw up the count and get the wrong person in office.
 YearoftheCat
Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 29
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 6/5/2008 7:23:19 PM
It's doubtful I will vote this time around. Maybe it will be a race where lower voter turn-out favors Democrats because there's plenty of Republicans unhappy with our candidate. Like me!
 lonesome wonderer
Joined: 12/26/2007
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 6/13/2008 10:32:38 PM

our vote is only worthless if you don't use it.

that's true....if you were to cast your vote it could be either way for who's to run this country. you're vote can be a deciding vote just as mine would be.


THIS IS CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN: VOTE 'EM ALL OUT! ALL OF THEM!!!

you got my vote....vote'm all the hell out of office and let's regain our country again. i've been told that we're due for a new civil war. let's get everyone out of office and get regular people in, people that are for the people and not for the power. i know that's easier said then done since once a person gets the taste of power and control they abuse it but then again i'm sure there are people out there that care about our country enough to actually know how to run it.

i'm personally against the way everything is being ran in our country, the way our rights as people are being stripped away little at a time. what ever happened to "we the people for the people"?
 scotlandforever
Joined: 1/19/2008
Msg: 32
What's that again there eh?
Posted: 6/14/2008 2:37:26 AM
Mightybird, National Defense is not all it takes to make a strong and secure nation. Without attention to our infrastructure and some sound economic policies to get the country back on track we are going to be in for some real trouble as a nation.

If you have a reasonably well paying job but are having trouble paying your bills and are nervous about the huge increases in food and gas over the past year alone, consider how many people in the country do not have as good a job as you. How are they making ends meet? How long can we watch the gap between the rich and the poor continue to grow and expect that it won't ultimately effect national defense as well?
 lonesome wonderer
Joined: 12/26/2007
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What's that again there eh?
Posted: 6/14/2008 8:34:34 AM
that's just it insolent....i'd love to see and every day person make it into office.....not because of money, not because of their education but because they know what's going on with the country around them based on first hand (hand's on) experience. you don't find many people that has a "social agenda" running for office.....would you like to run for office? anymore i'd much rather vote for the chimp in the zoo since he's a lot smarter then some in office. those that are not physically capable aren't able to afford running for any office. i'm not saying to punish the rich, just don't make the rich get richer because they're only in it for greed and power.

oh and you said about those not being physically capable deserving our assistance???? sure everyone does just as much as the next person but do they get it? no! do they need and deserve it? yes! does the country care? no! the country (federal government) doesn't care because we're only a number, a statistic, a vote. they don't care if we have to crawl in on our hands and knees to vote as long as it's casted. the economy does not concern everyone, the economy looks down on the poor and make things harder to survive without the fight to get the public assistance through the state, the federal government makes is hard for the disabled to get the much needed help as well with having to file appeal after appeal to get money that they paid in through their taxes. did you know that it's easier for a psychotic person or a drug addicted person to get ssi/ssdi then it is for a person that can't move their back because of it being fused together, not able to walk because they badly need knee replacements.

this country is too busy handing free money out to immigrants for moving here and giving them rights that we had to work hard for years for us to get. instead of our country taking care of their own they decide to try to be show offs by butting into another country's affairs and fighting their war for them. omg, let me get out of here!
 dragonpat
Joined: 9/29/2006
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What's that again there eh?
Posted: 8/18/2008 11:24:26 PM
Personally, I can not vote for Obama, as he is too extream in some of his views for me. Socialistic althought that is not the correct term, i would rather use the term stateist. McCain to me is no winner either. Flip flops and still isnt really defending what i value. So i shall vote this year for Thomas Jefferson.. yes he is dead and i know he wont win, but he did win at one time so i can delude myself into feeling i am backing a winner... lol..... As for this year, no matter who wins we the nation will loose. That revolution cant happen soon enough.
 zabet
Joined: 10/27/2007
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VOTE. It is a privilege you still have!
Posted: 8/19/2008 6:39:54 AM
If more people voted maybe we wouldn't be in the messes we're in! Check out voter turnout entry in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout

There's a general consensus among people who study voter turnout that the more money you have the more likely you are to vote, and the more education you have the more likely you are to vote. In other words, if you're poor and/or don't have a college degree you're less likely to vote.

Those who have power and wealth want to hold on to it, and one way to make sure of that is to convince (through subtle and not so subtle means) people who don't have those that they shouldn't bother voting.
 1AuthenticFellow
Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 47
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/20/2008 8:02:21 PM
if you don't vote than you have no right to disscuss politics.
this is your right in a democratic society....
speak your case.....GOVERNMENTS SHOULD FEAR THE PEOPLE,
 1AuthenticFellow
Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 49
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/21/2008 6:07:13 AM
V for vendetta is a movie??... I bet you probably believe that famous saying " with great power comes great responsibility", is from spider man,
it was actually Gorge Washington, you need to read some books bro..lol


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty - Thomas Jefferson,

2 great US Presidents
 1AuthenticFellow
Joined: 7/27/2008
Msg: 51
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/21/2008 12:43:25 PM
true enough man...lol
 Seas_the_Day
Joined: 7/20/2008
Msg: 52
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/21/2008 5:09:18 PM
OP, this is the first time I've felt like not voting for a Presidential candidate as well.. it's to the point where I dont' care anymore it shouldn't be that way..maybe things will change before November.
 dragonpat
Joined: 9/29/2006
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/22/2008 7:02:45 PM
in a comprimise with evil, only evil wins. Therefore to choose the lesser of two evils is still to choose evil and by default evil wins.
 exodusi1
Joined: 8/19/2006
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/22/2008 7:07:12 PM
Obama is far from evil. . . . That stereotype wsa born by radicals who have nothing better to do than create spread lies in chain emails.

 cncgandolf
Joined: 7/29/2007
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/22/2008 8:05:19 PM
"Consider what would happen if all those folks that feel there's little use to voting (usually over half your population feel the futility of it), and even just half of the rest of the chicken lueys that already know they're picking an evil suddenly grow a set and stand by their moral convictions and vote for a guy like say, this time Nader"

Why pick just on Nader? (Sorry, I've not liked the guy since the early 1970's and long before politics) There are so many "third" (fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh) parties to choose from.

If this country would like to replace one or both of the Democrat or Republican parties they need to get the "third" parties to all find a common ground of change that people can believe in. Tally up the ones that don't want to be either of the "current" 2 and the total of all those voting all the various third parties and you will have a challenging group.

We have had a new party come into existence in this country which ending up replacing the prior third party. We can do it again - but not from being fragmented.

Give me a choice other than Nader. Shudder.
 exodusi1
Joined: 8/19/2006
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/25/2008 12:18:37 PM
Hopefully your friend's case is far better than things were under Jeb!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File

James Lee's testimony
On 17 April, 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[citation needed]

Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001. [1]


 oddandy
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 75
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/25/2008 4:21:12 PM
The concept of America I love, this federal government I hate them. And I hate them because they are the height of wickedness. No matter who wins you will wake up the next day and still be living under the draconian " patriot act ". Until someone is will to abolish that, they can count me out.


Amen, brother. Amen.

What absolutely KILLS me is that so many good people actually support the evil.
 oddandy
Joined: 3/5/2008
Msg: 82
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/26/2008 10:21:49 AM
Maneuver: Do you have a sister?
 Green Sangha
Joined: 3/12/2008
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/26/2008 12:04:51 PM
I can't urge people enough: please vote. It is your right and a privilege for which other people have died. It is not good enough to sit and whine about what wasn't fair in the primary. We have two clearly different choices and so much is at stake in our country that for those who love America, we must all have our voices heard. We cannot continue on the path W. has set us on and which McCain will certainly continue, in my opinion, so I urge you to vote for Obama, even if it is a bit distasteful. Anyone who refuses to vote should be ashamed of your lack of commitment to our democratic republic. Democracy is a two way street that requires participation. There is no excuse for not voting.
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 86
I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/26/2008 1:10:45 PM
Lets take a strict, free market approach to voting:

This election will not be determined by a single vote. So your vote won't decide anything. So if you truly believe in laissez faire capitalism, your time will be better spent doing anything else.

All those who believe in supply side capitalism should vote with your feet and not show up. Otherwise you risk participating in a socialistic exercise where all get together and sacrifice their time for the common good.
 dragonpat
Joined: 9/29/2006
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I'm thinking of not voting this time around
Posted: 8/26/2008 5:25:51 PM
After reading the posts in this forum and in many others i have come to a few conclusions. First off, anyone who would vote for candidate X just to keep Y from being in power is also adding to the frustrations of those who are like the OP. THey dont see any change, cause there isnt any. Each person should vote. Vote for who they think will do the best job in the office in question. If you have not found a person who is running for office that is the best for the job, in your opinion, write in one. No, write ins dont count in any sense. Most states wont even count the number of write ins. But at least you are exercising your vote and not choosing the lessor of two evils or being an anti-vote. At least that is how i see it.
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