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 xxlt
Joined: 3/16/2007
Msg: 370
Mr.WrightPage 4 of 29    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
jmarquise is absolutely right in his last (and only his last, javascript:smilie('') ) post. (JK jm.)

If or where someone goes to Church shouldn't even be asked of presidential candidates. Every church has lunatic members and ALL church leaders say things that are offensive to some. It kind of goes with the territory of being a church leader. As far as all the "critiques" of Afro-centrist, liberal theology - or whatever people were calling it - let's just call a spade a spade, and a racist a racist. You know who you are.

News flash: Obama was born to a white woman and a black man, has friends and supporters from all over the ethnic spectrum, and is running an inclusive campaign that appeals to more "types" than either McCain or Clinton. Any suggestion that he is a racist (or "racialist," whatever that means) reveals a tragic level of ignorance and racism in the accuser. Those things, racism and ignorance, tend to go hand in hand. So now tell us how dumb Obama is too. Or, better yet, just admit your real opinions about Obama by saying, "I am a bigot." Sadly, you won't be alone.
 xxlt
Joined: 3/16/2007
Msg: 372
Mr.Wright
Posted: 4/11/2008 8:48:30 AM
Right - label Spike clueless for making "White Men" - but not racist. On the other hand, "Do The Right Thing" is an amazing movie about race. Love that movie - Spike as Mars Blackmon and Danny Aiello as Sal alone would make the movie worth watching - but that movie is awesome! Everyone, black, white, or Barney the Dinosaur purple should watch that movie.
 xxlt
Joined: 3/16/2007
Msg: 375
Mr.Wright
Posted: 4/11/2008 1:56:59 PM
nick,

You are correct, of itself having a certain genetic makeup doesn't make you immune to being racist. My only point was that people who grew up under Obama's circumstance seem, intuitively, less likely to have absorbed our culture's racist values and not more likely. Likewise, having a father who was a tool doesn't mean you are one. Should Obama be ashamed of his race? Should he not revere his parents? In addition to being one of the "Ten Commandments," it seems honoring parents is a pretty universal norm in all cultures. It is challenging for all of us sometimes to love our folks, but most people try to, no matter what lousy thing (abandonment, abuse, etc) they may have done. I fail to see how being a polygamist makes you a racist. I have never heard the assertion that Obama's father was a polygamist, but I fail to see its relevance. Do you assume that all marriage is an act of misogyny and therefore if you marry you hate not only women, but all members of the race of the woman you happened to marry? You started off with a good logical point and then made little sense after that.
 faith2565
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/11/2008 6:26:42 PM
THIS IS OLD NEWS!!!!



Breaking from Newsmax.com

Obama Closing Superdelegates Gap

Barack Obama is gaining steadily on Hillary Clinton among Democratic superdelegates, nearly erasing her last advantage in a presidential race where those party insiders could be the ultimate kingmakers.

In a danger sign for Clinton, Obama over the past few months has sharply cut her lead among superdelegates — nearly 800 elected officials and party leaders free to back any candidate.

Story continues below . . .



"Obama has won more delegates, he's won more votes, he's raised more money, and now you see it happening with superdelegates too," said Simon Rosenberg, head of the Democratic advocacy group NDN.

Neither Obama nor Clinton is likely to win enough pledged delegates in state contests to clinch the hard-fought battle for the Democratic presidential nomination, leaving superdelegates to decide the race. The Democratic nominee will face Republican John McCain in the November election.

Despite heavy courting by Clinton, most of the superdelegates who made up their minds since January backed Obama. Clinton's superdelegate lead dwindled to about 30 from 100 in that time.

A count by MSNBC gives Clinton 256 superdelegates to Obama's 225. Obama, an Illinois senator, has gained steam in the past month, winning more than two dozen new commitments, compared with a handful for Clinton, a New York senator.

"It has been a drip, drip, drip toward Obama," said Steven Schier, a political analyst at Carleton College in Minnesota.

"Superdelegates can see Obama's advantages growing, and it's pretty clear it's going to be very hard for Clinton to catch him," he said. "If Obama notches a few more victories, it could become a stampede."

Obama has suggested that superdelegates back the candidate with the most pledged delegates — he leads by about 130 — and popular votes. He leads Clinton by about 700,000 votes, excluding contests in Florida and Michigan that were not sanctioned by the national party.

Clinton has struggled to overtake Obama in the Democratic contest and has rejected calls from some Obama supporters to get out of the race.

More than 300 superdelegates remain uncommitted or have yet to be named, giving the candidate who wins the bulk of them a path to the nomination.

CLINTON TRIES TO CLOSE GAP

Clinton hopes a strong run in the last 10 contests starting April 22 in Pennsylvania will close the gap with Obama in pledged delegates and popular votes, bolstering her claim she is best suited to beating McCain.

The private battle for superdelegates has been as tough as the public campaign for votes, with both camps courting uncommitted party leaders and trying to keep supporters in line.

Clinton has suffered high-profile reversals like the decision by U.S. Rep. John Lewis of Georgia, a prominent black supporter, to switch to Obama. Another superdelegate ally, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, suggested that backing a candidate who did not win the popular vote "would be a hard argument to make."

But she recently won the support of U.S. Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania and picked up three more superdelegates this week.

"Most superdelegates are in a holding pattern. They're waiting to see what happens in Pennsylvania and down the road before they make any decisions," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

Rosenberg said the recent string of superdelegate endorsements for Obama made that argument hard to swallow. "A substantial number have moved — and most are moving to Obama," he said.

Wayne Holland, chairman of the Utah Democratic Party and a superdelegate, endorsed Obama on Thursday. He said he thought Obama could help Democratic candidates throughout Utah and the West by attracting new voters, donors and volunteers.

"As state chair, my job is to try to elect as many Democrats in various offices in this state as possible," he said. "I was looking for who could best help us win here, and that was overwhelmingly Senator Obama."

© 2008 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.


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OLD NEWS!! JUST LIKE CHRISTMAS!
 xxlt
Joined: 3/16/2007
Msg: 386
Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:11:16 AM
Atlantaman123 is so on it! We should have a telethon for all the unfortunate, wealthy white kids like "W." They were born into wealth and privilege. They were admitted to Ivy League schools as "legacies." That is, they were admitted not for a "bad" reason like being black but for a "good" reason; because their parents were wealthy alumni. With the deck so stacked against them, how do brilliant deserving men like "W" ever get anywhere in this unfair, oppressive country??! Please make a generous pledge for the aristocracy today! And if you can't pledge, please vote McCain, our last best hope for rich white Americans to finally get a fair shake.
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:22:43 AM
I'm not saying it's not true, but I have trouble believing that affirmative action will get you a diploma from Princeton or Harvard while writing a thesis in crayon even if it might have given them opportunities to be considered for admission. AA does have limitations in how many opportunities you have to provide and there is as much brilliance within minorities that they wouldn't pass someone who's thesis was written as described.

AA might open the door, but they still have to achieve once they walk inside that door.
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:26:23 AM

xxlt, this is the same country that made paris hilton famous


Is that so wrong?
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/13/2008 2:47:32 PM
So what we've learned of Obama Sr. is that he was Kenyan?
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 401
Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/13/2008 2:53:25 PM
It is interesting that they're trying to run against his absent father or his minister.

Just means they're terrified of Obama. They know they can't beat him, so they're trying to run against someone else. Of course, the Democratic nominee will do his or her best to run against W too, so it cuts both ways.
 xxlt
Joined: 3/16/2007
Msg: 402
Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/13/2008 5:47:18 PM
Halftime Dad, Obfuscating is the one thing the Republicans still accelerate at. Karl Rove has made it a staple of their playbooks: deny reality, call up down, black white, war heroes traitors, etc. It should surprise no one that they are running a negative campaign that focuses on anything but facts or the actual candidate that they attack vicariously. What is sad, is their methods have worked in the past. As jmarq. pointed out, this is the country that worships at the Paris Hilton altar. George Carlin went a little further on this topic in HBO special "Life is Worth Leaving." If you get a chance take a look at it, so funny, yet soooo sad in its critique of our nation.
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/16/2008 9:21:51 AM
That could be a song J-Marq.

I've been guilty of getting personal on here, most of us have. The fact is that in any forum whether it be an internet forum or a forum of conversation of our peers, we all have to remember that none one of us has a grounds of absolute righteousness to judge another. All any of us have any moral license to say is "I agree because..." or "I disagree because..." anything more extreme is just a display of our own faults.
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/16/2008 9:50:54 AM
I do know that the Clintons totally destroyed Fleetwood Mac's "Don't Stop" for me. McCain has a theme song doesn't he?
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/16/2008 1:06:28 PM
Yeah, J. See that smile you put on Skye's face right there? Yep, you did that.
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/16/2008 2:23:23 PM
It's nice to be nice to the nice.
 faith2565
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/17/2008 5:56:09 PM
jmarquise


haha. a theme song for mccain. what would that be? crazy by patsy kline? I think that's who sings it.


You have made my day!!!
 faith2565
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/20/2008 12:03:30 PM
Religion or the lack of is becoming a scapegoat to keep us away from the true issues that need to be continously brought to the forefront of this election. The issue is not Wright, Hagee or Clinton's old minister. These are the issues.

ECONOMICS

FOOD PRICES

GAS PRICES

FORECLOSERS

WAR IN IRAQ

HEALTH CARE ETC.

These are the real issues, please vote for the person that you feel best represents you in these area's.

Have a Blessed Day! My son is coming home for R&R from Iraq!
 itechman63
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/28/2008 8:50:13 AM

As Tip O'neill said, "Politics ain't beanbag".


But too often it can be Cornhole.
 darjeeling
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/28/2008 10:55:11 AM

... but he's not selling "hate and resentment".

As per usual Steven, those who most often wage such accusation are generally under the spell of their own psychological projections, no matter what political shore they harbor from. Very common.

Next Hitlers ... poppin' up all over the place! Good Lord!

Yeah ... I think I read a Zombie thread about that, when was that, yesterday?

~ where's that hitler zombie icon? ~

Caw
 faith2565
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/28/2008 4:09:02 PM
The sad part is that is the only real thing they can find against Obama, so it is being played like a fiddle. Clinton has lied (blantantly) an it keeps being over looked. Rev. Wright stated his church represented the struggle of the black church. On some levels I could relate, but honestly it does not represent the struggle of any black church I have attended. My problem now with the some black churches is the continous prosperity ministry. I am tired of hearing pastors that live in million dollar homes and travel first class everywhere beg for money.

I am really getting tired of this once again 'black people' meaning all 'black people'. This is becoming a joke.

I think that Obama is truly the best candidate for the job, but the drama is getting old and today gas was almost 4.00 a gallon. I went to the grocery store and almost passed out at the price of food.

Where do we go from here?
 motownmaniax
Joined: 8/13/2006
Msg: 446
Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/29/2008 5:42:39 AM
Obama needs to cut ties with Wright, period. I'm an Obama supporter, too. Wright just gave absolutely bizarre and narcissistic performances during the recent NAACP dinner and question and answer period at the National Press Club. I'm sure you can find snippets and commentary on YouTube. If there was any doubt about his toxic effect on Obama's campaign it should finally be laid to rest. What looks even worse are the hooting, hollering, sycophantic crowd responses from what looks like black sympathizers in the audience. For Obama to win the election, he'll need black "and" white support. Performances like Wright's only hurt this delicate voter coalition. Somebody needs to muzzle this guy.

Btw, good commentary on the recent appearances....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXCMoOqCnE
 bob0colo
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Mr.Wright.... "Obama is a politician"
Posted: 4/29/2008 8:30:59 AM
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Wright seemed to me to be a little bit P/O'ed at Obama.....


He is going on a speaking tour. Obama is going to be Hurt by the Rev...

He turns off the voters Obama has to have....
 motownmaniax
Joined: 8/13/2006
Msg: 450
Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/29/2008 11:58:29 AM
Great point about the dilution of real conservatism, tmpzor.

The problem with the Republicans is when they finally dominated government under Bush they ended up spending like the Dems (or my other favorite metaphor -- drunken sailors...lol). Part of it was due to the exigencies of a post-9-11 reality, but not all.

The disease of big government seems to be ideology-blind and doesn't respect party affiliation. As President, I don't think a Ron Paul or Alan Keys could even begin to address the problem. It must take grassroots change by the voting public at large by simply kicking out the entrenched politicos and getting people in that are sworn to change this mindset of greed. That doesn't mean violent revolution or other such knee-jerk, survivalist nonsense. It really shouldn't be that difficult if people stop voting for incumbents and start voting their true conscience.

 faith2565
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Mr.Wright (Move On)
Posted: 4/29/2008 8:02:56 PM
Rev. is acting like the stereotype. He said we play the dozens and that is correct, but he is being the crab in the bucket. Pulling another one down because he is not the focus.

He is upset because Obama had to distance himself from the crazy fool. I am just hurt that he did not distance himself a long time ago, but I too have family members that attend churches they have outgrown (not liberation theory, just plan boring not growing outdated churches) , but are too loyal are dumb to leave. I guess it is guilt. That is not me, you don't fit, I quit.

Wright is pissed and now he is going to bad mouth. He is being a crab in the bucket. He needs to leave the south side of Chicago and move on. Better yet, go back and stop hattin as the kids would say. He is being a 'hater'

This is going to hurt Obama, and I pray that Obama has learned a lesson.

Leave some black folks alone.

My father use to tell me when you move out of the ghetto sometimes you can go back and speak, but you can not hang out there because they do not mean you any good. They will get jealous and try to set you up because you do not have their back.

My fathers favorite saying was 'you can take some black people out of the ghetto, but you can not always take the ghetto out of some black folks'.

Most people I know were very upset with what he said.

His rantings did not represent any church I have attended.

There is a 'Shrine of the Black Madonna' here in Houston and the preach black liberation theory, but that is not ALL black churches.

I was born Methodist and yes, the Methodist church has done allot for blacks since slavery. He was correct majority of our schools did come out of the church. But, in 2008 the sermons I hear are on prosperity.

He does not represent me just like many other so called black leaders.

Obama has been the closes one that I could relate to in a while (national level). So, yes this hurts me. He is of mixed heritage, raised in mixed environment and attended mixed schools where he became the President of organizations (that were non black).

It has been nice having someone that I can relate too. All blacks did not grow up in the ghetto and went to jail before the age of 2 with mama's on welfare and daddy's in jail.

Yes, I am angry now, because once again the SAMBO has spoken and it is suppose to represent me.

The rapper does not represent me nor the comedian (except Cosby and Will Smith).

Why is it when blacks like me try to stand up and represent the Flav O Flav's of the world have to take the stage.

If this puts Hillary on the ticket. I pray that Wright was paid well. Wright can take his black butt to the other side of heaven.

Yes, you guys may not can say that because it may appear racist, so let me say it.

If any African Americans have issues with my words (oh well). I am tired of someone saying the truth and being crucified. When Bill Cosby said what he said many crucified him and that is why the Lil Kim's are still center stage.

I pray because I got this upset they do not block me. I did go back and revise my language.

Feel better know.

 faith2565
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Mr.Wright
Posted: 4/29/2008 8:46:50 PM
SimmahDahnNah

I am glad you can feel my pain. This always happens. This is what we were afraid of, and yes most of the times it is one of us that kills us. Just like they killed Malcolm X when he stopped being racist and realized that all whites were not prejudice. The Nation of Islam had him killed.

Why didn't Wright use Judas kissing Jesus as an illustration. No, Clinton fans I am not comparing Obama the person to Jesus the person, but the situations.

I feel that Wright has sold his soul for a silver. In the end Judas hung himself. So, in the end Wright will hang himself.

I guess Wright did not realize that the Methodist church (born in) did help us get an education (fourth generation educator) so now we can read the bible and draw our own conclusions.

That is what Wright is doing.

As long as we are seen as buffoons and fools things are fine, because that is the image we are suppose to have been when we start being intelligent and groomed we are killed by our own people (terms uncle tom, sell out, Oreo etc.).

Examples: Oprah, Tyra Banks, Tiger Woods, Bryant Gumbel and even though I do not care for his views Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice.

I am tired of the Flav's getting all of the attention. In my heart I feel that Clinton's people had something to do with this fool speaking (HIS VIEWS, NOT THE BLACK COMMMUNITIES VIEWS).

I know the democrats need to be in office, but it is not going to happen.

McCain will get my vote if Hillary is on the ticket.

Well, my son loves the military. If McCain is President I feel he will be taken care of because we will not be able to leave Iraq no matter who is in office.

Once again thanks for feeling my pain. But, this happens to us every time. When Bill Cosby spoke out he was executed by the black community even though what he said we were saying behind closed doors.

Behind closed doors we are saying Wright is a FOOL. But watch some so called 'negro leader' justify his dumb butt.

I can't wait to see what they say to support his butt, because in our community you are never to say that one of our leaders is a fool. Quote me 'WRIGHT IS A GHETTO FOOL!!!!!!!!" Trust me someone is going to try to clean up the mess.

The best thing Obama can do is move on and continue with the campaign. If he does not get the nomination lesson learned. He has gone allot further than any other African American man in history. He has already made history. He will always be a winner in my eyes. Now, just like the African American community has banned together to assist him in this election we need to place our energy on whomever else is on the ballot. Either vote for the independent candidate or McCain.

Now the country knows (like the civil rights movement) not to ignore us. Maybe Obama needs to meet with McCain and assist him with a economic and health care plan so he can win the election.

I feel better again SimmahDahnNah !
 OneBlend
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Mr.Wright
Posted: 4/29/2008 9:53:00 PM
I don't support Obama, Clinton or McCain because I don't feel they address the real issues and are only going along with a political script to appease the people who dare not question the govt.

As far as Wright is concerned, I credit him for stirring the pot and being a voice of dissent against the same corrupt govt that has all of you worried what future lies ahead for you and your children. If he were white you'd be calling him a conspiracy theorist and a racist - he's black so you call him a fool and a racist.
Sure his association with Farrakan will scare anyone off, but he's dead on when it comes to pointing out who controls this govt and some of the worst events that have taken place which have caused this country to quickly spiral out of control. Maybe he doesn't belong in the Obama passivist camp and belongs in a camp all his own. I don't agree with everything he says, but I'll give him credit where credit is due. He doesn't need to be silenced, this isn't nazi Germany yet.

I neither care what white or black think of my opinion, but what if it is YOU who are failing to recognize the importance in this message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ&feature=related
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