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 MrGuyCaballero
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Msg: 23
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Re: Msg 30

Ah, the gay joke, the standard retreat position of those with a failed argument. Well done. The ultimate irony? Followed it with "people that spread thier hate". Unreal.

For the record, I do think your intentions in making this thread and giving this advice were good ones. But you gave medical advice that I don't think holds water, so I expressed my opinion. Still, as I said, people are free to try it for themselves and I doubt it'll do them harm. They may even get a beneficial placebo effect.
 jacel0
Joined: 3/1/2005
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Posted: 3/20/2008 4:49:47 AM
----------------Well; mrguycaballero--- The gay caballero---- was first said about 1930, I think. The Cisco Kid; -- It's just too hard for my touge too express; -----So I went with the saying ;

For the record, I do think your intentions in making this thread and giving this advice were good ones. But you gave medical advice that I don't think holds water, so I expressed my opinion. Still, as I said, people are free to try it for themselves and I dought it'll do them harm. They may even get a beneficial placebo effect.
reply---------------Thank you for expressing your thoughts; -- But scentists find new ways to do things -- all the time; And I didn't give medical advice. I didn't prescribe any meds.. And, I just might have thought of a way that no one had thought of; But the way I did it; --- WORKS ---WORKS --- WORKS;


I've got to agree with Motley. The claim that doing these things the OP suggests will get rid of the flu overnight just can't be reasonably considered realistic. For one, he admits not knowing what he had. Was the virus actually identified? No. Therefor the claim is not valid.

reply---------------No, I didn't know just what I had; Didn't have the money to go to a doctor.-- Cides, doctors DON'T know what thier doing; You OWE them when you walk into thier office; -- They don't have to KNOW; It says under thier name---PRACTICER;--- I seen 22 doctors in a 3 year period, the 18th, KNEW WHAT ASPARTAME WAS; (1); So giving doctors credit for knowing what they are doing. ---- That IDEA sucks;

saying;----- --------I looked at motley's history posting on differant sights; She posted 26 times on 3-17-08; Commets that cut down the author of the post; Or expressed her thought that what ever it was posted was IDIOTIC; --in her opinion; --- SHE DOESN'T KNOW IT ALL; I'm open to new ideas all the time;
 MrGuyCaballero
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 25
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Posted: 3/20/2008 4:32:57 PM
I suppose I should've said "health advice" rather than "medical advice". And you're right at least that doctors don't know everything. Nobody does. They still know far more about this sort of thing than the average person, though.

And yes, scientists do discover new ways of doing things, but they go about it using the scientific method, which was not employed here.

It's good to be open to new ideas when they're well-supported, but it's not good to be open to new ideas just because they're new. I know you have personal evidence that this seems to work, for you. I think our disagreement basically comes down to me believing it'd have been better for you to say "Here's something that has seemed to get rid of what I think have been colds and the flu, though I was never diagnosed." Qualification of claims is important, in my opinion.
 jacel0
Joined: 3/1/2005
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Posted: 3/21/2008 4:16:08 AM
mrguycaballero,
I have a new respect for your honesty.
You DO see just what I have said; And that is very important to me;
I don't know just what I did have over the years-- but it does work;--- A couple of weeks ago; --- Since, I SWEAT like a dog;--hence, aspartame poisoning;--- I was working out in the yard, DIDN'T have my ears covered- in the wind-- cought a head cold;-- did just what I said, --cept I only put the rub around my neck--up; Got rid of the cold over night;---Did the same thing Tuesday-- cought it-- and got rid of it overnight, and Wednesday- did the same thing - and again got rid of it overnight. --- Cept Thurseday, --I stayed inside all day ; -----I had 3 colds --- in 3 days; --- Got rid of each --everytime-- overnight;----I do speak the truth; Why it works, I DON'T KNOW,----BUT IT WORKS; ---It might be,--- breathing the fumes? ? ?
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/22/2008 11:16:25 AM
Carefull--- Your gonna show your TRUE INTELLIGENCE; Your words already show that;
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Posted: 3/23/2008 7:27:41 PM

(2) Get a tube of MUSCAL RUB;--- LIKE DEEP HEAT, that makes the body very hot;
(4) PUT RUB ALL OVER YOUR BODY--- PASTY---ARMS -- LEGS -- BACK -- CHEST -- NECK AND FOREHAED AND TEMPLES;
(5) CRAWL UNDER THE BLANKETS AND GO TO SLEEP;


As some one who, after my bike accident, used to go in and buy three of the largest tubes of ben gay at one time here is what bothers me with your suggestion:

a) Do NOT put it anywhere near your eyes. NO to the forehead, no to the temples. Vick's vaporub is made for that, ben gay is not.

Even putting it on your neck the fumes can irritate your eyes as those fumes travel upwards.

Says right on the package never to cover yourself tightly -- you can get chemical burns that way. Going to sleep would be super dumb since you would not be able to feel when and if you're getting burned.

b) Be extremely careful suggesting all over and legs. I don't even put the stuff on my legs and once an awhile after I have gone to the bathroom mr happy will feel that ben gay burn -- it is not fun. It's part of why I won't use that brand anymore -- too greasy, nearly impossible to wash off unless you use scalding water and even then there is some under your fingernails that can linger for days.

Buy a water based product.

Frankly, if you want my two cents, you should have bought a homeopathic remedy and used vicks vaporub right across the upper lip just before bedtime. I had a sinus infection I fought this winter for like a month until I did this and it finished it off. Read:

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Posted: 3/23/2008 7:32:29 PM
Sorry for the double post but another thing occured to me -- Their have been announcements on the TV news that this year the allergens are unusually high right now.

I am no expert but I believe it is the oak species that releases their pollens now. Notice how they keep their leaves on all winter while most trees lose them? Then now in early spring they come off.

This would be a much more sensible explanation for your magical overnight cure.
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/25/2008 7:58:45 PM
This is to random entry---
Everyone that has TRIED MY way of getting rid of WHATEVER they had; ---Did so;--- Just like I said;--- I just finnished talking to a friend that had a flue type cold for 7 weeks; I told him,--- You tried it your way for 7 weeks; -- Try it MY WAY just ONCE;--- IF it don't work, --- I will apologize; --- That was 3 weeks ago; --- He told me, he did it my way; --- He feels better than he did; --- It cleared up his head, and cleaned out some of his lungs;---- So DON'T think someone is wrong--- till you walk in thier shoes;--- IF you come down with anything;--- Try it-- MY WAY;--- IF it don't work;--- I'll apologize to you--- ON THIS SIGHT--- IN PUBLIC VIEW;---jacel---

This is to chrissy;
The flak I recieved, was from 2 people; One was from a man that DIDN'T see my way of thinking; ---Findly - he did;--- Good man;
The other was from someone who insults almost every author of every post she visited;--- Take a look at her history--- judge for yourself;--- Her written words will speek for me;
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/25/2008 8:01:10 PM
chrissy;
killer soup.
chop up tomatoes, lemons, chillies, garlic and ginger and simmer in a pot with vegetable stock for an hour.
I'll keep this in mind; SOUNDS GOOD;
 London Lass 59
Joined: 4/25/2007
Msg: 32
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Posted: 3/25/2008 8:15:09 PM
Well jacel, your cures may one day put myself and my doc out of business, it would be a lot cheaper for my patients to boil up a pot of soup for their ailments, than for us to prescribe expensive meds that might actually cure them!!!

Not sure how many patients would survive this concoction, but at least their insurance deductables and medical bills would be lower, but their grocery bills would skyrocket!!........


 jacel0
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Posted: 3/26/2008 5:00:49 AM
london lass;
I didn't come up with the soup;----That was chrissy, a couple of posts above you;---I have been getting rid of the -cold&flue for 34 years; ---I am the author of this thread; ---I don't do soup;--- But it might just work;---
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/26/2008 6:00:15 AM
LOST IN THE BURBS;
I had the same thing when I first did this; -- I think it was WALKING PNEUMONIA; -- I was so weak,- it took me about 10 monuites to get out of bed and get dressed;--- i was that weak--- I DIDN'T a have the money to go to the hosiptal, didn't know a doctor;-- went to a convience store, seen that they had aspirin - seen a tube of Deep Heat-- advertizing on the box-- flames jumping up off the body; -- Had a idea;- remembered an old adage my grandmother used to tell me;--- WHAT EVER YOU DO -YOU SWEAT IT OUT; Did just what I said; -- Woke-up 5 hours later--- felt like a million dollars;-- Try it-- IT WORKS;-- but don't dismiss it;--- IT WORKS;
 fishbill
Joined: 3/19/2005
Msg: 35
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Posted: 3/26/2008 7:04:24 AM
"""Cept Thurseday, --I stayed inside all day ; -----I had 3 colds --- in 3 days; --- Got rid of each --everytime-- overnight;----I do speak the truth; Why it works, I DON'T KNOW,----BUT IT WORKS; ---It might be,--- breathing the fumes? ? ?""

I really do have a flu! or Pneumonia right now I'm not sure. I do not have a sore throat, and I do not have headaches. Luckily, this type of thing only happens once or twice a year to me.

This has been going on since Saturday morning 4 days ago. My arms and calves ache like crazy (I just woke up and took 4 ibuprofens). If I breathe shallow there is little chest pain or "rasping", but if I "cough" volountarily or not, It's very coarse, and loosens thick dark phlegm. I am very weak, basically laying around the house all day.

I am going to call the Drs. Office here when they open.

I did use the Menthol salicylate muscle rub yesterday, and I think that does ease the symptoms of muscle pain.
 billymccool
Joined: 8/11/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 3/26/2008 6:19:33 PM
I agree with motley maiden. I was the unfortunate victim of the flu for the first time of my life this past winter. I can honestly say it was one of the worst things ive been through. I had to go to the hospital because my fever wouldnt break. I was at 104 which i guess is very very high.

The doctor told me it takes about 10 days for the flue to completely leave your body. I have an over-active immune system so my body passed it in about 4-5 days. But id say that my energy took atleast 10 days to return to normal.

Colds are a different story.
 crazytimes1
Joined: 3/24/2008
Msg: 37
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Posted: 3/27/2008 4:01:54 AM

-----I had 3 colds --- in 3 days; --- Got rid of each --everytime-- overnight;----

Chances are you just had one cold for three colds and your perception of the symptoms fluctuated throughout the day

I had the flu last year. Some days I was limited to several steps at a time, it took nearly a month to recover fully and I am a big strapping healthy lad. Although I really wish that your little trick worked with massive viral infections, I fear it does not. Thanks for the advice though.
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/27/2008 4:32:00 AM
crazytimes;
Just how can someone put something DOWN; -- Without ever trying it; -- I NEVER took anyones word for anything - in my life-- WITHOUT SEARCHING IT OUT TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS THE TRUTH; -- What I did, -WHY,- I don't know;--WORKS- IF you are taking moleys word-- that it don't work-- You have no insight yourself. -- Search it out, FINDOUT FOR YOURSELF--- BEFORE YOU TAKE ANYONES WORD;--- But it does work,-- for me,-- and 4 other people that I know, has done it -- JUST-- like I said;' There has been TWO people I KNOW in the past 2 weeks, THAT DID IT; Both friends;-- They tried it thier way-- one for 7 weeks; --THEY HAD NOTHING TO LOSE;-- so they TRIED it my way,-- IT WORKED-- JUST LIKE I SAID;
 crazytimes1
Joined: 3/24/2008
Msg: 39
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Posted: 3/27/2008 5:07:52 AM
Aside from the fact that your writing looks suspiciously like the contents of my spam filter, I am sure you are a nice person and all. That does not change the fact that your medical 'advice is not really based on any safe and sound reality.

I would indeed tend towards trying to sweat out a severe viral infection being harmful. Temperature extreme do not aid the immune system.

However, most people with common sense will not try your method. I do not plan on continuing this discussion either- your nonsensical writing and 'anecdotal' evidence pain me just to be near. I do encourage everyone else to seek medical advice rather than trying something silly like this.
 catabrie
Joined: 6/15/2007
Msg: 40
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Posted: 3/27/2008 9:47:44 AM
As I've read through this thread I've cringed, laughed, applauded & shook my head in disbelief. All the disdain I see moves me to throw in my two cents.

There are too many things about the human body that no one - the medical profession included - understands. IMO, a medical doctor does nothing more than make an educated guess as to what might ail a person & save/fail people everyday with their guesses - I almost said the word kill because misdiagnoses are an every day event for them - the human body is far more tricky than those rascally, mutant virii ever dreamt of being.

The scientific method was brought up as if it is & has been the only means that cures or otherwise beneficial to humans has been discovered... Might I point out that the simple act of washing hands between treating patients proved to be a catalyst in saving more lives than can be counted but was discovered by serendipity, as was penicillen & a vast amount of other effectual treatments for the human body.

I owe my life to the medical community as well as a year + of agony & near death - a doctor treated me for a simple flu which turned out to be rhuematic fever - if you do not know of this virus then educate yourself - it might save your life some day because in my experience, doctors seem to know little of it & it must be treated with a particular antibiotic. The rhuematic fever itself was not lifethreatening but the resulting effects on my heart was & 8 years after said flu, I was treated for better than a year by a licensed doctor who watched me fall into the clutches of cardiac arrest yet was still at a loss as to what was wrong - despite my telling him of my chest pains & other symptoms. My ailment was discovered by trial & error - after all a 29 year old woman shouldn't have a heart condition don't you know. It was found by ruling out other possibilities, ergo educated guesses but once pinpointed corrected with significant ease.

In my experience, the mind & determination can do miraculous things to/for the body & I still practice those little things my mother/grandmother taught me regarding home remedies - so many do work without the benefit of the scientific method - if it works for you then more power, etc.

And btw, I give my trust to those in the medical profession after they earn it, not because they might have a nicely framed certificate on their wall. People acheive the "peter principal" everyday in the field of medicine, as in all walks of life.

cata
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/27/2008 12:22:43 PM
cata;
I read you post; -- And yes, it does work for me, and anybody else that will do it my way;-- How - I don't know;--
Doctors do know quite a lot;-- But, I have aspartame poisoning;-- FACT;--I seen 22 doctors in a 3 year period,-- The 18th doctor - KNEW - what aspatame was;-- The 18th;-- I've seen a doctor for 22 years, he's given me a phyiscal every year since 1986;
He DIDN'T know what it was then- in 2002, And he still don't know what it is;-- He' a BIG TIME neurologist in Okla. City; -I have a friend, in very bad shape, -told me he had a appointment with him; --I told him, --HE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING;-- He kept that appointment. -- Afterwords, he told me I was correct;-- He diagnosed him with Lou Garries ailment;--- He told me , he seen another specialist, Who said IF he was right, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD 8 YEARS AGO; -- That is just one example of the KNOWLEDGE of so-called doctors that I've met;-- My experaince with doctors, -- ------------have alot to be desired;---
 catabrie
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Msg: 42
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Posted: 3/27/2008 6:15:21 PM
Jacel, please understand that I do not discount doctors for what they do, as I stated before, I owe my life to one, a very skillful heart surgeon. The great majority of doctors do one hell of a job making those correct guesses, as well as some who are not so good at it. My point was that the human body is a miraculous system that none of us fully understand , not even doctors or other medical professionals, & that not all effective medical practices are founded on that clinical scientific method.

Home remedies have a place & posters here should not ridicule you for what works for you but by the same token, you should not try to put yourself in a place where you do the same in return. If your remedy works for you, then by all means keep doing it but, sir, the best remedy I have discovered for either the flu or cold is a glass of water with lemon juice, cayenne pepper & black strap molasses along with zycam nasal swabs - the drink detoxifies my body (helps greatly with aches/pains) while the zycam enables me to breathe - this is my own self treatment & works for me but I certainly wouldn't espouse it as a great cure-all... I believe in NO cure-alls for anything - which smacks of the "snake oil" peddler.

As for aspertame poisoning, I know nothing of it. I do not intake it in any form of which I am aware as I do not eat or drink anything of a "diet" nature.

cata
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/28/2008 4:41:52 AM
cata;
Got your post; - You are right;- There ARE doctors out there that KNOW just what they are doing; - I will be the first to discount a doctor IF he doesn't know what he is doing; --- I just have NOT been able to find one that KNOWS what he is doing.
-- And the body IS a work of art; --
The home remedy I posted, is for those that want to get over the sickness they have; -- I've used it for just feeling bad; -- It has WORKED every time I've done it-- bar one .-- I just didn't drink enough water; -- And that is the one thing in this process that has to be there;-- It will work on ANYBODY that does it right;--
As for aspartame, it is in something like 7000 to 9000 products now; It is hard NOT to eat it;-- Wish you luck in anything you try;---Jacel---
 MrGuyCaballero
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Msg: 44
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Posted: 3/28/2008 8:20:57 PM
Just to clarify, I know that not all cures were arrived at using the scientific method. But it still stands that if you want to find out if what you believe is working is really the thing at play, the best way to do that is using the scientific method. The problem with ignoring that and saying "don't dismiss home remedy 1 or home remedy 2 until you've tried it" is that there are thousands (well, probably millions) of them out there. So, out of all the choices, which treatment should you go with? The one with the best evidence. That treatment right now is to get rest in a clean comfortable environment and eat and drink as well as you can.

To the thread starter: I'm not trying to get you to stop doing this. And anyone else who gets a cold, if you want to try it, by all means, I'm fine with that. However, if you get a high fever, as others have said, doing things that will boost your already high body temperature seems like a bad idea. If your temperature goes too high, things can get really bad for you: over 105 and you have increased risk of bacterial infection, over 108 and the fever will do damage itself.
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/29/2008 4:19:50 AM
It WORKS,---- And it doesn't take 7 weeks;---A friend of mine TRIED for 7 weeks -- USING DOCTORS; --- TOO stubern to do this; --- Findly, I told him,- you tried it your way for 7 weeks, -- USING DOCTORS-- and your way --didn't work;-- -Try it MY WAY-- just once;--- IF it don't work--- I'll appologize in public;---IT WORKED for him---JUST LIKE I SAID;---
 catabrie
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Msg: 46
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Posted: 3/29/2008 8:33:30 AM
I agree with you MrGuy - my post was not intended as an attack on your words. I was only trying to point out that science is not an end all to what works & we each react to things (medically) in different ways... & this is not to say that I think Jacel's cure is a good one, but it is his. In my second post, you will see that I view any type of "cure all" for anything just "snake oil" peddling. And my home remedies are just that, MY home remedies - no cure alls.

I certainly do not long for the days of early medicine but lets face it - its all about the $ & pharmeceutical companies are the engines running the medical field & there is no money in home remedies for them although there are many which have been scientifically proven to be effective. As certain as that there is no cure for the common cold & flu virii will continue to mutate to live - its all about the $.

On a sidenote to those who load up on antibiotics on a regular basis - you can develop an allergy to those as well as teach virii how to overcome their healing effects.

Peace to all & here's to staying healthy.

cata
 jacel0
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Posted: 3/29/2008 9:59:26 AM
catabrie;
You are a very opened minded woman; -- Just wish more people were like you; --
I agree with you, as there are so many ways to get right with mother nature; -- Health in fact.-- I was reading a forum sight dealing with dry skin.-- I've had dry skin for 50 some-odd years; -- To the point that I COUDN'T put as nut on a clean bolt or button my shirt; -- I read about one woman that used extra virgin olive oil to correct her dry skin;
--Said to myself-- you don't have anything to lose; -- I bought some olive oil. -- In one week,-- My hands were as smooth as a babies bottem; -- And the pain went away;--- So there are home remedies that work; --jacel--
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