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 NewYorker58
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This is pathetic, immature and childish, that you're bringing politics into this. Who did he grab?

If you want to make a stance, this is about the abusive nature of so many men. That should be your point. Predators within your sex, and thank you for bringing it up. On Seinfeld, Keith Hernandez struggled to make a move to kiss Elaine. You hear him saying to himself, you can do anything you want, you're Keith Hernandez. Thank you for bringing up how so many men are predators!
 Tech30
Joined: 8/11/2017
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Posted: 7/17/2018 2:51:04 PM
Tech. Holy fvck, you think where a person is determines if it's okay to grab their ass? You would be wrong. Is it okay for me to punch them in the face after that?

Assault is the same, whether it's a man or a woman doing it.

Calm your self , I know feminism has taught you to be mad and react with your first hateful instinct all the time, but what im saying is that if you're in a club you're far more likely to have someone , man or woman grope you. Again, some people dont mind. Men and women flirt by looks, touches and so on. If you touch someone and they tell you not to and you stop, its all good.

If you dont stop then its wrong.

but how are people supposed to flirt is everyone is too scared look at, talk to or touch each other ?

Punching someone in the face for that is an extreme reaction , one that you can choose to do, but dont be shocked when the person punches you right back. Remember , its about equality these days right?
 Tech30
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Posted: 7/17/2018 2:54:20 PM
If you want to make a stance, this is about the abusive nature of so many men. That should be your point. Predators within your sex, and thank you for bringing it up. On Seinfeld, Keith Hernandez struggled to make a move to kiss Elaine. You hear him saying to himself, you can do anything you want, you're Keith Hernandez. Thank you for bringing up how so many men are predators!

How many men? The majority of men arent abusive. Also many women dont consider advances to be sexual abuse. Its a smaller group of uptight stick in the bum feminists who think a man commenting on her looks is abuse.

There are lots of female predators as well , which feminists like to pretend doesnt exist. Most teachers who have relations with under age students are female.

Most parents who abuse their kids physically are female.

Crazy people like yourself try to paint all men as abusive and all women as oppressed victims.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 7/17/2018 3:12:39 PM
What does feminism have to do with being assaulted in a club or elsewhere? I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not subjected to any person or any literature about feminism, but feel free to blame feminism because women don't want to be assaulted. That doesn't make sense. You've lost your mind if you think being in a club makes assaulting a woman okay.

Touching a woman on her butt is assault. A punch or slap in the face should be accepted after you assault a woman. You'd lose in court if you touched a woman that way, she protected herself, and the guy assaults her again by hitting her? Can you say jail and monetary damages?

I'm certainly not saying all men are abusive and I certainly know women can be abusive, but which sex gets raped every few seconds, every day? As a man, you should want to be projective of women, being we're smaller in stature and typically weaker muscularly. You're not a very nice man. It's these statements from men that show why they're single. Eventually, most of the men here revel their true selves and we see why they can't form relationships.
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 389
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Posted: 7/17/2018 3:36:29 PM

Many times we'll mildly appreciate it, even if it's a gal who isn't that great looking -- and most single men Will Like it if it's a gal they see is very attractive. Part of the reason is: We're the "hunters" in the dating field, and have to face getting shot down much of the time as "our duty".


Nope, I don't like it, and I treat them all the same. I have nicely explained to every woman who has tugged my hair from behind why it's not a good idea. It puts me in a position where I have no idea if it's just a woman being flirtatious or a man trying to attack me.


I met her at a birthday party. She said she wanted to learn guitar and when she called me she said she has no money and wants me to volunteer my time.


Wow. I've never had a woman present it to me quite *that* way, but the way I see it, her saying this was rather insulting and showed she didn't perceive you as a professional. She opened herself to any response you could muster up, as far as I'm concerned.

However, just to see where she's truly coming from, I would jokingly say to her something like "well, this IS my job, you know? You said you don't have money, but can you do yard work??" If she responds negatively to it, she was looking for a freebie. **** that.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 7/17/2018 4:17:39 PM
It could have been her coy way of trying to get with him, no? It is a possibility. Who asks for free guitar lessons? I would potentially do one if he was interested in her. If she really did turn out to want free lessons, I'd say I just got busy or I'm busy looking to date right now, just broke up with someone, so no free time.

This scenario reminds me of Seinfeld where the woman asks George up for coffee, and he tells her he doesn't drink coffee.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 7/18/2018 5:48:20 AM

so if he looks good u wud become his play thing? what if he slapped ur ass? what if he had a wife or girlfriend?" He cud be a good looking serial killer, but u wud not know,!! good looks don't mean a good person"

Well obviously its not really a good idea to just grope strangers and it is essentially assault but I would of allowed a pass if it is just one off and if I show disinterest they leave me alone.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 392
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Posted: 7/18/2018 7:20:36 AM
There are humans who take advantage of their status over others. Terry Crews was assaulted by a man trying to prove his power over him, but most cases, women are the targets. The sad part is when the accused is, say, Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner or Roy Moore or Trump and you find out that, despite the accusations, they get a large block of women to support them, including probably women who would go after Joe Schmo if he copped a feel. Abuse is abuse is abuse. If we support certain married cheaters accused of abuse, what message does that send to any low-level non-celebrity abuser? That he just needs name-recognition and he's free?

"I met her at a birthday party. She said she wanted to learn guitar and when she called me she said she has no money and wants me to volunteer my time.
Wow. I've never had a woman present it to me quite *that* way, but the way I see it, her saying this was rather insulting and showed she didn't perceive you as a professional."

>>>and this is another form of abuse, tho obviously on a different level. I know artists who offer to paint/draw things for friends, and the "Friends" try to get out of painting, thinking its just a hobby, not a profession, etc. If you're not famous, you're not treated professionally by certain people. One should offer to pay or trade something of equal value, and if their friend says its a gift, then that's fine. There are people trying to break into a professional field by word of mouth from their social contacts. But if you aren't a "real business" with an address on Main Street, they don't have the business acumen to realize, you're still a business.

maybe some of these people are just ignorant of what a real business looks like b/c they are not entrepreneurial, but other times...they're just fishing for freebees in life.
 whiterose0
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Posted: 7/20/2018 10:43:35 AM
Some man groped a waitress's butt in a restaurant, and she slugged him. It was videotaped and made the national news:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/georgia-waitress-who-took-down-handsy-customer-i-didnt-even-know-i-could-do-that/ar-AAAk5y0?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=U452DHP
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 7/20/2018 10:56:50 AM
^^^ I was trying to find that the other day for Tech to see.


If you have a difficult time playing the video, try this link, click on the arrow: http://www.fox46charlotte.com/news/mobile/georgia-waitress-takes-down-man-who-appears-to-grope-her-epic-video-shows#/
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/20/2018 11:48:30 AM

What does feminism have to do with being assaulted in a club or elsewhere?

A lot. Feminism isn't defined as being super left-wing. Doesn't require going overboard on #metoo or anything.
Feminism is just about standing up for women's rights and being treated fairly. It's pretty generic.

Touching a woman on her butt is assault. A punch or slap in the face should be accepted after you assault a woman. You'd lose in court if you touched a woman that way

No lie: Last night I went to a bar late at night with a friend of mine. Walking in, there's two gals at the end of it. I look over, checking them out, and one waves and calls me over. She says "Remember me?" And I'm like, "You look familiar, but..." She said I blatantly grabbed her ass in this same bar several months ago. I apologized. She confirmed that I drank too much, but said she had a great time with me. She then complained that she gave me her # and I never called! I still apologized (about the grab). My friend said it was St Patricks Day, and that made things make more sense. And I'm assuming I did that After talking/flirting with her some, but I wasn't asking for the play-by-play.

Nope, I don't like it, and I treat them all the same. I have nicely explained to every woman who has tugged my hair from behind why it's not a good idea. It puts me in a position where I have no idea if it's just a woman being flirtatious or a man trying to attack me.

I can totally understand the hair pull. I had long hair at the end of the 90s. It quickly got on my WTF nerves when gals would do that. But unless a gal's grabbing my ass with force and/or a finger running up the crack -- I certainly won't take it the same way, it being just a nice grab & a smile. That expresses attraction+I-like-you, where pulling my hair could hint attraction, but pretty much "Oooh, long hair!"
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 7/20/2018 12:10:34 PM
People drink and make mistakes. You owned up and apologized.

A story from several years ago, a young girl in my meet up group was scared to move away from a guy sitting next to her in the casino we were in where he was touching her. I can't recall the whole thing now, but when another girl told me what was going on, I told the guy to stop touching her. He said he wasn't doing anything. Bad answer. I told security and they threw him out. Not knowing the girl, before I approached him, I watched him and saw what he was doing. Women can be very vulnerable. Some don't know how to deal with aggressive and abusive men. Men should feel protective of women. That's what a good man does.
 Manofsubstance1970
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Posted: 7/21/2018 11:25:03 AM
"A cheapskate, would be a woman, who never offers to pay her own bill on a date or treat a man, a woman who goes on about men, who treat her for a meal being tight, because they did not tip the waiter enough or spend enough on the meal, don't let a woman call you a cheap skate or roll her eyes at you, if you are treating her to a meal, because it's a manipulative tactic n she should be grateful that you opened, your wallet in the first place to treat her to a meal, watch out for the penny pinching women, who go on about money all the time n wanting to be treated to expensive meals, don't fall for it, because they are using you n the chances are they have done the same thing to many other guys"
 lulz567
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Posted: 7/21/2018 4:55:58 PM
^^^Guys do that too in dating . They use women for favours like can you drive me here or there. Treat me to a meal “I’m poor” and On the list goes. That is a cheapskate and they also date various women for free meals. Women need to weed out those when dating because they are on the rise. I even know guys that have shacked up with women on welfare with kids they need to support and will take the food out of the child’s mouth by being a hobo unemployed, wreck.Such
A turn on. They usually groom with, Ive left my wallet at home, or I’m on a project and going to be making money soon just so they can exploit them financially.Its even on the rise with the ones with money as in really well off.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 7/21/2018 6:22:51 PM
If men use common sense, they'd have less to complain about. Same goes for women. Who are these meal hungry women anyway? Do they find them in homeless camps? They could probably use a meal. I'd give my doggie bag to homeless people if I ran into any after leaving a restaurant. It's always been to a man. I give them food without requiring sex from them like some men require from women. What a concept, generosity. No strings attached.
 BLONDE_ANGEL_1
Joined: 4/27/2018
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Posted: 7/21/2018 9:24:01 PM

What a concept, generosity. No strings attached.


That is bec. you are not one of the WALKING WANTING HEAD!
 LBJfan600
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Posted: 8/26/2018 8:35:43 PM
nothing wrong with being cheap considering many women having the expectation to be paid for, that can add up over time. there are a few who will pay for themselves but there are none who would ever offer to pay for the man
On dating a cheapskate.
Posted: 8/27/2018 7:48:29 AM
Please forgive me for saying this, it seems that you have some self-esteem issues if you feel that you need to buy friends or a love interest.

Yes, you can praise and adore someone without buying their affection. If you can't maintain it over a 10 or 20 year period then don't start doing it because it is entrapment.
There are lots of women on this site that will take advantage of you then throw you away once your money is gone. I've had several ladies come out and tell me, Leo, if you want to date me you'll have to fly me to Europe or Paris, that's the only way you will get my attention.

You deserve better. You need a better plan to be deliriously happy
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:31:50 AM
^^^^oh, come on now, with saying women ask to be flown to Europe in order to date you, unless it means you are so horrific, that's the only way they'll do it.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:00:11 AM
Maybe you are just asking the wrong women out.
 cooldog65
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:18:01 AM

I've had several ladies come out and tell me, Leo, if you want to date me you'll have to fly me to Europe or Paris, that's the only way you will get my attention.


I'd tell them to fück off. Why take sand to the beach?
 Coma_White
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Posted: 8/27/2018 11:31:34 AM

There are lots of women on this site that will take advantage of you then throw you away once your money is gone. I've had several ladies come out and tell me, Leo, if you want to date me you'll have to fly me to Europe or Paris, that's the only way you will get my attention.


Oh my God. Just block and delete idiots like that. I've had women from other countries pay their own way to visit me and date. I would of course pay my own way if it was my turn to visit them, but there's no way I'm going to be some chump that opens his wallet to get a woman's attention. I don't want attention from those losers. Anyone that uses people for money, sex, transportation, etc is a terrible person. If you want a one night stand, be honest about it so both people are on the same page. If you want to see the world, plan a trip together, pay your own way, but only go with someone if you're sincere about getting to know them as a person.
 __TEXASCHICK__
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Posted: 10/29/2018 5:43:44 PM
^^ NY, he did lot more than just touch her but. That was her "privates".
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:22:08 PM

Who are these meal hungry women anyway? Do they find them in homeless camps?

You can, but you can also find this degree of food-hungry folks on good 'ol POF, and any other dating site. :)

Leo, if you want to date me you'll have to fly me to Europe or Paris, that's the only way you will get my attention.

That's truly buy-your-way-into-dating, which is quite uncommon for it to be outright like that. Sometimes it can be on a lower-scale, like taking a gal out to fancy places, paying for her slop & tickets to shows. That's when they lack interest but wouldn't mind going out -- and they guy's trying to win them over.

More commonly he's not paying for her interest, he's paying to Keep or to add weight to her interest, by paying for the food she chokes down, the tickets to the movies/comedy-shows/concerts he gets for her, etc.

Paying to Keep/Sustain her interest is the reason why this Game continues. It started because women historically really had no money anyway, so he had to. We keep it going out of "tradition" and cultural habit. Since it is such a habit, many of us, including myself, don't really see it for what it Actually is -- yes, you're paying to keep/sustain/elevate her interest. Granted, it's no trips to Europe, but that sh!t adds up pretty quick, that's taken for granted by women in general, and by some men to some degree.
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Posted: 11/10/2018 9:15:46 AM
NG, you’re leaving out one very important thing.

There is a reason that prostitution is the oldest profession. And that is because men have a higher sex drive than women, they are the ones driven by their hormones to pursue the opposite sex. As long as this is true (and I don’t see it changing anytime soon), then men will be the ones doing the pursuing and the paying for dates. Because dating is about sex, and anyone who claims differently is either grossly mistaken or lying to themselves and to you.

Before anyone breaks out the flamethrowers, yes, I am aware that there are exceptions to the above. But I’m not talking about the rare exception, I’m talking about the great majority of people in this world.
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