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 The Artful Codger
Joined: 2/29/2008
Msg: 14
The Ten SuggestionsPage 2 of 2    (1, 2)
Maybe at a School of Theology.
Maybe if you put up tenets of ALL religions.
Maybe in a private Christian school.

Or, in the case of public schools, maybe these ones:

1.  Thou shalt have no other classes before me.
2.  Thou shalt not make any gangsta images on thy text books.
3.  Thou shalt not take the name of thy teacher in vain.
4.  Remember the recess, to keep it holy.
5.  Honour thy principal and thy guidance counselor.
6.  Thou shalt not bring guns to school, nor smoke in the boy's room.
7.  Thou shalt not commit spitballery.
8.  Thou shalt not let thy dog eat thy homework.
9.  Thou shalt not copy thy classmate's test answers.
10.  Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's book bag.
 Lucky_Vet
Joined: 3/27/2005
Msg: 15
The Ten Suggestions
Posted: 4/2/2008 8:06:37 PM
lol, keep that nonsense out of schools.
 susan_cd
Joined: 5/16/2007
Msg: 16
Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/24/2010 11:47:02 AM

Should Ten Commandments be in every class room?


No, not even if you mean the ACTUAL 10 Commandments and aren't referring to what most people mistakenly think are the 10 Commandments.

Confused by that statement? Then dig out your Bible, turn to Exodus & follow along:


THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WE ALWAYS SEE AREN'T THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS

First Amendment battles continue to rage across the US over the posting of the Ten
Command-ments in public places — courthouses, schools, parks, and pretty much anywhere else you can imagine. Christians argue that they're a part of our Western heritage that should be displayed as ubiquitously as traffic signs. Congressman Bob Barr hilariously suggested that the Columbine massacre wouldn't have happened if the Ten Commandments (also called the Decalogue) had been posted in the high school, and some government officials have directly, purposely disobeyed court rulings against the display of these ten directives supposedly handed down from on high.
Too bad they're all talking about the wrong rules.

Every Decalogue you see — from the 5,000-pound granite behemoth inside the Alabama State Judicial Building to the little wallet-cards sold at Christian bookstores — is bogus. Simply reading the Bible will prove this. Getting out your King James version, turn to Exodus 20:2-17. You'll see the familiar list of rules about having no other gods, honoring your parents, not killing or coveting, and so on. At this point, though, Moses is just repeating to the people what God told him on Mount Si'nai. These are not written down in any form.

Later, Moses goes back to the Mount, where God gives him two "tables of stone" with rules written on them (Exodus 31:18). But when Moses comes down the mountain lugging his load, he sees the people worshipping a statue of a calf, causing him to throw a tantrum and smash the tablets on the ground (Exodus 32:19).

In neither of these cases does the Bible refer to "commandments."

In the first instance, they are "words" which "God spake," while the tablets contain "testimony." It is only when Moses goes back for new tablets that we see the phrase "ten commandments" (Exodus 34:28).

In an interesting turn of events, the commandments on these tablets are significantly different than the ten rules Moses recited for the people, meaning that either Moses' memory is faulty or God changed his mind.

Thus, without further ado, we present to you the real "Ten Commandments" as handed down by the LORD unto Moses (and plainly listed in Exodus 34:13-28). We eagerly await all the new Decalogues, which will undoubtedly contain this correct version:

I. Thou shalt worship no other god.
II. Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
III.. The feast of unleavened bread thou shalt keep
IV. Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest.
V. Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
VI. Thrice In the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God.
VII. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven.
VIII. Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
IX. The first of the first fruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God.
X. Thou shalt not seethe a kid [ie, a young goat] in his mother's milk.


Item # 1 from the book "50 Things You're Not Supposed toKnow" by Russ Kick

Hope this is helpful.
 unclecharles
Joined: 3/14/2010
Msg: 17
Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/24/2010 12:16:08 PM
No they should not be in every classroom....like it was said earlier they belong in the church and its about time that these hyocritical , hijacking christianity from the 'real christian, right wingers need to be called out on their bullisht too....they have done some of the most terrorist crimes all wrapped up in flag and carrying a bible.....
Designing Woman said it best though
 cupani67
Joined: 12/29/2009
Msg: 18
Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/24/2010 4:13:19 PM

Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
No.

Why would we need anything like that in a class room, unless of course the topic is "Bible Study" in a parochial school.
 susan_cd
Joined: 5/16/2007
Msg: 19
Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/31/2010 5:40:13 PM

Would you feel the same about tenets from the Quran being posted in every classroom instead of the Ten Commandments?

If not, then your "point" about the need for public discussion and thought seems to be a smoke screen.


And I'm sure they could find some Buddhist tenets & Hindu teachings to put up in classrooms too.

Wouldn't hurt to have Wiccan beliefs displayed as well.
 themadfiddler
Joined: 12/9/2009
Msg: 20
Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/31/2010 9:34:17 PM
And similarly some list of the rules of secular humanism would not be out of place...



The Affirmations of Humanism: A Statement of Principles and Values

We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.

We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for salvation.

We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.

We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.

We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.

We cultivate the arts of negotiation and compromise as a means of resolving differences and achieving mutual understanding.

We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.

We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped, so that they will be able to help themselves.

We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race, religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity.

We want to protect and enhance the earth, to preserve it for future generations, and to avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.

We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.

We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.

We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.

We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, and responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. There are normative standards that we discover together. Moral principles are tested by their consequences.

We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.

We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.

We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.

We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas and seek new departures in our thinking.

We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service of others.

We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance, joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.

We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.


http://www.flamewarrior.com/affirm.htm
 Montreal_Guy
Joined: 3/8/2004
Msg: 21
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Should Ten Commandments be in every class room? Yes?
Posted: 3/31/2010 10:20:44 PM

Would you feel the same about tenets from the Quran being posted in every classroom instead of the Ten Commandments?


This is exactly the heart of the matter in the discussion

. If it was occuring in an Iranian school, forced by law, then you could probably bet the bank that some American/Israeli media outlet would be using this as an illustration of how "backward" that nation state was.

Kettle, meet pot.
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