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 justjazz
Joined: 9/8/2005
Msg: 78
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child MolestorsPage 4 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)
I just hope and pray that I will never ever have to deal with this with my children. That day someone goes to prison. I hope it is the flotsam of life that hurt my child.
 RUMYCALIQUEEN
Joined: 9/15/2005
Msg: 79
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 1/5/2006 11:47:56 PM
The solution to this problem would be like they do it in other countries......it is cut off!!!
 Hill_Valley_Hick
Joined: 8/31/2005
Msg: 80
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Posted: 1/6/2006 3:21:00 PM
if you support those treatments of sex offenders why do you oppose vigilante justice. I tend to agree though pedophiles can't be rehabilitated. We should just kill them or lock them up forever.
 sparticuss
Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 81
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Posted: 7/11/2006 12:36:05 AM
Hey brianless!

I have news for you. It's your children who will be charged with child molesting in the future.

And don't get self righteous with me over the issue either. The following are ALL cases where charges of child molesting have been pressed.

1/ A fifteen year old girl and a 20 year old boy. Known one another since she was five.
They were childhood sweethearts and had been chums ever since. They were caught smooching on the couch. Charges were pressed even though the doctors report confirmed that the girl was still a virgin.

2/ A teenage girl, on the local tennis court, climbed a fence to retirieve a lost ball from the ajoining house. Through an open window she observed the man who lived there, in the privacy of his own bedroom, masturbating. The window faced the back garden and only somebody tresspassing could have observed him.

3/ A teen boy, broke into a house and stole several items, including a few bits of soft porn. When he was caught with the stuff the home owner was charged even though her had never seen the boy let alone touched him.


You twits see to assume that child moestors are all predators. They arent. I havent yet heard of a cop being charged with child moesting when changing an abandoned babys diaper but it can happen.

And I know that ambulance officers always make a point of warning a woman, (right in the middle of a heart attack fer crissake) that they need to undo her bra to use the electric paddles etc. Crikey she's dying and they still have to go stupid over political correctness.!

When sexual hang ups become more important than life itself then our phobias have gone way too far.
 sparticuss
Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 82
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/11/2006 12:38:30 AM
goodday... is "saltpeter" some sort of ointment or pill that causes erectile disfunction? i know they've tried castration and that does not work.
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Of course it doesn't work fool!

Did you think that rape was somehow sexual.

A rape, (im talking about the real thing now, not when consentual sex occurs but the girls doens't like it cause hes a lousy lover. Or somebody just watching the passing parade) A real rape is a violent act. You don't need an erection to rape somebody. I dildo or vibrator will do fine.
 sparticuss
Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 83
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/11/2006 12:44:11 AM
Just a few definitons of rape that have been bandied about ove the years. Including in the highest halls of power.

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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice. Rape, originally defined as abduction, became marriage by capture. Marriage meant the taking was to extend in time, to be not only use of but possession of, or ownership."
— Andrea Dworkin

"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies."
— Andrea Dworkin

"Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks."
— Andrea Dworkin
in the Philadelphia Inquirer,
May 21, 1995

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Allegations by a 20-year-old woman that she had been pack-raped by six members of the Canterbury Bulldogs rugby league team at a hotel in the northern NSW resort town of Coff's Harbour on the morning of 22 February 2004 following a night of celebrations by the team sent the media into a wild feeding frenzy for the next three months.
The rugby players' guilt was automatically assumed. Head of a special police task force, Detective Chief Inspector Jason Breton had no doubt of the players guilt when he announced to the media that the woman was a victim of a "very vicious assault". A confidential police interview describing the allegations in graphic detail was leaked to the media. All of the focus was on the accused. Nobody questioned the veracity of the complainant.

Weeks of unsavoury media beat-up followed, severely damaging the standing of not only the team in question but all rugby players. Then it washed over into AFL with two St Kilda members being charged (by the media) with rape.

Finally, on April 28, Chief Inspector Breton reluctantly announced to the panting media that there was not enough evidence to proceed and the charges had been dropped. Breton however, made it clear he thought the accused were guilty although he gave no reasons why.

Some of the facts that have slowly come to light are:

In a signed police statement, the complainant admitted to engaging in consensual group sex with a number of the players on the night of February 18, just three nights before the alleged rape.

She also admitted having consensual sex with one player on the night of the alleged attack.

An independent witness sees the woman frolicking with a player in the hotel pool about 6.30am.

Shortly after, another independent witness sees a player sitting on the edge of the pool and the woman standing in the pool, giving him a head job.

The woman tries to enter the room of other players about 8am but is turned away.

Shortly after she cries rape. The police arrive about 9am.

A few days later a woman rang the Bulldogs club suggesting that all allegations would be withdrawn if $25,000 was paid.

Part of the complainants story was undermined by her friend, Kylie Hubbard.

The police admit that DNA evidence was inconclusive.
It is possible the players committed the offence. If that was the case the massive police resources thrown into the investigation should have produced charges. In any event the players are entitled to the presumption of evidence until charged and found guilty.

The allegations cost the club an estimated $1.3 million in sponsorship deals, and cost the jobs of chief executive Steve Mortimer, former chief Peter Mortimer and football Manager Garry Hughes.

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In 1985 the Western Australian parliament dramatically amended the law relating to rape, first by changing the term rape to sexual assault and then greatly widening the definition of what could be classed as sexual assault. Many acts not previously constituting rape were included in the new Act and the criteria for sexual assault was any type of penetration where consent was not present and ongoing. It did not matter that force or threats were not used. The penalty for any type of sexual assault was increased to fifteen years imprisonment.

Where any type of force was used, the charge was aggravated sexual assault, carrying a penalty of twenty years imprisonment.

The draconian Act soon snared its first victim. Perth resident Kevin Ibbs was having consensual sex with Christine Watson on the night of 29 November 1986. Watson, a close friend of Ibbs's wife, Katrina Carter, was living in the same house with Ibbs and Carter. The sex act was taking place with the full knowledge of Carter who was in the house at the time.

As Ibbs was nearing ejaculation, Watson suddenly withdrew her consent to sex (so she later claimed) and tried to push Ibbs away. He continued for a short time. Too late, he was trapped. He was charged with sexual assault and found guilty under the new law. The judge found that Ibbs had continued sexual intercourse for about thirty seconds without consent (for which he was later dubbed the 30-second rapist). The judge sentenced him to four years imprisonment.

Some years later Watson admitted to police that the whole incident was a set-up orchestrated by Carter to have Ibbs charged with sexual assault to get him out of the house they were sharing.

Christine Elizabeth Watson a.k.a. Christine Elizabeth Wardle and Katrina Ann Carter were subsequently convicted of conspiring to pervert the course of justice. They served seven months in jail.

Mr Ibbs was acquitted in 2001 but the damage was done. He says that his health has been affected, his career as a tradesman has been ruined and the whole affair has cost him over one million dollars.
 marita_b
Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 84
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Posted: 7/11/2006 8:25:32 AM
isn't it interesting and sad that the crimes commited in families,..by family members, towards family members,... which can at times be more traumatic even than stranger on stranger violence,....

One assumes your family is your sanctuarry,...from the cruel cold world,...
sadly the reality is,...often it isn't,...but to then have no safety or validation by the law and the court system,...seems to add insult to injury,...
 marita_b
Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 85
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Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/11/2006 11:09:11 AM
what if you later found out ,....you were wrong?

The law is a lot of things,...but the one thing it's not,...is infallible!!
 sparticuss
Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 86
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/11/2006 6:27:06 PM
Which paticular type of child molestor are we talking about here.??

And don't anybody get self righteous till you finish reading this.

A child molestor is the predator, who abuses a position of trust, to rape a five year old.

However YOUR 20 year old son is also a child molestor. Yes he is.
When he gets drunk, and flakes out, alone, in his own bed, and a fifteen year old girl, with a crush on him, breaks in, and gives him a blow job, without him even waking up, that child molesting.

And its not just brushed aside by the courts. This young man is treated just as savagely as the predator.

Ladies! You are the worst offendors here.
Don't get self righteous until AFTER the day that your boyfreind, your husband, your son, is dragged into court with no evidence but shrieking mass hysteria being used to convict him.
 sparticuss
Joined: 5/9/2006
Msg: 87
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/11/2006 6:29:31 PM
In cases involving children, DNA will prevail. Obvoiusly if someones sperm is inside or on a child, DNA will prove guilt
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Get real fool!

Where theres men there's sperm. Fact of life!

A mans used a towel to clean up after masturbating. Two hours later a child uses the same towel to dry off after swimming. The sperm is transferred.

Use your head.
 marita_b
Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 88
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Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/12/2006 4:00:00 AM
How about a situation,..(much more likely and actually not as rare as you might hope),....

Mom and dad,...while getting divorced,...and fighting each other for sole custody,.....
has mom charging dad???? if dad can't proove he didn't do it,..but he's convicted anyway,...

He too is added to the child offender list,,.....

Some years back there were cases cropping up all over,...like the case of the McMartin Day care,....the children were manipulated into testifying,...they were believed,...years later, we now "KNOW" this was anything but true,..the women charged have been released upon evidence to suggest there WAS no wrong doing,....the man however is currently still in jail,...today.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/mcmartin_daycare/1.html

having said that,..... sperm inside a victim,...(I call that pretty conclusive too),....
However I think if a person like this is jailed,..until he stopps breathing,...then there is time to appeal and time to get the proof needed to release the ofender,....

If an offender later prooves his innocents,...
a heartfelt I'm sorry will be needed,...not reconstructive surgery,......
 GhostDancer
Joined: 6/24/2006
Msg: 89
Re: What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/12/2006 11:26:59 AM
Whatever they're most afraid of in life should be discovered and they should be made to live through that torment every day, repeatedly. If they're sent to jail it should be for life--REAL life. None of this "get time off for good behaviour" garbage, but meaning till they draw their last monster-like breaths in this world. If they're in prison they should be put in with the general population and have word spread throughout about their crimes and let inmate justice prevail. Ideally, I would like to see all child molesters die slow and painful deaths; let their last moments on this planet be as hellish as they made their victim's lives. Rapists, too. Sexual predators CANNOT be rehabilitated. They can't. They never lose the urges they have to victimize, so they should be taken out of society for good.
 marita_b
Joined: 6/15/2005
Msg: 91
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Posted: 7/17/2006 2:29:44 AM
if that's what most people feel about molesting children,...

then how about the simple neglect of care and feeding,...

a couple was recently arrested,...their 3 addopted children taken away the youngest of which was a 5 year old who weighed less than 20 pounds,....

this kind of cruelty and indifference only comes about on a day to day neglect,...over a long time,....how should they be punished??????

I know what I think but what about you all and what is worse???,...
 Melodic Euphoria
Joined: 3/22/2005
Msg: 92
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 7/18/2006 5:40:05 AM
Castration. This punishment fits the crime well, without resorting to the death penalty.
 gerrymac
Joined: 4/28/2005
Msg: 93
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Posted: 2/5/2007 6:02:25 PM
^^^^ I seem to recall the movie "Escape from New York" kinda addressed that issue. Um, and so did Jet Li's "The One" in a different futuristic way. The concept of having "islands" of convicts is a common theme both in fiction and in real life (Australia comes to mind, as does French Guyana where prisoners were sent in the early 20th century from France)
 designingwoman
Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 95
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Posted: 2/7/2007 7:26:06 PM
Jail for the rest of their sorry lives. Lock 'em up and throw away the key!!

(No death penalty--what if the person is later proven innocent--with jail at least they can be set free, with the death penalty you cannot give a person's life back.) That's what JAILS are for, to lock 'em up and keep 'em away from society. I think that once someone is convicted of rape or child molestation, that person should be put away for LIFE, and I mean LIFE. Pervs like that should not be out on the street.

In fact, why not just fine a pothead with a joint, and let him go so that REAL criminals like rapists can be put away forever?????!!!!!!
 designingwoman
Joined: 9/4/2005
Msg: 97
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Posted: 2/13/2007 6:38:27 PM
Yes, plentyofrick, the gen population would take care of such insufferable criminals. Jeffrey Dahmer was one.
 Paulie67
Joined: 3/8/2006
Msg: 98
What Is An Appropriate Punishment For Rapists And Child Molestors
Posted: 2/13/2007 10:03:15 PM
Basically, slow agonizing torture using ancient techniques for about a month. Followed by throwing them out of a plane with no parachute into the middle of death valley. This would be good for a start. Sorry if it sounds to graphic to some, but just try to imagine the hell and anguish that these people inflict on their victims. They deserve the worst that can be done.
 southernhighlander
Joined: 3/30/2007
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Posted: 5/28/2007 4:52:47 PM
they should have their guts cut out and their balls chopped of and put down their throat.
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