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 reader7
Joined: 1/29/2008
Msg: 1
ladies' night is dumbPage 1 of 9    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
So let me get this straight. I pay a cover, I pay for drinks, the ladies pay neither, and I still don't get any sex. Awwww hell nawwww! Lets try a guys' night where we are the prize! Equal rights right ladies?
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Joined: 5/18/2008
Msg: 2
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/17/2008 10:58:20 PM

I pay a cover, I pay for drinks, the ladies pay neither, and I still don't get any sex.


Would you be happier if the ladies had to pay ? (You still don't get any sex and most of the ladies would probably go somewhere else.)
 867love
Joined: 3/16/2006
Msg: 3
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/17/2008 11:01:25 PM
most bars are a sausage fest already. -whatever gets the chicks through the door.
-bring a girl to the bar with you -have her buy the reduced price drinks...
 LoonyTunz
Joined: 8/11/2006
Msg: 4
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/17/2008 11:07:13 PM
Man, why chase barflies in the first place. It can't be the thrill of the chase since your quarry is handicapped.
Go to a bar to go to a bar, if it is tail you seek there are far better places to find it.
 platypus_man
Joined: 8/29/2007
Msg: 5
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 4:24:03 AM

Why do you think buying a girl drinks somehow entitles you to sex


That's right. If you want to pay for sex, then do it directly like the rest of us. Or have you discovered some 'buy one drink, get one BJ for free' coupons?
 LoonyTunz
Joined: 8/11/2006
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:24:20 AM
^^^
Yet those same feminists have been seen decrying women working in porn as a form of male gender abuse. I guess those women are the only ones not able to think for themselves.
That comment I would say comes from the feminist movements push for equality only where it might benefit them while steadfastly refusing to step up to the plate where true equality might cause them to give something up. I can't recall an single feminist suggesting that standards should be changed in the nursing field to attract more men and thus better reflect society as a whole, why rock the boat when women are getting access to a good paying job and have been over represented there for centuries right?
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 7
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:24:32 AM
So let me get this straight. I pay a cover, I pay for drinks, the ladies pay neither, and I still don't get any sex. Awwww hell nawwww! Lets try a guys' night where we are the prize! Equal rights right ladies?

Here's a thought...stop going out with the intention of finding sex, or expecting it for what you purchase. That should help...if you're going to do that on a night out, just hit a brothel and pay for sex straight out so you get your money's worth.

You're also quite capable of not buying anyone drinks if you don't want to...and you're more than welcome to hit your local corner bar where there's no cover charge and there's 5 people there all night.

Problem solved. Next question?
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 8
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:27:28 AM

If anal sex is your goal, then maybe you should just skip the whole ladies night venue, save your money, and go straight to your local "red light district"


holigolightly said it before I could.


It's always been a bit perplexing to me that the feminist organizations haven't been more vocal on this, considering how demeaning it is to women in making them bait, and thus exploiting them to make money.


It's called "using the system." Midas has a Ladies' Day for oil changes--if I can save a buck, I'm going there.

There might not be free sex for the OP, but when a free lunch is offered, consider the strings and if they aren't binding, take it.
 aprincelyfrog
Joined: 7/25/2006
Msg: 9
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:40:48 AM

Would you be happier if the ladies had to pay ? (You still don't get any sex and most of the ladies would probably go somewhere else.)

Absolutely I would rather them pay their own way and if that means they go somewhere else then so be it, at least the women present are A) able to pay their own way and B) walking the equal rights talk.

Several states have already outlawed "ladies nights" as being discriminatory. If equal rights means equal pay for equal work it also means equal pay for equal drinks and equal pay for equal entry.

Personally, I do not frequent bars that offer discounted drinks or addmission to any gender, race etc.

And as a former bar owner who never once had a ladies night I can tell you it makes no difference. If you offer a good, clean, safe and fun place then women will pack the place.
 abelian
Joined: 1/12/2008
Msg: 10
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:46:15 AM
Uh... The club owners don't care if you get laid. They care about selling alcohol, which depends on keeping the most customers in the club the longest amount of time. I'm sure they would love to accomodate you, but in most places running a brothel is illegal. The club owners aren't being dumb. If you're goal is to spend money for sex efficiently, hire an escort. It's a sure thing and if you're sober when you do it you won't have to beg and you won't be hungover the next day.

You can keep dreaming on the guy's night. The only reason that clubs have ladies' nights is that they know having lots of women in the club will bring in lots of guys who will spend all night drinking in the hope of getting laid. Even if women were misguided enough to use the same approach, giving free drinks to guys and expecting to make a profit from the women purchasing drinks is a lusing proposition.
 Miss W
Joined: 12/4/2006
Msg: 11
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:49:16 AM

Several states have already outlawed "ladies nights" as being discriminatory.

California did several years ago after a couple of weenie boys whined and went to court.


Absolutely I would rather them pay their own way and if that means they go somewhere else then so be it, at least the women present are A) able to pay their own way

I have never allowed strange men in bars or clubs to buy me a drink....I just don't want to feel obligated in any way. If I couldn't afford to pay my own way, I just wouldn't go out. Works just fine for me!

 LoonyTunz
Joined: 8/11/2006
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:50:44 AM

And can you please describe what standards in nursing need to be changed so that more males will be attracted? Last I checked, nurses aren't required to wear the sexy little dress and hat combo anymore. So please, do explain: What barriers are there that are keeping YOU out of the nursing field?

No what barriers are there to you paying the same amount for the same service?
And yes sure lipstick feminists support porn but the majority of factions still claim it is more male oppression Silly little feminists get so cute when they are mad.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 13
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 9:57:59 AM

I can't recall an single feminist suggesting that standards should be changed in the nursing field to attract more men and thus better reflect society as a whole, why rock the boat when women are getting access to a good paying job and have been over represented there for centuries right?


Which standards in the nursing field need to be changed? I teach college, and I have had several male nursing students, but yes, females outnumber the males, but WHY?

It isn't the standards of the nursing programs, it is SOCIETY'S standards that keep more males from going into traditionally female roles because they fear being labeled "sissy" or even gay. In one of my classes, I had two male nursing students, and a NON feminist woman in the class made a remark about men who become nurses. I saw the faces of both the men, bemused and annoyed. I asked the woman what type of men become nurses and she said effeminate men. She had NO idea that two of her classmates were in the program, thus belying her own beliefs.

I used to sub, and within the schools were I went, men were actively recruited to teach in the lower grades--teaching positions traditionally held by women--yet I saw few men teach Kindergarten or first grade. It was NOT because there was a bias.

And before you start whining about the standards of society, let me remind you that the west has been patriarchal since at least the advent of the Greeks. Males made the rules and set most of the mores and roles of our society. Nursing/teaching small kids were women's fields because men were doctors and university professors. Women were/are seen as nurturers, and thus, better suited for taking care of sick people and children.

Guys, women didn't make the rules! We have influenced the changing of rules, but if you want to complain about ladies' night or anything else where it seems that women get preferential treatment, complain to the higher ups--JUST AS WOMEN HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE SUFFRAGETTE MOVEMENT BEGAN.

OP, if you don't like ladies' night, I suggest that you make posters and stand outside the bar, protesting.

Good luck.
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 14
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:06:28 AM

Silly little feminists get so cute when they are mad.


Too bad that silly whining men are not cute when they whine.

In fact, it makes them VERY unattractive.


No what barriers are there to you paying the same amount for the same service?


Dude, YOU brought up nurses, didn't you? (Or some other man.) Why throw a red herring into the pot and then bail when someone answers you? If you didn't want comments or questions, why pose the question?

And as for paying the same amount for the same service--when I was married, my ex wanted me to go pick up a car part for him. He called the garage and they quoted a price. When I got there, I told them what I wanted and they quoted a much higher price. I said that my husband had called and it wasn't the same quote. The man helping me grew very flustered, red-faced, and started to stutter (I swear this is true!). He started backtracking and trying to explain, but the best he could come up with was, "Oh, well, yeah, I guess it is the lower price" and gave me the part for that amount.

He was trying to stick it to me because I am a woman. I have seen this happen to other women, as well.
 Janet4ever
Joined: 4/14/2008
Msg: 15
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:20:44 AM
I can't imagine making a decision to go/not go somewhere based on a cover charge -- usually what, about $10? -- geez.

I doubt this really brings in more women, but is a marketing ploy to make men think so.
 Seafarer227
Joined: 11/8/2007
Msg: 16
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:32:56 AM
because every night is guy's night
 Gwendolyn2010
Joined: 1/22/2006
Msg: 17
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 11:58:10 AM

equal rights is stupid.


Wow! That was quite the little diatribe.

If you don't want equal rights, then refuse them--it's just that easy. Get a man (do you have one? Why are you on POF looking for another before you get rid of the first?) to support you and stay at home and take care of your babies and then your grandbabies.

Really, no one is stopping you.


im pretty footed feminine and sensitive. oh and i shower regularly


What qualifies as "feminine"? Given your tone and word use in your post, I bet that by social standards, I look and act a lot more "feminine" than you do. Oh, and I shower regularly, too--I didn't know that not showering was the hallmark of men and feminists.
 Ghost Shadow
Joined: 10/11/2007
Msg: 18
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 1:05:14 PM
damit! all those years... and I was "suppose" to get sex for buying all those drinks!!!

damit, I'm pissed!!!
 verygreeneyez
Joined: 3/15/2006
Msg: 19
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/18/2008 1:29:13 PM
There are guys-nights-out everywhere here where I live. I don't think any of them are getting any more sex than those who go to ladies night. Good grief OP ~ snivel about buying a few drinks and not getting any tail. Welcome to reality.
 Saltolibre
Joined: 6/4/2005
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 10:28:23 AM
I have the answer!!!! Give up the bar scene! I did years ago, and had no desire to go back even after my divorce. I find the whole nightclub/bar scene a ridiculous waste of time, nothing but one BIG game!!!!
 mjk21258
Joined: 10/20/2007
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 10:29:10 AM
why do you think the ladies go to these places. Let me give you a hint, it has something to with no cover, they aren't coming to see you and could give a s^&% if you buy them a drink.
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Joined: 5/18/2008
Msg: 22
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 10:35:46 AM
This practice of charging more to one sex is illegal per the U.S Constitution.


Untrue. I legally charge women more for their haircuts than men.

Drycleaners do the same. Perfectly legal.
 WomanInProgress
Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 23
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 11:00:01 AM
why do you think the ladies go to these places. Let me give you a hint, it has something to with no cover, they aren't coming to see you and could give a s^&% if you buy them a drink.

Pretty much!

Look in the history of nightclubs (or at least recent history), women go out to go out. Men go out primarily to look for women (or they wouldn't care what women were paying - they either wouldn't be there or wouldn't notice). While it's nice to see a man you like when you're out with friends as a woman, we neither expect nor plan to go out for that reason.

Because of this bars/clubs cater to women financially - they know women are more practical about spending in these establishments. The more women feel they're getting a deal, the more women that will come in (and come back). If they can get a place filled with women, the men will just follow and spend - and not on women, on themselves. What men spend on the women is a bonus - what they spend on themselves while being spectators is what drives the business. Ask any strip joint...men aren't getting laid in there or leaving with women at all, and they spend WAY more on covers and drinks than a regular club. Yet strip joints do good business, and a big city can have quite a few of these places and still they do good.

In a regular club, if there are enough women and they're decent enough, the men don't care about the cover, the drink prices or the music...they'll show up. If men didn't look for women when they went out, the system would change. I agree that men should just go out to go out and not worry about meeting women constantly...if they did then it wouldn't happen. But men don't seem to be doing anything different, so not much changes.

Talk to your fellow men and change your outing habits...like Gwen said, picket places if you feel it's wrong.
 LoonyTunz
Joined: 8/11/2006
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ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 12:33:15 PM

WHAT?????????????????'Men like you are why there is still a need for active feminists.
That is actually the most insulting and demeaning thing to say. To simply discount anything that I say because I am a woman/feminist is just wrong.

Actually no i discount stupidity for stupidity's sake, not because it comes from a man or woman. But rather than address an issue I see you would rather wave the feminist banner.
Women do NOT pay more for haircuts BECAUSE they are women, if they pay more it is due to lengthy of hair causing additional TIME to be spent in cutting it properly. No woman will be charged $125 to get a buzzcut, if you do, sorry but I'd have to assume you were a long term glue sniffer.
I assume also that in the rabid replies you've failed to actually read my first post in this thread and put two and two together with the subsequent ones.
 AnjelRocker
Joined: 5/13/2008
Msg: 25
ladies' night is dumb
Posted: 7/19/2008 12:41:04 PM
I don't go to bars because I don't like that scene. I am old enough to drink but it's bring more females to a bar so mayhaps you can actually speak to one and perhaps have a meaningful convosation and not be thinking of just getting into her pants... think like that and you will never get laid... I mean, atleast pretend to be interested or interesting... and play with her heart abit and get out once you had sex... One night stands are not that easy and it's a****mood but... it happens.

I know atleast three guys going into the nursing field. It's something that is needed and the jobs are many in Canada atleast.
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